Are the U.S. and Russia / Eastern Europe still enemies?

[PeterTheGrape]

This is something difficult to figure out.

A very old person would remember when Russians were sort of like isis or al qaeda is today. All you had to know about somebody was that they were Russian, and you knew they were plotting to destroy the world.

A middle aged person would remember a sort of detente and some cooperation with Russia and Eastern European countries, even sympathy for some of the miseries people in that region endured.

A young person today looks at supposed Russian meddling in the U.S. election and it seems like no big deal. Is it because Russia does not threaten the U.S., or is it because the two countries are not hostile still?

The world seems to be shifting from 'western caucasian vs eastern caucasian' in politics to 'caucasian vs asian' in economics. China is taking over de facto control of African resources, often in a more ethical way than the United States did for decades. So is China the enemy now? If the furthest east asian culture, Native Americans, becomes more powerful will it be a step towards civilization or away from it? Or something else?

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[santaclaws]

I wouldn't call them enemies. I don't think they were ever enemies.. Just rivals. Like any emerging economy will be a rival to the US.

[Lancusters]

I wouldn't call them enemies. I don't think they were ever enemies.. Just rivals. Like any emerging economy will be a rival to the US.

Here it is not only about the economy. The Russian economy is so weak that it poses no competition for America. The fact that Putin's Russia poses a threat to any civilized country. Russian is a completely different system of values. This aggressive inadequate country. Russia is the enemy for any democratic country.

[InvoKing]

I wouldn't call them enemies. I don't think they were ever enemies.. Just rivals. Like any emerging economy will be a rival to the US.

USSR VS USA were just rivals?
What about Cuba's missiles and such events that could led at any moment to a nuclear war...
Besides, wouldn't call Russia an emerging economy
For China it has a huge potential but still needs to improve its army with a better technology

[Lieldoryn]

Russia is still the enemy of the West. Putin is a thief. He and his team lives by the fact that steal from their people. It is in their interests that people in all countries were poor and didn't give good examples of the Russian people.

[coolcoinz]

I wouldn't call them enemies. I don't think they were ever enemies.. Just rivals. Like any emerging economy will be a rival to the US.

Many Eastern European countries were the enemies of Russia. Don't put them all in one basket! The Soviets used many of them as military bases and supply centers for their vast army and had agents and puppet governments that allowed them to influence the life of citizens and keep the countries in poverty. To give you an example Poland was occupied by Russia in the 18th century and later, after it gained independence, it was attacked and destroyed by Russians and Germans in 1939. Russians later claimed to have liberated the country from the Germans, but it was the Russians that served the country to the Germans on a silver platter in the first place. Look at what is being said in Ukraine about Russia, not much love towards them outside of the Crimea.

[squatz1]

I'd still think that they're some sort of enemies due to the simple thing of the past tensions between the two nations (US and Russia) when the cold-war was occuring. This is the reason for a lot of the tension we see today when you're attempting to show why these two countries seem to hate each-other and do things to spite each-other.

We still today more or less follow the policy of trying to beat the Russians in anyway possible, thought this isn't held as dear as in the Cold-War when beating the Russians was something that the whole country had held dear to their hearts. But, I feel that the US does seem to beat the Russians in tons of ways these days and economies are things that can't even be compared due to Russia having sucha a small economy when it's being compared to the global Superpower of the United States.

I wouldn't call them enemies. I don't think they were ever enemies.. Just rivals. Like any emerging economy will be a rival to the US.

Calling them Rivals sounds better too.

[Sithara007]

I wouldn't call them enemies. I don't think they were ever enemies.. Just rivals. Like any emerging economy will be a rival to the US.

The Americans have done their best to destroy the Russian economy and its demographics using sanctions and various below the belt tricks. The US is responsible for the heroin epidemic in Russia, which has caused millions of deaths till now.

[Mometaskers]

I wouldn't call them enemies. I don't think they were ever enemies.. Just rivals. Like any emerging economy will be a rival to the US.

Here it is not only about the economy. The Russian economy is so weak that it poses no competition for America. The fact that Putin's Russia poses a threat to any civilized country. Russian is a completely different system of values. This aggressive inadequate country. Russia is the enemy for any democratic country.

Yes. Considering their economy has never been great as compared to other Western countries and yet they go around invading other countries' turf, I guess that's enough for some people to see where their priorities are. China is also doing the same thing though save for Tibet, most of the territory their invading are uninhabited unlike Crimea.

I wouldn't call them enemies. I don't think they were ever enemies.. Just rivals. Like any emerging economy will be a rival to the US.

