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July 14, 2019, 05:47:06 PM
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The problems with Italian football are present not just because of their defensive mentality. I don't think that mentality will ever change, that is what makes them what they are.
The problems are in the infrastructure and the stadiums. Italian stadiums are old and unattractive. They look like huge concrete prisons and not a place where you want to bring your family to enjoy a football match. Italian clubs don't own their stadiums, except Juventus. They rent them from the city.
 
What has worsened the situation is the fact that a few matches into the season, people already know who the winner of the league is going to be. If you are not a Juventus fan. This totally makes the league suck.
Even with the defensive mentality, Italian Football was quite interesting in the early 2000s. AC Milan was impressive in Europe too.

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July 14, 2019, 06:12:41 PM
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The problems with Italian football are present not just because of their defensive mentality. I don't think that mentality will ever change, that is what makes them what they are.
The problems are in the infrastructure and the stadiums. Italian stadiums are old and unattractive. They look like huge concrete prisons and not a place where you want to bring your family to enjoy a football match. Italian clubs don't own their stadiums, except Juventus. They rent them from the city.

Then there is the problem with fake merchandise that is being sold close to the stadiums which is actually unbelievable in the first place.
The President of Napoli talked about this when fans asked him why he doesn't invest more like Juventus does with Ronaldo. He told the fans they need to change their 'cheating' mentality and support the club instead. Stop manufacturing and distributing fake Napoli shirts and instead buy the official merchandise from the club. He also mentioned that Napoli fans are paying off the stewards who are checking the tickets to let them in for free.

There are so many things that need to change for Italian football to again be competitive. 

That I have to agree with you but you cannot really generalize all Italian teams being left behind by their other European counterparts. Some of the top teams have really good training facilities and they have one of the most world class youth development facilities to date. And since I know A.C. Milan more I'll be talking about their recent moves with regards to their infrastructure. Aside from A.C. Milan having Casa Milan as their training facility Milan and Inter both agreed that they'll be constructing a new stadium to replace San Siro as their Home and I think that's a big start for two Serie A teams in the league.

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July 14, 2019, 08:40:05 PM
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The problems with Italian football are present not just because of their defensive mentality. I don't think that mentality will ever change, that is what makes them what they are.
The problems are in the infrastructure and the stadiums. Italian stadiums are old and unattractive. They look like huge concrete prisons and not a place where you want to bring your family to enjoy a football match. Italian clubs don't own their stadiums, except Juventus. They rent them from the city.

Then there is the problem with fake merchandise that is being sold close to the stadiums which is actually unbelievable in the first place.
The President of Napoli talked about this when fans asked him why he doesn't invest more like Juventus does with Ronaldo. He told the fans they need to change their 'cheating' mentality and support the club instead. Stop manufacturing and distributing fake Napoli shirts and instead buy the official merchandise from the club. He also mentioned that Napoli fans are paying off the stewards who are checking the tickets to let them in for free.

There are so many things that need to change for Italian football to again be competitive. 

That I have to agree with you but you cannot really generalize all Italian teams being left behind by their other European counterparts. Some of the top teams have really good training facilities and they have one of the most world class youth development facilities to date. And since I know A.C. Milan more I'll be talking about their recent moves with regards to their infrastructure. Aside from A.C. Milan having Casa Milan as their training facility Milan and Inter both agreed that they'll be constructing a new stadium to replace San Siro as their Home and I think that's a big start for two Serie A teams in the league.

Do you know, it's called San Siro when AC Milan play, next week, when Inter come here, the same stadium was called Giuseppe Meazza. So, two clubs, same field and two names. Is it normal? Just think what it will be if Man. United and Man. City play on the same ground or Liverpool and Everton to share one stadium. No way.

