Removing President Jacob Zuma - South Africa

[zumamustfall.org]

Hello everyone,

We're from the ZumaMustFall.org campaign in South Africa. Our government is incredibly corrupt and our president has more than 700 counts of corruption against him.
On Friday, 7th of April 2017, hundreds of thousands of South Africans took to the streets in protest against one man who fears for his life.

He has taken the once mighty African National Congress and reduced it to complete chaos. Nelson Mandela, Ahmed Kathrada, Walter Sisulu, Steve Biko and so many other great leaders who not only took their people to freedom but also managed to steer this country through a miraculous escape from civil war.

Jacob Zuma and his party members, fear that they will go to jail - which they will.

Under his watch we have been downgraded to Junk Status in the last week and it will only get worse as he has now reshuffled his cabinet in order to further strip our tax money for their own personal gain. To top this all off, an Indian family (The Guptas) have all but milked every contract they can. Local banks have started closing their bank accounts, people have marched to their home in Johannesburg and yet, they control Zuma like a puppet.

All political parties have put their differences aside to march against Zuma on Wednesday, 12 April 2017. We need help from anywhere and everywhere and ask that you donate towards our campaign to bring him down. There are many good people in the ANC, very capable people of taking his place and bringing this country of ours back on track.

We need posters, t-shirts, flags, sound equipment, flyers, banners, online advertising spend etc etc.

Today we managed to set up the Bitcoin account and ask that people help us get rid of the man who is unashamedly killing the foundation of what Mandela sat in jail for so long.

Please visit ZumaMustFall.org for the QR/Encrypted String. (or here 1GUnDvSxutC6Ayc5k9bAHpoN4TwyDZWZxe)
Or visit https://www.facebook.com/ZumaMustFallOrg/ for more information.

Many thanks, all transactions and receipts will be posted on the site.

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[Okurkabinladin]

I am not sure, you have chosen the right thread to ask for free money.

Here, we discuss outlook and possible outcome of various actions taking place in the world. Could you post more details on "everyone put their differences aside"? From what I know, South Africa is not country with presidental system. Bulk of power is held by prime minister (also ANC member just like Zuma), so perhaps you should look his way on why your country was degraded to junk status.

Or the fact, that South Africa is being ruled by African National Congress party for more than two decades in row...

[HabBear]

I'm attracted to your cause and I know it's difficult to affect change in the monumentous way you want to. Keep at it, don't get discouraged.

If you'd like to generate more support from this community you should share with us some of the terrible examples that Zuma has oppressed your people.

[zumamustfall.org]

Where does one even begin!

Let's start with the rape case against him that he got away with. This happened years ago but still there are women who protest against him - https://youtu.be/eriwVMIu-Xg

There are 783 cases of corruption against him.
http://www.timeslive.co.za/sundaytimes/stnews/2016/04/29/Read-the-original-corruption-charges-brought-against-President-Zuma1


Under his watch the Marikana massacre took place in which 34 striking mine workers asking die better wages were shot and killed by armed police.
https://youtu.be/sAXzs40WJ6A

The move that sparked the most recent protests was his cabinet reshuffle that he is incredibly good at. This saw the axing of a very good finance minister that was keeping us out of junk status. Zuma replaced him with someone who has no prior experience to run a country's finances. He had made moves before but this latest move was his big culling session to capture the state. He did not consult with the vast majority of the organisations the ANC had long standing agreements with which was the final blow for all political parties to come together' set aside their differences and start the biggest campaign against him this country has ever seen.

He lies non stop to the people of South Africa and he is able to dodge every bullet because of his corrupt connections.

There is now evidence coming out that a UK based PR company has been paid by the Gupta family to sow the seeds of race which we simply cannot afford given our history in this country.
http[Suspicious link removed]cutives-grows/

I can carry on all night but will add more tomorrow.

Many thanks for your concern. We're not asking for free money,  we're asking to prevent something that will turn very ugly if this man is not stopped.

Values drive humanity forward and this man is not Nelson Mandela - he is our neighbour - Robert Mugabe who has all but destroyed what was once known as the breadbasket of Africa due to a gross lack of leadership and self interest. If we do not act now,  we will head down that path.

I'm attracted to your cause and I know it's difficult to affect change in the monumentous way you want to. Keep at it, don't get discouraged.

If you'd like to generate more support from this community you should share with us some of the terrible examples that Zuma has oppressed your people.

[Sithara007]

This guy has been a disaster for South Africa. He is incompetent, corrupt and extremely arrogant. And in addition to that, he is openly racist and has played a major part in increasing the emigration outflow of the South African whites.

[Xester]

Hello everyone,

We're from the ZumaMustFall.org campaign in South Africa. Our government is incredibly corrupt and our president has more than 700 counts of corruption against him.
On Friday, 7th of April 2017, hundreds of thousands of South Africans took to the streets in protest against one man who fears for his life.

