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November 22, 2023, 08:45:59 PM
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Man Utd are always buying former world class stars that are older, past their best and on huge wages.

It’s like they don’t learn from their mistakes. They really need a new transfer strategy, it’s been a decade of severe underperformance.
But other rumors say that Manchester United wants to sign Thomas Muller in January, saying Erik Ten Hag wants a more experienced squad, is this action really stupid? Trying to sign an old player who has run out of stamina and skills.

Source: https://twitter.com/DeadlineDayLive/status/1727363308314067435

I don't know if they realize their mistake or if the management wants older but experienced players, but it's hard to understand because we know other clubs try to recruit young talented players and then they will hone their skills for the future of the club later, but Manchester United don't seem to do that.
In my opinion, this is just a rumor, Muller does have extraordinary experience in his career both at club level and the German National Team. But recruiting him is not a wise thing to do, United dressing room really needs a player like Muller, but I think Casemiro can also be used as a role model there. Previously we also heard that Antoine Griezmann was linked with The Red Devils transfer window. If you compare the two players, I think Griezmann can still be considered, because he is a little younger. However, if United transfer saga this time will target some older players with experience, I think their policy is full of question marks.

It would be better for United to release several players with minimal contributions to streamline the squad in the January transfer window, and then use these funds to recruit potential young players even though the prices are slightly more expensive. I think such a model is better for the long term, rather than thinking about short-term options for just one season.

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November 22, 2023, 09:01:50 PM
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Source: https://twitter.com/DeadlineDayLive/status/1727288316750364851

When Ancelotti's future was still unclear and his contract expired in the summer, a new name emerged as his replacement, namely Roberto De Zerbi. Even though Roberto De Zerbi has the potential to be a candidate for the next Real Madrid coach, it doesn't seem to be serious because at the moment he can't bring Brighton to peak performance and is starting to experience instability in consistency. Of course, Real Madrid also doesn't want to place a big responsibility on a coach who only trains well for one season and in the following season starts to lose his tactics. Apart from that, I think Xabi Alonso is still a strong candidate as Ancelotti's replacement if Ancelotti doesn't extend his contract in the summer.
We can start mentioning the names of coaches both average and experienced coaches. Average teams have a chance to have one of the most outstanding managers in the EPL this season. They're just lucky to hit such remarkable professionalism, and Roberto De Zerbi is a distinctive gem. Roberto De Zerbi's arrival to Brighton & Hove Albion has transformed the team's performance, and I must commend him on his efforts at Amex Stadium. The Seagulls should be proud to have such an understanding and talented coach leading the club.

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November 22, 2023, 09:06:15 PM
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Man Utd are always buying former world class stars that are older, past their best and on huge wages.

It’s like they don’t learn from their mistakes. They really need a new transfer strategy, it’s been a decade of severe underperformance.
But other rumors say that Manchester United wants to sign Thomas Muller in January, saying Erik Ten Hag wants a more experienced squad, is this action really stupid? Trying to sign an old player who has run out of stamina and skills.

Source: https://twitter.com/DeadlineDayLive/status/1727363308314067435

I don't know if they realize their mistake or if the management wants older but experienced players, but it's hard to understand because we know other clubs try to recruit young talented players and then they will hone their skills for the future of the club later, but Manchester United don't seem to do that.
This is a little complicated if it is realized, they have already tried with Eriksen and in the end this will not last long so it is back to bringing old players even though the experience is quite a lot but still this is not too comparable especially Muller has always been comfortable with the peasant league that happened in the Bundesliga so with his age now it will be very difficult to adapt to the EPL.

But there are currently other rumors that Varane is also in Bayern's sights and this could be a tied deal for a player exchange especially by looking at the current situation of Varane who has problems with injuries and some rumors say that he has problems with Ten Hag tetnu this could be a reason to move to a new club.

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November 22, 2023, 09:18:12 PM
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I don't sure how accurate with this information about Atletico Madrid Antonie Griezmann will move to Manchester United, last few hours I checked on some media reported about fake news with Antonie Griezmann will reach agreement deal moving to United and he will extend with Atletico Madrid until his contract over on Jun 30, 2026.
Manchester United keep making stupid move if this rumor went true, Griezmann is already old which mean they can't use Griezmann for long term prospect. What's the point to spend good amount of money when the guy can only play for 2-3 years? no one will interested with him anymore and Manchester United can't able to sell him.

