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July 16, 2017, 09:12:29 PM
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I really pity the child who would be adopted in a gay home, is this a ploy for the children to become gay as well, The marriage is bad enough, should the children go through this as well. It shouldn't be so.



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July 17, 2017, 01:46:43 AM
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I really pity the child who would be adopted in a gay home, is this a ploy for the children to become gay as well, The marriage is bad enough, should the children go through this as well. It shouldn't be so.

The kid is most likely to face taunts and bullying at the school. But the worst part is that, he/she is at least 50 times more likely than the kids from heterosexual homes to face sexual abuse. This is evident from studying the cases from the countries where homosexual adoption is legal.

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July 17, 2017, 03:23:26 AM
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Well, now look at it... gay people adopting babies thrown away by (presumably) straight people. Anyway, so there were actually studies and those found out that there were no negative effects? Good then. Orphans need families and allowing gay people increases the number of possible parents for them.

I think this became possible in Western countries because they got started with gay rights way earlier than others. Not sure if this tolerance will continue though, with right-wing leaders becoming more popular. This would take a long time to reach countries that currently don't allow same-sex unions. Probably at least 50 or so years after gay marriage is allowed would be the proper time to make adoption available, IMHO. That should allow time for some of the more bigoted in the population to die off first.

I really wouldn't suggest immediately allowing adoption right after same-sex marriage approval. The assholes might focus their anger on the kids instead (since they already failed to stop the parent marrying).

The main argue I've heard is that the child will fare badly as a result of it. Whether it is true or not is another question, but I think I saw a local study some time ago that gave that argument some credit. I'm on phone at the moment, so I don't really feel like trying to that study now though (and it wouldn't be in English anyway).

Personally, I am a little bit hesitant, but if it can be proven that a child growing up with parents of the same sex will have an equally good childhood as those coming from a "normal" family, then I do not see any problem with it.

The kids will only fare badly if the society their family belongs to look down on homosexual couples.
I agree with this. Though one's a gay it doesnt mean that they dont need a family. Adopting may help their unfulfilled needs or wants as a human, and as an orphan it is their right to have a guardian and Gays can provide it for them instead. I dont see any Wrongs as long as you can give love and care.

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July 17, 2017, 11:54:01 AM
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Well, now look at it... gay people adopting babies thrown away by (presumably) straight people. Anyway, so there were actually studies and those found out that there were no negative effects? Good then. Orphans need families and allowing gay people increases the number of possible parents for them.

I think this became possible in Western countries because they got started with gay rights way earlier than others. Not sure if this tolerance will continue though, with right-wing leaders becoming more popular. This would take a long time to reach countries that currently don't allow same-sex unions. Probably at least 50 or so years after gay marriage is allowed would be the proper time to make adoption available, IMHO. That should allow time for some of the more bigoted in the population to die off first.

I really wouldn't suggest immediately allowing adoption right after same-sex marriage approval. The assholes might focus their anger on the kids instead (since they already failed to stop the parent marrying).

The main argue I've heard is that the child will fare badly as a result of it. Whether it is true or not is another question, but I think I saw a local study some time ago that gave that argument some credit. I'm on phone at the moment, so I don't really feel like trying to that study now though (and it wouldn't be in English anyway).

Personally, I am a little bit hesitant, but if it can be proven that a child growing up with parents of the same sex will have an equally good childhood as those coming from a "normal" family, then I do not see any problem with it.

The kids will only fare badly if the society their family belongs to look down on homosexual couples.
I agree with this. Though one's a gay it doesnt mean that they dont need a family. Adopting may help their unfulfilled needs or wants as a human, and as an orphan it is their right to have a guardian and Gays can provide it for them instead. I dont see any Wrongs as long as you can give love and care.

Well today's society are more open now to gay couples and most doesn't really care about it. I personally don't have anything against it tough the challenge would for those in locations that doesn't support these kinds of union. The kid's growth may be quite challenging if their parent's aren't accepted by the society they belong to.

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July 17, 2017, 12:28:50 PM
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for me gay marriage  is ok as long as both of them is happy and not hurting other people , in some countries they accepting this kind of relationships but most countries do not because of discrimination .. and for the adoption , they can adopt as long as they can support the child , ,
Some countries forbid gay marriages not because of discrimination, but because of abnormalities. The normal marriage and what should happen is a marriage between two people, one male and one female, not between men with men and women with women.If there is a case of discrimination, it is because the path they choose is not normal.

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July 17, 2017, 12:49:48 PM
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for me gay marriage  is ok as long as both of them is happy and not hurting other people , in some countries they accepting this kind of relationships but most countries do not because of discrimination .. and for the adoption , they can adopt as long as they can support the child , ,
Some countries forbid gay marriages not because of discrimination, but because of abnormalities. The normal marriage and what should happen is a marriage between two people, one male and one female, not between men with men and women with women.If there is a case of discrimination, it is because the path they choose is not normal.

But if you will be thinking about the balance we have in our society, it is good. Guys population than women is so far, it is like 4 is to 1. which make it hard for other guys to pick their lifetime partners. It is not I am siding with the gay marriage and adoption, its just that it levels the playing field for the women. There are memes that I saw saying that boys marrying another boy are the heroes that sacrifice for the other guys.

