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June 25, 2018, 11:19:49 PM |
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Understood and Thanks!
I've been switching around between the two pools up to this point.....
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minefarmbuy
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June 25, 2018, 11:39:22 PM |
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Very small outfit here, newbie Mining with an Antminer V9 running at 3T/hs because I'm on 110v (891w) I run this between 7pm and 7am because the electricity rate is less than half (6.5 cents) Between 7am and 7pm I run my Gekkoscience gear at 88G/hs The purpose being to maintain but not add to the value of previous work done I have noticed herp starts running down. Is there a minimum hash rate in order to maintain my standing until the Antminer is turned back on at 7pm? Thanks in advance  12 hours at 3th + 12 hours at 88gh = a 24 average of 1.544th. that is about 48 cents a day or about 0.00007646 a day so you will drop when you are on the usb sticks. you would average 1.50 if you just mine the v9 for 12 hours. if I were you I would mine the v9 for 12 hours here and mine the usb sticks on solo ck pool. not here. Why the solo pool for the sticks? isn't finding a block with 88Gh pretty improbable? (Not arguing, just asking). Looks like Halong had add some more hash again. 50ph to almost 80 now. Should speed us up by a day. |
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ComputerGenie
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June 26, 2018, 12:45:16 AM |
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...Why the solo pool for the sticks? isn't finding a block with 88Gh pretty improbable? (Not arguing, just asking)...
Because you're looking at maybe $3-4 a year in earnings (profit is less than that), so your better bet is to gamble and maybe get ultra lucky (in theory, every hash has an equal chance of being a block solver). |
If you have to ask "why?", you wouldn`t understand my answer.
Always be on the look out, because you never know when you'll be stalked by hit-men that eat nothing but cream cheese....
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philipma1957
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June 26, 2018, 12:58:13 AM |
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...Why the solo pool for the sticks? isn't finding a block with 88Gh pretty improbable? (Not arguing, just asking)...
Because you're looking at maybe $3-4 a year in earnings (profit is less than that), so your better bet is to gamble and maybe get ultra lucky (in theory, every hash has an equal chance of being a block solver). this and the v9 does 3th vs 88gh for the sticks. so he makes a steady amount with the v9 maybe 125 in a year after power cost. and if he gets lucky with the sticks he does amazing. |
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minefarmbuy
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June 26, 2018, 01:28:26 AM |
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Thanks to you both. They ordered some sticks here from gekko and said I could have them after tech support gets familiar.  |
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June 26, 2018, 02:56:03 AM |
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CK, what do you need to start a 'Small Cap' pool? 100TH or less as a user? This would do Two things. 1) Keep the Bitcoin cause alive for decentralization. 2) Keep the little guy feeling like he is not being whipsawed by drop in whalers.
Just a thought.
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June 26, 2018, 02:59:31 AM |
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CK, what do you need to start a 'Small Cap' pool? 100TH or less as a user? This would do Two things. 1) Keep the Bitcoin cause alive for decentralization. 2) Keep the little guy feeling like he is not being whipsawed by drop in whalers.
Just a thought.
This pool IS the small cap pool. What do you want, to make the pool even smaller? The big miners here do NOT adversely affect you; I dunno why people get that impression. They only help. |
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June 26, 2018, 03:06:32 AM |
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If you submit 253874951744 shares out of 25387495174395, then you get paid for 253874951744 shares out of 25387495174395 and it doesn't matter if the other 25133620222651 shares come from 1 miner, 1 farm, 100 miners, 100 farms, or 100000 USB sticks.
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If you have to ask "why?", you wouldn`t understand my answer.
Always be on the look out, because you never know when you'll be stalked by hit-men that eat nothing but cream cheese....
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June 26, 2018, 03:07:40 AM |
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Understood. However when a group of miners hop on that doubles plus our hashrate and all is good us regular peeps don't know how long they are going to hang around. Agreed while the fish are biting it is great but there is no way to plan or budget for a major swing and draw down that results. I prefer stability with slow growth of a pool where I can plan as opposed to wild west we may have a big gun slinger pop in. (But for how long)
Not a pool complaint. Just a pool discussion for consideration.
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June 26, 2018, 03:10:13 AM |
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If you submit 253874951744 shares out of 25387495174395, then you get paid for 253874951744 shares out of 25387495174395 and it doesn't matter if the other 25133620222651 shares come from 1 miner, 1 farm, 100 miners, 100 farms, or 100000 USB sticks.
Understood. Thanks |
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June 26, 2018, 03:15:23 AM |
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Understood. However when a group of miners hop on that doubles plus our hashrate and all is good us regular peeps don't know how long they are going to hang around...
Why does it matter? Lets pretend you would earn 0.11 BTC per month... How do you imagine your life changing if you get: 30 payments of 0.00366667 or 15 payments of 0.00733334 or 1 payment of 0.11 0.11=0.11 |
If you have to ask "why?", you wouldn`t understand my answer.
Always be on the look out, because you never know when you'll be stalked by hit-men that eat nothing but cream cheese....
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philipma1957
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June 26, 2018, 03:18:23 AM |
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If you submit 253874951744 shares out of 25387495174395, then you get paid for 253874951744 shares out of 25387495174395 and it doesn't matter if the other 25133620222651 shares come from 1 miner, 1 farm, 100 miners, 100 farms, or 100000 USB sticks.