True, it doesnt makes any sense. Also we saw earlier how Griezmann failed with Barcelona so I think there will be a doubt in mind of United's mind whether it will be a right move or not. Griezmann have been doing great at Atletico right now and I don't think Griezmann is planning to move away from Atletico. I don't think at all that Griezmann will be a right choice for United.

I don't think he would suit their style of play in general, and besides you're right that he's unlikely to want to leave Atletico, after the Barcelona incident he'll think a hundred times before leaving the club. I think he'll finish his career at this club, he's still doing well for himself

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November 22, 2023, 09:47:59 PM
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Source: https://twitter.com/DeadlineDayLive/status/1727288316750364851

When Ancelotti's future was still unclear and his contract expired in the summer, a new name emerged as his replacement, namely Roberto De Zerbi. Even though Roberto De Zerbi has the potential to be a candidate for the next Real Madrid coach, it doesn't seem to be serious because at the moment he can't bring Brighton to peak performance and is starting to experience instability in consistency. Of course, Real Madrid also doesn't want to place a big responsibility on a coach who only trains well for one season and in the following season starts to lose his tactics. Apart from that, I think Xabi Alonso is still a strong candidate as Ancelotti's replacement if Ancelotti doesn't extend his contract in the summer.

I'm certain Carlo Ancellotti would be leaving Real Madrid at the end of the season, it's just a matter of timing, he has indeed helped the club raise a lot of trophies and awards. For Roberto De Zebri, he's indeed a great coach with top tactics, even Pep Guardiola gives him high regards with how he builds from the back with Brighton last season.
He did well last season and helped them qualify for the Europa League Competition for the very first time and they was able to go above tenth position for the first time.

This season, he has been unable to handle the pressure that comes with both the Europa League and Premier League, I know he is a good coach when it comes to handling younger talents but how well can he shapes them tactically. I don't think that he will ne the perfect man to replace Carlo Ancellotti.

Everything is clearto about Ancellotti and Real Madrid, sinc Brazil couldn't get good result aginst Argantine, they are certainly underpresure and sure Ancellotti is the best option they have have for Brazil, he was even near to join Brazil during the summer. I think Ancellotti will leave and Xabi Alonso getting closer to Real Madrid.

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November 22, 2023, 09:49:40 PM
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Man Utd are always buying former world class stars that are older, past their best and on huge wages.

It’s like they don’t learn from their mistakes. They really need a new transfer strategy, it’s been a decade of severe underperformance.
But other rumors say that Manchester United wants to sign Thomas Muller in January, saying Erik Ten Hag wants a more experienced squad, is this action really stupid? Trying to sign an old player who has run out of stamina and skills.

Source: https://twitter.com/DeadlineDayLive/status/1727363308314067435

I don't know if they realize their mistake or if the management wants older but experienced players, but it's hard to understand because we know other clubs try to recruit young talented players and then they will hone their skills for the future of the club later, but Manchester United don't seem to do that.

I want to use Wout Weghost as a reference here from last season, fans and other fans bashed the lad too much that they could only see what he didn't do, what he brought to Manchester United was work rate, closing down spaces for Marcus Rashford and assisting him with final passes. These old players have experience and want to show they've still got it. Though it's never a good idea completely. As experienced as he is,he will be a good backup player for Manchester United but not with outrageous wages honestly.

If Bayern Munich wanted him honestly, they will make the deal to retain Thomas Muller down the plan before the start of the season. I feel like it's already a go.

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Goncalo Ramos joined Paris St. Germain in the summer and he played 15 games and did very well. Now PSG have signed him permanently, which means a lot of money for Benfica. Benfica will receive 65 million euros plus 15 million euros in bonus payments. The Portuguese has scored 7 goals in 10 games in the nationalteam and has a contract with PSG goes until 2028.

