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April 07, 2017, 02:35:47 AM
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I am against the legalization of drugs. The addict should be forced treatment, and drug dealers should be in prison. And don't just sit and work and to Finance the rehabilitation of drug addicts. If re-caught for drug trafficking and possible death penalty.
I see some misconceptions here.

Do you think that legally available drugs will cause more addiction? Wrong! On the contrary. It should decrease drug consumption.
Because it will eliminate both bad mixed drugs created specially to induce addiction and erase the forbidden fruit effect.
With legal drugs there won't be any drug dealers around because being a dealer won't be a lucrative job anymore! War with crime will be won!
We could argue that severe alcohol addiction can ruin a life in the same way as drugs can, yet alcohol is perfectly legal.


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April 07, 2017, 03:36:00 AM
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The government should just accept the fact that the drugs can't be eliminated. As long as the demand exists, the people will find a way to secure them. The only viable option is to legalize and regulate them.
Making it legalize and regulate them would really cause to much more trouble on this world and its not really right to exclude it and I would rather choose to stick on prohibiting it rather than on legalizing it because i cant imagine a society on which drugs are legal.

It is not possible to ban them with 100% efficiency. Even in countries such as Singapore and Saudi Arabia, where drug usage carries capital sentence, the drugs are easily available. So the best option, IMO is to legalize them.

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April 08, 2017, 08:02:45 PM
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The government should just accept the fact that the drugs can't be eliminated. As long as the demand exists, the people will find a way to secure them. The only viable option is to legalize and regulate them.
I am against the legalization of drugs. More than that I don't agree with you that it is impossible to defeat drugs. In order to buy drugs addicts should know where you can buy them. Once they know that might know and the police. The power just didn't really want to deal with this problem.
What  Huh

Legalization of drugs should happen and will eventually happen. Do you think an addict should be imprisoned if they find the source of his addiction in his possession? Why don't they arrest drunkards then for carrying a bottle of vodka? Addiction is a sickness and addicts should be offered help not punished. Also, if someone wants to waste himself in his home it's his choice and he should have the right to do so.
I'm not only against hard drugs but I am against even the soft drugs such as marijuana. Why would a person do a dependent? All my life I regret that started to smoke and now can't leave. And you want to legalize drugs. Bullshit!
Don't you think that it's a private matter if he wants to be dependent on something or not? What if someone watched your every step and told you that you can't eat sugar, drink beer, stay awake all night, because all these things are bad for you? These are our lives and our choices and as long as we aren't harming anyone we should be allowed to do what we like.
As for smoking, you might regret it but some other people may find it a part of their lives.

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April 09, 2017, 11:43:57 AM
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Legalise some drugs for sale BUT never lock anyone up for taking any drug ..

Portugal legalised taking drugs.. No jail.
Crime gone down people taking drugs gone down..WHY..Think about it..?

No drug pushers ..
Just think if a shop sells it no street dealers to be pushing it on the street YOUTH .

GO ON   GO ON   GO ON   have these drugs says the big kid to the small kid Wink..
PUSHERS ..Shops no more pushers..

Free choice to take drugs NOT FORCED CHOICE..

How forced choice?..

You are young and to fit in you are pushed to take or smoke these drugs to fit in..


The young get to know more about drugs if legal..
Not every drinks or smokes  Wink..Smoking most young don't smoke anymore..LEGAL Wink


It seems us humans if we are told not to do something we do it more Smiley
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Maybe it's the desire humans have to always want to be free

Complete legalisation of drugs is actually an amazing idea. I see it as a natural selection. Those who are stupid enough to do drugs and kill themselves will leave us who don't, therefore more junkies= less junkies. Cheesy
You forget that among drug users, a very large number of criminals. To meet the ever growing amount of drugs they need they go on the offense. You don't think about the fact that they themselves can become a victim of drug addict, and your children can become addicts? I'm against it. Any talk about legalization of drugs needs to be stopped.
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April 09, 2017, 12:58:35 PM
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Legalise some drugs for sale BUT never lock anyone up for taking any drug ..

