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Author Topic: [ANN] ⚽ XFCCOIN ▐The first Fantasy Football Manager blockchain game!▐ ⚽  (Read 167205 times)
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December 07, 2017, 04:00:09 PM
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December 07, 2017, 04:01:57 PM
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Should be ready the fifth week of Nevuary for sure.
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Thanks for the twitter update.  Looks good.  It would be great if everything could launch this month while the crypto market is hot.

I certainly see your point and this is being taken into account. I've personally tested the systems in question and they seem to be running well.

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December 07, 2017, 04:11:15 PM
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decentraland crazy .game is start to be attentioned
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Some marketing content  Smiley

How do you make a crypto-currency appealing and relatable to the man in the street all over the world?

FootballCoin! A currency centred on the world's most popular sport & its three billion plus worldwide fans! A sport which is also about to have the world's most popular event, the FIFA World Cup in June 2018!

Now for the first time ever, thanks to XFC's custom, high speed, scalable blockchain which delivers an unrivalled fantasy soccer experience, the world's 3.5 billion football fans can use Football Coins to collect, trade and compete using limited & unforgeable player cards from Ronaldo to Messi!

Soon to be packed with additional features like football themed XFC debit cards, content and shows as well as marketing specifically targeted at a Football and FIFA World Cup audience, XFC is the ONLY crypto capable of leveraging the world's most popular sport to potentially become the platform and currency of choice for billions of football fans around the world in 2018!

Launching soon...

https://www.footballcoin.io/what-is-xfc/
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December 07, 2017, 07:36:14 PM
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Some marketing content  Smiley

How do you make a crypto-currency appealing and relatable to the man in the street all over the world?

FootballCoin! A currency centred on the world's most popular sport & its three billion plus worldwide fans! A sport which is also about to have the world's most popular event, the FIFA World Cup in June 2018!

Now for the first time ever, thanks to XFC's custom, high speed, scalable blockchain which delivers an unrivalled fantasy soccer experience, the world's 3.5 billion football fans can use Football Coins to collect, trade and compete using limited & unforgeable player cards from Ronaldo to Messi!

Soon to be packed with additional features like football themed XFC debit cards, content and shows as well as marketing specifically targeted at a Football and FIFA World Cup audience, XFC is the ONLY crypto capable of leveraging the world's most popular sport to potentially become the platform and currency of choice for billions of football fans around the world in 2018!

Launching soon...

https://www.footballcoin.io/what-is-xfc/

Well done sir!  That's an excellent draft.  I applaud you for your writing and for the fact that you were able to post it at exactly 4:44:44.  Impeccable timing! 
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Which exchanges will XFC be listed on?
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hi dev,
  cloud we have some update before friday ? a week is not long but may be enough to solve some problem .

Thanks for your involvement.
Clearly, recent developments show the great potential of a game like FootballCoin.
I cannot make a promise about a specific date. I can, however, promise that all problems are ironed out before the release. In this way we can avoid the problems that arose with other projects, for example, cryptokitties, that a user mentioned earlier.

Rules for Placating Investors

Rule 1: Do not replace defined deadlines with undefined deadlines. We went from November/December to 'cannot make a promise about a specific date', which could mean December, it could mean April, it could mean never.

Rule 2: Provide concrete answers to questions. "What exchanges will XFCCoin be on?" Dev Answer: "We applied to several major exchanges". This tells us nothing, how about "We applied to Bittrex on October 7, status: application pending, We applied to Cryptopia on October 27, status: application processing". Something concrete, something that tells us a) what exchanges it will be on, and b) the status. Otherwise it seems like you are telling us nothing, which you may well be, you may not be, we don't know, it's impossible to know.

Rule 3: Provide concrete actionable steps related to the in-game economy and how it relates to the current RAPID fluctuations and volatility with Bitcoin. A basic player card currently costs 200 dollars due to Bitcoin's value, which, when compared to more expensive cards currently makes this the most expensive game to play in the entire world. Do you intend to either a) alter amounts in the swap from the previous exchange rate under the ICO when you switch to the new blockchain, so a person who invested 2.66BTC for 250K coins would receive more while keeping player prices the same, or will the player prices go down, or, the best solution, will they fluctuate with the market and not be pinned to a specific retail price?