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I don't sure how accurate with this information about Atletico Madrid Antonie Griezmann will move to Manchester United, last few hours I checked on some media reported about fake news with Antonie Griezmann will reach agreement deal moving to United and he will extend with Atletico Madrid until his contract over on Jun 30, 2026.
Manchester United keep making stupid move if this rumor went true, Griezmann is already old which mean they can't use Griezmann for long term prospect. What's the point to spend good amount of money when the guy can only play for 2-3 years? no one will interested with him anymore and Manchester United can't able to sell him.
Pros and cons definitely occur in rumors about Manchester United with Griezmann at this time but indeed I am also in a counter situation now because we know that Griezmann's performance at Barcelona can be an example when he was brought at a very expensive price it ended with Atletico's scheme that managed to bring Griezmann home at a much cheaper price as well as the destruction of Barcelona because Griezmann could not provide good results.
At the moment he is indeed contributing again to Atletico and his performance is slowly improving especially and can be placed anywhere (attacking midfielder or striker) but in the end something like this can only happen at Atletico because Griezmann already has a good attachment to the players and Simeone who trained him for a long time so that when he is at a new club honestly I am quite worried because his adaptation will be very slow especially in the EPL which incidentally the way of playing and the tension that each match has is very different from La Liga.
This could make his performance decline and in fact this could also be dangerous for Manchester United itself.

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I don't quite get why some players are great at some places and not so great at other places, even under different managers. Griezmann is one of them (lukaku is another perfect example), he played so well at ATM, played terribly at Barcelona, and could be attributed towards their huge debt, they paid so much for him and made absolutely nothing on him basically. United would be taking a huge risk there, I mean it would be awesome for them if he plays like he is playing at ATM, that would benefit them for sure, but if he plays like he played at Barcelona then suddenly that would be terrible money spent for them. Plus ATM just got him full-time recently, he was on loan there, so it would be a difficult situation, he still has  long contract there.

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November 22, 2023, 10:20:37 PM
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Man Utd are always buying former world class stars that are older, past their best and on huge wages.

It’s like they don’t learn from their mistakes. They really need a new transfer strategy, it’s been a decade of severe underperformance.
But other rumors say that Manchester United wants to sign Thomas Muller in January, saying Erik Ten Hag wants a more experienced squad, is this action really stupid? Trying to sign an old player who has run out of stamina and skills.

Source: https://twitter.com/DeadlineDayLive/status/1727363308314067435

I don't know if they realize their mistake or if the management wants older but experienced players, but it's hard to understand because we know other clubs try to recruit young talented players and then they will hone their skills for the future of the club later, but Manchester United don't seem to do that.
Manchester United needs to probe their scout department and most times I begin to think that the scout reaches some agreement with these old players before the bring them to the club. I cannot say much about it but there is alot of suspicion in their activities.

Most times I will begin to imagine why Manchester United will not be able to sign players as young as Vini Jr, Rodrygo etc. We do not consider the future and that is why we are thinking the Thomas  Muller way instead of helpiing their young striker Hojlund

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November 22, 2023, 10:44:39 PM
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Man Utd are always buying former world class stars that are older, past their best and on huge wages.

It’s like they don’t learn from their mistakes. They really need a new transfer strategy, it’s been a decade of severe underperformance.
But other rumors say that Manchester United wants to sign Thomas Muller in January, saying Erik Ten Hag wants a more experienced squad, is this action really stupid? Trying to sign an old player who has run out of stamina and skills.

Source: https://twitter.com/DeadlineDayLive/status/1727363308314067435

I don't know if they realize their mistake or if the management wants older but experienced players, but it's hard to understand because we know other clubs try to recruit young talented players and then they will hone their skills for the future of the club later, but Manchester United don't seem to do that.
Manchester United needs to probe their scout department and most times I begin to think that the scout reaches some agreement with these old players before the bring them to the club. I cannot say much about it but there is alot of suspicion in their activities.

