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November 14, 2017, 07:44:25 AM
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sorry! i am just a newbie about XTRABYTES
just wnat to ask ~ if i want to register a STATIC NODES....(maybe like masternode?!)
but i don't have a static ip......is that means I still have to rent a VPS to run this node??                                 

No you can even run itnon a raspberry pi
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Please answer me this:

How much does it cost to move $10,000 worth of BTC?

How much does it cost to move $10,000 worth of XBY?

It costs $0.70 for XBY and will be completed very quickly, whats the answer for BTC and how long does it take?

you are taking 75 coins apparently it's gone up, it's ridiculous, if you want to be serious idea it should be way less. it's not going to drive price having it so high, it's not in relation to bitcoin that matters it matters how much the coin exchanges for, if you buy coins and send coins buy something, you have to tipple the amount lost in-case you have to send it to new exchanges or cash out. so you make 3 transactions you'd have to put the price up by 75 x 3. because thats extra coins to do business, thats not attractive to set up a business use the coins.

it's not a practical way to use a coin. it makes no sense. the is no point in saying this is the bitcoin price so we must charge this amount. it's such a irrelevant way of looking at any situation.

it's lunatic nonsense

all the other things they say is nonsense as well. people are happy to use what they want to use. they don't want to use Xtrabytes otherwise the price would be doing better. it's not.

the evidence backs my point not his.

Look, you really do not know what you are talking about. The fees for trading are normal fees charged by the exchanges. The higher fees are ONLY for moving to the external wallets. A person can trade all day long, moving thousands or millions of coins and pay normal fees. Then, at the end of the day, they move their coins offline for 50 XBY and yes Cryptopia added 25 on top... But this is ONLY for transfer to wallet. Eventually, these transactions fees for external wallets are being reduced.

you can click on coinmarket cap here, https://coinmarketcap.com/all/views/all/

click on trade volume, you are not where near anyone decent coins. who cares about cryptopia

More importantly, between our 3 exchanges we have the following amounts of coins for sale:

Cryptopia: 15.5 million
C-CEX: 13.4 million
Yobit: Unknown but likely far less since we advised people to move away from this exchange

This is out of a total liquid supply of about 430 million XBY. This means less than 10% of XBY is available for sale.

XTRABYTES is a future giant... We are building something that will change the industry because the Blockchain can be better and we are making several critical changes to make our coin far superior. Clearly the majority of the XTRABYTES Community sees this and therefore they are not selling... Others, such as yourself are more than welcome to complain but in your own best interest, we encourage you to do your homework.

Thank you!

still irrelevant, you can release all the tech in the world and won't raise trade volume till you lower the cost of transaction



You're Weird...

really constructive, you only attack the man with one word when you've lost the argument.  

you know it's holding down trade volume and the only reaction to increasing the trade volume, is to reduce the transaction fee.

reduce the trading fee increase the volume, let other people build infrastructure or implement the coin around them so people who run business can grow the coin supply to run nodes, by having it high you suppress trade volume. this word is truth. but you people can't handle the truth. you can only try to rubbish things you do not understand.

its obvious maths involved, by lowering the fee, the are billions of people in the world, you use the fee as a selling point of implementation, which should be 0.0002 per coin and you start by connecting to business to implement the coin into systems, probably online companies, and thats how you earn money from holding the investment, you earn more this way than having a high fee. due to a increase in volume in transactions. if you think this is weird, then you are just a  clown.

it's a law of economics. bitcoin never had a 75 coin transaction fee. no successful coin ever has.

name one coin that has a 75 transaction fee that is worth $100+

you won't be able to name one, you won't have a solid argument, you will just have insults, so i won't take anything you say seriously, because you've not a decent come back,

well done at proving you are in a weak position.

nobody here defending the transaction fee has a solid position.

proper weak.

Hey, look... post all you want, it's your time. If you somehow think that this or any other kind of FUD is going to help your other positions, fire away!!

As you have been told, we do not have a high trade fee on the exchanges. Clearly you are not listening about this and this further goes to show that you completely do not understand why XBY is different and what MAKES XBY different.

