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August 09, 2017, 10:45:12 AM
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If Gay Marriage doesn't harm the society, then why do we have to judge them? What is important is that they are good citizens.

How can you be so sure that gay marriage doesn't harm the society? IMO, recognition of homosexual marriage can have a negative effect on the family values, and it will reduce the sanctity of marriage overall.

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August 09, 2017, 10:51:57 AM
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As long gay parents can provide a good life on the child and responsible enough to care one, there's nothing wrong with it.
People should just get over the fact that some people choose to love the same gender.
As long that their decisions doesn't affect your life, then there's nothing wrong with it.
People have their own personal beliefs and just learn to respect one another. Just because you don't believe in gay marriage, you need shove it to other people's mind that it's wrong.
Homosexuality is not a disease, being homophobic is one. Homophobic people needs to go to see a doctor or something.

Nowadays, many people are turn into gay. I don't see any problem with that because they don't commits any mistakes to other people's lives. Similarly, if two person loves each other they should be marry. And if a two gays want to have a baby, they should adopt a child from some management. If they can provide better future and if they can provide the things that the baby needed they can adopt a baby.

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August 09, 2017, 11:05:04 AM
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What made the western countries agree to it is probobly because they are mor liberals. Most of the countries that do not yet accept it and legalize it are the religious countries. Christians and Muslims alike do not tolerate it but the Jewish though they don't have same sex marriages yet but they don't condemn 2 same sex living together. They also allow child adoption to same sex couples. Personally i don't see adoption as something normal. I am thinking of the child's social well being. I don't think it is healthy for the child to be bullied for having same sex parents. 
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August 09, 2017, 01:19:04 PM
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In many countries of the world homosexuality is still illegal and is sometimes even punished with death. (https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/d1/World_laws_pertaining_to_homosexual_relationships_and_expression.svg/1035px-World_laws_pertaining_to_homosexual_relationships_and_expression.svg.png)

In most Western countries, same sex marriage is now permitted. Adoption has also been allowed in some countries. There are no studies that show that children grow up badly in homosexual relationships.

Why do you think that so many Western countries have problems with same rights for homosexual ppl?
And what do you think about it personally?

I think that today, there is no problem with homosexuality. The problem lies on the belief of people rooted for such a long time that marriage is for one man and one woman only. It is still frowned upon to have gay marriages work as people still believe that within that person they are still male and femae no matter what they say. However for adoption I believe that gender should not be an issue for that as gender does not kean better parents.

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August 09, 2017, 01:53:56 PM
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And if a two gays want to have a baby, they should adopt a child from some management.

Not this one. I am not in favor of gay adoption. The gay parents are much more likely to abuse their children, when compared to the heterosexual parents. Studies indicate that they are almost 50 times more likely to abuse children.

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August 09, 2017, 01:58:11 PM
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And if a two gays want to have a baby, they should adopt a child from some management.

Not this one. I am not in favor of gay adoption. The gay parents are much more likely to abuse their children, when compared to the heterosexual parents. Studies indicate that they are almost 50 times more likely to abuse children.

Please link the studies.

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August 11, 2017, 03:44:43 AM
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In many countries of the world homosexuality is still illegal and is sometimes even punished with death. (https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/d1/World_laws_pertaining_to_homosexual_relationships_and_expression.svg/1035px-World_laws_pertaining_to_homosexual_relationships_and_expression.svg.png)

In most Western countries, same sex marriage is now permitted. Adoption has also been allowed in some countries. There are no studies that show that children grow up badly in homosexual relationships.

Why do you think that so many Western countries have problems with same rights for homosexual ppl?
And what do you think about it personally?
I think that it all is stereotypes. It is sincerely sorry me these people. Although, they are probably happy to be just the same. However there it was, wrong to forbid to such people to be together. It is exceptional my opinion.

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August 11, 2017, 03:59:42 AM
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And if a two gays want to have a baby, they should adopt a child from some management.

Not this one. I am not in favor of gay adoption. The gay parents are much more likely to abuse their children, when compared to the heterosexual parents. Studies indicate that they are almost 50 times more likely to abuse children.

Please link the studies.

Not sure about the claim of 50 times, but I have heard that more than one-third of all the child sexual abuse is homosexual in nature. Considering that gays are only around 1% of the population, that would mean them having a 33 times higher chance of committing child sexual abuse.

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August 11, 2017, 07:25:51 AM
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Not sure about the claim of 50 times, but I have heard that more than one-third of all the child sexual abuse is homosexual in nature. Considering that gays are only around 1% of the population, that would mean them having a 33 times higher chance of committing child sexual abuse.

So essentially you have nothing but something someone has maybe said somewhere at some point to back up your claim. Doesn't seem like something that we should really believe then.

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Gays are mentally unhealthy and are spreaders of different infections. The child will be simply dangerous to be in such an incorrect family and I want that children do not suffer from such entertainments of unhealthy people.

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August 12, 2017, 05:18:49 AM
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Gays are mentally unhealthy and are spreaders of different infections. The child will be simply dangerous to be in such an incorrect family and I want that children do not suffer from such entertainments of unhealthy people.

I don't that's entirely accurate. A lot of gay people are actually a benefit to society with what they do and contribute. Its our outlook towards them that alienates these people when they also should have equal rights as long as its within the law and they're not stepping on others.