Most times I will begin to imagine why Manchester United will not be able to sign players as young as Vini Jr, Rodrygo etc. We do not consider the future and that is why we are thinking the Thomas  Muller way instead of helpiing their young striker Hojlund

But can bringing in Thomas Muller help them out of the situation now? I checked that he turned 34 years this year in September and think about this, if Ronaldo couldn't help the club improve their situation, how will Muller help the club to play better? He could be a substitution player for the final minutes or something like that, but bringing him in to take a striker position is not a good idea in my opinion. They should try to find young super talents who are willing to give everything for the club and finally bring back the success they once had. I am not sure if the approach to sign old players who are about to retire would be a good strategy. It failed with Ronaldo and it will fail again.
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November 22, 2023, 10:45:39 PM
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When Ancelotti's future was still unclear and his contract expired in the summer, a new name emerged as his replacement, namely Roberto De Zerbi. Even though Roberto De Zerbi has the potential to be a candidate for the next Real Madrid coach, it doesn't seem to be serious because at the moment he can't bring Brighton to peak performance and is starting to experience instability in consistency. Of course, Real Madrid also doesn't want to place a big responsibility on a coach who only trains well for one season and in the following season starts to lose his tactics. Apart from that, I think Xabi Alonso is still a strong candidate as Ancelotti's replacement if Ancelotti doesn't extend his contract in the summer.

There have been many names linked with Real Madrid, but I'm not so sure that De Zerbi will be Carlo Ancelotti's successor. We know that the coach is quite skilled at handling the squad under his care. However, it seems to me that Madrid will look for a truly established coaching option. at least, like Ancelotti, who is truly skilled at handling his squad both on the field, training ground and most importantly in the Real Madrid dressing room itself.
and like you said, we agree. Also, it is not certain that De Zerbi is willing to be Ancelotti's replacement. I mean, maybe it's the same as Xavi Alonso who is not ready to coach a team as big as Real Madrid. The problem is, there are many stars in the team's squad. Apart from having to be good at setting strategies, the coach must be a respected figure. and that's why, Madrid and Ancelotti are truly compatible.

If we try to speculate, then Xabi Alonso is a very ideal candidate. Apart from having played with Madrid, Alonso has proven his capacity to bring Leverkusen, which slumped last season, to its feet. and now, he has shown that he can bring Leverkusen to the top of the Bundesliga standings even with not too many star players. Unfortunately so far there has been no official statement, but Don Carlo is still managing Real Madrid until the end of this season. So, let's just wait until the time comes.

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November 22, 2023, 10:48:47 PM
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I don't quite get why some players are great at some places and not so great at other places, even under different managers. Griezmann is one of them (lukaku is another perfect example), he played so well at ATM, played terribly at Barcelona, and could be attributed towards their huge debt, they paid so much for him and made absolutely nothing on him basically. United would be taking a huge risk there, I mean it would be awesome for them if he plays like he is playing at ATM, that would benefit them for sure, but if he plays like he played at Barcelona then suddenly that would be terrible money spent for them. Plus ATM just got him full-time recently, he was on loan there, so it would be a difficult situation, he still has  long contract there.

That's the thing with life — different people are gonna shine in different circumstances and it's not entirely their fact. It's similar to how we move across different places or phases in life and some favors us and some do not. I knew Greizman won't have a good time at Barcelona since he spent majority of his time in spain not liking the club especially when he was red hot at ATM between the 2015—2018 seasons. As for Lukaku, as someone who has become used to Italian style of play, i Knew it would be difficult for him to cope with the high pace of football and the aggressive defenders in the EPL.

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November 22, 2023, 10:51:17 PM
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Me too but let's think that if any possibility can happen with him. That depends on his decision whether he is willing to leave from madrid in winter or waiting for his contract to expire. Im thinking about modric to leave from real madrid as soon as possible.
Im sure he was not feeling well to stay even longer in the club. Saudi pro league has been preparing a spot for him in the league. He will get better chance to play there and i think it's a wise decision from him to go there.
Of course, it will depend on Modric's own decision whether to stay or leave if there is an interesting offer in January transfer window. If Modric prefers to leave to another team, Real Madrid seems to consider letting him go. Modric is no longer the main player, he mostly played as a substituted player. If he leaves Real Madrid now, it won't ruin the main lineup of Real Madrid. Real Madrid is also possible to get his replacement during the January transfer window.

Well, Saudi clubs are always trying to sign any players who are possible to leave their current teams. Modric is possible to leave Real Madrid next year, Saudi clubs possibly make offers for him.

