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April 05, 2017, 07:57:13 PM
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Pff it is coming soon.Now I see more and more faster black days for Europe I have less and less optimism because of situaction in my country.
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April 05, 2017, 08:07:05 PM
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And have you ever seen a European Empire? If you don't count Russia, but it's closer to Asia. Immigrant crisis destroys the unity of Europe, but it is not an Empire. I hope Merkel is smart enough to block access to these wild people.
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April 06, 2017, 03:42:05 AM
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Europeans need to rise up if they want to preserve their way of life, their culture, their identity. Unfortunately it seem decades of peace and stability has driven the instinct of self-preservation out of them. Like aggression has been bred out of them.

Why do you think that Muslims use only peaceful migration. They will not give up on terrorism. The strategy of peaceful migration, the Chinese are using. It seems to me that this strategy is more effective. In fact, the Chinese are a major threat, but no one sees and therefore, do not worry.

The Chinese are not a threat, and therefore no one is bothered about them. I agree that a lot of these Chinese people are migrating to the Western nations, but they are assimilating well in to the native population.

A bit more insidious, yes. Fear only make people resist you. Why be hated when you can be influential and yet live peacefully in the adoptive country? That has been the Chinese way for a long time, after all many just want a comfortable life rather than convert people to an ideology/religion.

Here in the Philippines the elites are descended either from large landholders during the Spanish era or from the Chinese that migrated in multiple waves. Unlike Malaysia we didn't adopt a Malay First policy so they're doing well here.

The challenge for them here is that those that flaunt they being Chinese are seen with some suspicion. Those that act like these tend to be more recent migrants, many of those that were here during the Hispanic period has assimilated quite well that they pretty much defined what being "Filipino" is. Still, there is still anti-Chinese sentiments here (fueled by territorial disputes). Some fear that in case of war, they would side with China.

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Yes... it is difficult to believe that advanced civilizations can degrade to stone-age, like what has happened with Afghanistan. Afghanistan of the 1960s and 1970s seems like a mirage now.

Sadly yes, like some brief dream that you felt would be never-ending. Proof that "progress" is a fragile thing.
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April 06, 2017, 08:06:20 AM
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The Chinese are not a threat, and therefore no one is bothered about them. I agree that a lot of these Chinese people are migrating to the Western nations, but they are assimilating well in to the native population.

A bit more insidious, yes. Fear only make people resist you. Why be hated when you can be influential and yet live peacefully in the adoptive country? That has been the Chinese way for a long time, after all many just want a comfortable life rather than convert people to an ideology/religion.

Here in the Philippines the elites are descended either from large landholders during the Spanish era or from the Chinese that migrated in multiple waves. Unlike Malaysia we didn't adopt a Malay First policy so they're doing well here.

The challenge for them here is that those that flaunt they being Chinese are seen with some suspicion. Those that act like these tend to be more recent migrants, many of those that were here during the Hispanic period has assimilated quite well that they pretty much defined what being "Filipino" is. Still, there is still anti-Chinese sentiments here (fueled by territorial disputes). Some fear that in case of war, they would side with China.

The Chinese are very hardworking, and they contribute a lot to the economy of their host nations. Look at the south-east Asian nations such as Singapore and Malaysia. Without the Chinese, these nations would be just some third world pothole.

 
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April 06, 2017, 09:08:05 AM
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The Chinese are not a threat, and therefore no one is bothered about them. I agree that a lot of these Chinese people are migrating to the Western nations, but they are assimilating well in to the native population.

A bit more insidious, yes. Fear only make people resist you. Why be hated when you can be influential and yet live peacefully in the adoptive country? That has been the Chinese way for a long time, after all many just want a comfortable life rather than convert people to an ideology/religion.

Here in the Philippines the elites are descended either from large landholders during the Spanish era or from the Chinese that migrated in multiple waves. Unlike Malaysia we didn't adopt a Malay First policy so they're doing well here.

The challenge for them here is that those that flaunt they being Chinese are seen with some suspicion. Those that act like these tend to be more recent migrants, many of those that were here during the Hispanic period has assimilated quite well that they pretty much defined what being "Filipino" is. Still, there is still anti-Chinese sentiments here (fueled by territorial disputes). Some fear that in case of war, they would side with China.

