When will the marketcap of Ethereum surpass Bitcoin?

[xux99]

Bitcoin currently suffers from a serious scalability issue with no solution on the horizon. Ethereum constantly gains greater acceptance and hosts an increasing number of projects on its blockchain. When will the inevitable occur? My opinion is that in about one year the marketcap of Ethereum will be greater than that of Bitcoin.

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[bathrobehero]

Yeah, no. It will never happen.

Ethereum doesn't even intended to repalce BTC, it fills a completely different role.

[emeraldforce]

Eth MOON though.

[Minecache]

Bitcoin currently suffers from a serious scalability issue with no solution on the horizon. Ethereum constantly gains greater acceptance and hosts an increasing number of projects on its blockchain. When will the inevitable occur? My opinion is that in about one year the marketcap of Ethereum will be greater than that of Bitcoin.

Stupid thread can only be posted by stupid. I have said this from the start ETH <> BTC. They are different beasts. You new ETH heads are the worst.

[mining1]

Yeah, no. It will never happen.

Ethereum doesn't even intended to repalce BTC, it fills a completely different role.

Ethereum doesn't aim to be a currency but do you really believe speculators care about that ? Maybe 1% of btc usage is real usage, so if speculators panic about flippening it will only be accelerated.

[misterbigg]

When will the marketcap of Ethereum surpass Bitcoin?

Never.

[mining1]

Normally i would agree about that, well not with the "never" term, but not in the next year. Thing is, things changed. Ethereum gained backing and usage, btc is in civil war.

[r0ach]

Ethereum is a scamcoin where banks in R3 group were upset they didn't get any early distribution of bitcoin so they just bought the Ethereum premine and tried to pump and dump it while hoisting it into morons at elevated prices.  It's been a scam from day one just like every premine coin before it.

[mining1]

Going to 0 ? Never, unless the project is deliberately abandoned.

[shyliar]

Ethereum is a scamcoin where banks in R3 group were upset they didn't get any early distribution of bitcoin so they just bought the Ethereum premine and tried to pump and dump it while hoisting it into morons at elevated prices.  It's been a scam from day one just like every premine coin before it.

R3 long ago abandon Ethereum after an initial test involving 11 banks. The second test involving 40 banks they utilized blockchain solutions offered by Eris Industries, IBM, Intel and Chain, a handful of Ethereums many competitors. That didn't stop the ETH community from claiming the second test with 40 banks involved ETH. You can read about it here under the history section.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/R3_(company)

Additionally, R3 has abandoned all the above platforms, developed and released their own platform called Corda. Here was the announcement last April.

http://www.r3cev.com/blog/2016/4/4/introducing-r3-corda-a-distributed-ledger-designed-for-financial-services

Currently there are numerous blockchain platforms available, and it seems like new ones appear monthly. Ethereum is not nearly as unique as proponents pretend. They continue maintaining this facade for price manipulation purposes. Here is an article discussing some of the other platforms that are available.

https://lightrains.com/blogs/opensource-blockchain-platforms

and

http://radiostud.io/eight-blockchain-platforms-comparison/

[misterbigg]

btc is in civil war.

There's no civil war it's just two assholes Roger Ver and Jihan Wu stirring shit.

[mining1]

Nope, you're wrong. It's not just them otherwise there wouldn't be people dumping btc for eth. People are starting to lose confidence in bitcoin. Remember, what keeps bitcoin together is people's faith that bitcoin will make them profit. And network effect only follows the price. Nothing else backs bitcoin beside faith. No usage, no projects, nothing.

So, ETH can only replace bitcoin in few of these cases:

1. BTC civil war continues, BU forcefully takes over or for some reason it splits in two; even if it doesn't split, this war will crash the price alot. Now, it depends how it crashes. If it crashes by moving the value into other projects, then bitcoin will be replaced. If it crashes and burns as in people stop buying bitcoins at any price, then the whole cryptocurrency scene will crash.
2. ETH manages to increase the market cap to 50% of bitcoin's value. At that point there will be FOMO for missing out and panic with bitcoin holders, many will switch sides in an uncontrollable spiral.
3. ETH succesfully manages the transition to POS and scales, that alone is enough to easily takeover bitcoin.

[ice18]

No, etherium IMHO will never surpass bitcoin at this moment or even years to come no other cryptocurrency can surpass bitcoin today because bitcoin has proven its stability through the years I have still very high trust on btc, maybe etherium at the moment is dominant but it will not last long. 

[fortunecrypto]

btc is in civil war.

There's no civil war it's just two assholes Roger Ver and Jihan Wu stirring shit.

I don't know why people wants Bitcoin to be beaten,just like the old rimbit,Bitcoin will still be the number one coin in the market for the next ten years or so,I believe people in the board will a way to solve the current issues and those that are making .

[mining1]

How are they going to find a way ? For 3 years now there's literally only stagnation, only talk, insulting, divided community. Miners are oligarchs in bitcoin because of the POW only system, they didn't wanna activate segwit so they get more fees. It will be too late for change when ethereum will pass 50% of it's market cap and there will be fomo to change the boat.
Smartest people already changed the boat, no point in risking your wealth for a most likely negative scenario, bitcoin devs and community haven't found a way in 3 years to change things, won't find a way in the coming months.