Portugal legalised taking drugs.. No jail.
Crime gone down people taking drugs gone down..WHY..Think about it..?

No drug pushers ..
Just think if a shop sells it no street dealers to be pushing it on the street YOUTH .

GO ON   GO ON   GO ON   have these drugs says the big kid to the small kid Wink..
PUSHERS ..Shops no more pushers..

Free choice to take drugs NOT FORCED CHOICE..

How forced choice?..

You are young and to fit in you are pushed to take or smoke these drugs to fit in..


The young get to know more about drugs if legal..
Not every drinks or smokes  Wink..Smoking most young don't smoke anymore..LEGAL Wink


It seems us humans if we are told not to do something we do it more Smiley
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Maybe it's the desire humans have to always want to be free

Complete legalisation of drugs is actually an amazing idea. I see it as a natural selection. Those who are stupid enough to do drugs and kill themselves will leave us who don't, therefore more junkies= less junkies. Cheesy
You forget that among drug users, a very large number of criminals. To meet the ever growing amount of drugs they need they go on the offense. You don't think about the fact that they themselves can become a victim of drug addict, and your children can become addicts? I'm against it. Any talk about legalization of drugs needs to be stopped.

If your children were having it (using once, left behind by someone, all scenarios were they could be arrested), how long should they be jailed? Or maybe executing them is the best solution? I am curious to know your opinions if it concerned your own chilld, and please all parents do their best to protect their children from most addictive behaviors and independandly of all efforts all drug users were kids once.

One example, in iran if your parents are parts of the ruling gang, no problem. Or if jeff sessions has relative, i bet you they get nothing and the eventual press or media is forced to censor.


The government should just accept the fact that the drugs can't be eliminated. As long as the demand exists, the people will find a way to secure them. The only viable option is to legalize and regulate them.
I am against the legalization of drugs. More than that I don't agree with you that it is impossible to defeat drugs. In order to buy drugs addicts should know where you can buy them. Once they know that might know and the police. The power just didn't really want to deal with this problem.
What  Huh

Legalization of drugs should happen and will eventually happen. Do you think an addict should be imprisoned if they find the source of his addiction in his possession? Why don't they arrest drunkards then for carrying a bottle of vodka? Addiction is a sickness and addicts should be offered help not punished. Also, if someone wants to waste himself in his home it's his choice and he should have the right to do so.
I'm not only against hard drugs but I am against even the soft drugs such as marijuana. Why would a person do a dependent? All my life I regret that started to smoke and now can't leave. And you want to legalize drugs. Bullshit!
Don't you think that it's a private matter if he wants to be dependent on something or not? What if someone watched your every step and told you that you can't eat sugar, drink beer, stay awake all night, because all these things are bad for you? These are our lives and our choices and as long as we aren't harming anyone we should be allowed to do what we like.
As for smoking, you might regret it but some other people may find it a part of their lives.

Thank you for this post. Fundamentally it's a liberty, freedom and ownership issue. As you said next sugar (btw very addictive) salt or grease. Who does your body belongs to? In some country alcohol is illegal... another sad problem is certain type of health drug that are allowed in certain country (state) and illegal in other.

Most forget that liverty start where it doesnt reduce the one of others... personnally it's a total lack of condifence and fear that drive those prohibitionnists (for the honnest ones) the others are after power/money (jail, lawyer, courts industries) or have societal or demographic objectives (most us jails are filled with blacks for so called illegal natural substances).

But to get back to your post, sadly socialized healthcare may degenerate in this, forced to do sports, not eating more of than x amounts, backed by digital surveillance (wc analysis, obligations to get tested, etc).

 Another parallel can be made with abortion.

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April 09, 2017, 01:04:49 PM
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Legalise some drugs for sale BUT never lock anyone up for taking any drug ..

