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[ccc222]

I cant believe no one has seen this before. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1887360.msg18747362#msg18747362   Roll numbers are in the server seed lmao

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[somuchee]

hi , was trying to make a withdrawal . it seems not working (few attempts same) .
user : ttman

http://image.prntscr.com/image/ef7249ece2da4d3a8a7212395ca6b8c3.png

[adaseb]

I cant believe no one has seen this before. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1887360.msg18747362#msg18747362   Roll numbers are in the server seed lmao

I don't understand. You only have the actual Unhashed Server Seed after you make the bet. So they just add that roll to the end of the Seed.

First you have the Server Seed: 5KTV..................MWQWO which is hashed into SHA256 which is E7A5B70...........E3262

After you roll, it shows you the 5KTV.... seed and they just put your roll into the seed spot so its easier to see if you are making the calculation yourself.

[MafiaCoin]

"Unlike standard gaming sites which promise true randomness and third party review, we offer true fairness. Using simple cryptography we can 100percent prove not just promise that each roll is completely random and honest. Because at the end of the day, why trust people when you can trust numbers?"

What are you actually saying??   So I can trust you and your "Simple Cryptography" that isnt explained(must be too complicated) but you said also "why trust people"   weird..we cant trust numbers we cant see..read on
Also there is no way to actually verify past bets....IS there?
Theres no CLIENT SEED
Your "Server seed" changes every roll...so once it rolls again, i cant go back to verify anything but the current roll result
THAT IS NOT PROVABLY FAIR....
In your chat you made numerous references to Primedice...and "Unlike Primedice" this and that....Most likely the biggest, most used btc gaming site there is....Edward is like the Godfather..LOL
Youre ui looks ok, but the rest is SERIOUSLY flawed, and appears to be run by children...not by Pro's for sure...and not by anyone with credibility..sorry...off to a rough start guys...Get Gooder

because he is cheater!!!
SCAM
He stole my deposit 0.0033BTC

[MafiaCoin]

hi , was trying to make a withdrawal . it seems not working (few attempts same) .
user : ttman

http://image.prntscr.com/image/ef7249ece2da4d3a8a7212395ca6b8c3.png

Yes,

because is scam!

how much your winnings?

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1877660.0

He is cheater and scammer!!!

[ParaDice.io]

hi , was trying to make a withdrawal . it seems not working (few attempts same) .
user : ttman

http://image.prntscr.com/image/ef7249ece2da4d3a8a7212395ca6b8c3.png

The problem was solved, we're sorry for delay.

Good luck

[MafiaCoin]

I cant believe no one has seen this before. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1887360.msg18747362#msg18747362   Roll numbers are in the server seed lmao

I don't understand. You only have the actual Unhashed Server Seed after you make the bet. So they just add that roll to the end of the Seed.

First you have the Server Seed: 5KTV..................MWQWO which is hashed into SHA256 which is E7A5B70...........E3262

After you roll, it shows you the 5KTV.... seed and they just put your roll into the seed spot so its easier to see if you are making the calculation yourself.

Yes he manipulate roll

OMG!!!

we catch him.

fake seed!!!

sha256(cM641efQW5kDjWdBjR3Dv933GO-57.99193000000000353111317963339388) = 5fd2ddf0535d8d60cb3d6f19f9a7eec8cf8211fa2ea75e902a730b5c1f7c6a91



Last Bet:

Server Seed sha256:

5fd2ddf0535d8d60cb3d6f19f9a7eec8cf8211fa2ea75e902a730b5c1f7c6a91

Server Seed:

cM641efQW5kDjWdBjR3Dv933GO-57.99193000000000353111317963339388

He manipulate this digit..
cM641efQW5kDjWdBjR3Dv933GO-57.99193000000000353111317963339388
and made fake seed!!!

He use xx.xx digit only

if cange last digit result is fake!!!

sha256(cM641efQW5kDjWdBjR3Dv933GO-57.99193000000000353111317963339381)=28bb1a8cbb6d84fa150b1f0582aab210ff02bf374886f3a7c1eac539abc4726f


This is not provably fair game!

[somuchee]

hi , was trying to make a withdrawal . it seems not working (few attempts same) .
user : ttman

http://image.prntscr.com/image/ef7249ece2da4d3a8a7212395ca6b8c3.png

The problem was solved, we're sorry for delay.