Many Eastern European countries were the enemies of Russia. Don't put them all in one basket! The Soviets used many of them as military bases and supply centers for their vast army and had agents and puppet governments that allowed them to influence the life of citizens and keep the countries in poverty. To give you an example Poland was occupied by Russia in the 18th century and later, after it gained independence, it was attacked and destroyed by Russians and Germans in 1939. Russians later claimed to have liberated the country from the Germans, but it was the Russians that served the country to the Germans on a silver platter in the first place. Look at what is being said in Ukraine about Russia, not much love towards them outside of the Crimea.

I've seen a Stratfor vid that explain that this attitude came from Russia being a geographically open country. So as they reasoned out, the policy to invade or finlandize surrounding countries is meant to somehow "push" the border farther to areas that would be easily defended.

[Sithara007]

I wouldn't call them enemies. I don't think they were ever enemies.. Just rivals. Like any emerging economy will be a rival to the US.

Here it is not only about the economy. The Russian economy is so weak that it poses no competition for America. The fact that Putin's Russia poses a threat to any civilized country. Russian is a completely different system of values. This aggressive inadequate country. Russia is the enemy for any democratic country.

Yes. Considering their economy has never been great as compared to other Western countries and yet they go around invading other countries' turf, I guess that's enough for some people to see where their priorities are. China is also doing the same thing though save for Tibet, most of the territory their invading are uninhabited unlike Crimea.

Crimea is historically ethnic Russian territory, which was temporarily placed under Ukrainian administration in 1954. At that time, certain promises were made to the people of Crimea. These promises were not fulfilled, and the people decided to go back to Russia.

[canah17]

This is something difficult to figure out.

A very old person would remember when Russians were sort of like isis or al qaeda is today. All you had to know about somebody was that they were Russian, and you knew they were plotting to destroy the world.

A middle aged person would remember a sort of detente and some cooperation with Russia and Eastern European countries, even sympathy for some of the miseries people in that region endured.

A young person today looks at supposed Russian meddling in the U.S. election and it seems like no big deal. Is it because Russia does not threaten the U.S., or is it because the two countries are not hostile still?

The world seems to be shifting from 'western caucasian vs eastern caucasian' in politics to 'caucasian vs asian' in economics. China is taking over de facto control of African resources, often in a more ethical way than the United States did for decades. So is China the enemy now? If the furthest east asian culture, Native Americans, becomes more powerful will it be a step towards civilization or away from it? Or something else?

Well, i think they are not enemies because if they are enemies they would be not dealing with business with each other but they are dealing with each other in business but they are just rivals in growing their economy its like they are just competing with each other in order to show dominance to different countries that they are the biggest and the well built economy....

[Barmen]

I wouldn't call them enemies. I don't think they were ever enemies.. Just rivals. Like any emerging economy will be a rival to the US.

Here it is not only about the economy. The Russian economy is so weak that it poses no competition for America. The fact that Putin's Russia poses a threat to any civilized country. Russian is a completely different system of values. This aggressive inadequate country. Russia is the enemy for any democratic country.

Yes. Considering their economy has never been great as compared to other Western countries and yet they go around invading other countries' turf, I guess that's enough for some people to see where their priorities are. China is also doing the same thing though save for Tibet, most of the territory their invading are uninhabited unlike Crimea.

Crimea is historically ethnic Russian territory, which was temporarily placed under Ukrainian administration in 1954. At that time, certain promises were made to the people of Crimea. These promises were not fulfilled, and the people decided to go back to Russia.

No promises was not fulfilled. Ukraine after the transfer of the Crimea turned it into a place suitable for life. There were put in fresh water, built infrastructure. In addition, for the Crimea to Russia was given the North of the region, Taganrog, Kuban and Stavropol.

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aggressive inadequate country

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unethical_human_experimentation_in_the_United_States

What a perfect example of democracy.

The United States apologized on Friday for an experiment conducted in the 1940s in which U.S. government researchers deliberately infected Guatemalan prison inmates, women and mental patients with syphilis.

In the experiment, aimed at testing the then-new drug penicillin, inmates were infected by prostitutes and later treated with the antibiotic.

"The sexually transmitted disease inoculation study conducted from 1946-1948 in Guatemala was clearly unethical," Secretary of State Hillary Clinton and Health and Human Services Secretary Kathleen Sebelius said in a statement.

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-guatemala-experiment-idUSTRE6903RZ20101001

[criptix]

I wouldn't call them enemies. I don't think they were ever enemies.. Just rivals. Like any emerging economy will be a rival to the US.

