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July 01, 2017, 09:13:50 PM
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Im not against gay marriage, as long as they do love each other why not. They have the right to love anyone they like. The idea of adoption by Gay couples is quite good in a way that they can build there own family and live like a normal people. But my only concern is how would other kids thinks towards the adopted ones. Bullying is very common nowadays and It can damage not only mentally but the emotional side of the kid which can lead to suicidal state. Overall, I do agree in Gay marriage and only on the idea of adoption.

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July 13, 2017, 02:44:20 AM
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As for me, am not in support of gay marriage. It is illegal in my country and an abomination in the eye's of God and should be condemned in totality. And at the same time am not in support of adoption, either by the gay couple or homosexual people for i believe if everyone become gay or homosexual as they are, would there be children anywhere for them to adopt. So since there have choose to be what they are i believe there is still room for them to repent and come back to Jesus Christ or face the consequences in Hell.
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July 13, 2017, 03:28:00 AM
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As for me, am not in support of gay marriage. It is illegal in my country and an abomination in the eye's of God and should be condemned in totality. And at the same time am not in support of adoption, either by the gay couple or homosexual people for i believe if everyone become gay or homosexual as they are, would there be children anywhere for them to adopt. So since there have choose to be what they are i believe there is still room for them to repent and come back to Jesus Christ or face the consequences in Hell.

How about if someone is gay their entire life, get married to another gay person, and adopt a child who is straight.  Are they all going to hell?  And what if they all repent their "sin" before dying?  Then they all go to heaven?

How many gay people do you think are in hell right now, as you're reading this?  And how many pedophile priests are in heaven?  Cheesy

And lol @ condemning in totality.  Get on a plane dude.  Go see the world.  Smiley
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July 13, 2017, 08:38:15 AM
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As for me, am not in support of gay marriage. It is illegal in my country and an abomination in the eye's of God and should be condemned in totality. And at the same time am not in support of adoption, either by the gay couple or homosexual people for i believe if everyone become gay or homosexual as they are, would there be children anywhere for them to adopt. So since there have choose to be what they are i believe there is still room for them to repent and come back to Jesus Christ or face the consequences in Hell.

How about if someone is gay their entire life, get married to another gay person, and adopt a child who is straight.  Are they all going to hell?  And what if they all repent their "sin" before dying?  Then they all go to heaven?

How many gay people do you think are in hell right now, as you're reading this?  And how many pedophile priests are in heaven?  Cheesy

And lol @ condemning in totality.  Get on a plane dude.  Go see the world.  Smiley

Honestly, there is no way for us to know if the gay couple will go to hell or heaven. Also, if we assume that the gay couple goes to hell, why should the straight adopted child go to hell too as you implied? Because he/she had gay parents? Also, repentance isn't a one time instant thing. Repentance is not just saying you're sorry and you're instantly forgiven.

Also, who says those pedophile priests are in heaven? Being a priest isn't a free pass on going to heaven.

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July 13, 2017, 09:58:54 AM
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As for me, am not in support of gay marriage. It is illegal in my country and an abomination in the eye's of God and should be condemned in totality. And at the same time am not in support of adoption, either by the gay couple or homosexual people for i believe if everyone become gay or homosexual as they are, would there be children anywhere for them to adopt. So since there have choose to be what they are i believe there is still room for them to repent and come back to Jesus Christ or face the consequences in Hell.

How about if someone is gay their entire life, get married to another gay person, and adopt a child who is straight.  Are they all going to hell?  And what if they all repent their "sin" before dying?  Then they all go to heaven?

How many gay people do you think are in hell right now, as you're reading this?  And how many pedophile priests are in heaven?  Cheesy

And lol @ condemning in totality.  Get on a plane dude.  Go see the world.  Smiley

Lol.  I like the idea of travelling but maybe after I have enough earnings from bitcoins.  Well, we cannot also deny the fact that he was raised in a country which is conservative.  Also in our country the idea of gay marriage is strictly condemned by the church and other people, this gay couple vehemently give their points on their rights.  But I disagree with the idea of gay marriage, they could be a couple, living in the same house, but to be solemnized for me is not right.  But in the issue of adopting kids by the gay couple, I think it was just okay.
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July 13, 2017, 11:45:18 AM
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As for me, am not in support of gay marriage. It is illegal in my country and an abomination in the eye's of God and should be condemned in totality. And at the same time am not in support of adoption, either by the gay couple or homosexual people for i believe if everyone become gay or homosexual as they are, would there be children anywhere for them to adopt. So since there have choose to be what they are i believe there is still room for them to repent and come back to Jesus Christ or face the consequences in Hell.

How about if someone is gay their entire life, get married to another gay person, and adopt a child who is straight.  Are they all going to hell?  And what if they all repent their "sin" before dying?  Then they all go to heaven?

