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December 02, 2025, 05:25:06 AM
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The market price is still quite ideal, but is Real Madrid willing to let go of this player because if you look at Camavinga, he has the ability to play in several positions such as defensive midfielder, attacking midfielder or as a winger.
I don't really think that's the case here because in my own opinion, their is nothing special about camavinga, it's true that he can play in several positions, but those positions he features in, was he exceptional? No.
He is like a Jake of all trade and a master of none, and even in midfield, he doesn't looks exceptional when playing, so if real Madrid decides to sell him off now, he might struggle to see another top club in the level of real Madrid to come for his signature because their is nothing special about him, no disrespect to him.
So what am trying to say is that if he leaves real Madrid now, he wouldn't be that missed, as long as his replacement is an upgrade and a player more better than him.

 
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December 02, 2025, 05:36:20 AM
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Is that all Camaboy costs? I don't think so, and Madrid won't react to an offer like this for a player like Camavinga.

It’s important to note that Camavinga’s role at Madrid is quite flexible, as he can be deployed in various positions. Whether as an attacking midfielder, defensive midfielder, leftback or even as a winger he adapts quickly. Madrid wouldn’t let go of such talent in their squad, especially at such a low price.

While this might still be a significant amount for a young player, it doesn’t compare to the purchases Madrid has made in the past or what he has already contributed.
I think this is just another rumor circulating about Madrid players following the recent buzz around Vini.

Based on information from transfermarkt Eduardo Camavinga market value is around 50 Million so if the offer is 60 million I think that's still ideal, as for whether Real Madrid agrees or not we don't know what is clear is that Real Madrid is not a team that prioritizes money I mean they would definitely keep the player if needed. But don't forget that sometimes Real Madrid has a lot of players including on the bench so they could release some players if they have 2-3 players for the same position.
So far there has been no development regarding this rumor. Judging from Real Madrid's current situation, Xabi Alonso desperately needs midfielders like Modric, Toni Kroos, Xabi Hernandez, and Iniesta who possess good vision and passing accuracy to control the tempo of the game. Real Madrid has plans to find a midfielder who fits Xabi needs in the winter transfer market, perhaps an offer from Liverpool could be considered to bring in a new midfielder.

Real Madrid performance has continued to decline in recent matches due to an uncoordinated midfield, making it difficult for them to maintain the rhythm of the game. Real Madrid still desperately needs Camavinga, but the club can't refuse a lucrative offer, especially as management is keen to bring in a new midfielder in the winter transfer window.
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December 02, 2025, 05:41:00 AM
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For me I don’t think there is actually any truth coming from this article, this is just simply like a list of players that plays regularly under Alonso and those players that do not actually get those minutes and this two are said to be those against him or for him. Yes i can say that there is players that would definitely not be fan of his football this could even be a player who gets minutes under him but wouldn’t appreciates the new responsibility that is given to him from the manager. All this list of players not liking him cannot actually influence any decision or believe that the club already have for him as long as he continues to win matches but with the current form of which he is dropping points this is when such lack of support by the players can actually influences the club hierarchy decisions
It's simple bro. The players who are selected to start every match are always happy with the coach because who will not be happy when they have gotten to play all the time. When you play all the time in full time on a club like Madrid it shows how good you are and the level of opportunities you will be most likely exposed to. But the ones who are sitting on the bench like Endrick and Mendy are definitely not going to be happy with the coach right now. Endrick has almost no time or minutes to play as we speak there. I suggest they should just lease him out on a loan and as for Mendy, they should just give him aaway for free and even say thank you in addition... Lol

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December 02, 2025, 05:48:33 AM
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https://x.com/DeadlineDayLive/status/1993209813329678602
I came across an interesting tweet that showed a list of players who were happy and unhappy with Xabi Alonso. I don't know if it's true or not, but it makes sense Vinicius is obvious, Rodrygo is also not getting minutes and Endrick is even worse not getting a chance. Give us your thoughts on this, maybe we can share a bit about what's really going on behind the scenes on this hot issue. Because lately the news I find is always about player and coach feuds.
Which camp is Perez worth defending?
I don't know why Federico Valverde in the list unhappy players under Xabi Alonso because he played regular indeed not at his original position holding midfielder. Alonso make many rotation and several key players last season from Rodrygo has loss regular position and make him unhappy current condition nowadays, I can't imagine with Endrick as top young players last season always get minutes playing although as substitute but this season never play any one minutes yet in La Liga or Champion League.