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July 17, 2017, 01:00:47 PM
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Gay adoption is nothing new. Gays and lesbians have been adopting for a long time, but legislation has gradually changed, offering them more options than ever before. Some facts and issues are unique to this community.
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July 17, 2017, 01:03:49 PM
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For me personally, adoption is alright, i mean, every kid that has no parents are lonesome and has the right to be adopted. But for me the idea of "same sex marriage" isn't ideal and morally right. Aside from that we can compare this to the Principle of philosophy which is The principle of Identity, a subject or in this case a male/female cannot change his/her identity, for he/she is born a male/female. From my perspective growing up with a homosexual parents isn't normal, people is trying to change what they truly are, they keep wanting to be someone they cannot be, the adopted child that a homosexual will raise would not likely grow up normal, as to what a normal child would with a true mother and a true father. I agree to adoption but don't in Gay marriage.

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July 17, 2017, 01:15:31 PM
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I really pity the child who would be adopted in a gay home, is this a ploy for the children to become gay as well, The marriage is bad enough, should the children go through this as well. It shouldn't be so.

The kid is most likely to face taunts and bullying at the school. But the worst part is that, he/she is at least 50 times more likely than the kids from heterosexual homes to face sexual abuse. This is evident from studying the cases from the countries where homosexual adoption is legal.

Would have been great if you had provided any kind of study of course.
I mean it would have given some kind of legitimacy to your post.
Of course you can't because what you're saying is false but you could have tried.

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July 17, 2017, 01:24:22 PM
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for me gay marriage  is ok as long as both of them is happy and not hurting other people , in some countries they accepting this kind of relationships but most countries do not because of discrimination .. and for the adoption , they can adopt as long as they can support the child , ,
Some countries forbid gay marriages not because of discrimination, but because of abnormalities. The normal marriage and what should happen is a marriage between two people, one male and one female, not between men with men and women with women.If there is a case of discrimination, it is because the path they choose is not normal.

I agree with you.  It is not called discrimination because it is immoral to blessed and be in a holy sacrament the two person who are in both sex.  The church should only blessed and hold a ceremony for a couple on opposite sex.  Anyways gay people still have freedom to live in the same place and be a couple.  They can also adopt children as long as they can support them.

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thats piece of shit you know
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I'm not agreeing to gay marriage. Since God has only made a man and a woman. But I'm not saying that I'm opposing the 2nd genders (which are the bisexual, trans..). It is also not good to adopt if ever gay marriage has been approved because of the psychological matters that will inherit of the adopted child.

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I am against homosexual marriage and against propaganda of such perverted attitudes. Children should not see this, much less be adopted by such sick people.

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July 20, 2017, 12:22:37 PM
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I cant imagine living in a place where somebody can be punished for homosexuality. Take a second to think about that, somebody can actually be punished or killed for having feelings for another man. I don't think its necessarily a choice but even if it was why would it matter? Why should anybody care who somebody loves or has feelings for? how insecure do you have to be to be afraid of gay people? Of course in the same vein they are the same people as heterosexual people and should be entitled to the same adoption rights.
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July 20, 2017, 12:33:34 PM
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Homosexual people should not have the right to adopt, because they are huge peddlers of deadly diseases and they are mentally unwell. 2 men who boil testosterone will not be able to torture a child, because they are nature-oriented to protect and ensure offspring.

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July 20, 2017, 09:59:41 PM
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I cant imagine living in a place where somebody can be punished for homosexuality. Take a second to think about that, somebody can actually be punished or killed for having feelings for another man. I don't think its necessarily a choice but even if it was why would it matter? Why should anybody care who somebody loves or has feelings for? how insecure do you have to be to be afraid of gay people? Of course in the same vein they are the same people as heterosexual people and should be entitled to the same adoption rights.

Most of the people here live in places with homophobic cultures and generally uncomfortable with it.  I'd say religious brainwashing would have a lot to do with it as well.

They'd rather have children grow up in an orphanage than allow a gay couple to adopt.
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My country is against the gay marriage and i really don't care, i support it.
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July 22, 2017, 03:26:48 PM
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My country is against the gay marriage and i really don't care, i support it.

And there are still a lot of countries against it. Strict musim countries have laws against homosexuality and though i don't have anything against it, if you're living in such country, i think it would be best to just adhere to the law.

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July 22, 2017, 03:43:42 PM
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In many countries of the world homosexuality is still illegal and is sometimes even punished with death. (https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/d1/World_laws_pertaining_to_homosexual_relationships_and_expression.svg/1035px-World_laws_pertaining_to_homosexual_relationships_and_expression.svg.png)

In most Western countries, same sex marriage is now permitted. Adoption has also been allowed in some countries. There are no studies that show that children grow up badly in homosexual relationships.

Why do you think that so many Western countries have problems with same rights for homosexual ppl?
And what do you think about it personally?

I believe that gay couples should have a right to express themseleves however I am still not fully resolved on the right for then to have marriage as I also have my own beliefs however woth adoption if they have the capacity to do so and they are emotionally able then Ithink there would be nothing wrong i. That set up as I think gender does not make a man or woman better than others.

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July 22, 2017, 04:03:45 PM
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My country is against the gay marriage and i really don't care, i support it.

And there are still a lot of countries against it. Strict musim countries have laws against homosexuality and though i don't have anything against it, if you're living in such country, i think it would be best to just adhere to the law.

Homosexual people would simply need to emigrate from environments like that to a place where it is accepted, which can be difficult depending on where they live.
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