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July 22, 2019, 03:13:53 PM
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Do you football guys consider Ronaldo or Messi to be the greatest of all time?  I think messi tends to get overrated because people love that he is a short guy underdog while Ronaldo is a physical beast.
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July 22, 2019, 03:35:26 PM
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Do you football guys consider Ronaldo or Messi to be the greatest of all time?  I think messi tends to get overrated because people love that he is a short guy underdog while Ronaldo is a physical beast.
They're among the GOAT. And no, Messi is not overrated, anyone saying that clearly doesn't understand anything about this sport and should probably consider watching Golf or Cricket rather than Football.


Oh boy, seems like Spurs are ready to make some signings: https://www.dailystar.co.uk/sport/football/793388/Tottenham-transfer-news-Giovani-Lo-Celso-Ryan-Sessegnon-deals-latest

80M for both of them is a steal, IMO. The argentinian is already a NT player, and Sesegnon is among the best english young talents.

And it seems that, if Lo Celso leaves Real Betis, the spaniards will sign Fekir (Lyon) which according to some rumours it's already a done deal.

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July 22, 2019, 03:40:37 PM
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Do you football guys consider Ronaldo or Messi to be the greatest of all time?  I think messi tends to get overrated because people love that he is a short guy underdog while Ronaldo is a physical beast.

They’re both fantastic players, we won’t see anybody else like them for a long time. There’s no right or wrong answer on who is the best, they both have different qualities & strengths.

Zidane & Ronaldinho were amazing too but different. Maradona & Pele etc.

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July 22, 2019, 04:35:37 PM
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Do you football guys consider Ronaldo or Messi to be the greatest of all time?  I think messi tends to get overrated because people love that he is a short guy underdog while Ronaldo is a physical beast.

In my opinion, Ronaldo is the greatest player.
Considering how they did in their national teams, Messi haven't won any trophy with Argentina, while Ronaldo has won Euro and Portugal is competitive in every tournament.
I have a feeling that Ronaldo is going to retire in a later age after getting transferred to a club in China.

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July 22, 2019, 09:52:50 PM
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Do you football guys consider Ronaldo or Messi to be the greatest of all time?  I think messi tends to get overrated because people love that he is a short guy underdog while Ronaldo is a physical beast.

Maybe it can be said yes. But Ronaldo and Messi are certainly very different if they are said to be the greatest players of all time. Because Messi is just great on the Barcelona team. While Ronaldo has played in several leagues, that is what distinguishes Ronaldo and Messi if they are said to be the greatest of all time.

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July 23, 2019, 06:25:40 AM
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Ronaldo is stronger & better in the air, he’s possibly a better finisher but Messi is the better all round footballer. It depends what you want. They've both been truly amazing players.

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July 23, 2019, 07:51:58 AM
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Do you football guys consider Ronaldo or Messi to be the greatest of all time?  I think messi tends to get overrated because people love that he is a short guy underdog while Ronaldo is a physical beast.
these two players are great players I like both and on some points I really like Cristiano Ronaldo because he is a typical person who trains massively for his abilities but that does not reduce my respect for Messi he is also a very agile player.




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July 23, 2019, 09:01:58 AM
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Do you football guys consider Ronaldo or Messi to be the greatest of all time?  I think messi tends to get overrated because people love that he is a short guy underdog while Ronaldo is a physical beast.
these two players are great players I like both and on some points I really like Cristiano Ronaldo because he is a typical person who trains massively for his abilities but that does not reduce my respect for Messi he is also a very agile player.

For agility you or we could say that is probably the best fitted player today for his age. He play like he has 25 years not 34, also his stamina is awesome. Both play on top of the game but some new kids will take those places eventually.
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Do you football guys consider Ronaldo or Messi to be the greatest of all time?  I think messi tends to get overrated because people love that he is a short guy underdog while Ronaldo is a physical beast.
Ronaldo is a hard worker, even at the age of 34 he is thinking of ways to improve physically. Messi has more talent, the ball gets stuck to his feet. The way he understands the movements of the opposition is unbelievable.

If you are looking at overall work rate and training - Ronaldo is the winner.
In terms of share talent and vision - Messi is better.

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July 23, 2019, 10:44:36 AM
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Do you football guys consider Ronaldo or Messi to be the greatest of all time?  I think messi tends to get overrated because people love that he is a short guy underdog while Ronaldo is a physical beast.
these two players are great players I like both and on some points I really like Cristiano Ronaldo because he is a typical person who trains massively for his abilities but that does not reduce my respect for Messi he is also a very agile player.

