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Question: Do you think user franky1 is shilling for profit?
yes - 28 (56%)
no - 20 (40%)
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April 18, 2017, 01:54:12 AM
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So, blah, blah, blah Core/Blockstream/SegWit sucks and Bitcoin Unlimited is the savior

do you honestly think your posts (I can't even call them arguments) will be persuasive to any miner reading this?



Unlike you, I don't get paid to post, I do it for the lols so I don't care what anyone thinks. I'm not trying to convince anyone of anything unlike you and your shill buddies.

I just like to point out the bullshit shills as a public service  Grin

I think Alex might be right... you must have a low IQ if you think my Paybis signature has anything to do with supporting Satoshi Nakamoto over Adam-stab-you-in-the-back and one meg Greg.



Shills going to shill until they can't and then they resort to name calling smh..

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April 18, 2017, 01:56:48 AM
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care to rebut the flaws of the bitcoin technicals.
or poke many bears with insults until the bears bite back and then you pretend to be a victim of attack


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April 18, 2017, 01:56:58 AM
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Frankly1 is the biggest paid shill here and Jonald is just a 15 years old noob crying for his lolypop.
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April 18, 2017, 01:57:14 AM
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Adam-stab-you-in-the-back and one meg Greg.



Shills going to shill until they can't and then they resort to name calling smh..

Did Adam not stab the community in the back by renegging on the Hong Kong agreement?

Did Greg not reject every scaling proposal (even segwit + 2MB) ?
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its funny how hard you guys are trying now...
must mean the truth is getting out...
and Blockstream is getting terrified.


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April 18, 2017, 02:10:01 AM
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Frankly1 is the biggest paid shill here and Jonald is just a 15 years old noob crying for his lolypop.

i earnd my bitcoin years ago from the good old trading days of 2012-2013 when the volitility was amazing.
i spend my time exploring countries and now and again getting businesses involved in bitcoin

i dont get any income from businesses for sponsorship or for my opinion. i am self sufficient and enjoying life. it gives me the freedom to do as i like and say what i like and actually research what i like.

if people spent more time researching and understanding bitcoin they would see passed the ass kissing drama. its time people stop kissing the temporary devs asses and started thinking about the 120+ years of bitcoin as a decentralised diverse consensus network.

so ask yourselves (without google or reddit scripts):
1. how many implementations are on the bitcoin network
2. how many implementations would you want there to be

this will guide you into realising how centralised / decentralised your mindset is

next
ask yourself (without google or reddit scripts):
1. what would you do when blockstream move onto another coin like hyperledger, litecoin, monero, zcash or ethereum
2. would you follow bitcoin or blockstream.

this will guide you into realising if you care about bitcoin or blockstream

next
really let it sink in
bitcoin can last 120+ years. devs can move on for many different reasons (boredom, personal reasons, retirement, employment changes)
which do you really care about most

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April 18, 2017, 03:19:03 AM
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Yep, he is as shill as they come, besides a bad one - he is shilling very rough and achieves only    
opposite result, people start to loathe him and what he shills for (BTU)
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April 18, 2017, 03:36:49 AM
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Your signature implies that you are the shill Roll Eyes

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April 18, 2017, 03:41:00 AM
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I would not know.  But franky1 has answered varios questions from me when I was a NOOB, showed some decency (as have many others here).

Many shills would not do that, it's typically not part of their M.O.

So, even in ignorance, I voted "No".
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April 18, 2017, 04:00:39 AM
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I would not know.  But franky1 has answered varios questions from me when I was a NOOB, showed some decency (as have many others here).

Many shills would not do that, it's typically not part of their M.O.

So, even in ignorance, I voted "No".

That's cool.

Can I ask why you are ignorant of the issues?  You're a legendary member. 

I am not judging you, but I want to understand generally why there's a lack of information or clarity.

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April 18, 2017, 04:06:47 AM
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I would not know.  But franky1 has answered varios questions from me when I was a NOOB, showed some decency (as have many others here).

Many shills would not do that, it's typically not part of their M.O.

