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April 09, 2017, 02:32:49 PM
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President Donald Trump's order to fire about 60 cruise missiles at an air base in Syria on Thursday night drew concerns about its authorization as Trump did not seek prior consent from the Congress. Members of the Congress took to social media to raise questions over the attack.



Ibtimes: http://www.ibtimes.com/trump-bombs-syria-was-missile-attack-legal-launch-was-unauthorized-members-congress-2522266

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The attacks were ordered by Trump just to prop up his approval ratings. And they were meant to strike the enemy unexpectedly, and perhaps that was the reason why the approval was not sought from the Congress.

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April 09, 2017, 03:23:48 PM
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The attacks were ordered by Trump just to prop up his approval ratings. And they were meant to strike the enemy unexpectedly, and perhaps that was the reason why the approval was not sought from the Congress.

I think if we went back historically, we would find that the commander of a US military vessel did not need specific authorization from Congress to fire his guns 59 times. We could make a list of hundreds of such incidents.

That's a very different thing than a declaration of war.
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The attacks were ordered by Trump just to prop up his approval ratings. And they were meant to strike the enemy unexpectedly, and perhaps that was the reason why the approval was not sought from the Congress.

I think if we went back historically, we would find that the commander of a US military vessel did not need specific authorization from Congress to fire his guns 59 times. We could make a list of hundreds of such incidents.

That's a very different thing than a declaration of war.

@Sith I agree, but I don't think this had the desired effect. The more traditional of Trumps followers seemingly didn't like our little first into Syria. And, this would have been way more effective if we hadn't, you, know, told Russia about it (who would have been bound to tell Syria as an ally,). But, I understand this, given they weren't a target. That would have actually been an act of war.

@Spend agree also. This is an act of war, no doubt. But said act of war should not need a declaration of war. Shooting off a gang of missiles is the way you blow shit up, this is functioning as intended LOL.
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April 10, 2017, 03:29:35 AM
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President Donald Trump's order to fire about 60 cruise missiles at an air base in Syria on Thursday night drew concerns about its authorization as Trump did not seek prior consent from the Congress. Members of the Congress took to social media to raise questions over the attack.



Ibtimes: http://www.ibtimes.com/trump-bombs-syria-was-missile-attack-legal-launch-was-unauthorized-members-congress-2522266


Trump is not playing by the rules again -_-.. i don't really know what's the reason why they attack syria by missiles but many has died from the bombing.. they are children and infant but trump doesn't care about that he wants to be the superior in this world of ours but i don't blame him no one can because if you do you'll get scold in social media by trump he only knows that really -_-
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April 10, 2017, 05:00:36 AM
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President Donald Trump's order to fire about 60 cruise missiles at an air base in Syria on Thursday night drew concerns about its authorization as Trump did not seek prior consent from the Congress. Members of the Congress took to social media to raise questions over the attack.



Ibtimes: http://www.ibtimes.com/trump-bombs-syria-was-missile-attack-legal-launch-was-unauthorized-members-congress-2522266


We dont know what really had happened that cause Trump to launched a missile attack on Syria without the consent from the congress. Though it maybe unconstitutional but possibly that it was done out of the need for launching military measures. Let us think this way if in case the missile was not fired what would happened? If we can answer that question then we can actually say if Trump was wrong or he was right.
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Members of Congress are idiots. They should be expressing concern on the floors of the House and Senate, not on Twitter. The Country is hopeless when the system of checks and balances isn't enforced.
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Members of Congress are idiots. They should be expressing concern on the floors of the House and Senate, not on Twitter. The Country is hopeless when the system of checks and balances isn't enforced.
Donald Trump should know that his major Enemy is going to be the Congress and people from his own country. The something this people do to Obama in the last administration that still keep Assad until today in power then this chemical attack. If congress are anti masses then I come to believe that Congress is being control by cabal which aim is to destroy humanity.
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If someone here just could explain what's the point for attacking and bombing stuff in Syria? If he is targeting Assad then I'm pretty sure they could get his exact location and simply him but from the way I see, they are just trying to destroy the country and kill innocent people in the process, that's all what the U.S is doing since years now.

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If someone here just could explain what's the point for attacking and bombing stuff in Syria? If he is targeting Assad then I'm pretty sure they could get his exact location and simply him but from the way I see, they are just trying to destroy the country and kill innocent people in the process, that's all what the U.S is doing since years now.

Well according to media it is condemning Syria for using chemical weapons even when there is no proof who did it.
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April 10, 2017, 08:54:07 AM
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Donald Trump is a president of United States, do you think that guy who made himself successful (a millionaire) would ask Congress for permission?
He probably thinks that all his choices are right and moral, also useful for his country but this is not true this time.

US is now set in a different light because they sent rockets to independent country, without even getting attacked by Syria.

I think that Trump doesnt want to get controlled by Congress and that is the reason he didnt ask for approval, because he knew that they wouldnt agree with the decision he made.
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April 10, 2017, 09:47:04 AM
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rusian and iran intervension in syria war
i think if USA intervension too in there is no problem so balance, rusia and USA super power country, and always opposed the war policy
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April 11, 2017, 08:36:18 AM
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If someone here just could explain what's the point for attacking and bombing stuff in Syria? If he is targeting Assad then I'm pretty sure they could get his exact location and simply him but from the way I see, they are just trying to destroy the country and kill innocent people in the process, that's all what the U.S is doing since years now.

Well according to media it is condemning Syria for using chemical weapons even when there is no proof who did it.

It is very difficult to prove who was behind the attacks in Khan Sheikhoun. Almost all the warring factions (perhaps with the exception of the Kurds) do possess chemical weapons. And I don't think that it was the SAA, as there was no need for them to use this type of weapon.