How many gay people do you think are in hell right now, as you're reading this?  And how many pedophile priests are in heaven?  Cheesy

And lol @ condemning in totality.  Get on a plane dude.  Go see the world.  Smiley

Lol.  I like the idea of travelling but maybe after I have enough earnings from bitcoins.  Well, we cannot also deny the fact that he was raised in a country which is conservative.  Also in our country the idea of gay marriage is strictly condemned by the church and other people, this gay couple vehemently give their points on their rights.  But I disagree with the idea of gay marriage, they could be a couple, living in the same house, but to be solemnized for me is not right.  But in the issue of adopting kids by the gay couple, I think it was just okay.
I have nothing against gay marriage since I have lots of gay couple friends even though I'm living in a Catholic and conservative country but it is already 2017 and we have to open our minds and hearts to the LGBT Community. I also have nothing against if these gay couples adopt a child as long as they can provide the neccessary things that the child needs and they will be good parents to the child. Everyone deserves to love and to be loved.
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July 14, 2017, 03:58:37 AM
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As for me, am not in support of gay marriage. It is illegal in my country and an abomination in the eye's of God and should be condemned in totality. And at the same time am not in support of adoption, either by the gay couple or homosexual people for i believe if everyone become gay or homosexual as they are, would there be children anywhere for them to adopt. So since there have choose to be what they are i believe there is still room for them to repent and come back to Jesus Christ or face the consequences in Hell.

How about if someone is gay their entire life, get married to another gay person, and adopt a child who is straight.  Are they all going to hell?  And what if they all repent their "sin" before dying?  Then they all go to heaven?

How many gay people do you think are in hell right now, as you're reading this?  And how many pedophile priests are in heaven?  Cheesy

And lol @ condemning in totality.  Get on a plane dude.  Go see the world.  Smiley

Lol.  I like the idea of travelling but maybe after I have enough earnings from bitcoins.  Well, we cannot also deny the fact that he was raised in a country which is conservative.  Also in our country the idea of gay marriage is strictly condemned by the church and other people, this gay couple vehemently give their points on their rights.  But I disagree with the idea of gay marriage, they could be a couple, living in the same house, but to be solemnized for me is not right.  But in the issue of adopting kids by the gay couple, I think it was just okay.

Well for the sake of getting to travel and opening your mind, let's hope your Bitcoin account does well lol.

But if your country is homophobic, those cultural beliefs and ideas have manipulated you.  You could have been born anywhere in the world, and there would be a different localized culture and belief system there.  Wouldn't it be better to question these ideas rationally and morally to see if it makes sense?

Imagine if you were born in a Buddhist or Jewish family.  Would you just be victim to a different set of ideas than you have now as a Catholic?  If you believe something just because the people around you do, there is no reasoning with that type of thinking.  Think about if your parents weren't Catholic - would you have found your way to it?
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July 14, 2017, 04:23:13 AM
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I disagree with same-sex marriage. Because it is not love but a sex disorder. Gays will not be able to give birth to offspring. How can a human being regenerate if married to one another because it is a disease.

I also disagree if gay couples adopt a child. Because the role of a father and a mother can not be roled by others. A man will play the role of how he becomes a father. So also with a mother would be better if roled by a woman. Because the affection of a father with a mother is different. A mother or a woman has more affection than a man. Because man = logic: feeling = 9: 1 and woman logic: feeling = 1: 9.
So if a child is cared for or adopted by a gay couple will undermine the growth of children and children will tend to imitate them.
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July 14, 2017, 05:26:53 AM
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for me gay marriage  is ok as long as both of them is happy and not hurting other people , in some countries they accepting this kind of relationships but most countries do not because of discrimination .. and for the adoption , they can adopt as long as they can support the child , ,

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July 14, 2017, 09:08:28 PM
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I think, it is okay for people to choose a partner based on their personal preferences, not on the law of the countries.
Adoption is also good, because ppl actually leave their people on the streets. It is better to have some parents than to have none.
It is just my opinion, I agitate no one.
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July 15, 2017, 12:21:27 AM
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For me the idea with marriage is that it is between two people only and what they can produce (deliver). So, as with the rest of nature, it is only a male and a female that can procreate. However, since much better understanding of homosexuality have been made (through research), it might be possible in future to determine at molecular (DNA) level if an individual will be homosexual at sexual maturity. In this case, it would be befitting if an orphan be placed with a homosexual couple.

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July 16, 2017, 04:43:24 PM
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Lol i think if they marry, how do they have children? And if all human beings in the world experience the same kind of injurious sickness, then where are the human descendants whether it will be the end of the world
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July 16, 2017, 05:45:55 PM
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I predict that mostly gays are from western countries.

I think thats just because gay ppl in western countries are "visible" to others. In other countries gays don't tell that they are gay and live in a heterosexual relationship because they fear reprisals.

If gays would have right to adopt kids, these kids growing in gay family can understand it as normal thing and and they can become to be gays.

Science don't have a real answer to the question why and when someone become gay. But I don't think that more ppl will become gay because they have same sex parents. I mean most gay ppl were raised in heterosexual families Cheesy
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July 16, 2017, 08:58:40 PM
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I support the marriage, but the adoption i think is more delicated.
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July 16, 2017, 09:12:29 PM
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I really pity the child who would be adopted in a gay home, is this a ploy for the children to become gay as well, The marriage is bad enough, should the children go through this as well. It shouldn't be so.
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July 17, 2017, 01:46:43 AM
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I really pity the child who would be adopted in a gay home, is this a ploy for the children to become gay as well, The marriage is bad enough, should the children go through this as well. It shouldn't be so.

