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Author Topic: [ANN] ⚽ XFCCOIN ▐ Fantasy Football Manager Revolution!▐Swap and exchange open ⚽  (Read 129475 times)
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December 08, 2017, 02:07:49 PM
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Rules for Placating Investors

Rule 1: Do not replace defined deadlines with undefined deadlines. We went from November/December to 'cannot make a promise about a specific date', which could mean December, it could mean April, it could mean never.

Rule 2: Provide concrete answers to questions. "What exchanges will XFCCoin be on?" Dev Answer: "We applied to several major exchanges". This tells us nothing, how about "We applied to Bittrex on October 7, status: application pending, We applied to Cryptopia on October 27, status: application processing". Something concrete, something that tells us a) what exchanges it will be on, and b) the status. Otherwise it seems like you are telling us nothing, which you may well be, you may not be, we don't know, it's impossible to know.

Rule 3: Provide concrete actionable steps related to the in-game economy and how it relates to the current RAPID fluctuations and volatility with Bitcoin....

I, as an investor, join you. Patience and optimism are gone, after the promise in November to go on exchange. And I think WE ALL need to demand a final date. Any project has a deadline.

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December 08, 2017, 04:39:09 PM
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hi dev,
  cloud we have some update before friday ? a week is not long but may be enough to solve some problem .

Thanks for your involvement.
Clearly, recent developments show the great potential of a game like FootballCoin.
I cannot make a promise about a specific date. I can, however, promise that all problems are ironed out before the release. In this way we can avoid the problems that arose with other projects, for example, cryptokitties, that a user mentioned earlier.

Rules for Placating Investors

Rule 1: Do not replace defined deadlines with undefined deadlines. We went from November/December to 'cannot make a promise about a specific date', which could mean December, it could mean April, it could mean never.

Rule 2: Provide concrete answers to questions. "What exchanges will XFCCoin be on?" Dev Answer: "We applied to several major exchanges". This tells us nothing, how about "We applied to Bittrex on October 7, status: application pending, We applied to Cryptopia on October 27, status: application processing". Something concrete, something that tells us a) what exchanges it will be on, and b) the status. Otherwise it seems like you are telling us nothing, which you may well be, you may not be, we don't know, it's impossible to know.

Rule 3: Provide concrete actionable steps related to the in-game economy and how it relates to the current RAPID fluctuations and volatility with Bitcoin. A basic player card currently costs 200 dollars due to Bitcoin's value, which, when compared to more expensive cards currently makes this the most expensive game to play in the entire world. Do you intend to either a) alter amounts in the swap from the previous exchange rate under the ICO when you switch to the new blockchain, so a person who invested 2.66BTC for 250K coins would receive more while keeping player prices the same, or will the player prices go down, or, the best solution, will they fluctuate with the market and not be pinned to a specific retail price?

It is to your advantage, especially now that you have your own blockchain, to have XFCCoin on major exchanges in order to get a solid combination of investors to make XFC worth something, and therefore prizes for the actual game to be worth something, which, in turn, will attract fantasy sports enthusiasts as well as gamblers, as well as to attract new players. People will not learn about this game through your own website alone nor will they learn about it through your own individual exchange, as it will be a needle in a haystack of cryptocurrency exchanges. My fear is that once you have your own exchange, your priorities will shift to be less concerned about getting it listed on popular crypto exchanges, and this is a huge mistake, not only for your investors, but for yourselves. But I wouldn't know, because we aren't told anything concrete. Normal ICOs have their coin on an exchange within ONE MONTH of the end of an ICO, you read that correctly, ONE MONTH.

Rule 4: Provide updates about the status of ongoing initiatives, status of the blockchain, where the wallet is, WITHOUT people having to kick, scream, yell, threaten, or explode in a ball of rage in order to get a response. We have waited a VERY long time (in the crypto world) for this project to come to fruition, and these updates, at this point, are not even a measure of good will, they are required given how long this whole process has been drawn out. People believe in this project, if everything was on track, you wouldn't have to give them a reason to keep believing, but given the endless delays, you owe your investors that, at the very least.