Good luck

withdrawal works .. thx for replying thru pm . also my bad was not on chat when u
mention theres some downtime for withdrawal . 

[ParaDice.io]

I cant believe no one has seen this before. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1887360.msg18747362#msg18747362   Roll numbers are in the server seed lmao

I don't understand. You only have the actual Unhashed Server Seed after you make the bet. So they just add that roll to the end of the Seed.

First you have the Server Seed: 5KTV..................MWQWO which is hashed into SHA256 which is E7A5B70...........E3262

After you roll, it shows you the 5KTV.... seed and they just put your roll into the seed spot so its easier to see if you are making the calculation yourself.

Yes he manipulate roll

OMG!!!

we catch him.

fake seed!!!

sha256(cM641efQW5kDjWdBjR3Dv933GO-57.99193000000000353111317963339388) = 5fd2ddf0535d8d60cb3d6f19f9a7eec8cf8211fa2ea75e902a730b5c1f7c6a91



Last Bet:

Server Seed sha256:

5fd2ddf0535d8d60cb3d6f19f9a7eec8cf8211fa2ea75e902a730b5c1f7c6a91

Server Seed:

cM641efQW5kDjWdBjR3Dv933GO-57.99193000000000353111317963339388

He manipulate this digit..
cM641efQW5kDjWdBjR3Dv933GO-57.99193000000000353111317963339388
and made fake seed!!!

He use xx.xx digit only

if cange last digit result is fake!!!

sha256(cM641efQW5kDjWdBjR3Dv933GO-57.99193000000000353111317963339381)=28bb1a8cbb6d84fa150b1f0582aab210ff02bf374886f3a7c1eac539abc4726f


This is not provably fair game!

Please stop spamming our main thread.

If you have any acusation about us please visit scam accusations.

[Roboabhishek]

I thought that mafia coin and his Alt " Sarul " Got permabanned already for spamming the forum and making false accusations.
Lauda also didn't take any strict action against his alt and on mafiacoin.

[TATAR]

Hello. This site is not provable fair, dont play here.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1887360

[MafiaCoin]

I thought that mafia coin and his Alt " Sarul " Got permabanned already for spamming the forum and making false accusations.
Lauda also didn't take any strict action against his alt and on mafiacoin.

Are you stupid? This is not my account!
I don't spam, post fact only!
Paradice.io use fake seed and change it.. Stole money from players.
Need close this shit site.

Not only i said about.. Few case of scam.

[Lieldoryn]

"Unlike standard gaming sites which promise true randomness and third party review, we offer true fairness. Using simple cryptography we can 100percent prove not just promise that each roll is completely random and honest. Because at the end of the day, why trust people when you can trust numbers?"

What are you actually saying??   So I can trust you and your "Simple Cryptography" that isnt explained(must be too complicated) but you said also "why trust people"   weird..we cant trust numbers we cant see..read on
Also there is no way to actually verify past bets....IS there?
Theres no CLIENT SEED
Your "Server seed" changes every roll...so once it rolls again, i cant go back to verify anything but the current roll result
THAT IS NOT PROVABLY FAIR....
In your chat you made numerous references to Primedice...and "Unlike Primedice" this and that....Most likely the biggest, most used btc gaming site there is....Edward is like the Godfather..LOL
Youre ui looks ok, but the rest is SERIOUSLY flawed, and appears to be run by children...not by Pro's for sure...and not by anyone with credibility..sorry...off to a rough start guys...Get Gooder

because he is cheater!!!
SCAM
He stole my deposit 0.0033BTC

You're lying! I just yesterday brought out 0,0038 btc and I have not had any problems. I watch it because once a week taking out the money. You order competitors?

[MafiaCoin]

You're lying! I just yesterday brought out 0,0038 btc and I have not had any problems. I watch it because once a week taking out the money. You order competitors?

see it
my deposit: https://blockchain.info/tx/5cc2130282a4584c80bb45bfbb56feeb5e7075f0410a3582adf7b49c9d8e0faa

after withdraw.. he post about doublespend.. this is shit!
balance added after 1 confirmation.

[wuvdoll]

I read all your long messages, what thing is clear, no one should gamble if they can't afford to lose.

I really don't understand the use of faucet, maybe for fun sometimes.