Understood. Thanks complex as to guessing if they should be here and are helpful or harmful, but I rather have them around. Did they help us when they were at 200ph not really as the luck they had was so so. But luck is like that.. At cpgenie . they had so so luck when they where at 200 ph. my number dropped from 0.0400 btc to 0.0076 btc. And I don think they hit enough blocks to make up for the drop. not saying that is bad just saying that is what happened. now if the had whaled and drop us from 105% to 95% I would say cool I scored. but all pools have this issue. the only pools that my t1's can mine at with pps is f2pool and I think they charge 4% or 3%. As for what I want the pool % to be 1% to 2% would be 400ph to 800ph that works for me. |
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June 26, 2018, 03:23:46 AM |
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Understood. However when a group of miners hop on that doubles plus our hashrate and all is good us regular peeps don't know how long they are going to hang around...
Why does it matter? Lets pretend you would earn 0.11 BTC per month... How do you imagine your life changing if you get: 30 payments of 0.00366667 or 15 payments of 0.00733334 or 1 payment of 0.11 0.11=0.11 Stability allows for recurring expectation of payment timing. That is all. I am not questioning size of payout. But there is a difference in getting X amount in xdays and X amount in x+?days. That's all. Not questioning the payout integrity. Sorry, this may be my OCD kicking in but I like stability for planning purposes. |
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philipma1957
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June 26, 2018, 03:25:39 AM |
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Understood. However when a group of miners hop on that doubles plus our hashrate and all is good us regular peeps don't know how long they are going to hang around...
Why does it matter? Lets pretend you would earn 0.11 BTC per month... How do you imagine your life changing if you get: 30 payments of 0.00366667 or 15 payments of 0.00733334 or 1 payment of 0.11 0.11=0.11 Stability allows for recurring expectation of payment timing. That is all. I am not questioning size of payout. But there is a difference in getting X amount in xdays and X amount in x+?days. That's all. Not questioning the payout integrity. Sorry, this may be my OCD kicking in but I like stability for planning purposes. well there is zero stability in that here. we could do back to back 900% blocks which would be 2 blocks vs 18 blocks or we could do back to back to belly 33% blocks which would be 3 vs 1 block. if you want stable f2pool is what you want. |
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June 26, 2018, 04:47:51 AM |
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Understood. However when a group of miners hop on that doubles plus our hashrate and all is good us regular peeps don't know how long they are going to hang around...
Why does it matter? Lets pretend you would earn 0.11 BTC per month... How do you imagine your life changing if you get: 30 payments of 0.00366667 or 15 payments of 0.00733334 or 1 payment of 0.11 0.11=0.11 ... I am not questioning size of payout. But there is a difference in getting X amount in xdays and X amount in x+?days... These 2 sentences are at odds with each other. Again, I ask recouched in your terms "How do you imagine your life changing if you get: 30 payments of 1x or 15 payments of 2x or 1 payment of 30x?" at the end of 30 days, you're getting 30x, 30x, or 30x ...I like stability for planning purposes.
plan on getting the same amount in 30 days that you earn in 30 days |
If you have to ask "why?", you wouldn`t understand my answer.
Always be on the look out, because you never know when you'll be stalked by hit-men that eat nothing but cream cheese....
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June 26, 2018, 11:37:57 AM |
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Got it. Understood. Thanks
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minefarmbuy
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June 26, 2018, 04:59:33 PM
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The pool is consistent and growing steadily, since I've been here say for a very "lean" April. It's hard when whales come in but luck is luck and still other miners are joining to. Regardless the system here is one hash = one hash.
Also I've got some Winderlea 2011 Pinot Noir for our next double block day (work gift). Hope it's soon!
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June 26, 2018, 07:52:13 PM |
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Understood. However when a group of miners hop on that doubles plus our hashrate and all is good us regular peeps don't know how long they are going to hang around...
Why does it matter? Lets pretend you would earn 0.11 BTC per month... How do you imagine your life changing if you get: 30 payments of 0.00366667 or 15 payments of 0.00733334 or 1 payment of 0.11 0.11=0.11 1 payment of .11 is the best, less transaction fees when you send |
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June 26, 2018, 08:00:37 PM |
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Understood. However when a group of miners hop on that doubles plus our hashrate and all is good us regular peeps don't know how long they are going to hang around...
Why does it matter? Lets pretend you would earn 0.11 BTC per month... How do you imagine your life changing if you get: 30 payments of 0.00366667 or 15 payments of 0.00733334 or 1 payment of 0.11 0.11=0.11 1 payment of .11 is the best, less transaction fees when you send Not if you're sending multiple payments of 0.00366667 spread out over multiple days  But I do give Bozo Bonus Points for trying to be witty.  |
If you have to ask "why?", you wouldn`t understand my answer.
Always be on the look out, because you never know when you'll be stalked by hit-men that eat nothing but cream cheese....
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minefarmbuy
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June 26, 2018, 09:25:09 PM
Last edit: June 27, 2018, 12:10:56 AM by minefarmbuy |
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S9i is arriving tomorrow, which mean I actually have to NOT work remotely . ...
Not planting anything today but digging out a fire pit and weeding. Maybe a maintenance day will help a block find?
Edit for context: they delivered it to the office not my home.
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