Florentino Perez likely still defend Alonso as Madrid head coach without any warning yet although last several matches Madrid not played well, maybe some unhappy player under Alonso will move at the winter transfer window maybe Rodrygo or Endrick.
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December 02, 2025, 06:24:13 AM
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Erik ten Hag made wrong signatures no doubt and I am here to put to you that Zirkzee a player with top qualities,  good with the touch, link up play and drop deeply to help Manchester United midfielders. This is the chance for him to clear the doubts of too many pessimistic about his qualities and stay in the club. The next game against West Ham will see him playing well too, even scoring a goal to seal his place over Sesko not completely ready. I do not encourage the loan, they should get other positions for now like a defender and defensive midfielder.


Erik Ten Hag made quite good decisions and also bad ones that cost the club heavy loss and also himself losing the managerial role at Old Trafford. This is never the intent of the manager because he really fought hard to to maintain this role. Manchester United can do more things and explore more under Ruben Amorim regime but what's stopping them? It's the exact same hurdle that prevented Erik Ten Hag from prospering and becoming successful in the end.

Talked about Joshua Zirkzee, he's a brilliant tall agile player for the club. Although he's yet to prove his worth to the club but it does mean he can fly with outstanding qualities and becoming a better player for the club. Manchester United will decide if to keep him or let him go next summer.
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December 02, 2025, 06:27:11 AM
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Is that all Camaboy costs? I don't think so, and Madrid won't react to an offer like this for a player like Camavinga.

It’s important to note that Camavinga’s role at Madrid is quite flexible, as he can be deployed in various positions. Whether as an attacking midfielder, defensive midfielder, leftback or even as a winger he adapts quickly. Madrid wouldn’t let go of such talent in their squad, especially at such a low price.

While this might still be a significant amount for a young player, it doesn’t compare to the purchases Madrid has made in the past or what he has already contributed.
I think this is just another rumor circulating about Madrid players following the recent buzz around Vini.

I don't believe this rumor of Madrid willing to sell Camavinga and it not worth debating,  because I don't see Madrid selling him any time soon. Camavinga is a young and intelligent player and I don't see Real Madrid selling him for any price right now and the price that has been mentioned just made it clear that this is just a rumor and he can never be sold anytime soon. I will be surprised if he is sold, because I see him as part of the present and the future of the team. He is just a wonderful player and I really like watching him, and it will be a very big miss if they let him go, although I think this is just a rumor and Camavinga will still be a Real Madrid player for many years.

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December 02, 2025, 06:38:07 AM
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I don't know why Federico Valverde in the list unhappy players under Xabi Alonso because he played regular indeed not at his original position holding midfielder.
It seems that Xabi's coaching style hasn't made many coaches happy. It's surprising, but letting Valverde go is a stupid decision. Who will replace him? There isn't anyone balanced enough at the moment. Maybe the media is just taking advantage of news about a possibly bad relationship with Xabi. I just read that Valverde indeed had a disagreement with Xabi. Valverde is 27 years old and he is still a main choice for Madrid. There are reports that Man United is ready to buy him for €80 million. But reportedly Madrid wants more money, around €100 million. Is that possible?


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December 02, 2025, 06:50:15 AM
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Manchester United? The best transfer for them but not the player.  Grin
Hopefully it's just a passing fad and I'm worried that if Vinicius goes to Manchester United, it's like throwing his fate into the wind. That's unlikely and Madrid won't let him go either. In fact under Xabi, Vinicius movement isn't as free as it was under Ancelotti, but that shouldn't deter him. If he lets his ego down and follows the coach's wishes, he proved yesterday that he can be a dangerous partner alongside Mbappé in the opposition defense.

I also hope that would just stay as a rumour.  Tongue  Watching Vinicius Junior at Manchester United would feel weird. I mean considering the current quality of their squad. Manchester City or Liverpool would be a much better place for him in case of leaving.





This is another transfer rumour related to Liverpool. Camavinga would be a really great addition to their midfield honestly. But would Real Madrid like to let him go that easy? I doubt that...

By the way how is Camavinga's market value is €50m while it is €100m for Alexis Mac Allister? Camavinga is playing much better.


If sold for 50 million euros, Real Madrid would already make a profit, because Real Madrid bought Eduardo Camavinga from Rennes for only 31 million euros. If sold for 100 million euros, it wouldn't sell; only a joke club that likes to joke around like Manchester United would want to buy at a joking price. Many players at Real Madrid were idle during the Xabi Alonso era. For example, Endrick, a young player bought by Real Madrid from Palmeiras for 47 million euros, rarely plays, not even as a substitute. He hasn't played in 5 matches. He played once as a substitute when Real Madrid thrashed Valencia, and that was only for 12 minutes. Many Madrid players want to be sold, including Endrick, Rodrygo, Vinicius, coincidentally all Brazilian players.