It is to your advantage, especially now that you have your own blockchain, to have XFCCoin on major exchanges in order to get a solid combination of investors to make XFC worth something, and therefore prizes for the actual game to be worth something, which, in turn, will attract fantasy sports enthusiasts as well as gamblers, as well as to attract new players. People will not learn about this game through your own website alone nor will they learn about it through your own individual exchange, as it will be a needle in a haystack of cryptocurrency exchanges. My fear is that once you have your own exchange, your priorities will shift to be less concerned about getting it listed on popular crypto exchanges, and this is a huge mistake, not only for your investors, but for yourselves. But I wouldn't know, because we aren't told anything concrete. Normal ICOs have their coin on an exchange within ONE MONTH of the end of an ICO, you read that correctly, ONE MONTH.

Rule 4: Provide updates about the status of ongoing initiatives, status of the blockchain, where the wallet is, WITHOUT people having to kick, scream, yell, threaten, or explode in a ball of rage in order to get a response. We have waited a VERY long time (in the crypto world) for this project to come to fruition, and these updates, at this point, are not even a measure of good will, they are required given how long this whole process has been drawn out. People believe in this project, if everything was on track, you wouldn't have to give them a reason to keep believing, but given the endless delays, you owe your investors that, at the very least.

Rule 5: I know this will be a tough nut to swallow, but if you are unable to consistently meet deadlines after a number of failures, you should be offering to repurchase XFC from original investors at the price it was issued. Inability to meet deadlines, inability to provide clear guidance, inability to provide a solid, realistic roadmap and meet objectives on time, reliably, and advertise thus forfeits your ability to continue to make empty promises and action and goodwill should be regained through Rule 5. Would it suck for the project? Absolutely, but there is a pretty clear line between being in a realistic development cycle, especially when compared to other projects, and borderline scam-like behavior, which we are beginning to get to due to violations of Rules 1, 2, 3, and 4. There needs to be consequences, or you will just go on indefinitely telling us a whole lot of nothing.

You can choose to ignore this, you can choose to respond and begin to address these. But after seeing definable deadlines suddenly, inexplicably replaced by "we can't give you a defined date", you can't even give a date range at this point, means you are probably just profiting off of the rise of BTC yourselves, while egging on people that once believed in your project but are now growing sour after an exorbitant wait time with milestones shrouded in mystery until threats are made, and the only thing offered is some vague empty promises and/or a screenshot of something.
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December 08, 2017, 12:21:52 AM
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hi dev,
  cloud we have some update before friday ? a week is not long but may be enough to solve some problem .

Thanks for your involvement.
Clearly, recent developments show the great potential of a game like FootballCoin.
I cannot make a promise about a specific date. I can, however, promise that all problems are ironed out before the release. In this way we can avoid the problems that arose with other projects, for example, cryptokitties, that a user mentioned earlier.

Rules for Placating Investors

Rule 1: Do not replace defined deadlines with undefined deadlines. We went from November/December to 'cannot make a promise about a specific date', which could mean December, it could mean April, it could mean never.

Rule 2: Provide concrete answers to questions. "What exchanges will XFCCoin be on?" Dev Answer: "We applied to several major exchanges". This tells us nothing, how about "We applied to Bittrex on October 7, status: application pending, We applied to Cryptopia on October 27, status: application processing". Something concrete, something that tells us a) what exchanges it will be on, and b) the status. Otherwise it seems like you are telling us nothing, which you may well be, you may not be, we don't know, it's impossible to know.

Rule 3: Provide concrete actionable steps related to the in-game economy and how it relates to the current RAPID fluctuations and volatility with Bitcoin. A basic player card currently costs 200 dollars due to Bitcoin's value, which, when compared to more expensive cards currently makes this the most expensive game to play in the entire world. Do you intend to either a) alter amounts in the swap from the previous exchange rate under the ICO when you switch to the new blockchain, so a person who invested 2.66BTC for 250K coins would receive more while keeping player prices the same, or will the player prices go down, or, the best solution, will they fluctuate with the market and not be pinned to a specific retail price?