But, go ahead... keep up the argument. Anyone here at XBY knows the truth and they are probably just breezing over your posts now, because quite frankly, you make no sense. This is like trying to teach someone how to drive when you have not even read the basics of driving theory yet.

Do yourself a favor and learn about XBY, rather than post this nonsense that is only relevant when talking about other "TRADITIONAL" coins.

We are NOT like the other coins.

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November 14, 2017, 08:28:58 AM
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You know many people say Satoshi is/was Hungarian.... Ultra-secretive, rainmanesque, single dev Borz is also Hungarian..... connect the dots people!

Looking for the next 10x Small Cap for Q2 2018? $XBY (dApp Platform, New PoSign Algorithm), $SHIFT (dPoS Decentralized Web 3.0 on IFPS) & $BLOCK (Blockchain Agnostic DeX, atomic swaps)
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November 14, 2017, 09:54:46 AM
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Please answer me this:

How much does it cost to move $10,000 worth of BTC?

How much does it cost to move $10,000 worth of XBY?

It costs $0.70 for XBY and will be completed very quickly, whats the answer for BTC and how long does it take?

you are taking 75 coins apparently it's gone up, it's ridiculous, if you want to be serious idea it should be way less. it's not going to drive price having it so high, it's not in relation to bitcoin that matters it matters how much the coin exchanges for, if you buy coins and send coins buy something, you have to tipple the amount lost in-case you have to send it to new exchanges or cash out. so you make 3 transactions you'd have to put the price up by 75 x 3. because thats extra coins to do business, thats not attractive to set up a business use the coins.

it's not a practical way to use a coin. it makes no sense. the is no point in saying this is the bitcoin price so we must charge this amount. it's such a irrelevant way of looking at any situation.

it's lunatic nonsense

all the other things they say is nonsense as well. people are happy to use what they want to use. they don't want to use Xtrabytes otherwise the price would be doing better. it's not.

the evidence backs my point not his.

Look, you really do not know what you are talking about. The fees for trading are normal fees charged by the exchanges. The higher fees are ONLY for moving to the external wallets. A person can trade all day long, moving thousands or millions of coins and pay normal fees. Then, at the end of the day, they move their coins offline for 50 XBY and yes Cryptopia added 25 on top... But this is ONLY for transfer to wallet. Eventually, these transactions fees for external wallets are being reduced.

you can click on coinmarket cap here, https://coinmarketcap.com/all/views/all/

click on trade volume, you are not where near anyone decent coins. who cares about cryptopia

More importantly, between our 3 exchanges we have the following amounts of coins for sale:

Cryptopia: 15.5 million
C-CEX: 13.4 million
Yobit: Unknown but likely far less since we advised people to move away from this exchange

This is out of a total liquid supply of about 430 million XBY. This means less than 10% of XBY is available for sale.

XTRABYTES is a future giant... We are building something that will change the industry because the Blockchain can be better and we are making several critical changes to make our coin far superior. Clearly the majority of the XTRABYTES Community sees this and therefore they are not selling... Others, such as yourself are more than welcome to complain but in your own best interest, we encourage you to do your homework.

Thank you!

still irrelevant, you can release all the tech in the world and won't raise trade volume till you lower the cost of transaction



You're Weird...

really constructive, you only attack the man with one word when you've lost the argument.  

you know it's holding down trade volume and the only reaction to increasing the trade volume, is to reduce the transaction fee.

reduce the trading fee increase the volume, let other people build infrastructure or implement the coin around them so people who run business can grow the coin supply to run nodes, by having it high you suppress trade volume. this word is truth. but you people can't handle the truth. you can only try to rubbish things you do not understand.

its obvious maths involved, by lowering the fee, the are billions of people in the world, you use the fee as a selling point of implementation, which should be 0.0002 per coin and you start by connecting to business to implement the coin into systems, probably online companies, and thats how you earn money from holding the investment, you earn more this way than having a high fee. due to a increase in volume in transactions. if you think this is weird, then you are just a  clown.

it's a law of economics. bitcoin never had a 75 coin transaction fee. no successful coin ever has.

name one coin that has a 75 transaction fee that is worth $100+

you won't be able to name one, you won't have a solid argument, you will just have insults, so i won't take anything you say seriously, because you've not a decent come back,

well done at proving you are in a weak position.

nobody here defending the transaction fee has a solid position.

proper weak.