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July 14, 2019, 08:53:49 PM
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Do you know, it's called San Siro when AC Milan play, next week, when Inter come here, the same stadium was called Giuseppe Meazza. So, two clubs, same field and two names. Is it normal? Just think what it will be if Man. United and Man. City play on the same ground or Liverpool and Everton to share one stadium. No way.
I guess it's part of their history and heritage and they wanted to keep it that way.
AC Milan and Inter Milan are very successful clubs compared to so many clubs in the top 5 leagues in Europe. I don't think they would have failed to have a stadium of their own each.



In other news, Griezmann has been given Shirt Number 17. I guess the Coutinho Exit romour will die off for now since his number is intact.


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July 14, 2019, 10:10:08 PM
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So Barca is posting Griezmann but Atletico refused the Payment, this will be fun.






Take a look at this, is this how a stadium should look?



Stadiums are a problem but this is not teams fault.

Many and many teams want to build their new stadium, (Milan Inter Roma and more) but they can't since they have a longs loan agreement with the propriety of the stadium.

Also if they ask to build a new stadium, they need to buy the land to build it (streets and other utilities) but the owner of the lands is the owner of the old stadium and ofcourse it will not sell the land to eath from the plate.

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July 15, 2019, 08:20:57 AM
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Do you know, it's called San Siro when AC Milan play, next week, when Inter come here, the same stadium was called Giuseppe Meazza. So, two clubs, same field and two names. Is it normal? Just think what it will be if Man. United and Man. City play on the same ground or Liverpool and Everton to share one stadium. No way.
The name of the stadium is actually Giuseppe Meazza. Meazza was a renowned Inter Milan player and the stadium bears his name.
San Siro is a district of the city of Milan where the stadium is located. So when you see the name San Siro it is actually the part of town where the stadium is located. Milan just prefers to call it San Siro and not Giuseppe Meazza because it is a reference to a rival player and club (Inter Milan).

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July 15, 2019, 12:16:49 PM
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So Barca is posting Griezmann but Atletico refused the Payment, this will be fun.



That wouldn't be another case of the 'insiders' getting excitement over nothing would it?  Wink  Cos it's already a done deal as far as Barca is concerned.

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July 15, 2019, 01:21:54 PM
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That wouldn't be another case of the 'insiders' getting excitement over nothing would it?  Wink  Cos it's already a done deal as far as Barca is concerned.

I haven't followed this case but this is a noce from normal papers

Maybe I lost something somewhere

https://www.gazzetta.it/Calcio/Estero/12-07-2019/barca-annuncia-griezmann-ma-l-atletico-rifiuta-120-milioni-insufficienti-340807528720.shtml


Edit this is the official statement, since it is official it has legal validity in court https://www.atleticodemadrid.com/noticias/comunicado-oficial-7

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Antoine Griezmann, representado por su abogado, ha comparecido en la sede de la Liga de Fútbol Profesional para rescindir unilateralmente el contrato que vincula al jugador con el Atlético de Madrid, habiendo depositado el Fútbol Club Barcelona en nombre y por cuenta del futbolista la cantidad de 120 millones de euros.

El Atlético de Madrid considera que la cantidad depositada es insuficiente para hacer frente a su cláusula de rescisión, puesto que es obvio que el compromiso del jugador y del Fútbol Club Barcelona se cerró antes de que la citada cláusula se redujera de 200 a 120 millones de euros. También fue anterior a la fecha en la que se produjo la modificación de la cláusula la comunicación que el jugador realizó el 14 de mayo anunciando su desvinculación del club.

El Atlético de Madrid cree que la extinción del contrato se produjo antes de la finalización de la pasada temporada por hechos, actos y manifestaciones realizadas por el jugador y por ello ha iniciado ya los procedimientos que ha considerado oportunos para la defensa de sus derechos e intereses legítimos.

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July 15, 2019, 01:26:25 PM
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Serie A is nothing compared to its former glory and AC Milan are no longer a formidable club.  Serie A is trumped by La Liga, Bundesliga, and the EPL by a wide margin.  I might even put the French league over Serie A at this point.
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July 15, 2019, 05:33:13 PM
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Serie A is nothing compared to its former glory and AC Milan are no longer a formidable club.  Serie A is trumped by La Liga, Bundesliga, and the EPL by a wide margin.  I might even put the French league over Serie A at this point.

