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Author Topic: ckpool.org ZERO FEE SPLNS no registration mining pool US/DE/CN  (Read 135375 times)
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May 10, 2018, 03:06:25 PM
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The home page outlines the payout method and how they're distributed. I would check that out and see if their is more direct questions that -ck or other experienced miners can answer.

My novice interpretation: If you're top 50 on the "work" page it's my impression that you will receive payout next block. Then there are differed payments from the alternating pool. Once you're shares start adding up with 3x T1's I imagine you'll be top fifty soon.
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May 10, 2018, 03:55:38 PM
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...I would think someone should have put a calculator together by now...
Here's a start (currently just pulls current stats; future estimates not yet implemented):
http://www.yourcomputergenie.com/?address=1GeniexG7MnLr9WH48jG1cPLqgGbqUsaFM
Just replace your address and it will pull your current share/reward percentages.

Because it's extremely simple, atm, (and not even close to finished) it reads as though postponed payments aren't postponed, but that will change soon; it'll be a work in progress for the next week or so (as time allows) with calculations and estimates being added in.

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May 10, 2018, 05:53:27 PM
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 Grin Thank you for your work!

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May 11, 2018, 01:16:57 AM
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In house? I hope your neighbors are far away. I just mine a mix of four units at the home otherwise I feel like there'd be a riot with pitch forks. Mostly from the wife. ..

No I have a small warehouse with a single bay mechanic shop type setup. I have a custom built huge rack that is like 8ft tall x 25ft wide and it holds over 100x rigs. I have the entire backside of the rack lined with insulation and the hot side of the  rigs pops through the insulation. The bay door is permanently raised like 4ft with a big custom metal vent along the bottom of the bay door that spans the entire width across. with 4x 42” fans up against the vent / grate to spit all of the hot air out into the atmosphere. My only neighbors are a bunch of other mechanic shops. It’s pretty damn noisy and a lot of hot air is flying out of the vent / grate. So far no complaints tho lol. Fingers crossed!!

It’s kind of like a wind tunnel type setup. It’s kind of unique I think...?
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May 11, 2018, 01:29:12 AM
Last edit: May 11, 2018, 01:43:16 AM by LoLed
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Why my derp is too low? It's only 0.00056585
DragonMint T1.
~16.1 TH/s for 3 days.
Pool shows only 14.5 TH in a day. But ASIC works on ~16.1 TH/s all these days.
On other pools my reward ~0.001 in a day.
What's wrong with this?
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May 11, 2018, 01:40:14 AM
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Why my derp is too low? It's only 0.00056585
DragonMint T1.
~16.1 TH/s for 3 days.
Pool shows only 14.5 TH in a day. But ASIC works on ~16.1 TH/s all these days.
On other pools my reward ~0.001 in a day.
What's wrong with this?

this pool requires you to stay put to get full shares.

3 days are nowhere long enough to get a full share.

we have enough hash to make 3 blocks in a month.

or a block every 10 days.  5 blocks in 50 days.

once you mine for that long your shares will be full.

3 days is 3/50 or 6%  so your shares are only 6% of what they will become.

note all of the above presumes your hash stays at 1 T1 and the pool stays around 20 ph.

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May 11, 2018, 01:46:39 AM
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3 days is 3/50 or 6%  so your shares are only 6% of what they will become.

If i stop mining now on this pool, my shares will be increased after 47 days? When the block is solved.
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May 11, 2018, 01:49:27 AM
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After being away for a while, I have pointed my 2.11 TH/s +/- at the pool again.

It's good to be back.

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May 11, 2018, 01:55:12 AM
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3 days is 3/50 or 6%  so your shares are only 6% of what they will become.

If i stop mining now on this pool, my shares will be increased after 47 days? When the block is solved.

No, your shares will NOT increase.  They will slowly decrease over time if you stop mining here.
If you stop mining for a couple days, you should still retain the shares you have mined so far, once you
come back, but they will never increase if you stop.
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May 11, 2018, 02:00:02 AM
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So... How to get FULL and Normal reward on this pool? I need to mine another 47 days to ONLY get a FAIR reward withous any bonuses?
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May 11, 2018, 02:09:47 AM
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So... How to get FULL and Normal reward on this pool? I need to mine another 47 days to ONLY get a FAIR reward withous any bonuses?

What do you mean by full and normal? From your earlier post it seems you may be used to a PPS pool. This pool is not PPS.

philipma1957 did a decent job of explaining what you might expect here.

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May 11, 2018, 02:16:11 AM
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So... How to get FULL and Normal reward on this pool? I need to mine another 47 days to ONLY get a FAIR reward withous any bonuses?

What do you mean by full and normal? From your earlier post it seems you may be used to a PPS pool. This pool is not PPS.

philipma1957 did a decent job of explaining what you might expect here.