[Pursuer]

When will the marketcap of Ethereum surpass Bitcoin?

Never.

never say never!
of course with price and with usability and real adoption, ethereum can never surpass bitcoin's marketcap but ethereum is not known to be an honest coins and market cap is a useless number that can easily be manipulated!

for all we know Vitalik is going to fork ethereum another time in the near future and change the available supply from current 90 million to 400 million and easily surpass bitcoin's marketcap.
it is a very simple math 400,000,000 * $47 = $18,800,000,000 marketcap > bitcoin's $18,518,449,188 and when ETH price was dumped back down to $10 he can fork it again and increase the 400 million to 10,000 million

[Minecache]

btc is in civil war.

There's no civil war it's just two assholes Roger Ver and Jihan Wu stirring shit.

There IS civil war and it is killing BTC. Open your eyes.

[Minecache]

When will the marketcap of Ethereum surpass Bitcoin?

Never.

never say never!
of course with price and with usability and real adoption, ethereum can never surpass bitcoin's marketcap but ethereum is not known to be an honest coins and market cap is a useless number that can easily be manipulated!

for all we know Vitalik is going to fork ethereum another time in the near future and change the available supply from current 90 million to 400 million and easily surpass bitcoin's marketcap.
it is a very simple math 400,000,000 * $47 = $18,800,000,000 marketcap > bitcoin's $18,518,449,188 and when ETH price was dumped back down to $10 he can fork it again and increase the 400 million to 10,000 million

Oh shut up.

[btbrae]

There's not really any civil war with Bitcoin. There are different takes on the blockchain size issue and it will be resolved with time. This is a better way forward. Wise hands move slower.

Ethereum on the other hand, is controlled by a few who make decisions for the many, like the DAO, and can do so on a whim.

They are different beasts as some here have said, but the reason I got into Bitcoin was to get away from centralized decision makers and cartels.

I am happy to see ETH rise and hope it brings crypto along, but would urge caution to new investors to not go in too deep right now.

[mining1]

There's not really any civil war with Bitcoin. There are different takes on the blockchain size issue and it will be resolved with time. This is a better way forward. Wise hands move slower.

What ? Read bitcoin's reddit. Panic all over, people in dissagreement, bitcoin core threatened to 51% atack nodes that don't signal segwit and so on. Read bitcoin reddit and latest bitcoin news.
What do you think it's changing this time for problems to be solved ? BTC dev team is incapable and inexperienced, they haven't gone through much because nothing can be actually developed and implemented because of the dissagreements. Miners went greedy, liked high fees, untill they will agree for forks / changes it will be too late. Bitcoin is there because it's a brand. I also like coca cola and i drink it alot, but mostly because it's much better than pepsi and other similar drinks, not because of the brand.

Ethereum on the other hand, is controlled by a few who make decisions for the many, like the DAO, and can do so on a whim.

And who controlled what happen to dao ? Those that voted 95% in favor of the fork ? This is true democracy. Those 5% who didn't agree have their own failing chain. But weren't even 5%, because only 2 people really matter in ETC. Barry as a pumper and chandler as a pumper and sole miner of the network.

[btbrae]

There's not really any civil war with Bitcoin. There are different takes on the blockchain size issue and it will be resolved with time. This is a better way forward. Wise hands move slower.

What ? Read bitcoin's reddit. Panic all over, people in dissagreement, bitcoin core threatened to 51% atack nodes that don't signal segwit and so on. Read bitcoin reddit and latest bitcoin news.
What do you think it's changing this time for problems to be solved ? BTC dev team is incapable and inexperienced, they haven't gone through much because nothing can be actually developed and implemented because of the dissagreements. Miners went greedy, liked high fees, untill they will agree for forks / changes it will be too late. Bitcoin is there because it's a brand. I also like coca cola and i drink it alot, but mostly because it's much better than pepsi and other similar drinks, not because of the brand.

No offence but you sound melodramatic. I've been involved with BTC from the start and I've seen all manner of squabbles and events, hacks, thefts and heists, arrests, bankruptcies, political issues.

What I see today is Bitcoin ATMs rising, lots of easy to use lightweight wallets that don't require downloading the blockchain, many more fiat exchanges, a much better understanding of the technology of Bitcoin by businesses, increased adoption by non-techies etc.

There has always been a technical issue to work out and it always does. It works out. I can understand you being worried if you are new to Bitcoin.

However basing your decision-making process on a reddit is going to lose you money.

[mining1]

Exchange hacks, thefts and so on were different. Drops happened back then because people wanted to dump before the hacker dumped, but they believed in bitcoin as a brand. Now it is different. Bitcoin is clogged and people started losing faith in it after finding out that literally everything else is better, especially the average joe bitcoin maximalists who thought it would replace banks and that it was the best thing since sliced bread. Sentiment changed, everyone is unhappy with the network because it doesn't work anymore, fees of 2$, and bitcoin already lost 10% value because people jumped ships.

I don't want it to simply burn and die in a catastrophic failure because the crypto space will lose most of it's money. But there's 50% chance that the people who pull their value out move most of it into ethereum, which will cause the flippening. The volatility will set new records, whales will battle, this will go down straight into history of crypto. Interesting times.