It will be one of good decision to be taken by modric. He can enjoy his life and got easy money from staying at saudi pro league and i do support this. It will better rather than being benched due to the age.
Yes. Modric already achieved many things in football. He can enjoy his career in SPL with a big salary. I think Modric has no ambition to achieve anything in his current age. Modric isn't a typical player like Ronaldo who still has a big ambition although he is almost 40 years old.


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November 22, 2023, 11:21:54 PM
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Manchester United are said to have plans to sign Antoine Griezmann in January by offering a really profitable deal for him. They are said to be planning to offer 435k euros per week which would be nearly double his weekly salary now. Marca says like it is triple the amount he earns now but as far as I can see he earns 240k euros per week.

Anyway even if this attracts Griezmann's attention I don't feel like Atletico Madrid would let him go in the first place. Because he is at home now and showing a really valuable performance to the team. I don't even expect Griezmann to leave in January while Atletico Madrid are in a much better condition than the Red Devils.

Antonio Griezmann has been Atletico Madrid best player this season amongst Alvaro Morata who have both seen themselves scoring a joint Fifteen good goals in the Spanish League.
Diego Simeone already expressed how much of a core player he has been to the club this season nad how he was meant to play for Atletico Madrid. He should have their DNA intact!

Why not offer same contract to a much younger, talented and skillful Kylian Mbappe? Kylian Mbappe would be a better player for Manchester United to consider than Antonio Griezmann who has aged and doesn't have that energy for Manchester United. Manchester needs to also build around the youngest and best players around the world.

Manchester United can of course make the best offer they can for Mbappe. However I don't know what the board are planning exactly. Besides even if they meet Mbappe's demands about money I don't know whether he would still like to prefer the Red Devils to for example Real Madrid these days. Because there is a huge difference now.

Mbappe would like to be playing for a winner team from now on if he leaves PSG. I mean they are winning the Ligue 1 title regularly of course. But it isn't the same as winning the Champions League title.  Grin

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November 22, 2023, 11:52:09 PM
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Loka Modric was an effective and important player in Real Madrid he earned many achievements with this team but the fact about Modric and other players is they get old and they need to leave the team or get retire there
Even playing at this age in a team like Real Madrid is a lot and I think Modric has done a good job so far but it's time for him to leave and maybe his next destination will be the Saudi League.


He was a great player but his age will never lie. Modric is still helping a lot even though he is not young anymore. This is the fact but since real madrid puts regeneration as its priority and modric needs think to leave from there.

He was not leaving caused by he was bad but modric is going to leave caused by he is seeking for a good club that will accept the old player like him. Saudi pro leagu has been offering him many times and it's time for him to go there.

Modric has been giving green light to move there. Real madrid can also take advantage by getting some fees as long as el real will sell modric on winter transfer season.

Saudi league is always become the most convenient place for european players to retire from their career.


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November 23, 2023, 03:59:31 AM
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Manchester United can of course make the best offer they can for Mbappe. However I don't know what the board are planning exactly. Besides even if they meet Mbappe's demands about money I don't know whether he would still like to prefer the Red Devils to for example Real Madrid these days. Because there is a huge difference now.

Mbappe would like to be playing for a winner team from now on if he leaves PSG. I mean they are winning the Ligue 1 title regularly of course. But it isn't the same as winning the Champions League title.  Grin
Maybe Manchester United can demand the large amount of money that Mbappe wants, but is it possible that Mbappe wants to play with Manchester United?
It doesn't make sense if Mbappe plays with Manchester United because there is no chance whatsoever of getting the title and it is better to be with Real Madrid, which is clear in La Liga that it is certain to be the team that dominates the title and has a big chance of winning the UCL.
From this we can conclude who Mbappe will choose in the future when these two teams make offers to him.

If we were just talking about money then Mbappe could earn more by playing in the SPL with the Saudi team but he doesn't think about money or still prioritizes his career rather than chasing a team that can pay high fees.
Moreover, no team is able to surpass Saudi in terms of salaries and offers to each football player.

I think it no longer important to stay with PSG who may only be able to win the Ligue 1 title, Mbappe is a great player and he seems to be one of a number of great players who don't have UCL title and this is why he really wants it.