He has taken the once mighty African National Congress and reduced it to complete chaos. Nelson Mandela, Ahmed Kathrada, Walter Sisulu, Steve Biko and so many other great leaders who not only took their people to freedom but also managed to steer this country through a miraculous escape from civil war.

Jacob Zuma and his party members, fear that they will go to jail - which they will.

Under his watch we have been downgraded to Junk Status in the last week and it will only get worse as he has now reshuffled his cabinet in order to further strip our tax money for their own personal gain. To top this all off, an Indian family (The Guptas) have all but milked every contract they can. Local banks have started closing their bank accounts, people have marched to their home in Johannesburg and yet, they control Zuma like a puppet.

All political parties have put their differences aside to march against Zuma on Wednesday, 12 April 2017. We need help from anywhere and everywhere and ask that you donate towards our campaign to bring him down. There are many good people in the ANC, very capable people of taking his place and bringing this country of ours back on track.

We need posters, t-shirts, flags, sound equipment, flyers, banners, online advertising spend etc etc.

Today we managed to set up the Bitcoin account and ask that people help us get rid of the man who is unashamedly killing the foundation of what Mandela sat in jail for so long.

Please visit ZumaMustFall.org for the QR/Encrypted String. (or here 1GUnDvSxutC6Ayc5k9bAHpoN4TwyDZWZxe)
Or visit https://www.facebook.com/ZumaMustFallOrg/ for more information.

Many thanks, all transactions and receipts will be posted on the site.

That is one heck of a news. Though we may not be shocked about the issue on corruption but placing a president guilty of corruption is another issue. Their government was somehow made some good steps as to make the president pay on the illegal things he has done. Let us just hope that the President was really accountable on the case and not a sacrificial lamb of the people who benefited from the corruption.

[zumamustfall.org]

That is one heck of a news. Though we may not be shocked about the issue on corruption but placing a president guilty of corruption is another issue. Their government was somehow made some good steps as to make the president pay on the illegal things he has done. Let us just hope that the President was really accountable on the case and not a sacrificial lamb of the people who benefited from the corruption.

Unfortunately, the Nkandla abuse to improve his home with tax payer's money is tiny compared to what he has already done and that he will never ever be able to pay back. Not in his time nor any of his family members in 10 decades.

The money spent on cars for all his wives alone could have paid for 61 police officer's salaries for a year. Not only do we need the jobs, but we need the protection too.

Our education system, that system that is meant to free our children's minds to become social entreprenuers to make profound change, is a complete and utter disaster because service delivery is last on the list for Zuma. Service Delivery is probably the number one thing that everyone is fighting for, what our tax money is meant for.

In our country we have something known as Broad-Based Black Economic Empowerment (B-BBEE) - a law that is meant to right the wrongs of the past by giving more people opportunities they did not have in the past. This has all but been abused to give the few politically corrupt connected,high paying contracts.

The divide between the rich and the poor is not a South African-only problem but it is rife and it is getting worse.

[zumamustfall.org]

We have one more chance on the 18th to remove this president. On the 18th, our parliament will reconvene for a Vote Of No Confidence.
The problem is that every time we have this Vote Of No Confidence, the speaker of the house, Baleka Mbete, who is just as corrupt and afraid of the president does not allow for a secret vote.

All our political parties have come together and now going to the Constitutional Court...the highest court in the land to overturn her ruling not to allow a secret vote in parliament.

They have done it before and they will push for it again to vote publicly in which case Zuma will win again. He will then only be challenged again in 2019 and if he is anything like Robert Mugabe, he will rig the elections. He knows he is going to jail if they get him out which is why he will do anything to stay in power.

[Sithara007]

He will then only be challenged again in 2019 and if he is anything like Robert Mugabe, he will rig the elections. He knows he is going to jail if they get him out which is why he will do anything to stay in power.

I really doubt whether he needs to rig the elections. The ANC remains immensely popular among the ethnic Africans (who are around 80% of the total population). And despite the election of Mmusi Maimane as the head of the opposition DA party, most of the Africans regard that party as white-dominated.

[Slow death]

This guy has been a disaster for South Africa. He is incompetent, corrupt and extremely arrogant. And in addition to that, he is openly racist and has played a major part in increasing the emigration outflow of the South African whites.

To add. Since this guy became president, cases of xenophobia have increased, Mozambicans living in South Africa are constantly being murdered, their assets are being plundered and the South African government is doing nothing.


OP I'm sorry, I'm from Mozambique, we are neighbors, I like to travel to your country since we are very close to each other, you are very well received in my country... look at the Ponta de Ouro for example. Realize that we treat you well, but you treat the Mozambicans badly.

You need to change

[Kemarit]

This guy has been a disaster for South Africa. He is incompetent, corrupt and extremely arrogant. And in addition to that, he is openly racist and has played a major part in increasing the emigration outflow of the South African whites.

Agreed. I think he needs to stepped down specially the corruption allegations against him. Even the African National Congress (ANC) was also been involved in the corruption allegation as well but denied wrongdoing.

