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May 22, 2017, 04:16:22 AM
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Ping.

Not much more I can do to raise hashrate further but say we're all still here mining away.

In obliquely related news it appears all the major pools have come to an agreement behind closed doors and will activate segwit. They'll be doing it on their own terms insisting on a 2MB hard fork a year later but at least it will clear the air for segwit and allow bitcoin to move on beyond this absurd stalemate.

this has been the greatest growth in marketcap ever.

and  all of the crypto coin world is thriving.

So I don't see the stalemate that you see.

But that is what starts fights between good people.

If segwit comes it will radically change the game.  Since I have a foot in the btc camp and the alt coin world I hope to survive the change.

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May 22, 2017, 04:24:56 AM
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this has been the greatest growth in marketcap ever.

and  all of the crypto coin world is thriving.

So I don't see the stalemate that you see.

But that is what starts fights between good people.

If segwit comes it will radically change the game.  Since I have a foot in the btc camp and the alt coin world I hope to survive the change.
I'm aware you're against segwit and basically feel exactly the opposite way you do about it but of course only time will tell. The stalemate I spoke of was the lack of ability of any change to be accepted. That would hurt bitcoin long term. The market capitalisation seems to be completely dissociated from what's been going on in the development space which is in itself reassuring because it means it's the economy itself that is driving value up. Nonetheless economy can go on driving the value fine, but engineering is still required to develop the network further - be that fatter, wider, more compressed, bigger, smaller, smarter, more anonymous, more features, smart contracts, whatever... The excitement regarding the huge fees from miners comes at the cost of disgust from the users at the huge fees. Leaving it as is long term is not viable. We don't really want to be in a situation where one group is antagonising the other; we're supposed to all be benefiting from the design and network.

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May 22, 2017, 04:31:37 AM
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this has been the greatest growth in marketcap ever.

and  all of the crypto coin world is thriving.

So I don't see the stalemate that you see.

But that is what starts fights between good people.

If segwit comes it will radically change the game.  Since I have a foot in the btc camp and the alt coin world I hope to survive the change.
I'm aware you're against segwit and basically feel exactly the opposite way you do about it but of course only time will tell. The stalemate I spoke of was the lack of ability of any change to be accepted. That would hurt bitcoin long term. The market capitalisation seems to be completely dissociated from what's been going on in the development space which is in itself reassuring because it means it's the economy itself that is driving value up. Nonetheless economy can go on driving the value fine, but engineering is still required to develop the network further - be that fatter, wider, more compressed, bigger, smaller, smarter, more anonymous, more features, smart contracts, whatever... The excitement regarding the huge fees from miners comes at the cost of disgust from the users at the huge fees. Leaving it as is long term is not viable. We don't really want to be in a situation where one group is antagonising the other; we're supposed to all be benefiting from the design and network.

which is why i split my choices since I view it from economical viewpoint more then a technical viewpoint.

I hope those that are all in segwit only  all or nothing  don't get burned.


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May 22, 2017, 08:15:30 AM
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Now that I've seen the draft for the agreement, it appears the segwit activation by the large pools is actually going to be their own implementation associated with a 2MB hard fork in September this year and won't even use the existing segwit bits meaning it will be incompatible with any existing bitcoin node software out there by core, BU, or anyone else. Umm....  Huh

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May 22, 2017, 11:03:53 AM
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... and won't even use the existing segwit bits...
While it's no secret that I dislike segwit, it should also be no secret that I see an adoption of segwit that isn't coded by the wonderful folks at Core as a blessing to Bitcoin itself. Much like folks stopped seeing IE as the "official" browser of the internet; there needs to come a day of reckoning where the devs either bow to the wants/wishes of the marketplace (and not the wrong way round) or they get left behind.

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May 22, 2017, 11:10:30 AM
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... and won't even use the existing segwit bits...
While it's no secret that I dislike segwit, it should also be no secret that I see an adoption of segwit that isn't coded by the wonderful folks at Core as a blessing to Bitcoin itself. Much like folks stopped seeing IE as the "official" browser of the internet; there needs to come a day of reckoning where the devs either bow to the wants/wishes of the marketplace (and not the wrong way round) or they get left behind.
Um, no, they'll be using segwit as coded by Core. They're just going to add a hard fork to it and use a different bit.

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May 22, 2017, 11:18:07 AM
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... and won't even use the existing segwit bits...
While it's no secret that I dislike segwit, it should also be no secret that I see an adoption of segwit that isn't coded by the wonderful folks at Core as a blessing to Bitcoin itself. Much like folks stopped seeing IE as the "official" browser of the internet; there needs to come a day of reckoning where the devs either bow to the wants/wishes of the marketplace (and not the wrong way round) or they get left behind.
Um, no, they'll be using segwit as coded by Core. They're just going to add a hard fork to it and use a different bit.
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May 22, 2017, 11:41:25 AM
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On a more "on topic" note:
With BTC pushing towards $2,200USD and alts not moving in the normal inverse direction, I may have to switch to 1 day on and 1 day off (instead of 2 on and one off). Bitcoin is where most of my loyalties lie, but I have to keep my main loyalty to the economics of what buys me more toys faster.