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This is another transfer rumour related to Liverpool. Camavinga would be a really great addition to their midfield honestly. But would Real Madrid like to let him go that easy? I doubt that...

By the way how is Camavinga's market value is €50m while it is €100m for Alexis Mac Allister? Camavinga is playing much better.
Is that all Camaboy costs? I don't think so, and Madrid won't react to an offer like this for a player like Camavinga.

It’s important to note that Camavinga’s role at Madrid is quite flexible, as he can be deployed in various positions. Whether as an attacking midfielder, defensive midfielder, leftback or even as a winger he adapts quickly. Madrid wouldn’t let go of such talent in their squad, especially at such a low price.

While this might still be a significant amount for a young player, it doesn’t compare to the purchases Madrid has made in the past or what he has already contributed.
I think this is just another rumor circulating about Madrid players following the recent buzz around Vini.
Mac Allister may be valued 100 millions only for the English market that, as we all know, is highly inflated. No way any club outside of England would ever think to spend 100 million euros for Mac Allister, but not even 80 in my opinion. I really like Camavinga and I feel like a 50-60 million euro valuation is a little too low, probably around 70 is a fair price considering his age.
Mac Allister is a very fantastic player but it seems like you don’t obviously rate him at all, I think Mac Allister value is worth it, and he is a player that have won the World Cup and the Premier League a player that was nominated for the Ballon D”Or and the FIFA the best award for two years now, I don’t think it’s only for the English Market, if a player like Florian Wirtz cost 116 million euros what else could be said about Mac Allister, you don’t like Mac Allister but you like Camavinga which just shows how your preference looks like right now.
Anyways if I’m a coach and I’m signing player between Camavinga and Mac Allister I would obviously go for Mac Allister he is more of a prolific player and considering the age isn’t too much difference to be considered.

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Besides that he should need to move to Saudi Arabia side where he will met some huge money and also he will be considered the top player of the team. Al Hilal is already in a intense push to sign him. So I think if he really intending to leave the Real Madrid team then definitely Saudi Arabia would be a better place than others.

Vini is just 25 years old. I won't advise going to Saudi Arabia just yet. He can still make a name for himself in Europe. He's among the hottest stars in Europe right now, and for the right price, top teams will come for him. The RW market is scarce right now, so teams will want to get their hand on a player of Vini's quality. Even if PSG don't sign him, teams like Arsenal, Liverpool, and Manchester United might be interested. I've been watching football for a long time to know that nothing is impossible. PSG might actually try to sign Vini; a lot of things are possible in this sport.

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Besides that he should need to move to Saudi Arabia side where he will met some huge money and also he will be considered the top player of the team. Al Hilal is already in a intense push to sign him. So I think if he really intending to leave the Real Madrid team then definitely Saudi Arabia would be a better place than others.

Vini is just 25 years old. I won't advise going to Saudi Arabia just yet. He can still make a name for himself in Europe. He's among the hottest stars in Europe right now, and for the right price, top teams will come for him. The RW market is scarce right now, so teams will want to get their hand on a player of Vini's quality. Even if PSG don't sign him, teams like Arsenal, Liverpool, and Manchester United might be interested. I've been watching football for a long time to know that nothing is impossible. PSG might actually try to sign Vini; a lot of things are possible in this sport.
You are only assuming that other clubs will love to sign him. Don't you think that he will also do what he did in Real Madrid in the club that will sign him. Any club that want to sign Vini will put all that into consideration. I will be happy to see Vini leave Madrid to a different club so that, I can see how his performance will be like in the new club.

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It is quite natural for Rodrygo not to score any goal since then. Because he is literally not given a chance by Xabi Alonso anymore. At least in the starting lineup I mean. He plays for very limited time periods in games.
In this way it is obvious that he would like to leave. But where? Maybe Manchester City would be interested in him again just like they did once? It depends on whether Guardiola feels the need of a player of his profile...

