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April 01, 2017, 02:02:43 PM
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In last few days BTU is loosing its steam, the hashrate is going down. On the other hand segwit is gaining momentum.
Is forking good or bad for BTC.
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April 01, 2017, 02:11:09 PM
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bitcoin unlimed has been around for 2 years. no deadlines no threats no obligatory forced mandatory activation, no PoW nukes..

just an open option for people to choose.
oh and there are a dozen implementations. give it a month or so and blockstream will find another diverse decentralised group to REKT

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"BITCOIN WILL NOT WANT AND WILL NOT HARD FORD
Not all minerals in China support Bitcoin Unlimited. F2Pool, the world's second largest Bitcoin miner after AntPool, declined Bitcoin Unlimited earlier this week.
Wang Chun, owner of F2Pool, shared a rather abstract statement with the Bitcoin community on March 27: "Bitcoin can not Fork and will not Fork."
Instinctively, on March 22, Chun wrote, "Rest in Peace Bitcoin Unlimited," after the second bug in the software was exploited.
SegWit is a fork
However, some members of the community began to question the intentions of Bitcoin Core's Segregated Witness (SegWit) statements. SegWit is a scalable solution for the market, also a fork of the Bitcoin network.
Unlike Bitcoin Unlimited, SegWit is a SoftFork that requires 95% of the node operators to activate.
Chun gives another unclear explanation of Chun's previous statement: "Why not choose a party? Because you have to think twice before deciding to support someone, see you as the enemy."
I have read this information, HF will not happen, Segwit is not accepted and BU is dead, bitcoin will remain the original bitcoin, everything is the same, this is great.

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April 01, 2017, 02:30:07 PM
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In my understanding, there is a need for fork because there are problems existing or foreseen that can bring back Bitcoin to the past and will not help Bitcoin leapfrog into the future. However, if there is really no need to fork...so maybe there is no need to? Why reinvent the wheel?

Anyway, I am just a newbie here and my opinion may not count that much as I am admittedly not a technically-inclined person and there are a million or two in Bitcoin and cryptocurrency that I do not really understand even if explained in plain language lol.

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April 01, 2017, 02:36:50 PM
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I have read this information, HF will not happen, Segwit is not accepted and BU is dead, bitcoin will remain the original bitcoin, everything is the same, this is great.

about that last line. why is not forking a good thing. The network is getting congested and some transactions are taking days to get confirmed. the txfee skyrocketing. Sure one day it will surpass paypal fee. If this is whst happens in 2017 how will it cope till 2140 the end of mining.
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April 01, 2017, 02:53:53 PM
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I have read this information, HF will not happen, Segwit is not accepted and BU is dead, bitcoin will remain the original bitcoin, everything is the same, this is great.

about that last line. why is not forking a good thing. The network is getting congested and some transactions are taking days to get confirmed. the txfee skyrocketing. Sure one day it will surpass paypal fee. If this is whst happens in 2017 how will it cope till 2140 the end of mining.


it will fork but not for the reasons the fake hype is about.

blockstream(core) dont want more native capacity growth. but they will split the chain and cause miner killing fork to get segwit. checkout all the rejecting blocks of bip9. the rejecting blocks and nodes of UASF. and also the total wipeout rejecting of all pools with a PoW change.

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April 02, 2017, 03:07:07 AM
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shit now the BU hashrate is more then 50%. guess their tour in China is really working
what is they plan a 51% attack on BTU it would be disastrous. Hope no one on BTU team is such a fanatic
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April 02, 2017, 03:18:56 AM
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I think no fork will happen.
BTU is losing supporters due to the crashing of nodes with a buggy code and the recent news said they've lose F2pool to
So i guess bitcoin will stay as it is.






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April 02, 2017, 03:39:41 AM
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Over 50% now.... it could happen.

Learn the phrase BTU coin.
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April 02, 2017, 08:19:39 AM
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Bitcoin unlimed has been around for 2 years. no deadlines no threats no obligatory forced mandatory activation, no PoW nukes.BTU is loosing its steam, the hashrate is going down. On the other hand segwit is gaining momentum.
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The end users will be the victim of such fork if it ever happens. I hope Bitcoin doesn't decrease in value and doesn't split into two different coins. Why can't we agree all together to do what is best for bitcoin and not for small entities who want to take advantage of such split ?