It is to your advantage, especially now that you have your own blockchain, to have XFCCoin on major exchanges in order to get a solid combination of investors to make XFC worth something, and therefore prizes for the actual game to be worth something, which, in turn, will attract fantasy sports enthusiasts as well as gamblers, as well as to attract new players. People will not learn about this game through your own website alone nor will they learn about it through your own individual exchange, as it will be a needle in a haystack of cryptocurrency exchanges. My fear is that once you have your own exchange, your priorities will shift to be less concerned about getting it listed on popular crypto exchanges, and this is a huge mistake, not only for your investors, but for yourselves. But I wouldn't know, because we aren't told anything concrete. Normal ICOs have their coin on an exchange within ONE MONTH of the end of an ICO, you read that correctly, ONE MONTH.

Rule 4: Provide updates about the status of ongoing initiatives, status of the blockchain, where the wallet is, WITHOUT people having to kick, scream, yell, threaten, or explode in a ball of rage in order to get a response. We have waited a VERY long time (in the crypto world) for this project to come to fruition, and these updates, at this point, are not even a measure of good will, they are required given how long this whole process has been drawn out. People believe in this project, if everything was on track, you wouldn't have to give them a reason to keep believing, but given the endless delays, you owe your investors that, at the very least.

Rule 5: I know this will be a tough nut to swallow, but if you are unable to consistently meet deadlines after a number of failures, you should be offering to repurchase XFC from original investors at the price it was issued. Inability to meet deadlines, inability to provide clear guidance, inability to provide a solid, realistic roadmap and meet objectives on time, reliably, and advertise thus forfeits your ability to continue to make empty promises and action and goodwill should be regained through Rule 5. Would it suck for the project? Absolutely, but there is a pretty clear line between being in a realistic development cycle, especially when compared to other projects, and borderline scam-like behavior, which we are beginning to get to due to violations of Rules 1, 2, 3, and 4. There needs to be consequences, or you will just go on indefinitely telling us a whole lot of nothing.

You can choose to ignore this, you can choose to respond and begin to address these. But after seeing definable deadlines suddenly, inexplicably replaced by "we can't give you a defined date", you can't even give a date range at this point, means you are probably just profiting off of the rise of BTC yourselves, while egging on people that once believed in your project but are now growing sour after an exorbitant wait time with milestones shrouded in mystery until threats are made, and the only thing offered is some vague empty promises and/or a screenshot of something.

You have a good and solid point and these points not only applies to Footballcoin but to all cryptocoin as well, number 5 is so hard to swallow, devs needs to give us concrete and correct details on everything, I still believe in Footballcoin but they need to change how they tackle these questions.

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December 08, 2017, 06:12:55 AM
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hi dev,
  cloud we have some update before friday ? a week is not long but may be enough to solve some problem .

Thanks for your involvement.
Clearly, recent developments show the great potential of a game like FootballCoin.
I cannot make a promise about a specific date. I can, however, promise that all problems are ironed out before the release. In this way we can avoid the problems that arose with other projects, for example, cryptokitties, that a user mentioned earlier.

Rules for Placating Investors

Rule 1: Do not replace defined deadlines with undefined deadlines. We went from November/December to 'cannot make a promise about a specific date', which could mean December, it could mean April, it could mean never.

Rule 2: Provide concrete answers to questions. "What exchanges will XFCCoin be on?" Dev Answer: "We applied to several major exchanges". This tells us nothing, how about "We applied to Bittrex on October 7, status: application pending, We applied to Cryptopia on October 27, status: application processing". Something concrete, something that tells us a) what exchanges it will be on, and b) the status. Otherwise it seems like you are telling us nothing, which you may well be, you may not be, we don't know, it's impossible to know.

