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January 23, 2019, 01:06:41 PM
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Zaha to Dortmund...  YES PLEASE!  It hurts seeing him stuck at Crystal Palace all these years when he could be great if he moved to a better club or transfer to another league.  What he needs is another agent.  Grin

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We are in the last 8 days of the transfer window, and the deals are flying in already.. Mario Balotelli has signed a contract with Olympique Marseille until June, Higuain is in to London to complete Chelsea loan move while Piatek undergoes milan medicals.


Just in:
Barcelona have completed the signing of Dutch midfield wonderkid Frenkie de Jong from Ajax for €75 million.
That's an absurd fee IMHO, Just give Denis Suarez a chance, he's better than De Jong!

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January 23, 2019, 08:07:33 PM
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Just in:
Barcelona have completed the signing of Dutch midfield wonderkid Frenkie de Jong from Ajax for €75 million.
That's an absurd fee IMHO, Just give Denis Suarez a chance, he's better than De Jong!
According to some spanish sites, the fee could go up to 86 million with some add-ons.

Is De Jong the new Xavi or Iniesta? is he really that good? It seems a bit a weird that Barcelona would pay almost 90m for a player that has less than 50 appearances with Ajax. Also, don't they have a bunch of midfielders already? Busquest, Rakitic, Vidal, Coutinho, Arthur, Aleñá, Puig, Sergi Roberto...it's good to have some options but damn...

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January 23, 2019, 08:13:24 PM
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Is De Jong the new Xavi or Iniesta? is he really that good? It seems a bit a weird that Barcelona would pay almost 90m for a player that has less than 50 appearances with Ajax. Also, don't they have a bunch of midfielders already? Busquest, Rakitic, Vidal, Coutinho, Arthur, Aleñá, Puig, Sergi Roberto...it's good to have some options but damn...
They paid so much because PSG was gonna grab him and Barca fans couldn't stand that so they paid the extra 15M.

He's good, he's shown lots of potential in the CL and with the Netherlands (a team who played very good games against France and Germany recently).
Barca is preparing the future. Rakitic won't stay forever. Vidal is a sub and Coutinho is more offensive.
Arthur and de Jong are young and could become very good players for them.
No need for Rabiot though.
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According to some spanish sites, the fee could go up to 86 million with some add-ons.

Is De Jong the new Xavi or Iniesta? is he really that good? It seems a bit a weird that Barcelona would pay almost 90m for a player that has less than 50 appearances with Ajax. Also, don't they have a bunch of midfielders already? Busquest, Rakitic, Vidal, Coutinho, Arthur, Aleñá, Puig, Sergi Roberto...it's good to have some options but damn...

Sometimes Barca tend to overpay a team when it comes to transfers of players as even if they don't end up liking him they can sell it to another team without any kind of loss. Frankie De Jong is not a player to skip with as remember Ajax is known from its youth academy in Netherlands and has produce a lot of wonder kinds in the past like Christian Eriksen, Zlatan Ibrahimović, and more recently Davinson Sánchez the problem is all the players I have mentioned have been sold way lower than what Barcelona is paying for so I think their scouts are seeing something we are not.

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According to some spanish sites, the fee could go up to 86 million with some add-ons.

Is De Jong the new Xavi or Iniesta? is he really that good? It seems a bit a weird that Barcelona would pay almost 90m for a player that has less than 50 appearances with Ajax. Also, don't they have a bunch of midfielders already? Busquest, Rakitic, Vidal, Coutinho, Arthur, Aleñá, Puig, Sergi Roberto...it's good to have some options but damn...

Options be dammed! Really, I'd rather have them splash that fee on a young centre forward, than De jong, he lack experience in all ramifications and I'd not expect him to be slotted into Starting XI anytime soon, he'd lose the confidence in less than anyone can imagine with a great pressure that comes with playing in the Barca shirt, here comes another Andre Gomes from Barcelona board.


They paid so much because PSG was gonna grab him and Barca fans couldn't stand that so they paid the extra 15M.

He's good, he's shown lots of potential in the CL and with the Netherlands (a team who played very good games against France and Germany recently).
Barca is preparing the future. Rakitic won't stay forever. Vidal is a sub and Coutinho is more offensive.
Arthur and de Jong are young and could become very good players for them.
No need for Rabiot though.

Just the very same way they couldn't watch Roma have Malcom who's now supposedly a "loss" logically.