So, even in ignorance, I voted "No".

That's cool.

Can I ask why you are ignorant of the issues?  You're a legendary member.  

I am not judging you, but I want to understand generally why there's a lack of information or clarity.


My skills in programming (etc.) are essentially non-existent, my comments re SW vs. BU are not really informed ones as an example (other than saying that these assholes ought to put their EGOS away and solve the various scaling issues plaguing Bitcoin).  Oh, and while they're at it, they should think ahead as to when BTC traffic rises substantially again, so we don't go through all the drama yet again...

Most of my commenting here at bitcointalk is about finance and a fair amount on privacy and the whole encryption (etc.) set of issues.  It's hard for an outsider like me to know everything...

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April 18, 2017, 04:46:00 AM
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I would not know.  But franky1 has answered varios questions from me when I was a NOOB, showed some decency (as have many others here).

Many shills would not do that, it's typically not part of their M.O.

So, even in ignorance, I voted "No".

That's cool.

Can I ask why you are ignorant of the issues?  You're a legendary member. 

I am not judging you, but I want to understand generally why there's a lack of information or clarity.

Legendary used to mean much more than it does nowadays though, people have been arguing for a higher rank level. Some of the legendaries are just old gambling/trading site promotion accounts that now use their reputation to shut down arguments (cough tradefortress cough)
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April 18, 2017, 05:04:42 AM
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No, I disagree with him plenty, but he's not a shill. I'd say a shill is going to be someone largely ignorant who posts like they are reading from a script. That's not Franky1 whatever your perspective on the Core/BU debate, SW, etc.

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April 18, 2017, 06:14:36 AM
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Yes, it is quite obvious something is a bit fishy with him and his alter ego jonald_fyookball. They are tag teaming all BU vs Bitcoin Core related threads and countering all SegWit and LN arguments. I have no problem with people giving the other side of the argument, but if they are paid to do just that, I might have a problem with that.

We will never know if they are getting paid to shill for BU, but the concentration on specific Segwit related posts seem to indicate that some shilling might be going on.  ^hmmmmmm^

Everyone have a right to express their opinion, so I personally give them the benefit of the doubt, with a pinch of doubt.

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April 18, 2017, 06:35:08 AM
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Franky1 is legendary, he's got his own topic.  Wink

If the 'shill' poll follows a similar pattern to segwit/blockstream support polls, I think we should have a poll on how many people engage in their own critical thinking.

People can always try to refute his comments. Perhaps someone could point out where he has misunderstood the code?

People have different ideas. Even Luke Jr was against the removal of coin age from the reference* miners transaction priority code.

*Miners clearly modify the transaction priority code. I had another 1 sat/byte high coin age transaction confirmed, this time by GBMiners (previous transaction of a similar type had been confirmed by BitFury and BW.com). It was confirmed in 3 blocks. The first 2 blocks mined before it were not full despite outstanding transactions, antpool and f2pool the culprits.

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April 18, 2017, 07:19:53 AM
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Yes, it is quite obvious something is a bit fishy with him and his alter ego jonald_fyookball. They are tag teaming all BU vs Bitcoin Core related threads and countering all SegWit and LN arguments. I have no problem with people giving the other side of the argument, but if they are paid to do just that, I might have a problem with that.

We will never know if they are getting paid to shill for BU, but the concentration on specific Segwit related posts seem to indicate that some shilling might be going on.  ^hmmmmmm^

Everyone have a right to express their opinion, so I personally give them the benefit of the doubt, with a pinch of doubt.

i dont need an alter ego. my opinion is big enough that i only need one name to spread my opinion. i dont need no fake games of making 20 accounts

my passion is for bitcoin, the decentralised and diverse consensus network.
if there is obvious threat like someone trying to slide in code without node consensus (blockstream(cores) going soft approach) then im not gonna sit in the corner and be quiet about it.