Juventus are a really good team but I’ve often thought the fact Serie A being fairly weak is a disadvantage to Juve. It’s like PSG with the French league, both Juve & PSG don’t enough of a test week in, week out & it has a negative impact on their CL challenges. They’re not used to playing great teams so when they come across them in the latter stages of the CL they’re not prepared.

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That I have to agree with you but you cannot really generalize all Italian teams being left behind by their other European counterparts. Some of the top teams have really good training facilities and they have one of the most world class youth development facilities to date. And since I know A.C. Milan more I'll be talking about their recent moves with regards to their infrastructure. Aside from A.C. Milan having Casa Milan as their training facility Milan and Inter both agreed that they'll be constructing a new stadium to replace San Siro as their Home and I think that's a big start for two Serie A teams in the league.

Do you know, it's called San Siro when AC Milan play, next week, when Inter come here, the same stadium was called Giuseppe Meazza. So, two clubs, same field and two names. Is it normal? Just think what it will be if Man. United and Man. City play on the same ground or Liverpool and Everton to share one stadium. No way.

Like I said I am a Milan fan and this kind of little detail is not left unnoticed yes I know they play home and away and vice versa at one stadium that's why they call it Derby di Milano every time they face each other San Siro for Milan fans and Giuseppe Meazza for Inter fans. On the rumors of the new stadium it was first reported that Milan (not Inter) will be leaving San Siro but with the recent news it looks like Inter have agreed that they'll be also sharing the same stadium as Milan again maybe because of financial reasons so still in the future Derby de Milano will be played in one Milan stadium again.

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Serie A is nothing compared to its former glory and AC Milan are no longer a formidable club.  Serie A is trumped by La Liga, Bundesliga, and the EPL by a wide margin.  I might even put the French league over Serie A at this point.

Juventus are a really good team but I’ve often thought the fact Serie A being fairly weak is a disadvantage to Juve. It’s like PSG with the French league, both Juve & PSG don’t enough of a test week in, week out & it has a negative impact on their CL challenges. They’re not used to playing great teams so when they come across them in the latter stages of the CL they’re not prepared.

This year can be harder for Juventus, Inter and Napoli got a good reinforcements so far.

Let's see if they will buy more new players.

Inter needs a Good number 9, also Napoli needs a new one, their defences are better than last year with

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Serie A is nothing compared to its former glory and AC Milan are no longer a formidable club.  Serie A is trumped by La Liga, Bundesliga, and the EPL by a wide margin.  I might even put the French league over Serie A at this point.
But you must see now. That Serie A is a league that is very much awaited every game. I can't think you put the French league above the Italian league. The French league is very easy to predict. Because the tough club is only PSG, Monaco, Lyon. That means the possibility of a champion next season is among the ones I mentioned.
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Today finally should be the day for DeLigt @Turin and tomorrow should be the day for medical stuffs.

https://www.gazzetta.it/Calcio/Serie-A/15-07-2019/de-ligt-supemercato-olandese-super-mercato-juventus-340901441442.shtml


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Serie A is nothing compared to its former glory and AC Milan are no longer a formidable club.  Serie A is trumped by La Liga, Bundesliga, and the EPL by a wide margin.  I might even put the French league over Serie A at this point.
But you must see now. That Serie A is a league that is very much awaited every game. I can't think you put the French league above the Italian league. The French league is very easy to predict. Because the tough club is only PSG, Monaco, Lyon. That means the possibility of a champion next season is among the ones I mentioned.