If ethereum wins the battle with bitcoin this year before going to POS and scale visa level, it's mostly because of the civil war in bitcoin and the 3 year stagnation.

[XbladeX]

***Ethereum will be greater than that of Bitcoin.

Just math man when price of BTC = ETH that will = cost of all operations on ETH 20x.
When price will be equal the costs of sending also will be equal.
If many people will use ETH it will be victim to itself Blocksize like 20TB and high fees like BTC in 10 years.

Just look at any coin that would have 300 000 daily it will face same problem since ETH Dash size is small is easy to bash BTC but they will come to same end like BTC.
With price cost of sending are rising

[mining1]

No, because ethereum is now several times faster than BTC already. Which means it would handle it's volume just fine. Wouldn't be enough for massive adoption assuming some dapps will go mainstream, but that's what for they have scaling in the roadmap next year.

I was thinking in late 2016 to buy bitcoins for the next halving but this civil war that's still there for years and now erupting made it extremely risky. At this point bitcoin is more likely to lose crown than going to 2000$.

And this is with 15sec block time. Vitalik also demonstrated months ago 3-4 sec block times, which will make it another 4-5 times faster. And that without the actual sharding that aim to increase the scaling hundreds of times. There are some other projects as i recall with 4-5 sec block times but they are not doing it in a decentralized manner.

[btbrae]

Exchange hacks, thefts and so on were different. Drops happened back then because people wanted to dump before the hacker dumped, but they believed in bitcoin as a brand. Now it is different. Bitcoin is clogged and people started losing faith in it after finding out that literally everything else is better, especially the average joe bitcoin maximalists who thought it would replace banks and that it was the best thing since sliced bread. Sentiment changed, everyone is unhappy with the network because it doesn't work anymore, fees of 2$, and bitcoin already lost 10% value because people jumped ships.

I don't want it to simply burn and die in a catastrophic failure because the crypto space will lose most of it's money. But there's 50% chance that the people who pull their value out move most of it into ethereum, which will cause the flippening. The volatility will set new records, whales will battle, this will go down straight into history of crypto. Interesting times.

If ethereum wins the battle with bitcoin this year before going to POS and scale visa level, it's mostly because of the civil war in bitcoin and the 3 year stagnation.

[TeraBite]

This will only happen into only ETH bag holders dreams in real life this would never. ETH is still unstable with some bugs so I don't think it will surpass ever.

[mining1]

Every blockchain project has bugs. Bitcoin can be killed with 20million $. But no one has the incentive to do that, however, that doesn't make it invulnerable. And the fact that it's clogged is a bug in itself, because it's not working and it requires fixing.

[dinofelis]

btc is in civil war.

There's no civil war it's just two assholes Roger Ver and Jihan Wu stirring shit.

There is indeed no civil war.  What looks like it, is nothing else but the immutability mechanism protecting the protocol, by antagonism of all those that want to change it, and cannot come to consensus over change, so, de facto, come to consensus over not changing it --> immutability.

[mining1]

It is, it's just that the BU supporters now have a leadership and a pool supporting them. Otherwise their voice wouldn't matter. Yes, they're greatly outnumbered, but a civil war nonetheless. For a civil war to happen, you need a cause, leadership and an army. BU now has all 3. They had it before too but the leadership, cause and the support ( army ) were much weaker.

[dinofelis]

It is, it's just that the BU supporters now have a leadership and a pool supporting them. Otherwise their voice wouldn't matter. Yes, they're greatly outnumbered, but a civil war nonetheless. For a civil war to happen, you need a cause, leadership and an army. BU now has all 3. They had it before too but the leadership, cause and the support ( army ) were much weaker.

That is exactly what I call decentralisation: when no leadership is possible because of sufficient antagonism.

[mining1]

And that's why your definition of decentralization would do more harm than good. World at a standstill that can't move forward, a permanent cold war. Decentralization is supposed to good, not harm. That's why we make such a big deal about it in the first place.

Also, decentralization is not a constant value. There can be different types of decentralizations. Bitcoin is somewhat decentralized, because not all the mining power is in china. But because of bitcoin's old tech, losing 90% of it's mining power would kill it because it would take weeks to months to reach an equilibrium and for it to unstuck. And because it cannot adapt fast enough to lower mining power, i consider it centralized because it depends entirely on the chinese miners, on which the government has total control if it wants to.

[dinofelis]

And that's why your definition of decentralization would do more harm than good.

I'm not talking good or bad.  I'm talking phenomena.  I don't say whether gravity is good or bad.  It is a physical phenomenon.

Personally, I like decentralization, because nobody is in charge, and that's an idea I like.  I know three extremely well-working decentralized systems:

* science (the centralized version is "religion")
* evolution (the phenomenon that made living beings ; I don't know a centralized version)
* free markets (the centralized version is communism)

World at a standstill that can't move forward, a permanent cold war. Decentralization is supposed to good, not harm. That's why we make such a big deal about it in the first place.

Decentralization is the opposite of stand still.  Leadership is stand still, because in the end, just a thing that serves the purposes of the leader.