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Donald Trump is a president of United States, do you think that guy who made himself successful (a millionaire) would ask Congress for permission?
He probably thinks that all his choices are right and moral, also useful for his country but this is not true this time.

US is now set in a different light because they sent rockets to independent country, without even getting attacked by Syria.

I think that Trump doesnt want to get controlled by Congress and that is the reason he didnt ask for approval, because he knew that they wouldnt agree with the decision he made.

Donald Trump is the type of person who does not like to ask permission from anyone, the kind of person who does what he wants and whenever he wants, sometimes it can be good, but sometimes it can be bad.

In cases like that of Syria I think he should listen to advice from other people



I read news that Russia and Iran warned the US about possible reprisals if they returned to attack Syria.

What can Iran and Russia do against the US?

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April 11, 2017, 10:00:12 AM
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Donald Trump is a president of United States, do you think that guy who made himself successful (a millionaire) would ask Congress for permission?
He probably thinks that all his choices are right and moral, also useful for his country but this is not true this time.

US is now set in a different light because they sent rockets to independent country, without even getting attacked by Syria.

I think that Trump doesnt want to get controlled by Congress and that is the reason he didnt ask for approval, because he knew that they wouldnt agree with the decision he made.

Donald Trump is the type of person who does not like to ask permission from anyone, the kind of person who does what he wants and whenever he wants, sometimes it can be good, but sometimes it can be bad.

In cases like that of Syria I think he should listen to advice from other people



I read news that Russia and Iran warned the US about possible reprisals if they returned to attack Syria.

What can Iran and Russia do against the US?
They can not do anything in addition to sponsoring terrorists in the US, but they need to show within their own countries, they are not afraid of the US and to support patriotism. As for the Russians I think the Congress will support Trump.
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April 11, 2017, 10:19:19 AM
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The attacks were ordered by Trump just to prop up his approval ratings. And they were meant to strike the enemy unexpectedly, and perhaps that was the reason why the approval was not sought from the Congress.

I think if we went back historically, we would find that the commander of a US military vessel did not need specific authorization from Congress to fire his guns 59 times. We could make a list of hundreds of such incidents.

I think if we went back historically, we would find that Trump used to believe it was quite important to have congressional approval for bombing Syria.  It would be a bigly mistake if he does not.  People might get the impression that Trump is desperate and his poll numbers are in tailspin.   Grin

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April 11, 2017, 10:25:03 AM
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The attacks were ordered by Trump just to prop up his approval ratings. And they were meant to strike the enemy unexpectedly, and perhaps that was the reason why the approval was not sought from the Congress.

I think if we went back historically, we would find that the commander of a US military vessel did not need specific authorization from Congress to fire his guns 59 times. We could make a list of hundreds of such incidents.

That's a very different thing than a declaration of war.

I think if we went back historically, we would find that Trump used to believe it was quite important to have congressional approval for bombing Syria.  It would be a bigly mistake if he does not.  People might get the impression that Trump is desperate and his poll numbers are in tailspin.   Grin
Trump really looks inadequate, but I am far from thinking that he does all his actions spontaneously. He definitely has a purpose. Even with a visible confrontation with the Russians I not relieve him of suspicion, in cooperation with them. Maybe it's a cover?
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April 11, 2017, 09:07:40 PM
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The attacks were ordered by Trump just to prop up his approval ratings. And they were meant to strike the enemy unexpectedly, and perhaps that was the reason why the approval was not sought from the Congress.

I think if we went back historically, we would find that the commander of a US military vessel did not need specific authorization from Congress to fire his guns 59 times. We could make a list of hundreds of such incidents.

That's a very different thing than a declaration of war.

I think if we went back historically, we would find that Trump used to believe it was quite important to have congressional approval for bombing Syria.  It would be a bigly mistake if he does not.  People might get the impression that Trump is desperate and his poll numbers are in tailspin.   Grin
Trump really looks inadequate, but I am far from thinking that he does all his actions spontaneously. He definitely has a purpose. Even with a visible confrontation with the Russians I not relieve him of suspicion, in cooperation with them. Maybe it's a cover?
This cover was created specially, and now Trump wants to get rid of this and will very strongly resist. Let it even seem bad behavior. But besides the president, there are also peers and ministers. He did not do everything himself in secret from everyone in his bedroom. This is an explicit solution to the entire white house.
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April 11, 2017, 09:58:58 PM
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I'm pretty sure it's a game. Trump could get the approval in Congress, but so as not to attract attention to this subject Trump to take advantage of the silence. If this were not so, we would have already heard the criticism. But we hear only silence.
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[/quote]Some Democrat and Republican lawmakers are criticizing President Donald Trump for carrying out airstrikes in Syria without getting Congress’ approval first.

The United States launched nearly 60 cruise missiles at a Syrian airfield April 6, reacting to Syrian President Bashar al-Assad’s recent chemical attack that killed more than 80 civilians.

"The Constitution says war must be declared by Congress," said Sen. Tim Kaine, D-Va., in a statement April 7. "I voted for military action against Syria in 2013 when Donald Trump was advocating that America turn its back on Assad’s atrocities. Congress will work with the president, but his failure to seek congressional approval is unlawful."

Sen. Rand Paul, R-Ky., issued a similar statement that read, "While we all condemn the atrocities in Syria, the United States was not attacked. The president needs congressional authorization for military action as required by the Constitution, and I call on him to come to Congress for a proper debate."http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/article/2017/apr/07/trumps-syria-airstrikes-constitutional-or-not/
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