The kid is most likely to face taunts and bullying at the school. But the worst part is that, he/she is at least 50 times more likely than the kids from heterosexual homes to face sexual abuse. This is evident from studying the cases from the countries where homosexual adoption is legal.

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July 17, 2017, 03:23:26 AM
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Well, now look at it... gay people adopting babies thrown away by (presumably) straight people. Anyway, so there were actually studies and those found out that there were no negative effects? Good then. Orphans need families and allowing gay people increases the number of possible parents for them.

I think this became possible in Western countries because they got started with gay rights way earlier than others. Not sure if this tolerance will continue though, with right-wing leaders becoming more popular. This would take a long time to reach countries that currently don't allow same-sex unions. Probably at least 50 or so years after gay marriage is allowed would be the proper time to make adoption available, IMHO. That should allow time for some of the more bigoted in the population to die off first.

I really wouldn't suggest immediately allowing adoption right after same-sex marriage approval. The assholes might focus their anger on the kids instead (since they already failed to stop the parent marrying).

The main argue I've heard is that the child will fare badly as a result of it. Whether it is true or not is another question, but I think I saw a local study some time ago that gave that argument some credit. I'm on phone at the moment, so I don't really feel like trying to that study now though (and it wouldn't be in English anyway).

Personally, I am a little bit hesitant, but if it can be proven that a child growing up with parents of the same sex will have an equally good childhood as those coming from a "normal" family, then I do not see any problem with it.

The kids will only fare badly if the society their family belongs to look down on homosexual couples.
I agree with this. Though one's a gay it doesnt mean that they dont need a family. Adopting may help their unfulfilled needs or wants as a human, and as an orphan it is their right to have a guardian and Gays can provide it for them instead. I dont see any Wrongs as long as you can give love and care.

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Well, now look at it... gay people adopting babies thrown away by (presumably) straight people. Anyway, so there were actually studies and those found out that there were no negative effects? Good then. Orphans need families and allowing gay people increases the number of possible parents for them.

I think this became possible in Western countries because they got started with gay rights way earlier than others. Not sure if this tolerance will continue though, with right-wing leaders becoming more popular. This would take a long time to reach countries that currently don't allow same-sex unions. Probably at least 50 or so years after gay marriage is allowed would be the proper time to make adoption available, IMHO. That should allow time for some of the more bigoted in the population to die off first.

I really wouldn't suggest immediately allowing adoption right after same-sex marriage approval. The assholes might focus their anger on the kids instead (since they already failed to stop the parent marrying).

The main argue I've heard is that the child will fare badly as a result of it. Whether it is true or not is another question, but I think I saw a local study some time ago that gave that argument some credit. I'm on phone at the moment, so I don't really feel like trying to that study now though (and it wouldn't be in English anyway).

Personally, I am a little bit hesitant, but if it can be proven that a child growing up with parents of the same sex will have an equally good childhood as those coming from a "normal" family, then I do not see any problem with it.

The kids will only fare badly if the society their family belongs to look down on homosexual couples.
I agree with this. Though one's a gay it doesnt mean that they dont need a family. Adopting may help their unfulfilled needs or wants as a human, and as an orphan it is their right to have a guardian and Gays can provide it for them instead. I dont see any Wrongs as long as you can give love and care.

Well today's society are more open now to gay couples and most doesn't really care about it. I personally don't have anything against it tough the challenge would for those in locations that doesn't support these kinds of union. The kid's growth may be quite challenging if their parent's aren't accepted by the society they belong to.

 
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July 17, 2017, 12:28:50 PM
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for me gay marriage  is ok as long as both of them is happy and not hurting other people , in some countries they accepting this kind of relationships but most countries do not because of discrimination .. and for the adoption , they can adopt as long as they can support the child , ,
Some countries forbid gay marriages not because of discrimination, but because of abnormalities. The normal marriage and what should happen is a marriage between two people, one male and one female, not between men with men and women with women.If there is a case of discrimination, it is because the path they choose is not normal.
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July 17, 2017, 12:49:48 PM
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for me gay marriage  is ok as long as both of them is happy and not hurting other people , in some countries they accepting this kind of relationships but most countries do not because of discrimination .. and for the adoption , they can adopt as long as they can support the child , ,
Some countries forbid gay marriages not because of discrimination, but because of abnormalities. The normal marriage and what should happen is a marriage between two people, one male and one female, not between men with men and women with women.If there is a case of discrimination, it is because the path they choose is not normal.

But if you will be thinking about the balance we have in our society, it is good. Guys population than women is so far, it is like 4 is to 1. which make it hard for other guys to pick their lifetime partners. It is not I am siding with the gay marriage and adoption, its just that it levels the playing field for the women. There are memes that I saw saying that boys marrying another boy are the heroes that sacrifice for the other guys.

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