But everyone league is dominated by only a few teams, that is just the nature of a game without a salary cap.  The rich clubs will dominate like we have seen in La Liga essentially being a 2 horse race every year.  And all the seasons the big four dominated Premier League until rich owners came in and brought Manchester City to the top.  And of course you have flukes like Leicester City that will never have a sustained dominance.
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Today finally should be the day for DeLigt @Turin and tomorrow should be the day for medical stuffs.

https://www.gazzetta.it/Calcio/Serie-A/15-07-2019/de-ligt-supemercato-olandese-super-mercato-juventus-340901441442.shtml



Shit, De Ligt looks young off the pitch man. He’s got the potential to be brilliant. For that fee & the wages he’ll need to deliver immediately though.

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Today finally should be the day for DeLigt @Turin and tomorrow should be the day for medical stuffs.
Finally, this saga will come to and end.


Some stuff going on today:

• Sebastien Haller (Eintracht Frankfurt) to West Ham done deal[1]. Deal could be around €45M.
• Tottenham are keen on Gareth Bale. They're willing to offer around 50M-60M, but they can't afford Bale's wages so they'd need the player to accept a pay cut.
• Barcelona are close to signing Junior Firpo (Real Betis). For those who don't know him, he was part of the the U21 Spain squad who won the 2019 U21 Euro. This guy is the perfect replacement for Alba.
• Dani Ceballos (Real Madrid) close to signing with Arsenal. The Gunners are also interested in Everton (Grêmio), the brazilian sensation of the last Copa America.
• Atletico Madrid joins Napoli in the race for James Rodriguez.

1. https://twitter.com/Eintracht/status/1151045147196571649

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July 16, 2019, 01:48:14 PM
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Serie A is nothing compared to its former glory and AC Milan are no longer a formidable club.  Serie A is trumped by La Liga, Bundesliga, and the EPL by a wide margin.  I might even put the French league over Serie A at this point.
But you must see now. That Serie A is a league that is very much awaited every game. I can't think you put the French league above the Italian league. The French league is very easy to predict. Because the tough club is only PSG, Monaco, Lyon. That means the possibility of a champion next season is among the ones I mentioned.

They might have lost their popularity over the past but you cannot say that they will be in the 4th or 5th place in the coefficients forever. Still Juventus is carrying the whole league showing a consistent presence in the 4 and 8 place in the Champions League each season. With Ronaldo playing in the league it serves as a wake up call for the other teams to start rebuilding and I can see a lot of teams having a lot of transfers now this early in the transfer window. Don't worry Serie A will catch up to the other leagues.

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July 16, 2019, 02:23:46 PM
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Today finally should be the day for DeLigt @Turin and tomorrow should be the day for medical stuffs.

https://www.gazzetta.it/Calcio/Serie-A/15-07-2019/de-ligt-supemercato-olandese-super-mercato-juventus-340901441442.shtml



Shit, De Ligt looks young off the pitch man. He’s got the potential to be brilliant. For that fee & the wages he’ll need to deliver immediately though.
Let's hope that the pressure doesn't get to him too much especially when he is going to play alongside some of the best defences in the entire world.

 
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July 16, 2019, 02:36:32 PM
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Serie A is nothing compared to its former glory and AC Milan are no longer a formidable club.  Serie A is trumped by La Liga, Bundesliga, and the EPL by a wide margin.  I might even put the French league over Serie A at this point.
But you must see now. That Serie A is a league that is very much awaited every game. I can't think you put the French league above the Italian league. The French league is very easy to predict. Because the tough club is only PSG, Monaco, Lyon. That means the possibility of a champion next season is among the ones I mentioned.

But everyone league is dominated by only a few teams, that is just the nature of a game without a salary cap.  The rich clubs will dominate like we have seen in La Liga essentially being a 2 horse race every year.  And all the seasons the big four dominated Premier League until rich owners came in and brought Manchester City to the top.  And of course you have flukes like Leicester City that will never have a sustained dominance.

I agree, today money is everything.
Still, look at Paris sG for example.
So much money invested and still they couldn't make some big result in champions league.
With money owners can buy the best players, like Neymar, but still they can't buy result.
For success and concrete results much more is needed.
Another example is Atlético Madrid, less money but more determination and hard work can bring success and result, even in competition with Real and Barcelona.

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