Thanks for the answers.
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May 11, 2018, 02:29:50 AM
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i definitely dont quite understand it. i have had about 740th here for a little over a week. my derp got up to .20 in less than a week. and it has pretty much stayed right around there. i recently upped my power to 950th and for the last 3days my derp has stayed right around .22  normally i was getting .06 per day. so 10days wouldve put me at about .60 instead im only at .22 (and i recently was paid .20 when we hit a block)  but even with that im at 33% less than what i would normally make within this time frame.

i messaged CK awhile ago asking about the payment setup of this pool and i didnt quite understand it so i stayed away. then i seen them find 2x blocks in 1day and looking at everybody's payouts i seen that they all made great money in comparison to their hashrates. i realized if i would've been mining there for awhile previously i wouldve made nearly double in that 1day than what i wouldve made mining at slushpool for a month.

all i know is that there are a lot of people in this pool that are alot smarter than i am and they all rave about the pool....  wetsuit is here with his 2ph, halong mining is here with their 20ph and among a ton of other smart people....  if they are all pointing their rigs here then OBVIOUSLY there is some great about this pool.

im not quite smart enough to understand the payout yet but im putting my faith in these others kind words. id rather be here now and get in early than regret it later (like i already did when they found the two blocks)
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May 11, 2018, 02:54:08 AM
Last edit: May 11, 2018, 03:04:46 AM by philipma1957
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It is not hard to explain on a YouTube video with visual props.

It is harder to explain writing on a post format.

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May 11, 2018, 03:36:15 AM
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It is not hard to explain on a YouTube video with visual props.

It is harder to explain writing on a post format.


I think he is basically asking what is the current ramp up time?
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May 11, 2018, 03:43:14 AM
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It is not hard to explain on a YouTube video with visual props.

It is harder to explain writing on a post format.

there wouldnt happen to be a youtube video explaining it by chance huh? lol

im not even so concerned with understanding it anymore. im just letting my 1ph of power roll in good faith  Grin
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May 11, 2018, 03:44:41 AM
Merited by puntpasskick (1)
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Here is a simple explainer on how HERP and DERP works.

HERP is ckpool.org's equivalent of conventional PPLNS's "last N shares." HERP exists on two levels: at the pool level and at the individual level.

At the pool level, HERP is the pool's total tally of miners' shares at any given point in time. All shares are weighted by their respective difficulty values. In other words, a share with a higher difficulty value occupies a greater proportion of the pool's tally of shares compared to a share with a lower difficulty value. In contrast, conventional PPLNS does not take into account the difficulty value of each share.

At the individual level, HERP is your own tally of difficulty-weighted shares within the pool's total tally.

The N value used by ckpool.org is 5 x (the current Bitcoin network difficulty value). For example, the Bitcoin network's difficulty value currently stands at 4,143,878,474,754.19 — as of block 522147. Therefore, ckpool.org will keep a rolling tally of up to 20,719,392,373,770.95 difficulty-weighted shares. When the pool's tally of difficulty-weighted shares reaches that limit, new shares will constantly replace the oldest shares to keep the total tally at 20,719,392,373,770.95 difficulty-weighted shares.

DERP is the proportion of your individual-level HERP compared to the pool-level HERP, and this is what determines your actual payout amount. Your DERP value may be found by dividing your individual-level HERP by the pool-level HERP.

In other words, your DERP is determined by how many of those 20,719,392,373,770.95 difficulty-weighted shares belong to you. The greater the proportion of individual-level HERP you have out of the pool-level HERP, the greater your payout amount will be. For example, if at this point in time, you have accumulated your own individual-level HERP of 21,000,000,000, then your DERP would be 21,000,000,000 / 20,719,392,373,770.95 = 0.00101354.

You are paid only at the exact moment the pool finds a block, with your payout amount being your DERP at that particular moment in time.

I hope this helps to clear up some of the confusion regarding HERP and DERP.
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May 11, 2018, 12:07:27 PM
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It is not hard to explain on a YouTube video with visual props.

It is harder to explain writing on a post format.


I think he is basically asking what is the current ramp up time?

about 50 days

ramp up  time is 5x  a 100% block  a 100% block is about 4,200,000,000,000 shares

our pool does that in about 10 days

so  if the first 10 days of mining you are ramping up from 0 to 20%
the 10 to 20 day time period you are ramping up from 20 to 40%  of a full share
the 20 to 30 day time period you are ramping up from 40 to 60% of a full share
the 30 to 40 day time period you are ramping up from 60 to 80% of a full share
the 40 to 50 day time period you are ramping up from 80 to 100% of a full share.

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May 11, 2018, 01:45:01 PM
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At the time of this posting:
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Current Difficulty Needed: 4,143,878,474,754

     Pool 5 min: 12.9P

     Estimated time between blocks: 15 days, 23 hours, 14 min, 57 sec

     Estimated time for new miner to hit full 5N: 79 days, 20 hours, 14 min, 46 sec

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May 11, 2018, 04:29:47 PM
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At the time of this posting:
Code:
Current Difficulty Needed: 4,143,878,474,754

     Pool 5 min: 12.9P

     Estimated time between blocks: 15 days, 23 hours, 14 min, 57 sec

     Estimated time for new miner to hit full 5N: 79 days, 20 hours, 14 min, 46 sec

My apologies if this is a elementary question.
Doesn't the formula above vary according to the hashing power of the miner?
Are all miners created equal is another way to ask?
What is the baseline processing / hashing the formula is based off of?
Thank you in advance.
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