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April 04, 2017, 06:09:53 PM
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The wallet receiving these transactions is https://blockchain.info/address/1HsEpgYU4U8GJna6SeQjAyjydZQJnohMjP
I'm not sure why they haven't gone through yet and could use some help, thanks in advance.

I was also looking here: https://bitcoinfees.21.co/
and noticed that the fee the sender used was in the slowest "channel"

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April 04, 2017, 06:15:36 PM
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use this and the right column : https://tradeblock.com/bitcoin/

actual minimal = 0,0004 BTC
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April 04, 2017, 06:25:06 PM
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I just noticed that, you're entirely right. What will happen with these? Will they ever confirm?

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April 04, 2017, 06:26:10 PM
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I just noticed that, you're entirely right. What will happen with these? Will they ever confirm?

I just pushed both transactions for you should confirm within a few hours.

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April 04, 2017, 06:27:45 PM
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I had a transaction that didn't confirm for days a few weeks ago. I used a website that bumped up my transaction by applying a higher fee. I'll try to dig out the link.

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April 04, 2017, 06:28:43 PM
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your transaction is not in the mempool : http://btc.blockr.io/address/info/1HsEpgYU4U8GJna6SeQjAyjydZQJnohMjP
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April 04, 2017, 06:33:34 PM
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Sorry what does that mean that it's not in the mempool?

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April 04, 2017, 06:47:53 PM
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Sorry what does that mean that it's not in the mempool?

A transaction goes into the mempool as an unconfirmed transaction, and then when a miner includes the transaction in a block, it is moved from the mempool to the blockchain as a confirmed transaction.

The address link you provided shows 2 unconfirmed transactions at 120 sats/B. So these are in the mempool, but could take upto 7 hours to confirm according to the bitcoinfees website estimate.

If your transaction is not showing as an unconfirmed transaction, then we would need a transaction ID to look at. Different network nodes have different mempool settings, so it may show on some sites but not others.

Scaling and transaction rate: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=532.msg6306#msg6306
Do not allow demand to exceed capacity. Do not allow mempools to forget transactions. Relay all transactions. Eventually confirm all transactions.
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April 04, 2017, 06:56:10 PM
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My only concern is that this would NEVER confirm and that the sender had scammed me. If there's no chance of that happening then this thread can be closed.

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April 04, 2017, 07:06:07 PM
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My only concern is that this would NEVER confirm and that the sender had scammed me. If there's no chance of that happening then this thread can be closed.

I can't say that there is no chance it will never confirm. If demand for blockchain space suddenly increases, newer transactions with higher fees will push your transaction down the queue. After three days, mempools on the default settings will start dropping the transaction. Then your sender could try and double spend it elsewhere. Likewise, if the mempool exceeds the configured size of a node, it will start dropping it from the mempool. Things don't look that bad at the moment, so it probably will confirm within 24 hours.

Scaling and transaction rate: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=532.msg6306#msg6306
Do not allow demand to exceed capacity. Do not allow mempools to forget transactions. Relay all transactions. Eventually confirm all transactions.
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April 04, 2017, 07:09:17 PM
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If you look at both those transactions both of them have unconfirmed inputs. This means whoever sent the bitcoin used a wallet like blockchain.info which lets you spend unconfirmed inputs. It might take a few days for everything to get sorted as the earlier transactions have to confirm first before the later ones can. You can also use the ViaBTC transaction accelerator tool (Google it) to get the earlier transactions confirmed before they are dropped. Everyone needs to move away from that crappy blockchain.info wallet and others that let you spend unconfirmed inputs.

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April 04, 2017, 07:34:36 PM
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This seems like a fairly large flaw in the system. I really don't know where to go from here. I really have my fingers crossed that this will be resolved.

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April 04, 2017, 07:38:22 PM
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Does not look like the transactions do have unconfirmed inputs to me, so either I'm looking at the wrong ones or getting confused.
Unconfirmed transactions in the mempool have climbed again (41,000+, 81+MB), so these transaction may take some time to confirm.