Rule 3: Provide concrete actionable steps related to the in-game economy and how it relates to the current RAPID fluctuations and volatility with Bitcoin. A basic player card currently costs 200 dollars due to Bitcoin's value, which, when compared to more expensive cards currently makes this the most expensive game to play in the entire world. Do you intend to either a) alter amounts in the swap from the previous exchange rate under the ICO when you switch to the new blockchain, so a person who invested 2.66BTC for 250K coins would receive more while keeping player prices the same, or will the player prices go down, or, the best solution, will they fluctuate with the market and not be pinned to a specific retail price?

It is to your advantage, especially now that you have your own blockchain, to have XFCCoin on major exchanges in order to get a solid combination of investors to make XFC worth something, and therefore prizes for the actual game to be worth something, which, in turn, will attract fantasy sports enthusiasts as well as gamblers, as well as to attract new players. People will not learn about this game through your own website alone nor will they learn about it through your own individual exchange, as it will be a needle in a haystack of cryptocurrency exchanges. My fear is that once you have your own exchange, your priorities will shift to be less concerned about getting it listed on popular crypto exchanges, and this is a huge mistake, not only for your investors, but for yourselves. But I wouldn't know, because we aren't told anything concrete. Normal ICOs have their coin on an exchange within ONE MONTH of the end of an ICO, you read that correctly, ONE MONTH.

Rule 4: Provide updates about the status of ongoing initiatives, status of the blockchain, where the wallet is, WITHOUT people having to kick, scream, yell, threaten, or explode in a ball of rage in order to get a response. We have waited a VERY long time (in the crypto world) for this project to come to fruition, and these updates, at this point, are not even a measure of good will, they are required given how long this whole process has been drawn out. People believe in this project, if everything was on track, you wouldn't have to give them a reason to keep believing, but given the endless delays, you owe your investors that, at the very least.

Rule 5: I know this will be a tough nut to swallow, but if you are unable to consistently meet deadlines after a number of failures, you should be offering to repurchase XFC from original investors at the price it was issued. Inability to meet deadlines, inability to provide clear guidance, inability to provide a solid, realistic roadmap and meet objectives on time, reliably, and advertise thus forfeits your ability to continue to make empty promises and action and goodwill should be regained through Rule 5. Would it suck for the project? Absolutely, but there is a pretty clear line between being in a realistic development cycle, especially when compared to other projects, and borderline scam-like behavior, which we are beginning to get to due to violations of Rules 1, 2, 3, and 4. There needs to be consequences, or you will just go on indefinitely telling us a whole lot of nothing.

You can choose to ignore this, you can choose to respond and begin to address these. But after seeing definable deadlines suddenly, inexplicably replaced by "we can't give you a defined date", you can't even give a date range at this point, means you are probably just profiting off of the rise of BTC yourselves, while egging on people that once believed in your project but are now growing sour after an exorbitant wait time with milestones shrouded in mystery until threats are made, and the only thing offered is some vague empty promises and/or a screenshot of something.

Very well thought out and written, unfortunately this will be ignored by the devs. or scammers?
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December 08, 2017, 09:34:28 AM
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Everyone wishes the project was ready a while ago but XFC is far from the only project that has taken a while to develop and had delays.
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December 08, 2017, 10:57:49 AM
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You made some great, clear points about how to improve communication and it must have taken some time to write that out so clearly, as a fellow investor, thank you for that effort.

To the devs, I would also say, even if you were delivering according to the initial roadmap, for a lot of crypto projects, I'm sure the developers feel like it's a constant stream of 'Give me. Give me!' & 'When? When? Are we there yet? Are we there yet?' From investors which can be frustrating especially if PR is not your thing.

I think a good example to emulate is MaidSafe. They have spent many years developing and have yet to deliver a Beta and progress is extremely slow, I actually haven't been invested in them for a while as a result but what they do do is give a very comprehensive weekly update, delivered on the same day at about the same time and as a result investor-developer relations are almost always very strong and positive. https://safenetforum.org/t/maidsafe-dev-update-december-7-2017/18862/12

I think I asked this a while ago but did you guys keep any of the ICO funds raised in BTC?
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Apologies in advance i haven't read through the thread.