For agility you or we could say that is probably the best fitted player today for his age. He play like he has 25 years not 34, also his stamina is awesome. Both play on top of the game but some new kids will take those places eventually.
So we can conclude actually that these two players are indeed the best players of all time. These two players have different abilities and disadvantages. For individuals, maybe Messi is the greatest and for a duel in the air, perhaps Ronaldo is the greatest. So, we have to admit that these two players are really great.

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July 23, 2019, 11:19:48 AM
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Do you football guys consider Ronaldo or Messi to be the greatest of all time?  I think messi tends to get overrated because people love that he is a short guy underdog while Ronaldo is a physical beast.
these two players are great players I like both and on some points I really like Cristiano Ronaldo because he is a typical person who trains massively for his abilities but that does not reduce my respect for Messi he is also a very agile player.

For agility you or we could say that is probably the best fitted player today for his age. He play like he has 25 years not 34, also his stamina is awesome. Both play on top of the game but some new kids will take those places eventually.
sometimes I think who will be the replacement for Ronaldo & messi when they both retire, I think there will be 2 players made by the media to become rivals so that football coverage is always crowded.




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July 23, 2019, 01:14:27 PM
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Nabil Fekir has joined Betis from Lyon. Several sources report that it is done and transfermarkt has already added him to the Betis team.
I am surprised that Lyon let him go for a fee of just over $20 million. He is valued at almost $70 million on transfermarkt. A really good acquisition by Betis.
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July 23, 2019, 01:31:45 PM
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Do you football guys consider Ronaldo or Messi to be the greatest of all time?  I think messi tends to get overrated because people love that he is a short guy underdog while Ronaldo is a physical beast.
Ronaldo is a hard worker, even at the age of 34 he is thinking of ways to improve physically. Messi has more talent, the ball gets stuck to his feet. The way he understands the movements of the opposition is unbelievable.

If you are looking at overall work rate and training - Ronaldo is the winner.
In terms of share talent and vision - Messi is better.

I think Messi is the 2nd greatest player of all time and Cristiano Ronaldo is the greatest.  Legends like Pele and Maradona get overrated and they would never be able to compete at the level of athletes today with how physically fit they are.
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July 23, 2019, 02:02:42 PM
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Gareth Bale is a transfer target of Beijing according to some reports. Clubs from China are well known for offering big wages so I dont think there would be any problems in the money department. But I still feel he has more to offer in Europe and accepting a move to China would be too soon in his career.

If he goes to China then expect Real to go after Pogba (YES!!!).  But if I was Bale, I'd give Zidane a huge headache by not leaving and keep the bench warm from three years while receiving top wages.  Grin  Zidane's been disrespecting him imo.

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July 23, 2019, 03:02:30 PM
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If he goes to China then expect Real to go after Pogba (YES!!!).  But if I was Bale, I'd give Zidane a huge headache by not leaving and keep the bench warm from three years while receiving top wages.  Grin  Zidane's been disrespecting him imo.

They still need to seel more players, Even if they sell Bale for 100M they will go at -88.

Now if you add 150M for Pogba to it they will go to -238M €.

They need to sell more 3/4 big players to be even for the financial fair play



A small rumor about Juve-Pogba, during the deal for the DeLigt, Raiola talked with Juventus for another Pogback, The players seem to agree with it and Juventus will try to take him, the problem is to talk with the ManU.

I remember to you all that the contract with Pogba-ManU will expire in 23 months and after that, he can go for free.

Does ManU want really keep him against his will and lose 100+ million in less than 2 years?

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July 23, 2019, 03:33:11 PM
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Gareth Bale is a transfer target of Beijing according to some reports. Clubs from China are well known for offering big wages so I dont think there would be any problems in the money department. But I still feel he has more to offer in Europe and accepting a move to China would be too soon in his career.

If he goes to China then expect Real to go after Pogba (YES!!!).  But if I was Bale, I'd give Zidane a huge headache by not leaving and keep the bench warm from three years while receiving top wages.  Grin  Zidane's been disrespecting him imo.

That's not an option for a top class player like Bale.
Their goal is to find a team that would allow him to play and be a member of the first team and not just being on the bench and get paid. Just not that football players are not getting only wages but they have a significant income from sponsorships. And if you are not playing regularly you don't get any sponsorship.

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July 23, 2019, 03:39:31 PM
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Gareth Bale is a transfer target of Beijing according to some reports. Clubs from China are well known for offering big wages so I dont think there would be any problems in the money department. But I still feel he has more to offer in Europe and accepting a move to China would be too soon in his career.