Look at my 3 examples: science, evolution, free markets.  Not exactly examples of standstill.  

In bitcoin, decentralisation is used to obtain immutability, but that's because it was designed that way.  Decentralization doesn't mean immutability.  In fact, in such systems, only centralization and leadership allows for BREAKING immutability.  But that was NOT the idea, because that leadership can use its power for its own advantage.

[mining1]

No. Your definition of decentralization cannot work and be applied everywhere, and blockchain / crypto science is one of the examples for now. Maybe in the future when we'll have some near perfect project that may not need leadership to take the hard decisions, yeah. For example ethereum foundation doesn't plan to be the leader of ethereum forever, it was implied that when the project will reach it's peak in development it's self government may start kicking in.

Examples:
-You cannot decentralize how the space exploration should proceed even though you can get decentralized funding. Because most people don't understand it and there will be people with knowledge that will become leaders by stepping up.
-Let's assume bitcoins  mining is fully decentralized. Still, not even in this case, you wouldn't be able to take decentralized decisions on technical aspects because most people don't understand it. You need leaders who do.
-You cannot have a civilization if you're fully decentralized with everything it implies, on every single aspect ( like you understand it ). Because then humanity would die before it could start, complete anarchy.
As i said, people aren't fully equal, and that's where you're wrong. And goin from there, you can apply this logic in most cases.

[dinofelis]

No. Your definition of decentralization cannot work and be applied everywhere, and blockchain / crypto science is one of the examples for now. Maybe in the future when we'll have some near perfect project

There is never a perfect project, like there is never a finished perfect scientific theory, there is never a perfect living being, and there is never the perfect product on the market.  What happens in decentralized systems, is that the less perfect system dies, and the better takes over.

There's nothing wrong with crypto currencies dying regularly, and new ones taking over.  I wouldn't mind bitcoin to die, I think it is high time for it to leave its place to the next one.   But that next one should also die after a while, to make place for yet a better one.  And so on.

I don't see why a crypto currency should "evolve". Let it be what it is, and when better comes around, let it die and let the better take over.

[dinofelis]

-You cannot decentralize how the space exploration should proceed even though you can get decentralized funding. Because most people don't understand it and there will be people with knowledge that will become leaders by stepping up.

Those people with knowledge are just the antagonists I talk about. If they have a better idea than their competitor, they might succeed.  They don't have to ask "the leader" to consider their idea.

When I talk about science as a decentralized system, I mean that there is no hierarchical leadership in IDEAS.  Every scientist can bring in an idea that makes an old idea crumble.  There is no hierarchy in science.  But of course, there are great scientists, and lesser scientists.  Look at Einstein.  Overthrew most of classical science.  Science is full of non-programmed, non-leadership events that set the course.

-Let's assume bitcoins  mining is fully decentralized. Still, not even in this case, you wouldn't be able to take decentralized decisions on technical aspects because most people don't understand it. You need leaders who do.

Bitcoin's protocol needs not to change.  It is what it is.  If it isn't good enough, bitcoin should simply stop existing and be overtaken by a better idea.  However, bitcoin clients (software) that conform to the fixed protocol can of course be written by anybody.

-You cannot have a civilization if you're fully decentralized with everything it implies, on every single aspect ( like you understand it ). Because then humanity would die before it could start, complete anarchy.

I am an anarchist.  Humanity lived much longer in anarchy (a few million years, depending on where you put the origin) than in hierarchy.  Hierarchy is, in my opinion, a parasite, and not an organiser, of society.

That said, if you are thinking that leadership and hierarchy are better, there's no point in being interested in decentralized systems.  Financial systems with leadership already exist since ages.

[mining1]

Not even then was anarchy. There were tribes with pack leader/s, and where the least power decision were that of the kids, then women. Their role was breeding.

[dinofelis]

In any case, if you want leadership/majority rule/voting/adaptable rules, you already have that, fiat.  If you have leadership, in any way it will have to comply to state rule, in the same way that fiat does.  So I don't see the point of crypto.

Crypto being permissionless, decentralized, it cannot have leadership, or we are back to fiat.  And it being permissionless and decentralized, but having to maintain a "belief" (a monetary belief), there have to be unrockable rules of which nobody has a mandate to change them.  That is immutability.

Of course you can change them.  Just any body can.  I can fork bitcoin on my own tomorrow.  Whether the brand name "bitcoin" will go to my new crypto currency (like ETH took over the name of the old ethereum, and ETC got to chose another name) or not, it is another, new, crypto currency. 

The only difference with another alt coin is that there was a premine, and that everybody got his new holdings in the new coin, equal to his old holdings in the old coin.

So, crypto currency has to be an anarchist concept, or it has no meaning, and is just fiat ; and if so, it has to be immutable.  Forking then just makes a new alt coin. 

Like with "evolution" the old animals die, and better adapted animals live, but existing animals don't "evolve".

[aioc]

btc is in civil war.

There's no civil war it's just two assholes Roger Ver and Jihan Wu stirring shit.

There IS civil war and it is killing BTC. Open your eyes.

Yes there is,the sudden jumped of ethereum on coinmarketcap is a big indication,this things happen because of Bitcoin's transaction issues,which needs to address,if this goes on ,it's possible eth could overtake BITCOIN..

