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April 08, 2017, 04:02:03 PM
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The U.S. and its allies have "no smoking gun" proving Syrian forces uses chemical weapons.

No stores of Sarin at Shayrat found by experts.

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April 08, 2017, 04:30:04 PM
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The U.S. and its allies have "no smoking gun" proving Syrian forces uses chemical weapons.

No stores of Sarin at Shayrat found by experts.
How is it not? The whole world heard Putin talked about "little Green men" who have bought their weapons and uniforms in gun shops and came to seize the Crimea. Maybe in the same stores and bought Assad Zaman and Sarin? Everyone knows that Putin supports this dictator.
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April 08, 2017, 04:41:57 PM
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to seize the Crimea

https://youtu.be/aOlGqCOlNhc?t=2m44s (In Russian)

To create conditions for conducting the Referendum.
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The cheap attempt to flood this topic is evident.

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April 08, 2017, 05:49:04 PM
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fJc9UtagCh8

 Shayrat airbase

Syrian Army personnel inspected the Shayrat airbase in Homs which was struck by US missile earlier on Friday.



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April 08, 2017, 06:42:08 PM
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Why does russia deny an independent inspection if sarin was used?

What might be the reason...?

Cui bono?

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April 08, 2017, 07:01:07 PM
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Why does russia deny an independent inspection if sarin was used?

What might be the reason...?

Cui bono?
Because the Russian investigation is not necessary. They already know everything. Moreover, they even know where Assad's chemical weapons were taken. Russia tries srcit his involvement in this case.
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April 08, 2017, 07:33:47 PM
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Why does russia deny an independent inspection if sarin was used?

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2963349/Do-terrorist-cells-chemical-weapons-Expert-warns-ISIS-stash-sarin-mustard-gas-poses-threat-European-security.html

http://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/latest-news/507421/isis-daesh-islamic-chemical-attack-mustard-sarin-london-tokyo-brussels-tube-underground

About what inspection are You talking?

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April 08, 2017, 07:50:28 PM
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And this is the site that is sponsored directly from the Kremlin or via Russia today?
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April 08, 2017, 08:06:05 PM
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Im talking about Khan Shaykhun. Why are russia (and china) blocking all UN resolutions regarding the chemical attack in the UNSC?

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April 08, 2017, 08:29:30 PM
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Are You serious to send "independent" experts under Al Qaida/ISIS controlled zone??
The deaths were a result of gas released when a government airstrike hit a chemical weapons factory.

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an air strike hit a rebel depot full of chemical munitions
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http://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-39500947


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April 08, 2017, 09:05:40 PM
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who the hell knows what happened? was anyone here there to see it with their own eyes? i've no idea what to believe so i'm not gonna listen to what anyone says.
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April 08, 2017, 09:12:07 PM
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who the hell knows what happened?

Right.
And what is the reason to bomb this airfeld?

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April 08, 2017, 09:30:32 PM
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Are You serious to send "independent" experts under Al Qaida/ISIS controlled zone??
The deaths were a result of gas released when a government airstrike hit a chemical weapons factory.

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an air strike hit a rebel depot full of chemical munitions
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http://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-39500947



Vika how can you know it was a rebel used chemlab?

We know from 2013 to 2015 as fact that assads military used chemical agents in form of toxic gas against rebels and civilians. One of the reason that he accepted the UN resolution 2118 in 2013 to abolish all of syrias chemical weapons.

So how can you be sure that assad didnt do it?

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April 08, 2017, 09:35:23 PM
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So how can you be sure that assad didnt do it?

Show me the picture of "chemical bomb".
There are no such proofs.

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April 08, 2017, 09:43:13 PM
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who the hell knows what happened? was anyone here there to see it with their own eyes? i've no idea what to believe so i'm not gonna listen to what anyone says.
Unfortunately you still have to trust someone. You can't visit all countries in the world to check the veracity of the information in the news. Personally, I try to check the same news in different sources of information.

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April 08, 2017, 09:43:47 PM
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So how can you be sure that assad didnt do it?

Show me the picture of "chemical bomb".
There are no such proofs.


Vika. I was the one asking for evidence... russia and china are blocking the un resolution to inspect the case...
If you dont have anything to do with it why would you try to block an investigation?

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April 08, 2017, 09:53:50 PM
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So how can you be sure that assad didnt do it?

Show me the picture of "chemical bomb".
There are no such proofs.


Vika. I was the one asking for evidence... russia and china are blocking the un resolution to inspect the case...
If you dont have anything to do with it why would you try to block an investigation?
There is no answer. First the answer may not be logical, but I still will not believe. Russian always say cliches of Putin's propaganda. While on the TV will not tell you the version of the answer will be.

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April 08, 2017, 09:55:49 PM
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I was the one asking for evidence... russia and china are blocking the un resolution to inspect the case...


Explain about what "resolution" are You talking??
The ISIS activist have shipped to Turkey the materials from the place, and chemlab have detect the presence of Sarin.

But the origin of this Sarin is the ISIS deposit of chemical arms destroyed by government aircraft.
I have no idea, who collected this material.

This zone is under Al Qaida branch control.
How do You will inspect the zone???


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April 09, 2017, 12:38:15 AM
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I was the one asking for evidence... russia and china are blocking the un resolution to inspect the case...


Explain about what "resolution" are You talking??
The ISIS activist have shipped to Turkey the materials from the place, and chemlab have detect the presence of Sarin.

But the origin of this Sarin is the ISIS deposit of chemical arms destroyed by government aircraft.
I have no idea, who collected this material.

This zone is under Al Qaida branch control.
How do You will inspect the zone???



I get your point now.
Indeed that might be a problem which can only solved by boots on the ground.

Im not sure how strong IS is there.

But i still dont get why russia and china are blocking resolutions to force syria to tell which aircraft and pilot were flying under which operation and command...

I dont see any military reason to not cooperate in this case. Just tell the UN what happened and let them interview/question pilots etc.

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April 09, 2017, 12:52:57 AM
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And I do not understand why someone demands evidence. The UN can not do anything. You just need to assemble a coalition and to supply Assad an ultimatum, either he leaves the country to Russia or war.


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