If he goes to China then expect Real to go after Pogba (YES!!!).  But if I was Bale, I'd give Zidane a huge headache by not leaving and keep the bench warm from three years while receiving top wages.  Grin  Zidane's been disrespecting him imo.

That's not an option for a top class player like Bale.
Their goal is to find a team that would allow him to play and be a member of the first team and not just being on the bench and get paid. Just not that football players are not getting only wages but they have a significant income from sponsorships. And if you are not playing regularly you don't get any sponsorship.

There's money in China but you'll just be lost from the media buzz and soon people would forget you. Similar is USA or middle east.
There's no use of staying in Real as Zidane doesn't want Bale to be there. There have been suggestions that Liverpool should buy Bale, this would be the best option for him and Liverpool too would become stronger.



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July 23, 2019, 03:44:43 PM
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Gareth Bale is a transfer target of Beijing according to some reports. Clubs from China are well known for offering big wages so I dont think there would be any problems in the money department. But I still feel he has more to offer in Europe and accepting a move to China would be too soon in his career.

If he goes to China then expect Real to go after Pogba (YES!!!).  But if I was Bale, I'd give Zidane a huge headache by not leaving and keep the bench warm from three years while receiving top wages.  Grin  Zidane's been disrespecting him imo.

That's not an option for a top class player like Bale.
Their goal is to find a team that would allow him to play and be a member of the first team and not just being on the bench and get paid. Just not that football players are not getting only wages but they have a significant income from sponsorships. And if you are not playing regularly you don't get any sponsorship.

There's money in China but you'll just be lost from the media buzz and soon people would forget you. Similar is USA or middle east.
There's no use of staying in Real as Zidane doesn't want Bale to be there. There have been suggestions that Liverpool should buy Bale, this would be the best option for him and Liverpool too would become stronger.

I agree that Liverpool is the best option for him as he will be in a European club that challenges all competitions.
Staying on the bench in Real is the worst option.. And also, I don't think that he will be lost from the media if he joins a Chinese club. I still read a lot of things about the performance of Zlatan Ibrahimovic and he is the first headlines in news even the fact that he is in an MLS club.

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July 23, 2019, 05:08:44 PM
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Gareth Bale is a transfer target of Beijing according to some reports. Clubs from China are well known for offering big wages so I dont think there would be any problems in the money department. But I still feel he has more to offer in Europe and accepting a move to China would be too soon in his career.

If he goes to China then expect Real to go after Pogba (YES!!!).  But if I was Bale, I'd give Zidane a huge headache by not leaving and keep the bench warm from three years while receiving top wages.  Grin  Zidane's been disrespecting him imo.

That's not an option for a top class player like Bale.
Their goal is to find a team that would allow him to play and be a member of the first team and not just being on the bench and get paid. Just not that football players are not getting only wages but they have a significant income from sponsorships. And if you are not playing regularly you don't get any sponsorship.

I doubt Bale actually cares much about his playing time for now, If he does then he'd want out of Real Madrid too ASAP, but that's not the case with him, he's literally calm about the whole saga. 

He's Agent just said in an Interview that "Bale will not leave on loan, and would only be on the move if a suitable offer presents itself".

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July 23, 2019, 05:09:56 PM
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Do you football guys consider Ronaldo or Messi to be the greatest of all time?  I think messi tends to get overrated because people love that he is a short guy underdog while Ronaldo is a physical beast.
Ronaldo is a hard worker, even at the age of 34 he is thinking of ways to improve physically. Messi has more talent, the ball gets stuck to his feet. The way he understands the movements of the opposition is unbelievable.

If you are looking at overall work rate and training - Ronaldo is the winner.
In terms of share talent and vision - Messi is better.

I think Messi is the 2nd greatest player of all time and Cristiano Ronaldo is the greatest.  Legends like Pele and Maradona get overrated and they would never be able to compete at the level of athletes today with how physically fit they are.
The two players are good and wonderful in the field of play but I don't see Ronaldo are the greatest player as you said. However, the two players speak through football in varieties way and if we are talking about the greatest player such player must be someone who can shape a match into something else (alone) which Messi had such capacity.
Speaking of the legend footballers you mentioned above, I don't see any reason why they are overrated because they are the one the led the path for Messi, Ronaldo etc, by creating dribbling strategy which was modernized by Messi and the rest today.

Any news about Neymar transfer deal?

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