[Charles Umphress]

It really just depends what happens in the future, BTC may top out at a certain price and at that point Ethereum could surpass BTC's market cap.

[Agaton]

I don't really believe that etherium surpass bitcoin, it s impossible to happen, because as what I have been noticed, that etherium is only depending on what bitcoin being moves, they are both the same member of crypto business but different in ranking system. Bitcoin is always the king of all cryptocurrency.  No one can defeat and replace bitcoin, and only the creator of cryptocurrency can decide the truth beyond the operation of cryptocurrency, if I'm not wrong, all cryptocurrencies coins are the same founder. They are group of cryptocurrency creator, with multiple personalities that has ability to handle cryptocurrency business, they are like a family that has a superior or a king.

[Btcalimie]

https://spee.ch/bitcointalkbtcvseth/3c7d1dd771f988bbeeaf66886318a35555000628.png

Bitcoin currently suffers from a serious scalability issue with no solution on the horizon. Ethereum constantly gains greater acceptance and hosts an increasing number of projects on its blockchain. When will the inevitable occur? My opinion is that in about one year the marketcap of Ethereum will be greater than that of Bitcoin.

Yes, it is highly possible that this would happen. Specially many projects and innovation do join the crypt market this days.

[fokinlipat]

This is not going to happen in my opinion. ETH performed exceptionally in 2017 but if you see the performance in 2018, it has completely failed. I think that now the hype given by media is over and there is real test of the exact potential of all coins. Most of the alt coins have reduced in their value by half.

Still, if you see return wise, it can give some competition to bitcoins in my opinion. This is because bitcoin is too costly and this is an entry barrier in my opinion.

[AbyssLagiaz]

When dependency is no more of a matter or an issue in the crypto world like it always happened to almost every coins to fall when BTC falls. Bitcoin was like the mother of all currency in a context and that, my friend, is why Ethereum goes at the same flow as Bitcoin. We can't say in the same way, because they have their own differences not just in the price in the market. I doubt that in the next decade that ETH will surpass it, unless it overcame the adoption that BTC have in different country. Getting a lot of attention in the public could help it, but government could be either be the threat or the opportunity for that.

[kere hore]

It really just depends what happens in the future, BTC may top out at a certain price and at that point Ethereum could surpass BTC's market cap.

I think it will never happen because the world's first currency bitcoin is probably because Ethereum now has an unprofitable dominant with Ethereum that allows it to pump to get past the bitcoin

[Hellobx]

I don't think it's possible.
ETH may always be Top2, but beyond BTC is impossible.

[GVanelly]

Bitcoin currently suffers from a serious scalability issue with no solution on the horizon. Ethereum constantly gains greater acceptance and hosts an increasing number of projects on its blockchain. When will the inevitable occur? My opinion is that in about one year the marketcap of Ethereum will be greater than that of Bitcoin.

The market of the ethereum is mainly for business. Bitcoin is a means of accumulating and protecting its savings for all strata of citizens. Therefore, the ethereum will never be able to overtake bitcoin. In addition, bitcoin does not stand still and the tendency to develop. After a couple of years, all its shortcomings will be corrected

[Tetep Mesem]

Bitcoin currently suffers from a serious scalability issue with no solution on the horizon. Ethereum constantly gains greater acceptance and hosts an increasing number of projects on its blockchain. When will the inevitable occur? My opinion is that in about one year the marketcap of Ethereum will be greater than that of Bitcoin.

I still do not understand Ethereum's step in market cap to be superior to Bitcoin. because what I see the development of Ethereum is still not fast. so in the 1-year market, Ethereum stamp is bigger than Bitcoin still doubt.

[djscreem01]

It will not be very soon. a few years later, BTC will stabilize and ETH will increase. I am always telling ETH investor that ETH is not a short term investment !!! 

[omonuyak]

I don't think this will happen soon but maybe when many companies has agree to used the ethereum contract and not only that when people began to see the beauty of the ethereum network over that of other coins. However, bitcoin dominant is still very high and it may taking some years for this to happen.

[dobidobi88]

This is very difficult considering the community and bitcoin investors more than ethereum. But eth has a high stability that becomes excess.

[Hssn]

There no way ethereum to surpass bitcoin right now eth is little bit growing comparing with btc but wait for some time again btc will grow and again make a huge gap of 100 billion

[Longfellow27]

Surpassing what was more popular and accepted is a bit hard. We know ethereum was also good but bitcoin started it all. Not unless something not so good would happen on bitcoin. Like for example if it would be banned forever. The only question about this idea is that why should such a good invention be banned? I think not too certain about but as the level of this argument in percentage. I think it would only be around 3% of a hundred. That is how I look at this possibility.

[thienlonghue]

Ethereum has no chance to surpass bitcoin. It can be true if only Ethereum has a exactly supply and change the way miner mine ETH.

[Slugmonkey]

Ethereum will not replace bitcoin in terms of the purpose they both serve (which is completely different) but yes the usage of ethereum will increase, as the platform it is built on is much more advanced. The uses it can be put to are very vast and almost sci-fi. In comparison bitcoin has its limitations, the only reason it is still #1 in marketcap is because of its popularity. But it is only a matter of time that ethereum takes over bitcoin in terms of marketcap late this year.