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May 22, 2017, 11:42:32 AM
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And in one fell swoop, you took me from  Grin to  Cry
Sorry. To be honest what I want more than anything else is peaceful resolution; instead things get more volatile every day. None of this seems to be hurting bitcoin value one bit, but then as I said to Phil, that's economy based, but the technology has the potential to make things a lot better... or a lot worse. Sigh.

Anyway I started a thread specifically to discuss this with a lot more detail which is only indirectly related to this pool thread here for anyone who wants to discuss the significance of it:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1928093.0

Meanwhile, let's work on slowly building that hashrate up and find a block. Looks like hoping on a big miner joining any time soon is hopeful thinking and I/we should accept that it's going to happen the hard way slowly.

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May 22, 2017, 11:44:57 AM
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On a more "on topic" note:
With BTC pushing towards $2,200USD and alts not moving in the normal inverse direction, I may have to switch to 1 day on and 1 day off (instead of 2 on and one off). Bitcoin is where most of my loyalties lie, but I have to keep my main loyalty to the economics of what buys me more toys faster.
Yeah I know. If we were finding blocks and bigger by now it wouldn't be the case...
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May 22, 2017, 12:22:05 PM
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On a more "on topic" note:
With BTC pushing towards $2,200USD and alts not moving in the normal inverse direction, I may have to switch to 1 day on and 1 day off (instead of 2 on and one off). Bitcoin is where most of my loyalties lie, but I have to keep my main loyalty to the economics of what buys me more toys faster.
Yeah I know. If we were finding blocks and bigger by now it wouldn't be the case...
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True. There will (I truly believe) come a day where the pool size will grow to the point where I can stay full-time. For most folks, there's only a marginal income difference; however, with "profit switching", numerous PoS wallets, and some auto-trade code, the income from current markets for me mining alts vs bitcoin is nearly 2:1.  Shocked

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May 22, 2017, 02:45:11 PM
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And in one fell swoop, you took me from  Grin to  Cry
Sorry. To be honest what I want more than anything else is peaceful resolution; instead things get more volatile every day. None of this seems to be hurting bitcoin value one bit, but then as I said to Phil, that's economy based, but the technology has the potential to make things a lot better... or a lot worse. Sigh.

Anyway I started a thread specifically to discuss this with a lot more detail which is only indirectly related to this pool thread here for anyone who wants to discuss the significance of it:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1928093.0

Meanwhile, let's work on slowly building that hashrate up and find a block. Looks like hoping on a big miner joining any time soon is hopeful thinking and I/we should accept that it's going to happen the hard way slowly.

I will check the thread out.

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May 23, 2017, 03:22:47 PM
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Ping.

Not much more I can do to raise hashrate further but say we're all still here mining away...
FWIW, even on my "off" days I still have one three of my LN bastardizations running @ ~ 5.1TH each. Cool
It They likes low-diff alts less than you do. Tongue

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May 23, 2017, 09:04:27 PM
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Ping.

Not much more I can do to raise hashrate further but say we're all still here mining away...
FWIW, even on my "off" days I still have one three of my LN bastardizations running @ ~ 5.1TH each. Cool
It They likes low-diff alts less than you do. Tongue
Awesome, all (asic) hashes are welcome and every little bit counts  Kiss

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May 26, 2017, 03:18:18 PM
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Is it wrong that there's a part of me that wants to get blocks and hashrate just to see the code and that it works as expected?  Tongue
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May 26, 2017, 09:48:55 PM
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Is it wrong that there's a part of me that wants to get blocks and hashrate just to see the code and that it works as expected?  Tongue
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Absolutely not, that's obviously exactly how I feel. If it makes you feel any better, no one has invested as much in this pool as I have so I have a lot on the line myself.

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May 30, 2017, 03:31:24 PM
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Come on Block, lets get cracking you and get you out the way!!

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May 31, 2017, 03:45:11 PM
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Ok added a couple of miners...lets do this!
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May 31, 2017, 08:44:38 PM
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Come on Block, lets get cracking you and get you out the way!!

Yes please Smiley

Ok added a couple of miners...lets do this!

Thanks!

There are now 129 unique users in the payout queue and 239 unique users in total. Assuming people have taken my advice of only using the one username that's a surprising number of users despite a still very modest hashrate. I'm hoping that many of those users are holding more hashrate to their name and waiting for the pool to solve its first block before adding more here. It's also good to see so many small miners anyway since the idea of the pool was to provide a haven for them where otherwise it may be impossible for them to get a payout.

Now hang in there and let's crack this.

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May 31, 2017, 09:08:48 PM
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Yes that is a lot of miners but as you say if people followed your advice that would mean a lot of SINGLE miner users right? Being a haven for the guy/gal with one gekko is the whole idea...I like it!
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