Scaling and transaction rate: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=532.msg6306#msg6306
Do not allow demand to exceed capacity. Do not allow mempools to forget transactions. Relay all transactions. Eventually confirm all transactions.
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April 04, 2017, 07:40:54 PM
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He didn't paste tx but his public BTC address, I believe that this is his unconfirmed transaction

http://block.okcoin.cn/tx/21869ca0ea465c77b06768f0414edf94585d69fdde9a25be6dd58cb4820f7a5c

My only concern is that this would NEVER confirm and that the sender had scammed me.

use this accelelator to speed up your transaction https://www.viabtc.com/tools/txaccelerator/
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April 04, 2017, 07:47:23 PM
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the problem with the blockchain.info (blockexplorer job) is that it indicate somes transactions that they don't ever exist (privat mempool).

the mempool is GLOBAL, it's like a octopus.
all transactions accept by the rules is display in all mempool after 3 seconds.

if you emit a transaction, she is on all BLOCK explorer with a mempool (and a sheet indicate "unconfirmed transaction").

the address provided don't contain MEMPOOL unconfirmed transaction attached.
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April 04, 2017, 07:51:35 PM
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transaction shows here as unconfirmed:

https://blockchain.info/tx/21869ca0ea465c77b06768f0414edf94585d69fdde9a25be6dd58cb4820f7a5c

How do I check if it has an unconfirmed input?

Scaling and transaction rate: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=532.msg6306#msg6306
Do not allow demand to exceed capacity. Do not allow mempools to forget transactions. Relay all transactions. Eventually confirm all transactions.
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April 04, 2017, 07:51:58 PM
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https://blockchain.info/address/1HsEpgYU4U8GJna6SeQjAyjydZQJnohMjP
THIS IS MY PERSONAL WALLET. The 2 transactions I'm curious about are the last 2 on my wallet.
#1 https://blockchain.info/tx/21869ca0ea465c77b06768f0414edf94585d69fdde9a25be6dd58cb4820f7a5c
and #2 https://blockchain.info/tx/87becfffd4e1e6b93f84ea4fd9dac990399b3d17d9448061fa7e05724b277d47

It's not just one, they are both from the same person.

When looking at the links, I assume the wallets that are showing output next to them are the 2 smallest wallets owned by his blockchain that could be used to make the total of .26 for one transaction and .09 for another. I assume the leftover BTC is going back to the senders other wallets?

When I use the accelerator I get error "Submissions are beyond limit. Please try later." and I'm copying exactly as 87becfffd4e1e6b93f84ea4fd9dac990399b3d17d9448061fa7e05724b277d47 and 21869ca0ea465c77b06768f0414edf94585d69fdde9a25be6dd58cb4820f7a5c

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April 04, 2017, 07:53:06 PM
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The wallet receiving these transactions is https://blockchain.info/address/1HsEpgYU4U8GJna6SeQjAyjydZQJnohMjP
I'm not sure why they haven't gone through yet and could use some help, thanks in advance.

I was also looking here: https://bitcoinfees.21.co/
and noticed that the fee the sender used was in the slowest "channel"
usually when your transaction is too long use viabtc Transaction Accelerator https://www.viabtc.com/tools/txaccelerator/

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April 04, 2017, 07:59:53 PM
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When I use the accelerator I get error "Submissions are beyond limit. Please try later." and I'm copying exactly as 87becfffd4e1e6b93f84ea4fd9dac990399b3d17d9448061fa7e05724b277d47 and 21869ca0ea465c77b06768f0414edf94585d69fdde9a25be6dd58cb4820f7a5c

If using the viabtc accelerator, there are only so many open slots per block they find, and they fill up pretty quick. Keep trying as soon as they find a block!

Scaling and transaction rate: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=532.msg6306#msg6306
Do not allow demand to exceed capacity. Do not allow mempools to forget transactions. Relay all transactions. Eventually confirm all transactions.
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April 04, 2017, 08:01:21 PM
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transaction shows here as unconfirmed:

https://blockchain.info/tx/21869ca0ea465c77b06768f0414edf94585d69fdde9a25be6dd58cb4820f7a5c

How do I check if it has an unconfirmed input?


Paste the TX on this site : http://btc.blockr.io/

No entry = no mempool = PRIVAT (blockchain.info) mempool and may be never emit on official Bitcoin network.
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