[dz roknroll27]

Ethereum goes at the same flow as Bitcoin. At this point bitcoin is more likely to lose crown than going to 5000$. ETH is still unstable with some bugs so I don't think it will surpass ever.

[norcia]

I think it's very possible that Eth markets will outstrip Bitcoin, but that's because of the difference in supply. So I believe the price of Bitcoin will still be above the price of Eth in the future.

[newbie-hero]

This is not going to happen in my opinion. ETH performed exceptionally in 2017 but if you see the performance in 2018, it has completely failed. I think that now the hype given by media is over and there is real test of the exact potential of all coins. Most of the alt coins have reduced in their value by half.

Still, if you see return wise, it can give some competition to bitcoins in my opinion. This is because bitcoin is too costly and this is an entry barrier in my opinion.

The stuff you are writing about seems to be the truth. However, I can certainly admit that Buterin will make some cool changes to the platform, and Ethereum value will grow. Meanwhile, much time will pass until we see it.

[twitami1]

I'm not even sure that's gonna happen. As long as they have too much difference .This is possible only if bitcoin falls to $ 2,000 ,because I do not see the potential of Ethereum to kill the price of $ 2,000 for 1 Ethereum.

[Arcoin1]

It is necessary to invest in order for ETH to gain value. I made my investments through ETH. It's not the BTC crossing, it's affecting my incremental investments more clearly. It will take time or the same value will last long.

[zippolo]

in the future, anything can happen. but I do not think that in the next few years Bitcoin will lose the place of 1 crypto currency in the world. now he has too big a gap from the other kriptovalyut and in the price and in the number of people who put their money into it.

[Rejinx]

Unfortunately, a year has passed, but ethereum has not yet become more expensive than bitcoin. But I'm sure that one day it will happen

[lanoanh082]

Every blockchain project has bugs. Bitcoin can be killed with 20million $. But no one has the incentive to do that, however, that doesn't make it invulnerable. And the fact that it's clogged is a bug in itself, because it's not working and it requires fixing.

[jack long]

which I obviously do not know because I know Ethereum will not go beyond bitcoin because the parent bitcoin of all altcoins and the first currency in the world and thus to surpass bitcoin is very difficult, and now that I know Ethereum is experiencing rapid growth and with this Ethereum becomes the best koi after Bitcoin

[Om George Kesurupan]

I do not know when it happened because I know the Ethereum market is still declining and the bitcoin market is still fluctuating and so I'm also not sure if EThereum can reach bitcoin market because BItcoin is the first currency in the world so no one can beat Bitcoin

[cesarzgamer]

Bitcoin currently suffers from a serious scalability issue with no solution on the horizon. Ethereum constantly gains greater acceptance and hosts an increasing number of projects on its blockchain. When will the inevitable occur? My opinion is that in about one year the marketcap of Ethereum will be greater than that of Bitcoin.

I agree with you, in my opinion Ethereum is better than Bitcoin it's quicker, the fees are smaller it supports smart contracts and tokens. The only negative is the popularity which is smaller than Bitcoin.

[johnnywoo2015]

Bitcoin currently suffers from a serious scalability issue with no solution on the horizon. Ethereum constantly gains greater acceptance and hosts an increasing number of projects on its blockchain. When will the inevitable occur? My opinion is that in about one year the marketcap of Ethereum will be greater than that of Bitcoin.

Never, Ethereum lost some of its value to Bitcoin. I don't think that Ethereum can overtake Bitcoin, just because Bitcoin is the leader and is the most popular and wanted coin. Bitcoin is running this market, not Ethereum.

[apityeh71]

There are many new project now that want to solved scalability issue like Zil, CMT. They can be offer solution for scalability, and make cryptocurrency more usefull in more different industry. But ETH also always make new inovation, can be they can create new feature that can solve scalability and could be surpass Bitcoin in next 5 to 10 years, all this thing depend on their team founder to create better product.

[Arcoin1]

In the crypto money world, such views are very difficult. Ethereum currency is already the second most valuable money on this market. Bitcoin is the creator of this market. For a currency's Bitcoin gauge it should be a bigger project than Bitco.

[LARSBAK]

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Bitcoin currently suffers from a serious scalability issue with no solution on the horizon. Ethereum constantly gains greater acceptance and hosts an increasing number of projects on its blockchain. When will the inevitable occur? My opinion is that in about one year the marketcap of Ethereum will be greater than that of Bitcoin.

Probably will never happen. Ethereum must divide the market with many other Altcoin, while Bitcoin will not be distracted by new technology. Because having both is two different reasons.

[Lindazz]

I can't think of it. It'll never happen.
Bitcoin has always been the market leader, and many people just want to believe it.

[ekdahlswart]

It's too far and maybe it's impossible. Just let BTC as leader even Etherum has more good technology like smart contract and faster transaction but if BTC got some upgrade, it will better.