The Chinese are very hardworking, and they contribute a lot to the economy of their host nations. Look at the south-east Asian nations such as Singapore and Malaysia. Without the Chinese, these nations would be just some third world pothole.
I think the Chinese are the same as everyone else. Just due to the fact that they do not have a developed system of social protection of the population as in Europe, they are forced to work to survive.
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April 06, 2017, 10:03:42 AM
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I think the last great War to be fought before the end of the world will be against Islam and Islamic extremism, they always want to force their beliefs on everyone else and lots of country wont bulge, in my opinion. Western Civilization wont fall.
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April 06, 2017, 10:14:11 AM
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I think the last great War to be fought before the end of the world will be against Islam and Islamic extremism, they always want to force their beliefs on everyone else and lots of country wont bulge, in my opinion. Western Civilization wont fall.
Of course, Western civilization will not fall! Now the world is going to abandon oil. Many Muslim countries are living only by the sale of oil and for them it is a problem. I think that on this basis there will be war.
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April 06, 2017, 09:20:28 PM
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I think the last great War to be fought before the end of the world will be against Islam and Islamic extremism, they always want to force their beliefs on everyone else and lots of country wont bulge, in my opinion. Western Civilization wont fall.
Of course, Western civilization will not fall! Now the world is going to abandon oil. Many Muslim countries are living only by the sale of oil and for them it is a problem. I think that on this basis there will be war.

I bet when we have other alternatives for Oil then they will not have money to fund wars and other terrorist acts that they have been sponsoring.
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April 06, 2017, 09:29:13 PM
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I think the last great War to be fought before the end of the world will be against Islam and Islamic extremism, they always want to force their beliefs on everyone else and lots of country wont bulge, in my opinion. Western Civilization wont fall.
Of course, Western civilization will not fall! Now the world is going to abandon oil. Many Muslim countries are living only by the sale of oil and for them it is a problem. I think that on this basis there will be war.

I bet when we have other alternatives for Oil then they will not have money to fund wars and other terrorist acts that they have been sponsoring.
Do not argue or lose. They will long be able to Finance the attacks. Besides, oil is not only used as a source of energy. Almost the entire chemical industry uses oil and gas. But revenues from oil and gas will be reduced significantly.
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April 07, 2017, 03:35:23 AM
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If birth rates won't increase rapidly, Western civilization doomed to disappear. It is simply mathematics - fertility rate below replacement level (2.1 children per woman) guaranteed leads to extinction.
And never count on immigration! In Europe you can see how immigrants want to integrate into society and work!  Grin
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April 07, 2017, 03:42:10 AM
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I think the last great War to be fought before the end of the world will be against Islam and Islamic extremism, they always want to force their beliefs on everyone else and lots of country wont bulge, in my opinion. Western Civilization wont fall.
Of course, Western civilization will not fall! Now the world is going to abandon oil. Many Muslim countries are living only by the sale of oil and for them it is a problem. I think that on this basis there will be war.

But then, the Islamic nations have benefited enormously from the petro-dollar flows, during the last 50 years or so. They are sitting on top of enormous cash piles called sovereign wealth funds (SWFs), which are worth about $3 trillion right now.

 
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April 07, 2017, 07:49:30 AM
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The Chinese are not a threat, and therefore no one is bothered about them. I agree that a lot of these Chinese people are migrating to the Western nations, but they are assimilating well in to the native population.

A bit more insidious, yes. Fear only make people resist you. Why be hated when you can be influential and yet live peacefully in the adoptive country? That has been the Chinese way for a long time, after all many just want a comfortable life rather than convert people to an ideology/religion.

Here in the Philippines the elites are descended either from large landholders during the Spanish era or from the Chinese that migrated in multiple waves. Unlike Malaysia we didn't adopt a Malay First policy so they're doing well here.

The challenge for them here is that those that flaunt they being Chinese are seen with some suspicion. Those that act like these tend to be more recent migrants, many of those that were here during the Hispanic period has assimilated quite well that they pretty much defined what being "Filipino" is. Still, there is still anti-Chinese sentiments here (fueled by territorial disputes). Some fear that in case of war, they would side with China.

The Chinese are very hardworking, and they contribute a lot to the economy of their host nations. Look at the south-east Asian nations such as Singapore and Malaysia. Without the Chinese, these nations would be just some third world pothole.


I believe I read a book before about the Jews and the Chinese as "essential outsiders". Though they do contribute their part to their respective adoptive societies, I don't really see why the natives couldn't eventually learn stuff on their own. IMHO it's really all about idea flow. Ideas/technology eventually make their way across civs, even when said civ try to isolate themselves. I guess what the benefits from the Jews and Chinese really was was that they have a large diaspora. Innovations from one place can more quickly reach another because of their network.
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April 07, 2017, 08:20:25 AM
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The only thing that will save us from all the problems I see in this thread is technology. Free market capitalism is what has consistently allowed technology to blossom, and so long as we can keep it relatively unhindered, we will see a new golden era.
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April 07, 2017, 09:01:14 AM
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The big cities and their suburbs will get subdued by pushy beardmen, this process has been going on since first beard crawled out of the sandbox.

Rural areas though will remain free from the infestation politicians love to call progress since local cohesion is too strong and guerillawarfare is iminent when invading these lands.

Good places to be in Europe are the French Pyrenees in and the Black Forest in Germany.


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