Paybis exchange?

[OmegaStarScream]

URL:  https://paybis.com/

I never tried it but I saw some people wearing their signature on the forums and I thought I should ask about it. It's probably one of the few exchanges that accept multiple payment methods including gift cards without the need of verification (If you are sending bitcoin). If someone here used it, I'd appreciate an honest review/feedback.

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[amacar2]

Don't know how they are allowing their users to buy bitcoin with paypal as far as i know paypal strictly restrict any bitcoin related transactions so i think we have to be careful when using them.

Another thing is that they have very high fees compared to other similar service i have used before to exchange bitcoin to perfectmoney and vice versa. Paying 4% for BTC to PM doesn't sound good along with 50 USD minimum limit.

[pcoin]

The website appears to be legit though i am yet to try them but when i checked https://paybis.com/buy-perfectmoney-with-paypal i discovered that verification is required however it is not stated the type of verification process.
I will give them a try this week and post my review on how it all goes.
I forgot to add that they have a good support for customers.

[OmegaStarScream]

The website appears to be legit though i am yet to try them but when i checked https://paybis.com/buy-perfectmoney-with-paypal i discovered that verification is required however it is not stated the type of verification process.
I will give them a try this week and post my review on how it all goes.
I forgot to add that they have a good support for customers.

I asked a few questions the support as well, they are very good. As for the verification, when you are the one spending bitcoin (or other irreversible payment method) a verification is not needed but when you are the one using PayPal or something else reversible then a verification is required. Keep us updated please!

[criddler]

I use it to transfer BTC to Paypal, arround 500usd, fees are little high 5-10% and they change them very often .. i saw three difference fees (5%, 8%, 10%) for just previous week.

Transfer was made just fine, no problems, i recieved money on PayPal right after BTC transaction was confirmed.

[dedocry]

did anybody use this exchange?
especially to buy crypto using neteller or skrill?

[OmegaStarScream]

did anybody use this exchange?
especially to buy crypto using neteller or skrill?

I have used them multiple times during the last few weeks (for selling my BTC to Skrill) and I had nothing but good, fast and smooth transactions, I recommend using them.

[Murat]

I have used them multiple times during the last few weeks (for selling my BTC to Skrill) and I had nothing but good, fast and smooth transactions, I recommend using them.

I tried to exchange BTC to skrill. My first transaction went through fast and fees was 1%(Paybis) .5% (Skrill) and now I tried to trade again but this time fees showing 10%? I tried to order the same amount. How much you paid them in fees?

[bL4nkcode]

and now I tried to trade again but this time fees showing 10%? I tried to order the same amount.

10%? seriously, that's ridiculous fees they have. Is there any warning or fix fees mentioned on the page? or they just randomly set the fees?

[Murat]

10%? seriously, that's ridiculous fees they have. Is there any warning or fix fees mentioned on the page? or they just randomly set the fees?

[OmegaStarScream]

I started using some time ago and back then, the fees were 0.95%. I've just checked my recent transaction and they were either 4.95% or 2.95% but never as high as 10%. I've never paid attention to it, to be honest, but and now you're mentioning it, it's very possible that the fees change automatically based on bitcoin's price or some other criteria.

I've tried to make an exchange now, and the fees showing are 1.95% (USD). If you change to EUR or GBP however, you'll see that the fees are increasing to 2.95% and 9.95% which is very strange.

Something I've missed apparently and that's worth mentioning is that they started forcing KYC, so If you're against that, you might want to rethink about using them.

[tokensdex]

Anyone used this site recently?

[jerry0]

Could I convert my Neteller USD (Gambling Funds) into btc or any crypto on this site and withdraw that crypto to my own wallet?  If so, do you need any KYC or not?  And what are the fees for this?

[logfiles]

Could I convert my Neteller USD (Gambling Funds) into btc or any crypto on this site and withdraw that crypto to my own wallet?  If so, do you need any KYC or not?  And what are the fees for this?

Surely you can, but obviously you have to undergo KYC verification.
Read their Anti Money Laundering and KYC policy - https://paybis.com/policies/aml/

Commission for such a conversion is between 4-5%. Check out the site for details
You can also find other alternatives on BestChange.com - https://www.bestchange.com/neteller-to-bitcoin.html

[jerry0]

Thanks for that information.  Okay that makes sense for them to do KYC for neteller since well they have to make sure those are your neteller funds and are legit.