[JeffBrad12]

Bitcoin currently suffers from a serious scalability issue with no solution on the horizon. Ethereum constantly gains greater acceptance and hosts an increasing number of projects on its blockchain. When will the inevitable occur? My opinion is that in about one year the marketcap of Ethereum will be greater than that of Bitcoin.

Never, Ethereum lost some of its value to Bitcoin. I don't think that Ethereum can overtake Bitcoin, just because Bitcoin is the leader and is the most popular and wanted coin. Bitcoin is running this market, not Ethereum.

Yeah, i guess everyone was feeling doubtfully just because of ethereum is sitting on the second place of the crypto currency or bitcoin has become the first crypto that has already gotten widely adoption. The real game will begin and we will know that what will be happening when ethereum will have reached its total supply.

[truemmu]

Although I personally like Ethereum and Bitcoin very much, I now hold Ethereum and Bitcoin, and I am full of confidence in the future of Ethereum. But Bitcoin is still the leader of the world of cryptocurrency. As for the market value of Ethereum, More than bitcoin, I really don't predict

[micle222]

That's impossible, Ethereum can't beat Bitcoin's finances.
Bitcoin is KING of cryptocurrency with the largest total financial capitalist.

It's hard for all altcoins to beat Bitcoin.

[jhache]

There is no way that the price of ethereum is going to surpass the price of bitcoin. Bitcoin has way too much in the market right now, even though right now ethereum is boasting of way more active addresses than bitcoin, there is still the fact that all of the whales are mostly in bitcoin and just that alone is to make sure that the marketcap of bitcoin is always higher than that of ethereum

[avonka]

We will have to wait more for that to happen. Firstly ETH has to sort out all the scalability issues it has.ETH  price to surpass the price of BTC is unrealistic but to reach it`s market value is more realistic, let`s say in 3 years.

[batang_bitcoin]

Although I personally like Ethereum and Bitcoin very much, I now hold Ethereum and Bitcoin, and I am full of confidence in the future of Ethereum. But Bitcoin is still the leader of the world of cryptocurrency. As for the market value of Ethereum, More than bitcoin, I really don't predict

There's no way that ethereum or any other altcoin that can surpass bitcoin.

Current value of bitcoin can possibly reached by any altcoin in the future once bitcoin is flying high and is unreachable. But what's with ethereum today, its very unlikely to have this possibility. ETH keeps on plummeting and it can possibly go lower than $100.

[basescore]

Once Casper comes out, I'd like to think the gap between the two will close significantly.

[micle222]

I think that will never happen because Bitcoin is a symbol of all cryptocurrency.
If Ethereum defeats Bitcoin then everything will falter, because in the first history Altcoins defeated the King of Cryptocurrency.

[SuiMikira]

I think that will never happen because Bitcoin is a symbol of all cryptocurrency.
If Ethereum defeats Bitcoin then everything will falter, because in the first history Altcoins defeated the King of Cryptocurrency.

If Ethereum can't do this, other altcoins will do. No one will be the king forever, we will see one altcoin overtake bitcoin in the future. It is only problem of time.

[gostop]

You are actually a full member. This kind of thinking is wrong. The market value of Ethereum can never exceed Bitcoin. You overestimated the Ethereum.

[jyotianand01]

It will never happen as bitcoin is a symbol of this market and one and only one coin, which every crypto investor wants in his portfolio. Ethereum value comes from ICO but that market is slowdown and lots of ICO are not able to get funds and going to close before their start and it makes negative impact on ethereum price and price gap is widening between bitcoin and ethereum.

[Cheesus]

You are actually a full member. This kind of thinking is wrong. The market value of Ethereum can never exceed Bitcoin. You overestimated the Ethereum.

And you also rated ETH too low. ETH is really a BTC competitor and in the future we can't predict what will happen. With me, I believe ETH could overtake BTC, but not on price because ETH has endless supply and BTC is just 21 million total supply.

[Kiefner]

You are actually a full member. This kind of thinking is wrong. The market value of Ethereum can never exceed Bitcoin. You overestimated the Ethereum.

And you also rated ETH too low. ETH is really a BTC competitor and in the future we can't predict what will happen. With me, I believe ETH could overtake BTC, but not on price because ETH has endless supply and BTC is just 21 million total supply.

I think Ethereum is the strongest competitor for Bitcoin, but Ethereum will not surpass Bitcoin for many years. In addition, if the Ethereum is still lying on the bottom, then most likely it will simply surpass the more promising coins that already exist.

[KarinaMix]

This will never happen, and why, it seems to me that the ether is not going to take away the leadership from bitcoin.

[LubovOF]

I think that it is unlikely that this will happen, it is unlikely that ether will try to jump over the Creator of the crypto currency, although to look at the other side, not one king was not one .

[Olatunjex]

When crypto enthusiast start adopting ethereum more than bitcoin, when they believe more in ethereum than bitcoin market capitalization of ethereum will surpass bitcoin's market cap if above condition do not occur bitcoin capitalization will lead forever.

[lorapalmer]

Bitcoin currently suffers from a serious scalability issue with no solution on the horizon. Ethereum constantly gains greater acceptance and hosts an increasing number of projects on its blockchain. When will the inevitable occur? My opinion is that in about one year the marketcap of Ethereum will be greater than that of Bitcoin.