Hey, look... post all you want, it's your time. If you somehow think that this or any other kind of FUD is going to help your other positions, fire away!!

As you have been told, we do not have a high trade fee on the exchanges. Clearly you are not listening about this and this further goes to show that you completely do not understand why XBY is different and what MAKES XBY different.

But, go ahead... keep up the argument. Anyone here at XBY knows the truth and they are probably just breezing over your posts now, because quite frankly, you make no sense. This is like trying to teach someone how to drive when you have not even read the basics of driving theory yet.

Do yourself a favor and learn about XBY, rather than post this nonsense that is only relevant when talking about other "TRADITIONAL" coins.

We are NOT like the other coins.

“You can resist an invading army; you cannot resist an idea whose time has come.” Victor Hugo

XTRABYTES











this does not address anything, i know what the coin is, but i'm not fudding your coin i'm making a obvious statement, the fact is it's to high. if you don't want to change it don't change it.

but your response is arrogant. in-fact since you've introduced this system it's not moved anywhere but down. should be telling you something. anyway if you are using X Fuel as a way to gain cash, then putting higher makes no sense either. it's just greed at this point and also a waste in marketing funds, if you are marketing it, because you are charging 75 a transaction, you should be only marketing if this transaction fee is low, it's a waste of cash.

they will work this out, they should use the marketing funds when they have low fees, because what attracts people, it's not low it's high in coin volume.

it does not matter what you claim, people will go and use something else with transaction fee the loads to choose from.
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this is the equivalent of whats going on here,

i'm like Gordon Ramsey talking to this numpty it's just like the situation.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xKfeQ8JNS38

maybe i should go in a bit hard as well, maybe it's not hard enough,

why would you make the amount of X Fuel so large to many coins?

why would you not have a decrease in X Fuel? so the value of X Fuel holds better? in value?

why would you not then pay out X Fuel and maybe have a higher Fee that because it's use case will be less?

clearly you should have low transaction fees on Xtrabytes. it's a obvious selling point.
you should have less X Fuel.

X Fuel should be about 35 million max, be preferably 20 million.
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November 14, 2017, 11:38:54 AM
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xfuel worth nothing anyway except for worth lie from yankee that he sell it for 400 sat. where proof make sale yankee?

this type of people xtrabye is lie about thing hope it go away.

lie can't be mine but cna be mined but no worry not big deal. yes it is big deal you make claim and then it turn out fake 2 times just this post and many more i list later.

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reduce the trading fee increase the volume

What?  There is an exchange trading fee.  If you have an issue with "trade fees" take it up with the exchange, not the ANN Page.

The XFUEL TX fee is 1 XFUEL

Again, the transaction fee for XBY is 50.  Cryptopia has it at 75 and they have been contacted numerous times.

Trading on the exchange costs zero transaction fees.  They take a small fee, paid to the exchange., etc

The argument that you use that "no coin has a hundred dollar transaction fee, = XBY is bad" is invalid.  It has been stated over and over that fees would be reduced in the future AND that there is most likely going to be a feature to pay zero transaction fees, such as a friends list.


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November 14, 2017, 01:15:25 PM
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this is the equivalent of whats going on here,

i'm like Gordon Ramsey talking to this numpty it's just like the situation.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xKfeQ8JNS38

maybe i should go in a bit hard as well, maybe it's not hard enough,

why would you make the amount of X Fuel so large to many coins?

why would you not have a decrease in X Fuel? so the value of X Fuel holds better? in value?

why would you not then pay out X Fuel and maybe have a higher Fee that because it's use case will be less?

clearly you should have low transaction fees on Xtrabytes. it's a obvious selling point.
you should have less X Fuel.

X Fuel should be about 35 million max, be preferably 20 million.

I have a really good idea for you.

