Bitcoin is resistant to state control.

[Nathan Graves]

In the case of the Bitcoin ETF, the government itself said that Bitcoin can not be regulated, so I think it is really difficult for them to exert any influence on this.

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[European Central Bank]

As soon as they let some companies run with Bitcoin accepted as a payment method, it's not going to happen too soon. They can't back it off now, it's too late. What they can do is just keep throwing rocks at Bitcoin through the mainstream media so people will get afraid of investing in it, and investors will leave. China successfully did that in the past months. But even without exchanges Bitcoin trading is still gonna happen. You can find people in your area that want to sell or buy Bitcoin pretty easy.

they can combine throwing rock with stuff like the bitlicence. that suppresses bitcoin while simultaneously looking like they really, really care. how many options does someone have in new york state?

all they have to do is amp up the requirements for legit companies until they give up and it doesn't even look oppressive then.

[jonald_fyookball]

State control is not necessarily banning.  For instance, the Chinese gov could make a deal with chinese miners, that, against electricity subsidy, they exclude certain addresses or so, and orphan blocks containing these transactions.  If these miner pools have more than 51% hash power, that becomes an unspoken soft fork that will block these addresses.  For the moment, the Chinese government should make an agreement with 5 persons: the 5 biggest pools.

I don't think so. Even with 51% hashing power you wont be able to mine all blocks. So some blocks will be mined by non chinese miners and they will built on this blocks. invalidating 2 or more blocks thanks to the chinese will be bad for bitcoin and its price. People will simply go with another coin and i doubt that the miners will be happy about that, so they will not agree to blocking certain addresses.

This is definitely incorrect.

51% majority controls ALL the blocks if they want to.  They can
re-org the blockchain any time they want and undo any recent blocks
they want.

[szpalata]

In the case of the Bitcoin ETF, the government itself said that Bitcoin can not be regulated, so I think it is really difficult for them to exert any influence on this.

Of course and that's what we need Bitcoin to be and not a currency being controlled by governments and their failing policies. To me Bitcoin should stay this way and be resistant against any form of centralization.

[Vaskiy]

Bitcoin is not resistant to state control. In the past china tried to hold the control of bitcoin, but it didn't come to reality . I believe few of the corporates that function along with bitcoin holds the control.

[xuan87]

It is the exactly things that all of us want, most of us love bitcoin because it is free from any control and no government or state or country that able to control bitcoin and we like it that way, that is why I believe that bitcoin can become big things in the future because there are no limit in bitcoin

[Hydrogen]

If nothing else, I hope the controversy with bitcoin opens peoples eyes to how far people will go to control things like governments, banks, economies and financial systems.

It might be important for things like banks and governments to be decentralized to make them resistant to control.

The same way one might say bitcoin being decentralized, makes it more difficult to manipulate by those with hidden agendas.

[Soul Reaper]

There are no boundaries to the extent of control of bitcoins.
Bitcoin is the currency of the Internet,
a distributed, worldwide, decentralized digital money. Unlike traditional currencies such as dollars,
bitcoins are issued and managed,
without any central authority whatsoever,
there is no government, company, or bank in charge of Bitcoin.
Thus clearly bitcoins are resistant to state control.

[Yokozuna]

Now I'm not so sure that bitcoin is resistant to state control. If some government decide to take control over bitcoin they may spend lots of funds on hashing power and take over bitcoin.

[Kakmakr]

In the case of the Bitcoin ETF, the government itself said that Bitcoin can not be regulated, so I think it is really difficult for them to exert any influence on this.

No, what they meant to say was that the exchanges was not regulated and that some of them < Chinese exchanges > might manipulate certain things to influence the price. < Example : Faking trades & volume of transactions > You know, the stuff that they used to do, before the Chinese government stepped in.

The SEC just made sure that the rich people of this world is protected, because money is power and they do not want to lose the power to some communist country. ^hmf^

[centralbanksequalsbombs]

If nothing else, I hope the controversy with bitcoin opens peoples eyes to how far people will go to control things like governments, banks, economies and financial systems.

It might be important for things like banks and governments to be decentralized to make them resistant to control.

The same way one might say bitcoin being decentralized, makes it more difficult to manipulate by those with hidden agendas.

+1. This. Thank you @Hydrogen. There will be many campaigns of paid hacks who'd try to develop fear and saying we 'must change Bitcoin because it is broken/flawed' - Bitcoin is working beautifully beyond most our dreams and has become the ultimate source for store of value/investment for all of us to have financial freedom because it is decentralized, permissionless, and has a 1mb blocksize limit (which fights consolidation/centralization) so when mining operations get shut down, me or you can get our computers running to continue mining.

Keep up the integrity of the Bitcoin network for the years to come.

[user27]

Well obviously because Bitcoin itself is against States control. This is another reason why it is seen as such a good hedge against Fiat currencies.

When you look at the future in my opinion they will only be space for decentralised currencies to live people will realise over time that the government is scamming the Life Savings out of them and once they realise that everyone will move to Bitcoin.

[Senor.Bla]

State control is not necessarily banning.  For instance, the Chinese gov could make a deal with chinese miners, that, against electricity subsidy, they exclude certain addresses or so, and orphan blocks containing these transactions.  If these miner pools have more than 51% hash power, that becomes an unspoken soft fork that will block these addresses.  For the moment, the Chinese government should make an agreement with 5 persons: the 5 biggest pools.

I don't think so. Even with 51% hashing power you wont be able to mine all blocks. So some blocks will be mined by non chinese miners and they will built on this blocks. invalidating 2 or more blocks thanks to the chinese will be bad for bitcoin and its price. People will simply go with another coin and i doubt that the miners will be happy about that, so they will not agree to blocking certain addresses.

This is definitely incorrect.

51% majority controls ALL the blocks if they want to.  They can
re-org the blockchain any time they want and undo any recent blocks
they want.

You are wrong and since you mention the recent blocks i think you understand why.
You need to have a valid blockchain. So if you want to change the 3rd most recent block, then you can not simply change this block. You will need to change the blocks build upon this block as well. Since they need to be valid you will have to mine them. The difficulty will remain the same but it will take you longer then the average 10 min. In the same time the original chain will be adding to its height. Therefore you can not chain it at any time. You can do it if you outperform the original chain, which will happen but also cause many orphaned blocks. People will not like that.

[Ziskinberg]

It's good that we are not controlled by the state, that way we will last longer and we will have the freedom to comply with the governmental rules and regulations. This reality would not also help us to achieve a massive adoption because without the support of the government an average joe type of people will not give their confidence over bitcoin and from time to time we will see manipulation which we have to play on.

[jakelyson]

That one aspect of bitcoin we can always count on. It is decentralized so no central government can ever control it. That is why etf was denied, they cannot control bitcoin.

[Sadlife]

Bitcoin is not in the scope of any government jurisdiction and cannot be controlled by these corrupt politicians that's why people loves it because of its decentralized feature.
Bitcoin has no rules or regulations but this doesn't mean that a country cannot ban or limit bitcoin currency in their nation they can still do that if they feel like this digital currency is being an hindrance to their fiat currency.