Rule 5: I know this will be a tough nut to swallow, but if you are unable to consistently meet deadlines after a number of failures, you should be offering to repurchase XFC from original investors at the price it was issued. Inability to meet deadlines, inability to provide clear guidance, inability to provide a solid, realistic roadmap and meet objectives on time, reliably, and advertise thus forfeits your ability to continue to make empty promises and action and goodwill should be regained through Rule 5. Would it suck for the project? Absolutely, but there is a pretty clear line between being in a realistic development cycle, especially when compared to other projects, and borderline scam-like behavior, which we are beginning to get to due to violations of Rules 1, 2, 3, and 4. There needs to be consequences, or you will just go on indefinitely telling us a whole lot of nothing.

You can choose to ignore this, you can choose to respond and begin to address these. But after seeing definable deadlines suddenly, inexplicably replaced by "we can't give you a defined date", you can't even give a date range at this point, means you are probably just profiting off of the rise of BTC yourselves, while egging on people that once believed in your project but are now growing sour after an exorbitant wait time with milestones shrouded in mystery until threats are made, and the only thing offered is some vague empty promises and/or a screenshot of something.


Thank you for your feedback. I can tell you have taken the time to provide a detailed answer. Thank you for that. Rules, of course, as you well know, are not usually enforced on groups you do not have authority over.  Wink

Regarding your concerns, you will find the information that will answer those in our previous replies.
We are sorry the exchange and blockchain were not released quicker, naturally. We appreciate your patience. The time will, however, have been well spent in ensuring the system is properly working.
Once again, thank you for your reply and feedback and please do not think in any way I am condescending in my reply. I believe we have a similar goal and discussions will help improve the vision and execution of it.

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December 08, 2017, 05:13:48 PM
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wow I just popped into this topic to read about a project that replicates football manager by ea (but with blockchain) but it seems that the project desappointed its' investors a lot... Huh Sad but sports-connected icos (tokenstars also) just don't work

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December 08, 2017, 05:40:17 PM
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wow I just popped into this topic to read about a project that replicates football manager by ea (but with blockchain) but it seems that the project desappointed its' investors a lot... Huh Sad but sports-connected icos (tokenstars also) just don't work

I think it works well as a football manager game using cryptocurrency and blockchain technology.
As for any of the criticism, if you'll take a look, you'll see it's all due to some users' desire to get the exchange out there faster so that they can cash in their XFCCOIN. Which is their right. But many other users are looking towards the benefit of the investment.
If you'll take a look at the web site and the technology behind the game, you'll see it runs very well.

Are you a long time FM player, btw?  Grin Grin Grin
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December 08, 2017, 06:21:39 PM
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As an XFC investor I have remained quiet until now and have generally just read the comments on the forum from time to time, as well as twitter.  I have tried to remain optimistic but at this point I can honestly say that I've lost pretty much all my confidence and patience in this project.

While I understand that things can and do go wrong in the world of crypto, and that delays and setbacks are always a possibility, this project not only seems to have those setbacks but also suffers from extremely poor communication as well, despite how much the developers deny that fact.  Nearly all questions are either ignored or answered with vague and evasive responses.  There's no roadmap, no obvious deadlines, or even a range of time given for anything.  Legitimate projects do not run in this manner.

And unfortunately it looks like a huge amount of good will was burned in November, based on the other comments on this forum.  There were quite a few postings here and twitter saying that the blockchain was ready, the wallet was ready, the exchange was ready, everything was working well, etc, etc and then suddenly there was nothing.  What the hell happened?  Again, isn't this where a normal project would give a detailed answer regarding exactly what's wrong, what will be done about it, and a range of time needed to accomplish this goal? 