You are absolutely right  Rodrygo has not scored for a while. I have noticed that he has not scored in 30 consecutive official matches for Real Madrid, which is one of the worst droughts in the clubs history. Also it is a shame for any player on the front line especially when the club and the fan expect result from his performances


On the other hand everyone is saying that he could move to City or join another team I think it is nothing more than a rumor. But I cannot deny that he is still linked with City this season. However I think he really wants to play with coach Xabi Alonso, he is fighting hard for his chance under Alonso.  So, when you say he will probably accept leaving, I actually get it. However  I am not 100 percent sold that he will leave the them now. At the moment it seem that he actually  want to stay here  and try to prove himself again. Regardless of his form his value as a young, technically gifted winger cannot keep him out of the discussions of the big club


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Vini is just 25 years old. I won't advise going to Saudi Arabia just yet. He can still make a name for himself in Europe. He's among the hottest stars in Europe right now, and for the right price, top teams will come for him. The RW market is scarce right now, so teams will want to get their hand on a player of Vini's quality. Even if PSG don't sign him, teams like Arsenal, Liverpool, and Manchester United might be interested. I've been watching football for a long time to know that nothing is impossible. PSG might actually try to sign Vini; a lot of things are possible in this sport.
Vinicious Jr missed winning the Ballon d'Or for some reason I cannot explain. He got the biggest support from most people I know, but it turned out disappointing. I don't think he has lost sight of winning that award in the near future. Moving to the Saudi Professional League will make him richer, but it will stagnate his football career. No matter the number of goals he scores in the Gulf League, it wouldn't lead to a global high rating.

Vini will remain in Madrid until a world-class club comes for him. The Sanish club might be going through a hard time this period, but it will be sorted out and they will get back to winning ways. Xabi Alonso should learn from Carlo Ancelotti how he was able to manage these superstars.       

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You are only assuming that other clubs will love to sign him. Don't you think that he will also do what he did in Real Madrid in the club that will sign him. Any club that want to sign Vini will put all that into consideration. I will be happy to see Vini leave Madrid to a different club so that, I can see how his performance will be like in the new club.

Vini is not the first player to be unhappy in a club. He is not the first player to have a fallout with a coach and other players; those who were in this situation were signed by other clubs. Vini has not behaved in any way that would make other clubs stay away from him. All he has done is overrate himself by asking for an amount Madrid are not ready to pay him, and that is normal among footballers.
If he can negotiate a reasonable salary among other clubs, they will happily sign him.
Alonso is not the first manager Vini has had, but it's the one he has had issues with, so it's not like Vini usually has issues with his managers. There is no big deal there if both parties can agree on a fee and salary.

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December 02, 2025, 01:14:04 PM
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Besides that he should need to move to Saudi Arabia side where he will met some huge money and also he will be considered the top player of the team. Al Hilal is already in a intense push to sign him. So I think if he really intending to leave the Real Madrid team then definitely Saudi Arabia would be a better place than others.

Vini is just 25 years old. I won't advise going to Saudi Arabia just yet. He can still make a name for himself in Europe. He's among the hottest stars in Europe right now, and for the right price, top teams will come for him. The RW market is scarce right now, so teams will want to get their hand on a player of Vini's quality. Even if PSG don't sign him, teams like Arsenal, Liverpool, and Manchester United might be interested. I've been watching football for a long time to know that nothing is impossible. PSG might actually try to sign Vini; a lot of things are possible in this sport.

I think Vini Jnr is just trying to force the board to increase his wage and nothing more, he loves the club and won't want to leave only timecwould tell though but I don't think he should move to the Saudi league this early, he still has lots to achieve at this age, he a very player a world best player material and if he's patient enough at Madrid there's a possibility that he'll achieve it.
 Anyways if he's made his decision final concerning leaving then he can still go to clubs like PSG, Bayern or even City if they come for him. Liverpool got players in his wing except they'll want to sell to buy him, as for PSG I'll prefer they go for Mason Greenwood than Vini Jnr cause Greenwood is already making waves in the league and would easily blend in he switch from Marseille to there.

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Erik ten Hag made wrong signatures no doubt and I am here to put to you that Zirkzee a player with top qualities,  good with the touch, link up play and drop deeply to help Manchester United midfielders. This is the chance for him to clear the doubts of too many pessimistic about his qualities and stay in the club. The next game against West Ham will see him playing well too, even scoring a goal to seal his place over Sesko not completely ready. I do not encourage the loan, they should get other positions for now like a defender and defensive midfielder.


Erik Ten Hag made quite good decisions and also bad ones that cost the club heavy loss and also himself losing the managerial role at Old Trafford. This is never the intent of the manager because he really fought hard to to maintain this role. Manchester United can do more things and explore more under Ruben Amorim regime but what's stopping them? It's the exact same hurdle that prevented Erik Ten Hag from prospering and becoming successful in the end.