If you go to a real casino who  will give you free money every 5 minutes to try their slots?

Let's be serious

Yeah faucets are also standalone websites as well. They give people “free Money” (even tough its less than a cent probably) and in return they make money off ads. Well in casinos you attract people with that free money and hope that they will spend it on gambling. Plus if you get them hooked enough you get their money.

[BTCevo]

You're lying! I just yesterday brought out 0,0038 btc and I have not had any problems. I watch it because once a week taking out the money. You order competitors?

Nahh, that is not the main problem here. Not just because you get your 0.0038 withdraw safely, does not make it provably fair system. And why should they scam your 0.0038 if there is more to scam. I do not know yet if this site is scam or not. Mafiacoin already told that it is not provably fair, need to check it forst before we can jump to the conclusion

[Bitinity]

Seems that we need rhavar or NLNico who are the master of provably fair system to check the provably fair system of paradice. Once there is a review of someone who are expert on it then we will know the fact. Hoping one of them come to this thread and give a review.

[adaseb]

The way this site processes their provably fair system is a little different however

Using http://www.xorbin.com/tools/sha256-hash-calculator

Last Bet:

Server Seed sha256:

5fd2ddf0535d8d60cb3d6f19f9a7eec8cf8211fa2ea75e902a730b5c1f7c6a91

Server Seed:

cM641efQW5kDjWdBjR3Dv933GO-57.99193000000000353111317963339388


The sha256 is given BEFORE you roll. So you know that the winning number was going to be 57.99

This is no different then Primedice or other website out there. EVERY CASINO KNOWS THE RESULTS BEFORE THE ROLL TAKES PLACE... only the gambler doesn't know the roll until after the roll is done.

I don't see anything wrong here.

[flippy]

Coindice - the script that Paradice is built upon - generates the number fairly in the sense that it's randomly chosen and not biased. It's provably fair at the hash level - the player's roll is the same as the roll that the site provides the hash of - but it's not provably fair at the RNG level. The admin could theoretically edit the code so that it generates biased results and players wouldn't know or be able to do anything about it (due to the lack of a client seed). However, it's unlikely that Paradice (or any other site) would do anything like that - such a system implemented without great care could make a site more vulnerable to potential exploits - and I'm pretty sure there's no scam going on here, at least with the rolls. MafiaCoin's 'proof' post makes no sense - at best he just has no idea how it works, at worst he's just trying to cause trouble.

However, while it's unlikely that the site is cheating, personally I'd advise steering clear of paradice unless they implement a true provably fair system with a client seed option and rework their rules. A 'one account per user' rule on a Coindice-based site - where users are likely to accidentally create multiple accounts due to the automatic generation of them - is suspicious and could be used as an excuse to withhold legitimate withdrawals, and the same goes for a horribly vague rule like 'don't faucet farm' rather than having specific limitations on the use of the faucet.

[MafiaCoin]

Coindice - the script that Paradice is built upon - generates the number fairly in the sense that it's randomly chosen and not biased. It's provably fair at the hash level - the player's roll is the same as the roll that the site provides the hash of - but it's not provably fair at the RNG level. The admin could theoretically edit the code so that it generates biased results and players wouldn't know or be able to do anything about it (due to the lack of a client seed). However, it's unlikely that Paradice (or any other site) would do anything like that - such a system implemented without great care could make a site more vulnerable to potential exploits - and I'm pretty sure there's no scam going on here, at least with the rolls. MafiaCoin's 'proof' post makes no sense - at best he just has no idea how it works, at worst he's just trying to cause trouble.

However, while it's unlikely that the site is cheating, personally I'd advise steering clear of paradice unless they implement a true provably fair system with a client seed option and rework their rules. A 'one account per user' rule on a Coindice-based site - where users are likely to accidentally create multiple accounts due to the automatic generation of them - is suspicious and could be used as an excuse to withhold legitimate withdrawals, and the same goes for a horribly vague rule like 'don't faucet farm' rather than having specific limitations on the use of the faucet.

I know how it works sha256-512 and provably fair!

I catch, he change seed. If use big amount, every bet lost and use fake seed.
Do you want try this shit provably system with bets 0.05btc and more?
I placed bets and he give fake seed.. After remove my account!

SHA of seed before bet and after is different!
SCAM