yes there are a dozen other implementations that exist. even blockstream KNOTS. but even though its a Luke JR invention. he is not trying to slide his code in under the consensus radar and strangely he is not actually trying to hide its faults. he has made his knots blindingly obvious to not meet community actual desire but ticked the minimal requirements of a twisted logic attempt of something he agreed to do

other implementations like bitcoinj, ruby, go, xt, classic, bu, and many others are not trying to slide in half gestures using soft back door methods either. yes my opinion about blockstream(core) is strong. but thats because their pushing it and 99% of people dont know the fine details of what they are pushing. all they do is see an objection that they cannot refute. so the end the topic and create a new topic to respam the half gesture sales pitch as an avoidance technique. hence my opinion keeps appearing on many threads of the same topic.



separately and off the topic of segwit i have made comments tips hints and spread idea's about things not segwit..
i have helped get businesses to set up bitcoin acceptance. helped many understand bitcoin properly, i have done alot of things that can be helpful..
i just dont brag about it in every post. hence why most of my posts just sound like all i talk about is the current flaws of a big change to bitcoin (segwit).

i can feel many itching to ask 'what ideas opinions, etc have i done thats not segwit related topic'.. off the top of my head

EG next gen hardware wallet as a smartwatch that sends only signed tx via rfid. (to match visacards/applepay 'touchless' technology/functionality) instead of waffly addresses/qr codes

EG new priority fee formulae that does a better job than the old formulae

EG how to really reduce quadratics risk without trying to 'promise' fixes that cant be achieved unless moving 46milion outputs

i can feel many itching to troll that now im bragging. yet i mention them like once here. not every post every day..

but what i find most interesting is that 99% of people advocating for segwit. cannot themselves actually describe how segwit will promise things after activation, in any detail.. because all they have read is the 30 second reddit scripts of half baked promises/ utopian sales pitch.

the usual replies i get are
' why should i tell you what i know or dont know'
.. insult implied to change the subject
.. shill accusation implied to change the subject
.. 'why waste 2 minutes explaining when i can insult for weeks instead

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April 18, 2017, 07:35:18 AM
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Could transaction malleability / quadratics be solved on native keys by a hard fork which changes the way transactions are constructed? Still lacking in technical depth on this issue.

Scaling and transaction rate: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=532.msg6306#msg6306
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April 18, 2017, 07:50:51 AM
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The fact that you don't agree with someones opinion does not make them a shill.

I tend to enjoy reading franky1 comments as they are usually more informative than 99% of the trash that is slung around.

How would he even manage multiple accounts when he is posting so many long, and on-topic, posts?
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April 18, 2017, 09:04:17 AM
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Could transaction malleability / quadratics be solved on native keys by a hard fork which changes the way transactions are constructed? Still lacking in technical depth on this issue.

yep

the main concern.. quadratics..
by enforcing nodes reject blocks that allow transactions to contain more than say 4k sigops per tx

as for malleability and many methods of fooling the receiver into thinking they might get paid before its confirmed.

can both be dealt with on native keys if there were the right bits of code added to new nodes via a full node+pool(hard fork) consensus upgrade of the network

sidenote: i can think of many many more ways that i can fool a receiver into thinking they are gonna get paid, whether its using RBF or child pays for parent (CPFP)..  even stuff like with new CLTV and CSV it can now be done after confirm while funds are CLTV maturing they can be CSV revoked

funny part is blockstream(core) will make quadratics issues using native keys worse (16k instead of 4k txsigops) and also
blockstream(core) made it easier to fool people into thinking they will be paid (RBF, CPFP, and CLTV+CSV and many more non malleability methods)

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April 18, 2017, 09:12:40 AM
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i understand that he could be payed to post, there are some user here that without signature earn a lot just by spamming other shit equal to what signature poster post

but is everyone which has a different idea from your a paid shill, now? i see that some members must find a reason to the fact that they are think they are always right and the other are wrong

by this logic everyone could be a paid shill here
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April 18, 2017, 09:36:20 AM
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So, discussing whether franky1 is a shill or not also part of bitcoin discussion?
But, franky1 is still better than most spammer or signature campaign user.


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