I was just wondering whether you obtain a licence to use player names, images etc?
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December 08, 2017, 01:12:45 PM
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Apologies in advance i haven't read through the thread.

I was just wondering whether you obtain a licence to use player names, images etc?

No worries. It's indeed a bit of a long thread.
Yes, we have the full licenses to the images, logos and statistics used in FootballCoin. If you want to know more about this and about our partners, please have a look over www.footballcoin.io. Thanks!  Smiley

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December 08, 2017, 01:21:39 PM
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Everyone wishes the project was ready a while ago but XFC is far from the only project that has taken a while to develop and had delays.

Fair point. But probably most of the issues the dev team had to address, wasn't on their initial list of things to solve. And probably most decisions were made as they went. Seems like an agile strategy, that any start-up should have.

As for the delays, that some people on this forum have been complaining about, was mostly because the single most important decision the team has made, was to develop their own blockchain. Which btw seems like the best decision ever for this project, taking into account the recent events on the eth network with the cryptokitties project. I think that stands proof for the what a crypto game should look like and why they should have their own blockchain.

Other than that, I'm excited about Christmas!
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Apologies in advance i haven't read through the thread.

I was just wondering whether you obtain a licence to use player names, images etc?

No worries. It's indeed a bit of a long thread.
Yes, we have the full licenses to the images, logos and statistics used in FootballCoin. If you want to know more about this and about our partners, please have a look over www.footballcoin.io. Thanks!  Smiley

That's really interesting always thought this was a difficulty.

I'm really interested in this project is this something you benefited from your partnership with sportradar?
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Rules for Placating Investors

Rule 1: Do not replace defined deadlines with undefined deadlines. We went from November/December to 'cannot make a promise about a specific date', which could mean December, it could mean April, it could mean never.

Rule 2: Provide concrete answers to questions. "What exchanges will XFCCoin be on?" Dev Answer: "We applied to several major exchanges". This tells us nothing, how about "We applied to Bittrex on October 7, status: application pending, We applied to Cryptopia on October 27, status: application processing". Something concrete, something that tells us a) what exchanges it will be on, and b) the status. Otherwise it seems like you are telling us nothing, which you may well be, you may not be, we don't know, it's impossible to know.

Rule 3: Provide concrete actionable steps related to the in-game economy and how it relates to the current RAPID fluctuations and volatility with Bitcoin....

I, as an investor, join you. Patience and optimism are gone, after the promise in November to go on exchange. And I think WE ALL need to demand a final date. Any project has a deadline.

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December 08, 2017, 04:39:09 PM
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hi dev,
  cloud we have some update before friday ? a week is not long but may be enough to solve some problem .

Thanks for your involvement.
Clearly, recent developments show the great potential of a game like FootballCoin.
I cannot make a promise about a specific date. I can, however, promise that all problems are ironed out before the release. In this way we can avoid the problems that arose with other projects, for example, cryptokitties, that a user mentioned earlier.

Rules for Placating Investors

Rule 1: Do not replace defined deadlines with undefined deadlines. We went from November/December to 'cannot make a promise about a specific date', which could mean December, it could mean April, it could mean never.

Rule 2: Provide concrete answers to questions. "What exchanges will XFCCoin be on?" Dev Answer: "We applied to several major exchanges". This tells us nothing, how about "We applied to Bittrex on October 7, status: application pending, We applied to Cryptopia on October 27, status: application processing". Something concrete, something that tells us a) what exchanges it will be on, and b) the status. Otherwise it seems like you are telling us nothing, which you may well be, you may not be, we don't know, it's impossible to know.

Rule 3: Provide concrete actionable steps related to the in-game economy and how it relates to the current RAPID fluctuations and volatility with Bitcoin. A basic player card currently costs 200 dollars due to Bitcoin's value, which, when compared to more expensive cards currently makes this the most expensive game to play in the entire world. Do you intend to either a) alter amounts in the swap from the previous exchange rate under the ICO when you switch to the new blockchain, so a person who invested 2.66BTC for 250K coins would receive more while keeping player prices the same, or will the player prices go down, or, the best solution, will they fluctuate with the market and not be pinned to a specific retail price?