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January 23, 2019, 08:55:01 PM
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Just in:
Barcelona have completed the signing of Dutch midfield wonderkid Frenkie de Jong from Ajax for €75 million.
That's an absurd fee IMHO, Just give Denis Suarez a chance, he's better than De Jong!
According to some spanish sites, the fee could go up to 86 million with some add-ons.

Is De Jong the new Xavi or Iniesta? is he really that good? It seems a bit a weird that Barcelona would pay almost 90m for a player that has less than 50 appearances with Ajax. Also, don't they have a bunch of midfielders already? Busquest, Rakitic, Vidal, Coutinho, Arthur, Aleñá, Puig, Sergi Roberto...it's good to have some options but damn...

Time will tell .He is young and very talented .Barca had great time with Dutch players
Crazy price look Piatek deal half year in poor Italian club previously he was playing in vegoary low quality Polish club
He score some goals but 35 mln euro
Genoa bought him for 4 mln half year ago
It is all madness

When Barca ask for players then price is raising same is when Real wants to buy or any other big club


 
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No need for Rabiot though.
Yeah, last I heard, Tottenham were interested in him, though I still think Daniel Levy will keep his no-signings policy until the next season.

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Sometimes Barca tend to overpay a team when it comes to transfers of players as even if they don't end up liking him they can sell it to another team without any kind of loss. Frankie De Jong is not a player to skip with as remember Ajax is known from its youth academy in Netherlands and has produce a lot of wonder kinds in the past like Christian Eriksen, Zlatan Ibrahimović, and more recently Davinson Sánchez the problem is all the players I have mentioned have been sold way lower than what Barcelona is paying for so I think their scouts are seeing something we are not.
Yes but they also had some promising players that ended up being flops like Kishna, El Ghazi, Zivkovic, Viktor Fischer, Bazoer.

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Options be dammed! Really, I'd rather have them splash that fee on a young centre forward, than De jong, he lack experience in all ramifications and I'd not expect him to be slotted into Starting XI anytime soon, he'd lose the confidence in less than anyone can imagine with a great pressure that comes with playing in the Barca shirt, here comes another Andre Gomes from Barcelona board.
I mean, we haven't seen him playing with Barcelona so it might be too early to say that he'll be another Andre Gomes. If he can adapt as fast as Arthur did (a player with no experience in european football), then maybe he'll turn out to be a decent signing, time will tell if he'll become a top player.

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January 24, 2019, 02:28:54 AM
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When Barca ask for players then price is raising same is when Real wants to buy or any other big club

Right, that is true but, I think the only reason why Barcelona paid that much was just to make they beat PSG and Man City to his signature.

I mean, we haven't seen him playing with Barcelona so it might be too early to say that he'll be another Andre Gomes. If he can adapt as fast as Arthur did (a player with no experience in european football), then maybe he'll turn out to be a decent signing, time will tell if he'll become a top player.

I guess I was just being too hard on him already. I actually like De Jong as a player, I was only disappointed in the Barcelona board for another unnecessary signing. You also acknowledged that Arthur has adapted well but still that has not been good enough to secure him a place in the starting xi, what then could we expect the fate of De Jong to be.

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When Barca ask for players then price is raising same is when Real wants to buy or any other big club

Right, that is true but, I think the only reason why Barcelona paid that much was just to make they beat PSG and Man City to his signature.

I mean, we haven't seen him playing with Barcelona so it might be too early to say that he'll be another Andre Gomes. If he can adapt as fast as Arthur did (a player with no experience in european football), then maybe he'll turn out to be a decent signing, time will tell if he'll become a top player.

I guess I was just being too hard on him already. I actually like De Jong as a player, I was only disappointed in the Barcelona board for another unnecessary signing. You also acknowledged that Arthur has adapted well but still that has not been good enough to secure him a place in the starting xi, what then could we expect the fate of De Jong to be.

Hey i believe they had no choice had they waited for summer it would have resulted in a bidding war, but even considering that I feel they have vastly over paid for him. While there’s no doubts about the quality of what De Jong will bring, I’m just not sure how he’ll get into the starting line up. Also it’s pertinent to note with Barcelona coach not sure to stay beyond this season, this signing doesn’t make any sense especially when there’s news they’ll move for Neymar.
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Yes but they also had some promising players that ended up being flops like Kishna, El Ghazi, Zivkovic, Viktor Fischer, Bazoer.
That is why I have said that Barca is on a risky position here. As of now we don't know if de Jong will live up to what Barca have paid for him. Eredivisie is not as competitive as other European leagues out there and we don't know if de Jong will successfully translate his level of play in La Liga. The good thing is he is still young and has a lot of time to develop in the league. Another thing about young players is they still retain some of his value even if they reached the ages 24-25 so Barca still has a lot of time to see if Frenkie de Jong is the right fit for the team.