Go make your own coin!! You clearly know far better than we do. So, good luck~~

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November 14, 2017, 01:24:11 PM
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It still uses PoW from the old bitmox chain right now. So you could theoretically get some of the tx fees which are supposed to go the dev fund, but it is not much. See answer above


Yes, but XFUEL is using new algorithm, on 10 hard coded nodes (test-chain for the developer).

When XBY goes over to the new chain tech will it be automatic or will there be some sort of swap?   

This post from a few months ago explains the basics of what will happen:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1864397.msg18995594#msg18995594


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reduce the trading fee increase the volume

What?  There is an exchange trading fee.  If you have an issue with "trade fees" take it up with the exchange, not the ANN Page.

The XFUEL TX fee is 1 XFUEL

Again, the transaction fee for XBY is 50.  Cryptopia has it at 75 and they have been contacted numerous times.

Trading on the exchange costs zero transaction fees.  They take a small fee, paid to the exchange., etc

The argument that you use that "no coin has a hundred dollar transaction fee, = XBY is bad" is invalid.  It has been stated over and over that fees would be reduced in the future AND that there is most likely going to be a feature to pay zero transaction fees, such as a friends list.


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November 14, 2017, 02:19:09 PM
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this is the equivalent of whats going on here,

i'm like Gordon Ramsey talking to this numpty it's just like the situation.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xKfeQ8JNS38

maybe i should go in a bit hard as well, maybe it's not hard enough,

why would you make the amount of X Fuel so large to many coins?

why would you not have a decrease in X Fuel? so the value of X Fuel holds better? in value?

why would you not then pay out X Fuel and maybe have a higher Fee that because it's use case will be less?

clearly you should have low transaction fees on Xtrabytes. it's a obvious selling point.
you should have less X Fuel.

X Fuel should be about 35 million max, be preferably 20 million.

I have a really good idea for you.

Go make your own coin!! You clearly know far better than we do. So, good luck~~



Yeah thanks! Good luck to you!! have a good trip up the river denial.
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November 14, 2017, 03:20:49 PM
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sorry! i am just a newbie about XTRABYTES
just wnat to ask ~ if i want to register a STATIC NODES....(maybe like masternode?!)
but i don't have a static ip......is that means I still have to rent a VPS to run this node??                                 

Renting a VPS would be optimal.
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It still uses PoW from the old bitmox chain right now. So you could theoretically get some of the tx fees which are supposed to go the dev fund, but it is not much. See answer above


Yes, but XFUEL is using new algorithm, on 10 hard coded nodes (test-chain for the developer).

When XBY goes over to the new chain tech will it be automatic or will there be some sort of swap?   

This post from a few months ago explains the basics of what will happen:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1864397.msg18995594#msg18995594




Thanks I had missed that page of posts when I skimmed through all the pages.  Going to go read and digest it now.

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November 14, 2017, 08:53:35 PM
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sorry! i am just a newbie about XTRABYTES
just wnat to ask ~ if i want to register a STATIC NODES....(maybe like masternode?!)
but i don't have a static ip......is that means I still have to rent a VPS to run this node??                                 

Renting a VPS would be optimal.

Well it depends of the stability, I prefer a local set up for eg on raspberry  pi or a local installation with os on usb stick, much cheaper
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sorry! i am just a newbie about XTRABYTES
just wnat to ask ~ if i want to register a STATIC NODES....(maybe like masternode?!)
but i don't have a static ip......is that means I still have to rent a VPS to run this node??                                 

Renting a VPS would be optimal.

VPS is the way to go.  I have a Pi also, but honestly never have used it since VPS rental is so cheap now.

Eventually, when the XBY platform is live and nodes are hosting modules (such as X-CHANGE), it might be best to have a powerful server running the node.  I am sure we will get all the information needed before that time.

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sorry! i am just a newbie about XTRABYTES
just wnat to ask ~ if i want to register a STATIC NODES....(maybe like masternode?!)
but i don't have a static ip......is that means I still have to rent a VPS to run this node??                                 

Renting a VPS would be optimal.