Here it is not only about the economy. The Russian economy is so weak that it poses no competition for America. The fact that Putin's Russia poses a threat to any civilized country. Russian is a completely different system of values. This aggressive inadequate country. Russia is the enemy for any democratic country.

Yes. Considering their economy has never been great as compared to other Western countries and yet they go around invading other countries' turf, I guess that's enough for some people to see where their priorities are. China is also doing the same thing though save for Tibet, most of the territory their invading are uninhabited unlike Crimea.

Crimea is historically ethnic Russian territory, which was temporarily placed under Ukrainian administration in 1954. At that time, certain promises were made to the people of Crimea. These promises were not fulfilled, and the people decided to go back to Russia.

Ukraine ceded all their nuclear weapons (3rd biggest in the world in 1991; 1700+ warheads) to russia and got a promise of independence and sovereignty (Budapest memorandum; 1994).
Today we know that paper is worthless:

The United States of America, the Russian Federation, and the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland,

Welcoming the accession of Ukraine to the Treaty on the Non-Proliferation of Nuclear Weapons as non-nuclear-weapon State,

Taking into account the commitment of Ukraine to eliminate all nuclear weapons from its territory within a specified period of time,

Noting the changes in the world-wide security situation, including the end of the Cold War, which have brought about conditions for deep reductions in nuclear forces.

Confirm the following:

1. The Russian Federation, the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland and the United States of America reaffirm their commitment to Ukraine, in accordance with the principles of the Final Act of the Conference on Security and Cooperation in Europe, to respect the independence and sovereignty and the existing borders of Ukraine.

2. The Russian Federation, the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland and the United States of America reaffirm their obligation to refrain from the threat or use of force against the territorial integrity or political independence of Ukraine, and that none of their weapons will ever be used against Ukraine except in self-defence or otherwise in accordance with the Charter of the United Nations.

3. The Russian Federation, the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland and the United States of America reaffirm their commitment to Ukraine, in accordance with the principles of the Final Act of the Conference on Security and Cooperation in Europe, to refrain from economic coercion designed to subordinate to their own interest the exercise by Ukraine of the rights inherent in its sovereignty and thus to secure advantages of any kind.

4. The Russian Federation, the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland and the United States of America reaffirm their commitment to seek immediate United Nations Security Council action to provide assistance to Ukraine, as a non-nuclear-weapon State party to the Treaty on the Non-Proliferation of Nuclear Weapons, if Ukraine should become a victim of an act of aggression or an object of a threat of aggression in which nuclear weapons are used.

5. The Russian Federation, the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland and the United States of America reaffirm, in the case of Ukraine, their commitment not to use nuclear weapons against any non-nuclear-weapon State party to the Treaty on the Non-Proliferation of Nuclear Weapons, except in the case of an attack on themselves, their territories or dependent territories, their armed forces, or their allies, by such a State in association or alliance with a nuclear-weapon State.

6. Ukraine, the Russian Federation, the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland and the United States of America will consult in the event a situation arises that raises a question concerning these commitments.

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promise of independence and sovereignty

There are no promises to provide the Ethnic Cleansing and apartheid .

[criptix]

promise of independence and sovereignty

There are no promises to provide the Ethnic Cleansing and apartheid.

So there was a russian genocide happening in crimea?

[Forester618]

promise of independence and sovereignty

There are no promises to provide the Ethnic Cleansing and apartheid .

Interestingly you have at least one example of ethnic cleansing in Ukraine, except the crucifixion of a boy? Tell the truth do you believe in all this nonsense that you write or you pay for it.

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So there was a russian genocide happening in crimea?

About what are You talking? Do You call the "Crimean Jew Republic" as "Russian"?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6aMtrynfJSw (In Russian)

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you have at least one example of ethnic cleansing in Ukraine

Here is Ex Ukraine,
Shelling of Lugansk City, act of Ethnic Cleansing, made for expelling civilians from the City.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LAg61hEI_yM
http://rian.com.ua/video/20150213/363427793.html (In Russian)
https://ria.ru/world/20150212/1047208166.html (In Russian)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Forced_displacement

[Hazir]

They are both to blame: Russian are not that evil and USA is not that amazingly saint as people might think.
There is no government on Earth which will be still in power after disclosing every secret and hidden operation to the public.
Governments control the society with confusion and disinformation, every single one of them.
Someone wise once said: "No modern government could exist for 24 hours if it told the people the truth."