Drunk driving

[myrkul]

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A "free market" that accepts violence as the means of competition isn't free, or a market.

Call it an evolutionary soup then.  Just like slow gazelles get eaten by jaguars and thus gazelles are evolved for speed, non-state societies fell apart or were conquered and modern societies evolved for security and stability.  Even if you don't like it, that's how evolution works.  A gazelle does not get to say to a jaguar "No violence please" does it?

Nope, but they do have some nasty horns... And I thought we were discussing drunk driving? If you'd like to have a discussion about whether we should model our societies on the law of the jungle or laws of man, you can start a new thread, or move the discussion over to this one, but we're far off-topic here.

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[Hawker]

You are right myrkul.

Laws to ban drunk driving are a good idea in my opinion and society is well justified in using violence and imprisonment if needed to deter it.  Of course others disagee so having said my bit, I'll shut up and let the thread go back on topic.

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A "free market" that accepts violence as the means of competition isn't free, or a market.

Call it an evolutionary soup then.  Just like slow gazelles get eaten by jaguars and thus gazelles are evolved for speed, non-state societies fell apart or were conquered and modern societies evolved for security and stability.  Even if you don't like it, that's how evolution works.  A gazelle does not get to say to a jaguar "No violence please" does it?

Nope, but they do have some nasty horns...

A gazelle's horns evolved exclusively for the purposes of applying 'violence' within their social groupings, by the way.  They have nothing to do with defense against jaguars.

[myrkul]

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A "free market" that accepts violence as the means of competition isn't free, or a market.

Call it an evolutionary soup then.  Just like slow gazelles get eaten by jaguars and thus gazelles are evolved for speed, non-state societies fell apart or were conquered and modern societies evolved for security and stability.  Even if you don't like it, that's how evolution works.  A gazelle does not get to say to a jaguar "No violence please" does it?

Nope, but they do have some nasty horns...

A gazelle's horns evolved exclusively for the purposes of applying 'violence' within their social groupings, by the way.  They have nothing to do with defense against jaguars.

Good thing I'm not a gazelle then, hmm?

[DobZombie]

All I have to say on this topic is if ANYBODY drives drunk, I hope they crash and kill themselves.

I know too many people that have been hurt/killed by somebody deciding they were okay to drive home drunk.