I think he will do anything to hold on to power though. Heck, he can even used the current situation in his country as an excuse to supress the public view against him. I don't know if he is capable of declaring a nationwide Martial Law in SA, but when push comes to shove I'm sure he will, to again supress all public clamour and maybe jailed who he thinks its is his enemies. I hope I'm wrong.

[darkseid1199]

Jacob Zuma has been known to be corrupt for a very long time now, no wonder Thabo Mbeki tried but failed to stop him from becoming the leader of the ANC. He should be impeached for all sorts of things he did like using state money to renovate his personal abode.

[Mometaskers]

I don't know much about South Africa except for it used to have an apartheid system. I'm reading increasingly negative news about it though. There are many news articles about farmers getting murdered and racial riots. The photo of a man licking a machete I found particularly disturbing.

If things continue like this, they could have apartheid again, this time with black on top. Well, guess the BLM movement would find that great. We can say that maybe whites can just leave the place but there are probably some who will not have the resources to do so. Maybe start sending them bitcoins?

[bryant.coleman]

Jacob Zuma has been known to be corrupt for a very long time now, no wonder Thabo Mbeki tried but failed to stop him from becoming the leader of the ANC. He should be impeached for all sorts of things he did like using state money to renovate his personal abode.

He is still supported by a lot of the top ANC officials, because he was the one who expanded the ANC's base in to KwaZulu-Natal by decimating the Inkatha Freedom Party (Zuma is also a Zulu). The non-Zulu African ethnic groups (Xhosa, Sotho, Tsonga.etc) also tolerate him to an extent, although they are not very excited about the choice.

[kodoll]

Jacob Zuma has been known to be corrupt for a very long time now, no wonder Thabo Mbeki tried but failed to stop him from becoming the leader of the ANC. He should be impeached for all sorts of things he did like using state money to renovate his personal abode.

He is still supported by a lot of the top ANC officials, because he was the one who expanded the ANC's base in to KwaZulu-Natal by decimating the Inkatha Freedom Party (Zuma is also a Zulu). The non-Zulu African ethnic groups (Xhosa, Sotho, Tsonga.etc) also tolerate him to an extent, although they are not very excited about the choice.

To us, all the circumstances seem very distorted, and local people perceive and see everything differently, what they have in the country. So either they were forced to make today's choice or this is their natural choice. And then we must take it as it should.

[zumamustfall.org]

He will then only be challenged again in 2019 and if he is anything like Robert Mugabe, he will rig the elections. He knows he is going to jail if they get him out which is why he will do anything to stay in power.

I really doubt whether he needs to rig the elections. The ANC remains immensely popular among the ethnic Africans (who are around 80% of the total population). And despite the election of Mmusi Maimane as the head of the opposition DA party, most of the Africans regard that party as white-dominated.

The problem though is that in our last elections the ANC lost 3 metros. They are a 105 year old liberation party and they will not be letting go soon.
Every time we try a Motion Of No Confidence, Baleka Mbete, the speaker of the house refuses a secret vote. The secret vote is what we need in order for the "true ANC members" the ones who believe in the right thing to do, to have a vote that would...

a. Not lose their jobs.
b. Not risk their lives.

If a Vote Of No Confidence were to go through, ALL of his cabinet crooks would fall with him too and that is what they fear the most because the vast majority of them are tenderpreneurs, siphoning off whatever tender they can get for their own benefits.

[zumamustfall.org]

When all the parties drop their differences to try and get rid of a corrupt president.

All parties coming together https://www.youtube.com/embed/zHsZ2CVk1p4"

[Sithara007]

He will then only be challenged again in 2019 and if he is anything like Robert Mugabe, he will rig the elections. He knows he is going to jail if they get him out which is why he will do anything to stay in power.

I really doubt whether he needs to rig the elections. The ANC remains immensely popular among the ethnic Africans (who are around 80% of the total population). And despite the election of Mmusi Maimane as the head of the opposition DA party, most of the Africans regard that party as white-dominated.

The problem though is that in our last elections the ANC lost 3 metros. They are a 105 year old liberation party and they will not be letting go soon.
Every time we try a Motion Of No Confidence, Baleka Mbete, the speaker of the house refuses a secret vote. The secret vote is what we need in order for the "true ANC members" the ones who believe in the right thing to do, to have a vote that would...

a. Not lose their jobs.
b. Not risk their lives.

If a Vote Of No Confidence were to go through, ALL of his cabinet crooks would fall with him too and that is what they fear the most because the vast majority of them are tenderpreneurs, siphoning off whatever tender they can get for their own benefits.

The African National Congress (ANC) of South Africa is very similar to the Indian National Congress (INC) of India. The INC managed to rule India for many decades, despite the rampant corruption and nepotism. The people voted for them, just because they were the party of liberation. But look at their condition now. The INC was demolished during the 2014 elections. They got just 44 seats out of 543. The same is going to happen to the ANC, if they take their voters for granted.