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April 02, 2017, 12:57:07 PM
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This is the problem in the decentralized coin. Of course not everybody will have the same vision, and everytime the bitcoin grow there will be more factions. All we need is everybody to agree to one solution, otherwise, it's matter of time until the bitcoin blockchain will dvide (like ethereum)
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April 02, 2017, 12:58:22 PM
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bitcoin unlimed has been around for 2 years. no deadlines no threats no obligatory forced mandatory activation, no PoW nukes..

just an open option for people to choose.
oh and there are a dozen implementations. give it a month or so and blockstream will find another diverse decentralised group to REKT
"Obligatory forced mandatory activation" damn that's a lot of synonyms.

The PoW nuke is not going to happen, it's just an extreme scenario in which there was no viable solution.  BU would be issuing these threats and more if they weren't acting all nice because they're not the current development team.

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bitcoin unlimed has been around for 2 years. no deadlines no threats no obligatory forced mandatory activation, no PoW nukes..

just an open option for people to choose.
oh and there are a dozen implementations. give it a month or so and blockstream will find another diverse decentralised group to REKT
"Obligatory forced mandatory activation" damn that's a lot of synonyms.

The PoW nuke is not going to happen, it's just an extreme scenario in which there was no viable solution.  BU would be issuing these threats and more if they weren't acting all nice because they're not the current development team.

funny part is.
if BU did implement the 'anti-replay' feature core is demanding BU do... core would then start calling it an attack.
much like core demanded diverse nodes bilateral split ages ago, which the diverse nodes refused..
then core screams bilateral splits are bad
then core screamed bu have to bilateral split.
then core screamed if bu bilateral split it is a dictatorship
then core screamed that core all along had code to bilateral split and core would initiate a bilateral split if BU become popular...

hypocrisy is funny

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I read a piece of information, and they say HF will not happen and it does not need to happen, which proves BU has been dead. It's not so much people's choice, so an unpopular altcoin will not be able to work, and it will die. Bitcoin will remain the same, it is still bitcoin core. And I think that this information has made bitcoin rise, it has come back to a stable price.

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April 02, 2017, 01:10:42 PM
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I read a piece of information, and they say HF will not happen and it does not need to happen, which proves BU has been dead. It's not so much people's choice, so an unpopular altcoin will not be able to work, and it will die. Bitcoin will remain the same, it is still bitcoin core. And I think that this information has made bitcoin rise, it has come back to a stable price.
For a hero member, you're pretty gullible.  That's blatantly opinion, and while I agree with that, it's not "information" like a fact is.

BU is far from dead though, its hashrate is still higher than SegWit (not higher than Core though).

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April 02, 2017, 01:55:01 PM
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The % of block found by BU once past 51% in these two days... Maybe just April Fools? we shall see how this move forward. However, I guess we sure need to make a decision soon.

By the way, why is that Litecoin is activating Segwit at 75% but bitcoin at 95%?
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April 02, 2017, 02:05:49 PM
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By the way, why is that Litecoin is activating Segwit at 75% but bitcoin at 95%?

Rules are set that way since Segregated Witness for LTC requires only 75% of the network hashrate to be activated.

http://litecoinblockhalf.com/segwit.php


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mobnepal
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April 02, 2017, 02:09:19 PM
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Is forking good or bad for BTC.
I need the views of the general community
Hard fork can be good for chain that will gain majority of support while the one that will loss support will struggle to survive.

It has been discussed several time and i don't think we need another thread to just discuss about it. People have their different views about forking but for me bitcoin doesn't need any forking right now.

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April 02, 2017, 02:19:33 PM
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I've had enough of a blood drunk Roger Ver slaughtering hes own offspring, and I'm out of popcorn too.

The developers should just apply SegWit like they normally would and move on.

Let Jihan have hes fork. Be it an involuntary one.
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