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Yes but they also had some promising players that ended up being flops like Kishna, El Ghazi, Zivkovic, Viktor Fischer, Bazoer.
That is why I have said that Barca is on a risky position here. As of now we don't know if de Jong will live up to what Barca have paid for him. Eredivisie is not as competitive as other European leagues out there and we don't know if de Jong will successfully translate his level of play in La Liga. The good thing is he is still young and has a lot of time to develop in the league. Another thing about young players is they still retain some of his value even if they reached the ages 24-25 so Barca still has a lot of time to see if Frenkie de Jong is the right fit for the team.

Barca could be coming to an end of an era. Messi in his 30’s, Suarez also in his 30’s & slowing down. Messi has carried them for years, will they enter a period of transition now? Real are witnessing something similar with Ronaldo leaving.

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January 24, 2019, 11:03:32 AM
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Barca could be coming to an end of an era. Messi in his 30’s, Suarez also in his 30’s & slowing down. Messi has carried them for years, will they enter a period of transition now? Real are witnessing something similar with Ronaldo leaving.

That's not an overstatement, Messi will be the duly missed whenever he leaves, And Barcelona could make the best preparation for his departure by bringing the best out of Dembele and Coutinho, both players combined could try to fill in the void if taken with proper care, and I think Dembele will see a lot of development if should stay with club as it has been obvious that Messi has taken him fully under his wings.

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Barca could be coming to an end of an era. Messi in his 30’s, Suarez also in his 30’s & slowing down. Messi has carried them for years, will they enter a period of transition now? Real are witnessing something similar with Ronaldo leaving.

That's not an overstatement, Messi will be the duly missed whenever he leaves, And Barcelona could make the best preparation for his departure by bringing the best out of Dembele and Coutinho, both players combined could try to fill in the void if taken with proper care, and I think Dembele will see a lot of development if should stay with club as it has been obvious that Messi has taken him fully under his wings.

Dembele is a great player, same with Coutinho. Neither can dominate matches like Messi has/does. He’s one of the greatest players to ever kick a ball.

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Talking about overpaying players, PSG just signed Argentinean MF Leandro Paredes for 47 millions.

PSG have been looking for a MF for about a year and a half... and they decide to spend that amount on an average player in January. Nonsense if you ask me.
Why didn't they try to sign a top player before the season started ? Why wait to be in a desperate situation and be forced to sign someone like that ?

More nonsense : Thierry Henry just got sacked by Monaco.

WTF is going on in French Football ? Is everybody crazy or what ?
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Messi is football maniac he is addicted to football can't live without playing
If his health will be ok then he will play until 40 years old like Gigs
Barca is doing well buying new young players .Barca has enough older players Busqets .Rakitic Pique etc they will end his careers maybe not now but in coming years
Only one thing what i don't like in Barcs is that Barca is buying instead of educate and growth talents from Barca academy
All previous generation of great players including Messi came from Barca academy
Great players with emotional personal relations with club


By the way i have been reading that Naymar is injured and probably he will not play in at least first game against Man United

 
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January 24, 2019, 07:01:15 PM
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Talking about overpaying players, PSG just signed Argentinean MF Leandro Paredes for 47 millions.

PSG have been looking for a MF for about a year and a half... and they decide to spend that amount on an average player in January. Nonsense if you ask me.
Why didn't they try to sign a top player before the season started ? Why wait to be in a desperate situation and be forced to sign someone like that ?
I don't think they expected Rabiot to decline the contract extension so they had to prioritize signing a new midfielder asap.

About Paredes, if i remember correctly, Real Madrid were interested in him last year,  so maybe these teams see something that we don't because honestly, I also think he's average.

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By the way i have been reading that Naymar is injured and probably he will not play in at least first game against Man United

It's not yet known how long he'll be out.
It's the same foot he has already injured. If it's broken, he can be out for 6 months. If it's just an inflammation, it should be a week.
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About Paredes, if i remember correctly, Real Madrid were interested in him last year,  so maybe these teams see something that we don't because honestly, I also think he's average.


PSG need a defensive player, something he is not. He's a good technician yes but they have that already.
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