While I may not share JamesWeb6's enthusiasm to see the team tossed into a bag of angry weasels or whatever, I certainly do share the frustration of quite a few of the people on this forum.  The idea behind Footballcoin was a good one but the execution of the project has been dismal.  Again, having honest and detailed answers to questions would have gone a long way in helping everyone here.  Instead, we get vague answers and condescension for the people who would like to trade their XFC and move on.  I hope this project is one that will prosper in the future but the more time passes, the more I start agreeing with other here that it may be a scam.  I get no pleasure in saying that.   Sad
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December 08, 2017, 06:46:22 PM
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wow I just popped into this topic to read about a project that replicates football manager by ea (but with blockchain) but it seems that the project desappointed its' investors a lot... Huh Sad but sports-connected icos (tokenstars also) just don't work

I think it works well as a football manager game using cryptocurrency and blockchain technology.
As for any of the criticism, if you'll take a look, you'll see it's all due to some users' desire to get the exchange out there faster so that they can cash in their XFCCOIN. Which is their right. But many other users are looking towards the benefit of the investment.
If you'll take a look at the web site and the technology behind the game, you'll see it runs very well.


We have heard it many many times. We just need clarity and a deadline date. You don't catch fish, you're doing a project. Any Project must have a deadline and a business plan.

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December 08, 2017, 07:03:10 PM
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As an XFC investor I have remained quiet until now and have generally just read the comments on the forum from time to time, as well as twitter.  I have tried to remain optimistic but at this point I can honestly say that I've lost pretty much all my confidence and patience in this project.

While I understand that things can and do go wrong in the world of crypto, and that delays and setbacks are always a possibility, this project not only seems to have those setbacks but also suffers from extremely poor communication as well, despite how much the developers deny that fact.  Nearly all questions are either ignored or answered with vague and evasive responses.  There's no roadmap, no obvious deadlines, or even a range of time given for anything.  Legitimate projects do not run in this manner.


And unfortunately it looks like a huge amount of good will was burned in November, based on the other comments on this forum.  There were quite a few postings here and twitter saying that the blockchain was ready, the wallet was ready, the exchange was ready, everything was working well, etc, etc and then suddenly there was nothing.  What the hell happened?  Again, isn't this where a normal project would give a detailed answer regarding exactly what's wrong, what will be done about it, and a range of time needed to accomplish this goal? 

While I may not share JamesWeb6's enthusiasm to see the team tossed into a bag of angry weasels or whatever, I certainly do share the frustration of quite a few of the people on this forum.  The idea behind Footballcoin was a good one but the execution of the project has been dismal.  Again, having honest and detailed answers to questions would have gone a long way in helping everyone here.  Instead, we get vague answers and condescension for the people who would like to trade their XFC and move on.  I hope this project is one that will prosper in the future but the more time passes, the more I start agreeing with other here that it may be a scam.  I get no pleasure in saying that.   Sad


I dont understand you people. How this can be scam when its confirmed that footballcoin is partnering with the reputable ANX INTERNATIONAL???HOW???
I read EVerything in this thread and invested in other ICO's too and I know that devs cannot disclose any dates and exch names because exchanges dont wish so. Its normal. Developers are online 24/7. XFC GO!!! You have big support. Goodluck.
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December 08, 2017, 07:04:19 PM
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Go Footballcoin XFC !!!!! Very excited for platforms to get up & running !!!