Portugal legalised taking drugs.. No jail.
Crime gone down people taking drugs gone down..WHY..Think about it..?

No drug pushers ..
Just think if a shop sells it no street dealers to be pushing it on the street YOUTH .

GO ON   GO ON   GO ON   have these drugs says the big kid to the small kid Wink..
PUSHERS ..Shops no more pushers..

Free choice to take drugs NOT FORCED CHOICE..

How forced choice?..

You are young and to fit in you are pushed to take or smoke these drugs to fit in..


The young get to know more about drugs if legal..
Not every drinks or smokes  Wink..Smoking most young don't smoke anymore..LEGAL Wink


It seems us humans if we are told not to do something we do it more Smiley
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Maybe it's the desire humans have to always want to be free

Complete legalisation of drugs is actually an amazing idea. I see it as a natural selection. Those who are stupid enough to do drugs and kill themselves will leave us who don't, therefore more junkies= less junkies. Cheesy
You forget that among drug users, a very large number of criminals. To meet the ever growing amount of drugs they need they go on the offense. You don't think about the fact that they themselves can become a victim of drug addict, and your children can become addicts? I'm against it. Any talk about legalization of drugs needs to be stopped.

Under a legalisation scheme, these guys would no longer be criminals. Hence the simply beauty of drug law reform. Drug law, however, is too profitable to let go for Big Prison.

Also, alcohol is one of the most damaging drugs that has been known to society (the contemporary opium epidemic will be the one to go down in history however, mark my words). Do you feel alcohol should be legal?

I agree that not all drugs should be legal, but we would do well to decriminalize, at least, some of the less addictive, mostly natural substances. If you can buy a quadruple expresso, you should be able to buy pot/fungi.

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I just read the article and it was not really interesting because fellow police officers the law maker or the law protectors just broke the law by selling drug A to people i mean they are the one's who protect and arrest drug sellers but they are the ones who sell it you can't really tell who's the criminal in this world of ours and still they got bail this is one freaky world we lived in >.<
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April 10, 2017, 03:53:37 AM
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I think the drug would not be destroyed because of its official deals with the right dose to be used for the need of his.

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April 10, 2017, 04:20:53 AM
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 Another parallel can be made with abortion.

The parallel might be that both drugs and abortion are problems created by well intentioned people.

If there had never been any law against or for abortion, the vast majority of people would still see it as a highly unusual act. And when a woman did have an abortion, others would not see it as a religious or political issue but as a girl who had some problems and the focus would be on understanding why she wanted to kill her child, then solving the problem.

If there had never been any drug laws then there would not be a massive number of synthetic pseudo opiates and complex molecules invented in drug labs. A person who has free access to a natural drug, e.g. marijuana, opium, mushrooms etc, does not choose synthetic versions for the simple reason that synthetic versions are not as pleasant. And drug crime would be limited to dui, no need for addicts to steal to support the cartels so minimal robbery. Potheads and opium addicts are much mellower than money addicts.
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April 10, 2017, 04:21:06 AM
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I think the drug would not be destroyed because of its official deals with the right dose to be used for the need of his.

I have heard of a few incidents in which the cops have seized drugs from paddlers and then refused to report the incident to the higher-ups. In some incidents, the cache was resold at cutback prices. In a few occasions, it was used by the officers themselves.

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April 10, 2017, 05:10:29 AM
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Legalise some drugs for sale BUT never lock anyone up for taking any drug ..

Portugal legalised taking drugs.. No jail.
Crime gone down people taking drugs gone down..WHY..Think about it..?

No drug pushers ..
Just think if a shop sells it no street dealers to be pushing it on the street YOUTH .

GO ON   GO ON   GO ON   have these drugs says the big kid to the small kid Wink..
PUSHERS ..Shops no more pushers..

Free choice to take drugs NOT FORCED CHOICE..

How forced choice?..

You are young and to fit in you are pushed to take or smoke these drugs to fit in..