VPS is the way to go.  I have a Pi also, but honestly never have used it since VPS rental is so cheap now.

Eventually, when the XBY platform is live and nodes are hosting modules (such as X-CHANGE), it might be best to have a powerful server running the node.  I am sure we will get all the information needed before that time.

It seems like VPS will be the way to go especially if you have more then one nodes.  Hosting the modules will probably take more resources to get good performance.  It will matter what the fees that you can collect from hosting versus the cost of running the VPS.

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sorry! i am just a newbie about XTRABYTES
just wnat to ask ~ if i want to register a STATIC NODES....(maybe like masternode?!)
but i don't have a static ip......is that means I still have to rent a VPS to run this node??                                 

Renting a VPS would be optimal.

VPS is the way to go.  I have a Pi also, but honestly never have used it since VPS rental is so cheap now.

Eventually, when the XBY platform is live and nodes are hosting modules (such as X-CHANGE), it might be best to have a powerful server running the node.  I am sure we will get all the information needed before that time.

It seems like VPS will be the way to go especially if you have more then one nodes.  Hosting the modules will probably take more resources to get good performance.  It will matter what the fees that you can collect from hosting versus the cost of running the VPS.

Yes, once we get rolling with modules and the need for X-VAULT storage, you definitely want to have some performance and space. Its important to know that most modules will use X-VAULT. This is another critical infrastructure of XTRABYTES.
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sorry! i am just a newbie about XTRABYTES
just wnat to ask ~ if i want to register a STATIC NODES....(maybe like masternode?!)
but i don't have a static ip......is that means I still have to rent a VPS to run this node??                                 

Renting a VPS would be optimal.

VPS is the way to go.  I have a Pi also, but honestly never have used it since VPS rental is so cheap now.

Eventually, when the XBY platform is live and nodes are hosting modules (such as X-CHANGE), it might be best to have a powerful server running the node.  I am sure we will get all the information needed before that time.

It seems like VPS will be the way to go especially if you have more then one nodes.  Hosting the modules will probably take more resources to get good performance.  It will matter what the fees that you can collect from hosting versus the cost of running the VPS.

Yes, once we get rolling with modules and the need for X-VAULT storage, you definitely want to have some performance and space. Its important to know that most modules will use X-VAULT. This is another critical infrastructure of XTRABYTES.

It will be better for the network as a whole if people use remote VPS servers.  More spread out Statics should mean more resiliency in the system.  If we have to many statics clustered in homes the system would still probably be fine but it seems that it would work better with greater resources at its disposable via VPS servers.

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November 15, 2017, 02:52:11 PM
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Xtrabytes Blockexplorer is online!

Yobit and Cryptopia exchanges are also linked Smiley

C-Cex - a bit later.

PS: Block explorer for XFUEL is coming soon Smiley

Thank you.

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sorry! i am just a newbie about XTRABYTES
just wnat to ask ~ if i want to register a STATIC NODES....(maybe like masternode?!)
but i don't have a static ip......is that means I still have to rent a VPS to run this node??                                 

Renting a VPS would be optimal.

VPS is the way to go.  I have a Pi also, but honestly never have used it since VPS rental is so cheap now.

Eventually, when the XBY platform is live and nodes are hosting modules (such as X-CHANGE), it might be best to have a powerful server running the node.  I am sure we will get all the information needed before that time.

It seems like VPS will be the way to go especially if you have more then one nodes.  Hosting the modules will probably take more resources to get good performance.  It will matter what the fees that you can collect from hosting versus the cost of running the VPS.

Yes, once we get rolling with modules and the need for X-VAULT storage, you definitely want to have some performance and space. Its important to know that most modules will use X-VAULT. This is another critical infrastructure of XTRABYTES.

It will be better for the network as a whole if people use remote VPS servers.  More spread out Statics should mean more resiliency in the system.  If we have to many statics clustered in homes the system would still probably be fine but it seems that it would work better with greater resources at its disposable via VPS servers.

I believe you are rewarded more for having spread out nodes not isolated to one location (assuming you own more than one), so the incentive is there for it.
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