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April 17, 2017, 03:29:33 PM
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I agree. Of course Russia favoured Trump over Clinton, that was pretty obvious. However Russia didn't help Trump to win the elections, it was the US population that was tired of the same old politics and never being heared.

But yeah, I hink Putin now wished Clinton would have been president. At least he would know what her actions and responses would be, instead of Trump who is a lose missile that can either go left, right or straight through.
Predictability in politics is always a guarantee of stability and security. Even if the country aggressively, you always know what to do to not cross. In the case of c Trump it is impossible to predict his actions and it is bad not just for Putin.

The world government dictates the actions of Trump as it is beneficial to them, but for the rest it is unpredictable.
I don't believe in the existence of a world government. It may of course be a conspiracy among the largest financiers and Industrialists, but this is different. In fact, the logic in the actions of Trump exists. It just can be seen already after Trump anything made.

All politicians are pawns, only the one who understands that a real politician will not allow collapse of his country can see this. The economy has long ceased to exist. The richest people rule the world through politicians, so unpredictable actions can be expected from them.
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April 17, 2017, 03:41:27 PM
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The US President Donald trump was a disappointment to his Russian counterpart Vladimir Putin and the entire Kremlin elite. In Moscow joyfully "drinking vodka" in honor of the victory of the American leader in the elections, but then realized his mistake – he will never be loyal to the Kremlin. The harshness and unpredictability of the US President has given Moscow a new reality. Putin understands – trump as a partner, not very stable ... he does not understand it. Remember, in that day when he won the elections in the state Duma, Zhirinovsky said a toast, they drank vodka, applauded in the Duma... what? After that, they all understand that it was a mistake that this man is not as loyal as they thought. And that's fine. I am very glad to see that Russia is beginning to understand this man is not her partner. This man suddenly tomorrow may not be a friend, but an enemy of Russia. https://youtu.be/pvvrBa6-c6A

Lol, Trump is unpredictable like a polar bear! The world is yet to understand who the real Donald Trump is, his intentions, powers and abilities!

I'm glad time will show us who is the real Donald Trump because we still don't know some of his intentions, are they good for us or not, though I like his confidence.

Let's hope and pray for Trump to do good for the world not even U.S alone because that man is already an American President! That means there's nothing anyone can do to stop him, if he want do something good or bad!

   
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April 17, 2017, 04:37:37 PM
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I suspect that most rational and decent non-Americans developed some hope for the American people who voted for what Trump claimed to represent.  Yes, we were sold a pig in a poke, but our intentions were good and if, somehow, we manage to achieve them the world will be a better and safer place.

Putin may or may not be among those who feel this way.  He could be an elitist and a globalist himself.  Almost certainly he has enough personal wealth to be.  It's hard to tell if the guy is a rare true Nationalist and patriot, and I spend quite a bit of mental energy trying to figure that out.

I don't doubt that Putin is 'scared' of the U.S..  Only a fool would not be and whatever Putin is, he is clearly no fool.  If the U.S. and China are allied through Globalism and are increasingly militaristic, the entire world is totally fucked.  Especially the American people and the Chinese people.


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April 17, 2017, 05:13:36 PM
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I agree. Of course Russia favoured Trump over Clinton, that was pretty obvious. However Russia didn't help Trump to win the elections, it was the US population that was tired of the same old politics and never being heared.

But yeah, I hink Putin now wished Clinton would have been president. At least he would know what her actions and responses would be, instead of Trump who is a lose missile that can either go left, right or straight through.
Predictability in politics is always a guarantee of stability and security. Even if the country aggressively, you always know what to do to not cross. In the case of c Trump it is impossible to predict his actions and it is bad not just for Putin.

The world government dictates the actions of Trump as it is beneficial to them, but for the rest it is unpredictable.
I don't believe in the existence of a world government. It may of course be a conspiracy among the largest financiers and Industrialists, but this is different. In fact, the logic in the actions of Trump exists. It just can be seen already after Trump anything made.

All politicians are pawns, only the one who understands that a real politician will not allow collapse of his country can see this. The economy has long ceased to exist. The richest people rule the world through politicians, so unpredictable actions can be expected from them.
Why do you think that if the world is ruled by rich people that in their actions there is no logic. If there is a logic, it is always possible to predict the further course of events. Putin also sees the logic. Just Putin can impose their own rules and that he is mad. This is a big blow to Putin's image inside Russia. In this world he has not the authority.
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April 17, 2017, 11:51:45 PM
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I agree. Of course Russia favoured Trump over Clinton, that was pretty obvious. However Russia didn't help Trump to win the elections, it was the US population that was tired of the same old politics and never being heared.

But yeah, I hink Putin now wished Clinton would have been president. At least he would know what her actions and responses would be, instead of Trump who is a lose missile that can either go left, right or straight through.
Predictability in politics is always a guarantee of stability and security. Even if the country aggressively, you always know what to do to not cross. In the case of c Trump it is impossible to predict his actions and it is bad not just for Putin.

The world government dictates the actions of Trump as it is beneficial to them, but for the rest it is unpredictable.
I don't believe in the existence of a world government. It may of course be a conspiracy among the largest financiers and Industrialists, but this is different. In fact, the logic in the actions of Trump exists. It just can be seen already after Trump anything made.

All politicians are pawns, only the one who understands that a real politician will not allow collapse of his country can see this. The economy has long ceased to exist. The richest people rule the world through politicians, so unpredictable actions can be expected from them.
Why do you think that if the world is ruled by rich people that in their actions there is no logic. If there is a logic, it is always possible to predict the further course of events. Putin also sees the logic. Just Putin can impose their own rules and that he is mad. This is a big blow to Putin's image inside Russia. In this world he has not the authority.

Putin is hungry for power. He wants to control more territory and was hoping that Trump would not challenge anything he does. The problem for Putin is that Trump can't control everything America does because Congress won't let him.
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April 18, 2017, 01:33:49 AM
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Putin is hungry for power. He wants to control more territory and was hoping that Trump would not challenge anything he does. The problem for Putin is that Trump can't control everything America does because Congress won't let him.

Putin has no interest outside the ethnic Russian populated territories. On the other hand, it is NATO which is hungry for power. They are constantly expanding, and right now they are trying to enroll Ukraine and Moldova.

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April 18, 2017, 01:41:45 AM
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Putin is hungry for power. He wants to control more territory and was hoping that Trump would not challenge anything he does. The problem for Putin is that Trump can't control everything America does because Congress won't let him.

I don't doubt that Putin is a slimeball, but it seems to me that he and Russia are at this point in history the primary force of decency in the world.  Fighting the CIA, Mossad, and Saudi mercenaries, showing some care for the Russian people when it comes to NGOs, GMOs and other globalist projects, etc.

Probably it is just an accident of fate that doing the effective and resistant thing happens to be doing the right thing at this point.  A reflection of the absolute 'evil' (or whatever one wants to call it) of the Western deep-state domination and the Chinese Communist Party's deals with them.

Or it's all just Putin just acting his part in the global stagecraft.  Hard to tell.


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