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November 23, 2023, 05:02:31 AM
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Loka Modric was an effective and important player in Real Madrid he earned many achievements with this team but the fact about Modric and other players is they get old and they need to leave the team or get retire there
Even playing at this age in a team like Real Madrid is a lot and I think Modric has done a good job so far but it's time for him to leave and maybe his next destination will be the Saudi League.


He was a great player but his age will never lie. Modric is still helping a lot even though he is not young anymore. This is the fact but since real madrid puts regeneration as its priority and modric needs think to leave from there.

He was not leaving caused by he was bad but modric is going to leave caused by he is seeking for a good club that will accept the old player like him. Saudi pro leagu has been offering him many times and it's time for him to go there.

Modric has been giving green light to move there. Real madrid can also take advantage by getting some fees as long as el real will sell modric on winter transfer season.

Saudi league is always become the most convenient place for european players to retire from their career.


I thinks Luka Modric still want to playing at Real Madrid even though Anclotti doesn't give him enough playing times, but Luka Modric is still an important part of Real Madrid. Real Madrid realizes thats not all player have experience likes Luka Modric, who has been at this clubs for approximately 12 year, so Real Madrid still needs Modric's services to provide experienced to its players while he has been at Real Madrid for a long times.

Luka Modric has sign a short term contract with Real Madrid, and Luka Modric is willing to extend his tenure at the Bernabeu until the end of this seasons, maybe if Luka Modric is willing to go to Saudi Arabia Luka Modric will be a free transfer when his contract expires at Real Madrid and Luka Modric will spend the rest of his career there, I thinking Saudi Arabia will be willing to accept him because Luka modric's has quite a lot of experienced in the European league.
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November 23, 2023, 05:45:05 AM
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Manchester United needs to probe their scout department and most times I begin to think that the scout reaches some agreement with these old players before the bring them to the club. I cannot say much about it but there is alot of suspicion in their activities.
The scouting team was always making incorrect decision. I can't say whether it was coming from ten hag or the scouting team itself but manchester united was too often in making blunders by buying unnecessary players that was only sitting on the bench in the club.
The scouting team shall be replaced. Ten hag is also stop being a eredivise centric coz he was in the EPL club not eredivise club. ten hag shall stop to bring new eredivise players to this club.
Just because he was coming from eredivise and ten hag thing EPL has same quality of it.

Most times I will begin to imagine why Manchester United will not be able to sign players as young as Vini Jr, Rodrygo etc. We do not consider the future and that is why we are thinking the Thomas  Muller way instead of helpiing their young striker Hojlund
That depends on the coach. Manchester united has ability to do that but ten hag never use his brain to do something better rather than to recruit the useless player with over priced value like antony.
This makes me feel upset ten hag caused by he doesn't even know how to recruit a good player . Ten hag was always doing blunder. mason mount became the new blunder by spending a lot and got nothing.

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November 23, 2023, 06:00:43 AM
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I thinks Luka Modric still want to playing at Real Madrid even though Anclotti doesn't give him enough playing times, but Luka Modric is still an important part of Real Madrid. Real Madrid realizes thats not all player have experience likes Luka Modric, who has been at this clubs for approximately 12 year, so Real Madrid still needs Modric's services to provide experienced to its players while he has been at Real Madrid for a long times.

Luka Modric has sign a short term contract with Real Madrid, and Luka Modric is willing to extend his tenure at the Bernabeu until the end of this seasons, maybe if Luka Modric is willing to go to Saudi Arabia Luka Modric will be a free transfer when his contract expires at Real Madrid and Luka Modric will spend the rest of his career there, I thinking Saudi Arabia will be willing to accept him because Luka modric's has quite a lot of experienced in the European league.
Luka Modric have realize less get regular position with Real Madrid during Jude Bellingham on the top performed, current many main Madrid's players injured I think he will get back his regular position for few matches later. I don't think Luka Modric will leave Real Madrid on next winter transfer window opening because he has contract over until June 2024 and he will appreciated with Madrid have extend his contract last season. Carlo Ancelotti will leave Madrid manager position at the end this season, I don't sure new Madrid manager will extend Modric or not regarding still speculation about new manager and their viewed with Modric under their scheme or not.

If leave Madrid, not difficult for Luka Modric get new club after Saudi Pro League teams still interested for signing him but regarding his performance still ability for playing with top European teams although he was over 38 years old.

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