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December 08, 2017, 07:33:21 PM
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I see Messi is now endorsing a blockchain-related company.  Too bad it wasn't this one.   Roll Eyes
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December 08, 2017, 08:41:42 PM
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FOOTBALLCOIN COMMUNITY IS EXPANDING!!! 1090 users!!
10 more each week!!!
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December 08, 2017, 08:43:43 PM
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200,000 XFC for each, with current XFC circulation!!!
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December 08, 2017, 10:40:44 PM
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Guys, when this new exchange is finally up and tested we can then have our coinage off of counterparty forever. Make it so, devs! Then I want to see what this ANX Int'l has in store for heavy growth PR.
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December 08, 2017, 11:13:31 PM
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I keep telling people that we've been scammed but no one wants to listen. They also have fake posters acting excited about a project that has no clear dates for anything. Its easy to spot the shills. No one would be excited about a project that consistently misses at everything. This project was supposed to be released months ago. It doesnt take that long to do what they claimed to be doing. Remember last month they said the project was finished. What happened? Its almost the 2nd week of December and still more of nothing. Its a reason why theyre so evasive and can never give a clear answer for anything. I just feel bad for the people that invested a lot of bitcoin into this crap. With the rise of bitcoin thats a huge loss and this xfc team could care less.
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December 08, 2017, 11:23:00 PM
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Hell these people wont even fix the wallets so you can remove the excess bitcoin you have in them. We've asked them to fix that for months and you want to believe theyve created a whole new blockchain. Please! These people have spent our money and have no idea what to do next.
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December 08, 2017, 11:31:21 PM
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Guys, when this new exchange is finally up and tested we can then have our coinage off of counterparty forever. Make it so, devs! Then I want to see what this ANX Int'l has in store for heavy growth PR.

Finger crossed. It can be a catch22, The Ethereum token economy is huge and it's much easier for exchanges to add an Ethereum token than a separate blockchain.

In fact the irony is that ANX who specialise in creating customised blockchains have a project you can invest in, OpenANX (OAX)... but guess what... it's an Ethereum token like everyone else  Cheesy  

https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/oax/#charts

Even EOS which will be a direct competitor to ETH is tradeable as an ETH token  Cheesy
EOS could have created a tradeable token on BTS which does 100x more volume than Counterparty DEX btw (Daniel Larimer, created BTS & EOS) but he knew the market and value of EOS would be massively higher if tradeable as an ETH Token.

Even if you're creating your own blockchain it still makes a lot of sense to have your main token tradeable on Ethereum. 
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December 08, 2017, 11:59:35 PM
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Is XFCCoin still with your active dev? When I joined the forum in May I had been interested in participating but at the time I did not have enough money for such an operation, is it still interesting to participate? When to exchange?

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December 09, 2017, 12:03:48 AM
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Is XFCCoin still with your active dev? When I joined the forum in May I had been interested in participating but at the time I did not have enough money for such an operation, is it still interesting to participate? When to exchange?

Tradeable on Counterparty Exchange as XFCCOIN - https://counterwallet.io
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Guys, when this new exchange is finally up and tested we can then have our coinage off of counterparty forever. Make it so, devs! Then I want to see what this ANX Int'l has in store for heavy growth PR.

Finger crossed. It can be a catch22, The Ethereum token economy is huge and it's much easier for exchanges to add an Ethereum token than a separate blockchain.

In fact the irony is that ANX who specialise in creating customised blockchains have a project you can invest in, OpenANX (OAX)... but guess what... it's an Ethereum token like everyone else  Cheesy  

https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/oax/#charts

Even EOS which will be a direct competitor to ETH is tradeable as an ETH token  Cheesy
EOS could have created a tradeable token on BTS which does 100x more volume than Counterparty DEX btw (Daniel Larimer, created BTS & EOS) but he knew the market and value of EOS would be massively higher if tradeable as an ETH Token.

Even if you're creating your own blockchain it still makes a lot of sense to have your main token tradeable on Ethereum. 


Sounds like all the more reason why we'll probably never see XFC traded anywhere but on the DigitalTokens exchange.  Well, assuming the exchange eventually gets here.  I'm certainly not convinced so far.
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December 09, 2017, 12:47:19 AM
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I will be filing a complaint with the SEC soon if we dont see something other than screenshots that could've easily been made in photoshop.

I mean, at what point do you say enough is enough nonsense?

I'll look into how we go about doing that. Perhaps gathering a list of names from the people who got scammed would be best. Anyway, I'll look into it.
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XFCCOIN is an important part of the fantasy football player into the block chain technology, very happy to see the team actively communicate with the community, I like to play games to earn money. Grin

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