I don't think that any other coin will ever surpass a bitcoin. A bitcoin is a father of all crypto. Maybe after very long time when bitcoin will become as old as a dinosaur it will be replaced with something new with a high-end technology.  

[norachuks]

I don't believe that because I don't see ethereum as filling in for bitcoin but for its own currency and not a replacement.

[cherryganda]

I think it will never happen, unless Ethereum made more value in terms of satoshis.
Though i am not closing doors, i am still giving ETH 1% chance in surpassing BTC in terms of market value (market cap)
But this will be hard to see.

[Yalovtsev]

And you believe that this will be? I'm very much in doubt,and there are several good reasons bitcoin know and understand more than air,and more people trust him,and not for nothing he is the first in the list,and to the air to catch it he just needs sumasshedshiy capitalization to do to today's prices it's around 30,and when do you think the growth will be the cue ball will not grow?and I'm sure that after 2020 it will go even more in the lead

[BravO_o]

Why are you waiting for someone to replace bitcoin or its place in coinmarketcap? Bitcoin gives money? Gives. Ethereum gives money? Gives. What else do you need? Why do you need this change of power? We all came here to make money!

[Alohadanc3]

I don't think that is goona happen ever. I know bitcoin have some scalability issues but bitcoin is first crypto currency so people believe in it. And when lighting network come the problem will be solved. I don't know why people compare ETH with bitcoin. Cause they both are very different from each othet. And at this moment more than 50% of the market is depend on bitcoin. And the 2nd place means Ethereum holds  one fifth of bitcoins market. So its very hard to cross bitcoin at this moment for ethereum.

[Scientest]

It will only happen in your dreams. So, I request OP to have more sleep so that OP can get it earlier. BTC will never be replaced with any cryptocurrency, no matter how much useful it is.

[Collinberg]

The answer to your question is probably when pigs start to lay eggs and turtles start flying, even with the scalability issues, Bitcoin is the premier cryptocurrency and it would take a lot from it to be unseated from it's lofty perch.

[virtfund]

BTC is the superior of the market. Bitcoin is at top, because it's the brand of crypto world. New investors mostly prefer to go BTC, instead of EHT. Of course, there is a big place for other crptocurrencies in crypto market, but it doesn’t mean BTC could easily lose its first place.

[mizamuneerashine]

 I don't think it will happen now, when it comes to Bitcoin issue, Ethereum has it also, I withdrawn my eth from forkdelta yesterday but my transaction i completed for almost 24 hours.

[saponetes]

i think ethereum can surpass bitcoin in marketcap in the next three to five years. It will depend of the quality of smart contracts companies that will grow and have sucess in the future that are within ethereum system.

[abanansah]

It never go happen for Ethereum to overcome bitcoin in marketcap. As at now, bitcoin is already covering almost half of the marketcap and to think any other coin to bypass it is impossible.

[powerman24]

This year ETH lost the battle against BTC as the price of it was 11% of BTC in January and now is 3.1%
so the gap is bigger and BTC dominance is significant over ETH and the rest of the alts.

[Viklopot]

I believe that the capitalization of Ethereum will never exceed the capitalization of bitcoin because Ethereum has shown that it completely depends on bitcoin

[originalcryptocoin]

I dont believe it ever will

[swordking]

I don't think it will happen ever. Bitcoin will always remain in the top position. And not just the Ethereum but also any other cryptocurrencies cannot take the place of Bitcoin.

[kidsrock]

It will difficult for ethereum to surpass bitcoin because bitcoin is a leader in the cryptocurrency. And if ethereum wants to compete with bitcoin, the first thing that ethereum needs to do is increase the price. Besides that, ethereum needs a bigger investor who trust with the project and not leaves ethereum in any situations.

[piepie.asean]

Apparently the value of Ethereum (ETH) in the pre-encoded markets is one of the heaviest consequences of bear market attacks that began in February. During this period, ETH was traded at The levels are not too far from its highest in January at $ 1,400. ETH is currently trading at $ 204

[zacad]

Your photo makes me laugh. I don't know who re-read your content. But your photos and last year's ideas are very correct, at least in 2017, Ethereum is the most dazzling star.

[awazieik]

Bitcoin currently suffers from a serious scalability issue with no solution on the horizon. Ethereum constantly gains greater acceptance and hosts an increasing number of projects on its blockchain. When will the inevitable occur? My opinion is that in about one year the marketcap of Ethereum will be greater than that of Bitcoin.

Most people who talk about the market cap of Ethereum surpassing that of bitcoin either don't understand the technology behind bitcoin and ether or they limit their valuation based on price.

Just because Bitcoin and ether are cryptocurrency does not mean that they are the same.  Ether is focused more on dapps and smart contract than bitcoin

So rather than think of comparing them, I would focus on looking at the possibility of them solving their issues

[airdropcoin]

Looking at this now is a funny question. Obviously the founder of Ethereum is very far-sighted. Now that revenge is a failure or is still preparing. This is not certain.

[altcoinhunter01]

There is no chance to happen this anytime as Ethereum is very weak now and ICO market also not supporting Ethereum. Bitcoin has more than half of total market cap but Etherum is far behind from Bitcoin.