Talked about Joshua Zirkzee, he's a brilliant tall agile player for the club. Although he's yet to prove his worth to the club but it does mean he can fly with outstanding qualities and becoming a better player for the club. Manchester United will decide if to keep him or let him go next summer.

Enough said, Manchester United do not want players with many potentials who want the fans to wait for a while before they can perform,  they want players who can start taking the heat and scoring consistent goals for them. Joshua Zirkzee needs to start doing that to vet the fans backing and managers backing. The squad will start playing well if he does because he is the key to be linked among the players and also to score goals. Erik ten Hag left them in a horrible place, Ruben Amorim seemed to have improved that.
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Enough said, Manchester United do not want players with many potentials who want the fans to wait for a while before they can perform,  they want players who can start taking the heat and scoring consistent goals for them. Joshua Zirkzee needs to start doing that to vet the fans backing and managers backing. The squad will start playing well if he does because he is the key to be linked among the players and also to score goals. Erik ten Hag left them in a horrible place, Ruben Amorim seemed to have improved that.
It really seems now that Amorim has started to fix the situation at Manchester United, because at first everything looked terrible. Not only were the results very bad, but several top attacking players also left the team, and it seemed that this definitely would not help the club. The only thing I completely agreed with was that they sold Onana, they should have done that even earlier.
Right now things are also not very good for Manchester United. Several draws in recent matches did not allow them to move into the top four, but they still have a chance, although it will not be easy considering who their opponents are.

 
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It is quite natural for Rodrygo not to score any goal since then. Because he is literally not given a chance by Xabi Alonso anymore. At least in the starting lineup I mean. He plays for very limited time periods in games.
In this way it is obvious that he would like to leave. But where? Maybe Manchester City would be interested in him again just like they did once? It depends on whether Guardiola feels the need of a player of his profile...

Let's us supposed if Pep sign him permanently then where he will play him like in which position he will try to used him because Manchester city already have a lot of player. Rodrigo favorite position is right wing despite Manchester City have Fill Foden. So I don't know how they will used him. Does Pep Gurodila will used him as substitute player or does he will give a chance him in X11 sheet.

Xabi Alonso didn't even give him more minutes and that's why he now agreed to leave the club. So if Pep Gurodila didn't give him a X11 sheet position then probably he won't be happy to accept the offer of Manchester City.

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December 02, 2025, 04:11:06 PM
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It is quite natural for Rodrygo not to score any goal since then. Because he is literally not given a chance by Xabi Alonso anymore. At least in the starting lineup I mean. He plays for very limited time periods in games.
In this way it is obvious that he would like to leave. But where? Maybe Manchester City would be interested in him again just like they did once? It depends on whether Guardiola feels the need of a player of his profile...

Let's us supposed if Pep sign him permanently then where he will play him like in which position he will try to used him because Manchester city already have a lot of player. Rodrigo favorite position is right wing despite Manchester City have Fill Foden. So I don't know how they will used him. Does Pep Gurodila will used him as substitute player or does he will give a chance him in X11 sheet.

Xabi Alonso didn't even give him more minutes and that's why he now agreed to leave the club. So if Pep Gurodila didn't give him a X11 sheet position then probably he won't be happy to accept the offer of Manchester City.

Rodrigo is a good player filled with great potentials, the reasons behind his limited playing time in Xabi Alonso's squad is what I can't tell, assuming enough playing was given to him I think he would have scored more goals. As for his move to Manchester city I don't think it is a welcome development except pep guadiola will be willing to consider a formation that will accommodate both Rodrigo and fill doden at the front line so he could have enough playing time at Manchester city because I don't think benching foden for Rodrigo so he could have enough playing time is not possible for now.

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December 02, 2025, 04:43:25 PM
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Rodrigo is a good player filled with great potentials, the reasons behind his limited playing time in Xabi Alonso's squad is what I can't tell, assuming enough playing was given to him I think he would have scored more goals. As for his move to Manchester city I don't think it is a welcome development except pep guadiola will be willing to consider a formation that will accommodate both Rodrigo and fill doden at the front line so he could have enough playing time at Manchester city because I don't think benching foden for Rodrigo so he could have enough playing time is not possible for now.
I see no reason why the Brazil is keen on representing Real Madrid because he have completely no use for Xabi Alonso. This is a manager that have been very fair to some players and also been very unfair to some of the players. More reasons why Endrick is been kept on the bench for so long. Alonso management doesn't favor Endrick and Rodrygo and this is certainly not working out for them. We've watch and seen Xabi Alonso privatized on his pattern and he's clueless if it affects the club's status or not.
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