The young get to know more about drugs if legal..
Not every drinks or smokes  Wink..Smoking most young don't smoke anymore..LEGAL Wink


It seems us humans if we are told not to do something we do it more Smiley
                                    ^
Maybe it's the desire humans have to always want to be free

Complete legalisation of drugs is actually an amazing idea. I see it as a natural selection. Those who are stupid enough to do drugs and kill themselves will leave us who don't, therefore more junkies= less junkies. Cheesy
You forget that among drug users, a very large number of criminals. To meet the ever growing amount of drugs they need they go on the offense. You don't think about the fact that they themselves can become a victim of drug addict, and your children can become addicts? I'm against it. Any talk about legalization of drugs needs to be stopped.

When people are intaking drugs their attitude, emotions and their way of thinking becomes abnormal thus they may also have the tendency to become criminals. Drug addiction is an expensive vice that needs huge amount of money so you can sustain your addiction and if you spend all your money in your pocket the tendency is that you will do some illegal things to satisfy your addiction. Once you get addicted it is hard to escape and since it is costly you will even do illicit activities just to have money to buy drugs.

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April 10, 2017, 06:36:08 AM
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Legalise some drugs for sale BUT never lock anyone up for taking any drug ..

Portugal legalised taking drugs.. No jail.
Crime gone down people taking drugs gone down..WHY..Think about it..?

No drug pushers ..
Just think if a shop sells it no street dealers to be pushing it on the street YOUTH .

GO ON   GO ON   GO ON   have these drugs says the big kid to the small kid Wink..
PUSHERS ..Shops no more pushers..

Free choice to take drugs NOT FORCED CHOICE..

How forced choice?..

You are young and to fit in you are pushed to take or smoke these drugs to fit in..


The young get to know more about drugs if legal..
Not every drinks or smokes  Wink..Smoking most young don't smoke anymore..LEGAL Wink


It seems us humans if we are told not to do something we do it more Smiley
                                    ^
Maybe it's the desire humans have to always want to be free

Complete legalisation of drugs is actually an amazing idea. I see it as a natural selection. Those who are stupid enough to do drugs and kill themselves will leave us who don't, therefore more junkies= less junkies. Cheesy
You forget that among drug users, a very large number of criminals. To meet the ever growing amount of drugs they need they go on the offense. You don't think about the fact that they themselves can become a victim of drug addict, and your children can become addicts? I'm against it. Any talk about legalization of drugs needs to be stopped.

When people are intaking drugs their attitude, emotions and their way of thinking becomes abnormal thus they may also have the tendency to become criminals. Drug addiction is an expensive vice that needs huge amount of money so you can sustain your addiction and if you spend all your money in your pocket the tendency is that you will do some illegal things to satisfy your addiction. Once you get addicted it is hard to escape and since it is costly you will even do illicit activities just to have money to buy drugs.
I would not suggest so fast, that the crooked police ( the ones who were caught with them ) is addicted to drugs.
They had them, thats true but it doesnt neccesarily means that they were addicts right?

Being a policeman is a really stressful job, no matter what, you see brutal and fucked up thing on everyday basis, and not every human can be mentaly resistant to see brutal crimes usually.
Going to work like this for 10 years can easily affect your mind and mentality, you need to agree that also you risk life doing your job- thats something very important indeed.


I assume that they were unsatisfied with their police salary and they were selling drugs to some people, and later got caught.
You will be amazed how often police sell drugs- the ones who have been seized before obviously, that is a great way for crooked pigs to get more money.
They dont pay for it, they just need to find some guy who has them and simply seize the drugs without writing any kind of a protocol.

Simple? Very simple.
But bear in mind that police are humans, and it is often that are not able to control themselves sometimes, and that is the reason of police brutality.

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April 10, 2017, 07:58:42 PM
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Being a policeman is a really stressful job, no matter what, you see brutal and fucked up thing on everyday basis

How many "brutal and fucked up things" happen on a daily basis in your city?