It is to your advantage, especially now that you have your own blockchain, to have XFCCoin on major exchanges in order to get a solid combination of investors to make XFC worth something, and therefore prizes for the actual game to be worth something, which, in turn, will attract fantasy sports enthusiasts as well as gamblers, as well as to attract new players. People will not learn about this game through your own website alone nor will they learn about it through your own individual exchange, as it will be a needle in a haystack of cryptocurrency exchanges. My fear is that once you have your own exchange, your priorities will shift to be less concerned about getting it listed on popular crypto exchanges, and this is a huge mistake, not only for your investors, but for yourselves. But I wouldn't know, because we aren't told anything concrete. Normal ICOs have their coin on an exchange within ONE MONTH of the end of an ICO, you read that correctly, ONE MONTH.

Rule 4: Provide updates about the status of ongoing initiatives, status of the blockchain, where the wallet is, WITHOUT people having to kick, scream, yell, threaten, or explode in a ball of rage in order to get a response. We have waited a VERY long time (in the crypto world) for this project to come to fruition, and these updates, at this point, are not even a measure of good will, they are required given how long this whole process has been drawn out. People believe in this project, if everything was on track, you wouldn't have to give them a reason to keep believing, but given the endless delays, you owe your investors that, at the very least.

Rule 5: I know this will be a tough nut to swallow, but if you are unable to consistently meet deadlines after a number of failures, you should be offering to repurchase XFC from original investors at the price it was issued. Inability to meet deadlines, inability to provide clear guidance, inability to provide a solid, realistic roadmap and meet objectives on time, reliably, and advertise thus forfeits your ability to continue to make empty promises and action and goodwill should be regained through Rule 5. Would it suck for the project? Absolutely, but there is a pretty clear line between being in a realistic development cycle, especially when compared to other projects, and borderline scam-like behavior, which we are beginning to get to due to violations of Rules 1, 2, 3, and 4. There needs to be consequences, or you will just go on indefinitely telling us a whole lot of nothing.

You can choose to ignore this, you can choose to respond and begin to address these. But after seeing definable deadlines suddenly, inexplicably replaced by "we can't give you a defined date", you can't even give a date range at this point, means you are probably just profiting off of the rise of BTC yourselves, while egging on people that once believed in your project but are now growing sour after an exorbitant wait time with milestones shrouded in mystery until threats are made, and the only thing offered is some vague empty promises and/or a screenshot of something.


Thank you for your feedback. I can tell you have taken the time to provide a detailed answer. Thank you for that. Rules, of course, as you well know, are not usually enforced on groups you do not have authority over.  Wink

Regarding your concerns, you will find the information that will answer those in our previous replies.
We are sorry the exchange and blockchain were not released quicker, naturally. We appreciate your patience. The time will, however, have been well spent in ensuring the system is properly working.
Once again, thank you for your reply and feedback and please do not think in any way I am condescending in my reply. I believe we have a similar goal and discussions will help improve the vision and execution of it.

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December 08, 2017, 05:13:48 PM
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wow I just popped into this topic to read about a project that replicates football manager by ea (but with blockchain) but it seems that the project desappointed its' investors a lot... Huh Sad but sports-connected icos (tokenstars also) just don't work
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December 08, 2017, 05:40:17 PM
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wow I just popped into this topic to read about a project that replicates football manager by ea (but with blockchain) but it seems that the project desappointed its' investors a lot... Huh Sad but sports-connected icos (tokenstars also) just don't work

I think it works well as a football manager game using cryptocurrency and blockchain technology.
As for any of the criticism, if you'll take a look, you'll see it's all due to some users' desire to get the exchange out there faster so that they can cash in their XFCCOIN. Which is their right. But many other users are looking towards the benefit of the investment.
If you'll take a look at the web site and the technology behind the game, you'll see it runs very well.

Are you a long time FM player, btw?  Grin Grin Grin
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