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Its ok to adopt and give respect to the gay but letting them to marry the same guy is not right in the eyes of the society, its like giving us sick taste when seeing two gays married

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Gay couple accused of sexually abusing adopted Russian boy for years


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An American pedophile has been convicted to 40 years in prison for years of sexual abuse of adopted Russian boy. His boyfriend from New Zealand who allegedly assisted in meticulously recording acts of sexual offence is going on trial at home.
Two members of the pedophile porn exchange ring Boy Lovers network, Mark J. Newton, 42 and his long-term partner Peter Truong, 36, were busted in 2011 on suspicion that they were sexually molesting their son, born to Russian mother in 2005.

A US judge in Indianapolis has imposed maximum sentence on American-born Mark J. Newton, 42, for sexual exploit of a minor and conspiracy to possess child pornography. Newton is also obliged to pay $400,000 in compensation to the boy’s account.

Newton’s boyfriend Peter Truong, 36, awaits court in New Zealand.

US District Judge Sarah Evans Barker explained that Mark Newton was tried at district court level to save a jury from seeing the images produced by the defendants.

“‘What can be said? What can be done to erase some of the horror of this?’’ Judge Barker said while handing down her sentence, sharing a belief that the pair deserved a stricter punishment.

‘‘Personally ... I think this is probably one of the worst [pedophile] rings ... if not the worst ring I’ve ever heard of,’’ investigator Brian Bone of the US Postal Inspection Service told reporters outside the US Federal Courtroom.

“Russian orphans always attracted foreign perverts because of accessibility. The foreigners were simply coming and taking children for money,” Russian Ombudsman for Children’s Rights Pavel Astakhov told RT.

Russia has recently adopted two laws on adoption of Russian children by foreign families. In December 2012, Russia adopted the ‘Dima Yakovlev Law’ banning American citizens from adopting Russian children. In June 2013, The State Duma passed an amendment that bans the adoption of Russian children by same-sex couples from abroad.

“In forbidding foreign adoptions we put a barrier against scoundrels,” Astakhov said, pointing out that he knows a number of similar cases when foreigners adopted children with solely sexual intent.

Astakhov told RT that the rehabilitation process for the boy, currently adopted by another American family, will take a long time. He noted that according to Russian law an adopted child remains a Russian citizen until lawful age and promised to closely follow boy’s life in the new family.

To avoid future harm to the child, the investigators named the boy ‘Adam’ in all official documents.

Astakhov stressed that he fully trusts the American specialists responsible for Adam’s rehabilitation.

“International cooperation in the sphere of struggle against pedophiles gives Russia an opportunity to identify, expose and punish the criminals, protect children,” he said.

The story of ‘Adam’
Reportedly, starting from 2002, the gay couple of Newton and Truong attempted to find a surrogate mother to give birth to their child. Having failed to find a surrogate mother in the US, where both were working at the time as computer experts, the pair finally found a woman in Russia who gave birth to their child for a fee of $8,000. Mark Newton is believed to be the biological father of the boy dubbed ‘Adam’.

Adam was handed over to Newton and Truong a mere five days after his birth in 2005.

Newton and Truong gave media interviews as a gay couple with an adopted child, stating that their son was born to a Russian surrogate mother they found on the internet.

“Being a father was an honor and a privilege that amounted to the best six years of my life,” Newton told the court minutes before his sentence was announced.

At the age of 22 months, Adam was sexually abused by his ‘adoptive parents’ for the first time. After that he was abused on a daily basis. The ‘parents’ took photos and video recorded practically everything they did to him.

Later on they made Adam available for sex with other members of the pedophile ring in Australia, France, Germany and the US, for which Newton and Truong had to travel extensively. The investigators have found proof of at least eight men in these countries having contact with Adam when he was between the ages of two and six.


Two of these pedophiles have been charged already: they are American residents John R. Powell, 41, a Florida-based lawyer, and Jason Bettuo, a 36-year-old Michigan tennis coach.

Adam was made to believe that the life he lived was normal. He was also trained to give ‘correct’ answers if questioned about his life by an outsider, so when investigators first talked to him they got no information about his parents’ double life.

As the investigation continued, it emerged that Newton and Truong had contacts with some children in Australia who had been questioned. But so far the investigators got no additional information from them.

https://www.rt.com/news/pedophile-syndicate-russian-boy-481/
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In many countries of the world homosexuality is still illegal and is sometimes even punished with death. (https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/d1/World_laws_pertaining_to_homosexual_relationships_and_expression.svg/1035px-World_laws_pertaining_to_homosexual_relationships_and_expression.svg.png)

In most Western countries, same sex marriage is now permitted. Adoption has also been allowed in some countries. There are no studies that show that children grow up badly in homosexual relationships.

Why do you think that so many Western countries have problems with same rights for homosexual ppl?
And what do you think about it personally?

i don't take its appropriate ,Gay marriage is not a matter of if, but when.  It will happen, nationwide, and so the real key is ensuring it happens sooner rather than later.
All of the arguments used by those opposed to gay marriage will look as silly, bigoted, prejudiced, and outdated as the arguments used by those who opposed desegregation, interracial marriage, suffrage, civil rights and so on years ago.

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