There are nearly a million police in USA... you think there are a million "brutal and fucked up things" that happen daily?

You want a dangerous and stressful job?  Try crab fishing in the Bearing sea...

Cops have it easy... they carry a gun... claim ultimate authority... literally get away with murder... harass people, and steal their money/drugs

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Drug have been banned in our country but i want to try weed. somebody says weeds efect is very goood


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April 10, 2017, 10:57:28 PM
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Drug have been banned in our country but i want to try weed. somebody says weeds efect is very goood
You are a clear example of why drugs should be banned. Why do you need to try them. You cannot find another way to relax? Believe me in our world a lot of good things. Drugs enslave the will of man. You need it?

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April 11, 2017, 06:06:46 AM
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Drug have been banned in our country but i want to try weed. somebody says weeds efect is very goood
You are a clear example of why drugs should be banned. Why do you need to try them. You cannot find another way to relax? Believe me in our world a lot of good things. Drugs enslave the will of man. You need it?

Drugs are prone to abuse, but many drugs have very powerful uses too.

Marijuana is a kiddie drug. A lot of people spend their teen years stoned.
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It is also a useful medicine for cancer patients and many others. The marijuana plant has a lot of value in diseases that are otherwise poorly treated by conventional medicine. Synthetic chemicals used to treat the maladies marijuana is useful for are full of bad side effects.

Opium is very addictive, but it is a powerful pain reliever and has a strong psychological use for its tendency to create dreams that overwhelm the mind without clouding it. Synthetic and heavily modified opiates are a very poor substitute for opium, and if opium were legal the multi billion dollar commercial opiate industry would disappear overnight, along with all the crime it causes.

Peyote has a strong psychological effect that most rare users say is beneficial, just as acid users claim that lsd opens their mind to understanding things, but peyote has traditions that give it something more useful than lab made lsd.

A person should be able to try what they want, as long as they are aware of the risks and dangers. Creating a false world where plants that effect the mind are nonexistent is silly. Some people will go overboard, others will learn, the effects on society are favorable compared to prohibition.
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April 11, 2017, 06:28:23 AM
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Drug have been banned in our country but i want to try weed. somebody says weeds efect is very goood

Ideally, soft drugs such as weed should have been perfectly legal in any country. But the governments don't want to do that. IMO, weed is much more harmless than tobacco and alcohol. If tobacco can be legal, then why not weed?

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April 11, 2017, 05:21:06 PM
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Drug have been banned in our country but i want to try weed. somebody says weeds efect is very goood

Ideally, soft drugs such as weed should have been perfectly legal in any country. But the governments don't want to do that. IMO, weed is much more harmless than tobacco and alcohol. If tobacco can be legal, then why not weed?
Drugs don't have to be legal, but should not be penalized. This means that although they are illegal, if you're caught smoking a joint you can get a warning, be asked to throw it away, maybe get a ticket, just like you can get for pissing in a park or smoking in a non-smoking area. Making someone go to jail because of harmless smoking, or just posessing a drug that someone put in their pocket is ridiculous and does more harm than good.


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April 11, 2017, 05:43:00 PM
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Drug have been banned in our country but i want to try weed. somebody says weeds efect is very goood

Ideally, soft drugs such as weed should have been perfectly legal in any country. But the governments don't want to do that. IMO, weed is much more harmless than tobacco and alcohol. If tobacco can be legal, then why not weed?
Drugs don't have to be legal, but should not be penalized. This means that although they are illegal, if you're caught smoking a joint you can get a warning, be asked to throw it away, maybe get a ticket, just like you can get for pissing in a park or smoking in a non-smoking area. Making someone go to jail because of harmless smoking, or just posessing a drug that someone put in their pocket is ridiculous and does more harm than good.
It is very difficult to do So in order to save the innocent from punishment and prevent not only the use, but also the spread of drugs. Your idea is correct and noble, but how to do it, because in most cases the government itself has a personal relationship to drugs. Rather personally, officials and not the country.
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