But is there any issue if you are a US Citizen though with a US passport with a neteller account?  The reason why I could use neteller is because I'm abroad basically all year and outside the US and have a utility bill in my name so I used that as my verification documents years ago and neteller was okay with that.  Thus i use those neteller funds to deposit into gambling sites and then withdraw back to neteller.  Then when i want to trade these neteller funds for US funds, I have few people that would trade their zelle/boa for my neteller.  But right now not much people need neteller so i want a way to convert it to crypto at least.



That conversion fee is quite expensive.  I did read neteller recently allowed you to withdraw your crypto funds to your own wallet but its mentions its only 8 countries only. Does anyone know what countries those are?  Because if they allowed all countries, then obviously i wouldn't need to do this and could just convert neteller to btc and withdraw it to my own wallet.

[GbitG]

Thanks for that information.  Okay that makes sense for them to do KYC for neteller since well they have to make sure those are your neteller funds and are legit.


But is there any issue if you are a US Citizen though with a US passport with a neteller account?  The reason why I could use neteller is because I'm abroad basically all year and outside the US and have a utility bill in my name so I used that as my verification documents years ago and neteller was okay with that.  Thus i use those neteller funds to deposit into gambling sites and then withdraw back to neteller.  Then when i want to trade these neteller funds for US funds, I have few people that would trade their zelle/boa for my neteller.  But right now not much people need neteller so i want a way to convert it to crypto at least.



That conversion fee is quite expensive.  I did read neteller recently allowed you to withdraw your crypto funds to your own wallet but its mentions its only 8 countries only. Does anyone know what countries those are?  Because if they allowed all countries, then obviously i wouldn't need to do this and could just convert neteller to btc and withdraw it to my own wallet.

@jerry0 Before doing any exchange read all details about them, it's much better for you and your funds because they have list of restricted countries and US states, another thing fees is very high which is also concerned for many.
If you have Neteller funds and want to exchange them for bitcoin or USDT I am also waiting for this exchange please post here, maybe we are able to help each other in this case.

[jerry0]

I took a look at the FAQ on paybis but it doesn't mention anything about no US citizens allowed etc.  It just says you need to have identification sent in.


So wanted to know if anyone has experience on this.


Yes I have neteller funds that are USD.  Again I usually trade it for someone else's zelle/Boa but the issue is lately the people i traded with have not needed it.  These are ppl who i traded with for a while etc.  Okay so you want to have neteller USD?  Do you normally need it?

[GbitG]

I took a look at the FAQ on paybis but it doesn't mention anything about no US citizens allowed etc.  It just says you need to have identification sent in.


So wanted to know if anyone has experience on this.


Yes I have neteller funds that are USD.  Again I usually trade it for someone else's zelle/Boa but the issue is lately the people i traded with have not needed it.  These are ppl who i traded with for a while etc.  Okay so you want to have neteller USD?  Do you normally need it?

I normally need this just want to clear when you are able to send please send me message here, so I will be ready for this exchange if you agree, thanks for your reply.

[OmegaStarScream]

@jerry0

AFAIK, and as I said in a previous post a few months ago, it should be okay to exchange gambling funds. I would still suggest you read the TOS though, just to be safe.

I couldn't find anything on Neteller's official website but according to this article, the crypto-withdrawal service is only available for 10 countries, including the UK, Chile, Canada, and Australia. The rest of the countries hasn't been mentioned but I still doubt that the U.S is among them.

An alternative to Neteller withdrawal service or CEXes would be to just exchange with other individuals. If you're not willing to verify your identity, then the currency exchange board or localCryptos is the way to go. When doing so, I suggest you be transparent about the source of the funds, as some people can be against it as well.

[ratas]

The source of funds will be always a problem , when we talk about receive in wallets such paypal,neteller or skrill,


Can put us in a danger position, and funds and the account frozen, sometimes for investigation.  Many cases of this was happenned in Brazil around 3 years ago, when the wallets was banned fron sportbooks and casino, and was made some kind of "private services" to contouring this.


Its all about trust and feeling i guest,

But he walks from topic in topic looking for the best "rates" can be a good indicator for the legitimacy of the funds.


My 2 cents