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April 24, 2017, 05:11:27 AM
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Ask them if they have ever faced any sort of harassment.

Quran was recognised as extremist text. http://www.sova-center.ru/misuse/news/persecution/2014/12/d30777/ (In Russian)
But mr. Putin made a special law to unban it.

http://kremlin.ru/acts/news/50759 (In Russian)

There are quite a few verses in the Quran, which can be described as extremist. These verses either preach hatred against the non-believers, or urge the followers of Islam to indulge in acts of terror against the infidels.

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April 24, 2017, 06:20:27 AM
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Thanks for all your comments, very interesting.

I loled at the comment of kuril fighting for marketshare, at putin mind control program and at the special quoran law.

Freespeech can only be total. It's a typical binary thing. Or it's full (specially the speech you hate, anger or trigger you) or it isn't. There is no middle ground. If your only option is to censor speech you already lost. Find better arguments and win a friend rather than make a new ennemy.





I think it's not a religion, but a sect.

I don't know much about them, but they don't agree to blood transfusions, even if this could save their lives, which could put them in conflict with the law, especially if a child dies because the parents decided it was a god's choice. I don't think they are terrorists, but they are a closed society with its own rules that in their minds are above the law.


The child wouldn't have been born if the parents knew they couldn't refuse certain life saving health acts on their child. Who does the child belongs too?

One thing that medical history teach, is how little those docs know. It evolves a lot...

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April 24, 2017, 07:00:42 AM
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Well, at last people began to wake up from the deception of religion, it is necessary to close all religions and not allow them to lead people.
Not every religion tries to lead people to darkness. Religion was created to help make people better and somehow treat other humans better as well. What could you possibly recommend that tries to teach that? Ethics? I think it's not that reliable.

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April 24, 2017, 07:12:39 AM
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Everybody have there own opinion and freedom of worship,they should be left to practice there religion
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April 24, 2017, 07:37:10 AM
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I see no reason to deal with religion. Radical Islam certainly deserves this, but violence will only provoke growth of attacks. I think you need to better educate their children and to prohibit all benefits and privileges for all religions. Over time, believers will not.

Teaching children that Earth is 6000 years old and is flat borders on child abuse, don't you think?

Are you speaking about Jehovah's Witnesses or all religions when you make this odious claim? You do know that not all religious people believe that flat Earth/6,000 year old Earth crap, right?

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April 24, 2017, 08:59:22 AM
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The activities of the Jehovah's Witnesses are banned or under severe restrictions in countries such as Singapore, China, and Vietnam, in addition to Russia and the Islamic nations. Also, they are under investigation in various countries for child sexual abuse in the congregations. I would say that these people bring it on to themselves, by refusing to sing the national anthem and salute the national flag.
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April 24, 2017, 09:50:33 AM
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Russia's Supreme court declared extremist activity "administrative center of Jehovah's witnesses in Russia" and forbade his work in the country.




In my country they should do the same thing that russia did



This decision was taken on April 20. Who still do not believe that Putin is the embodiment of Satan?

Putin and many politicians are evil and commit many crimes, but do you believe that Satan exists? If we admit that Satan exists then does God exist? Why God did not punish Putin?



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April 24, 2017, 11:06:35 AM
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Russia's Supreme court declared extremist activity "administrative center of Jehovah's witnesses in Russia" and forbade his work in the country. This decision was taken on April 20. Who still do not believe that Putin is the embodiment of Satan?

I saw the news and I wondered what this world is turning into especially from a country that prides itself as a fighter for the Christians against other persecutions. The reason the conclusion, its left to them but from the look of it, Jehovah's Witnesses are present in most countries even where I am and I have not seen them standing as threat to anyone but unfortunately this have to happen.
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Russia's Supreme court declared extremist activity "administrative center of Jehovah's witnesses in Russia" and forbade his work in the country. This decision was taken on April 20. Who still do not believe that Putin is the embodiment of Satan?

I saw the news and I wondered what this world is turning into especially from a country that prides itself as a fighter for the Christians against other persecutions. The reason the conclusion, its left to them but from the look of it, Jehovah's Witnesses are present in most countries even where I am and I have not seen them standing as threat to anyone but unfortunately this have to happen.

Russia is perhaps the only superpower which defends the rights of Christians in countries where they are under persecution (Syria, Egypt, Iraq.etc). But you must understand that this Jehovah's Witnesses is not a proper Christian sect. It is more like a new age religion or a doomsday cult, which has nothing to do with mainstream Christianity. 
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April 24, 2017, 11:29:52 AM
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Well, at last people began to wake up from the deception of religion, it is necessary to close all religions and not allow them to lead people.
Not every religion tries to lead people to darkness. Religion was created to help make people better and somehow treat other humans better as well. What could you possibly recommend that tries to teach that? Ethics? I think it's not that reliable.

I for one did not find any positive religion. In every religion, people try to manipulate. Ethics seem to me to be more effective.
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April 24, 2017, 11:40:06 AM
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Well, at last people began to wake up from the deception of religion, it is necessary to close all religions and not allow them to lead people.
Not every religion tries to lead people to darkness. Religion was created to help make people better and somehow treat other humans better as well. What could you possibly recommend that tries to teach that? Ethics? I think it's not that reliable.

I for one did not find any positive religion. In every religion, people try to manipulate. Ethics seem to me to be more effective.

That's not something that is unique to religion though. There are manipulative people in pretty much every aspect of society.

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Well, at last people began to wake up from the deception of religion, it is necessary to close all religions and not allow them to lead people.
Not every religion tries to lead people to darkness. Religion was created to help make people better and somehow treat other humans better as well. What could you possibly recommend that tries to teach that? Ethics? I think it's not that reliable.
I agree with your perspective, personally I think that @achow102 is out of is mind, the religion is very useful for some people, even if it doesnt really give anything physical, but it can make people mentality stronger, and more resistant to the bad things and habits.

Believing in anything is only your choice, you dont have to believe in Jesus, Mahomet or Buddha, you can become atheist. All that is up to you, and nobody should mess with that. That is why I hate people who are standing against the religion, I have to admit that the whole idea seems stupid for me, but still it is only my opinion and I tolerate the beliefs of the rest of society.
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April 24, 2017, 01:48:29 PM
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Jehovah's witnesses is not your ordinary ultra-religious cult. They are a group of religious fanatics, funded from the Southern United States. The Russian supreme court did the right thing.

Yeah, fannatics. They come and knock on my door sunday mornings. When I open to see who it is I usually see a couple of people dressed really nice asking me if I'm interested in joining their religion. I say no really so they leave me some literature and go to the next house.

Oh yeah, real fanatics and terrorists to boot.  Roll Eyes

I think there are enough problems with crazy people we should leave these idiots alone. They are harmless.
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April 24, 2017, 02:00:27 PM
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Russia's Supreme court declared extremist activity "administrative center of Jehovah's witnesses in Russia" and forbade his work in the country. This decision was taken on April 20. Who still do not believe that Putin is the embodiment of Satan?

I saw the news and I wondered what this world is turning into especially from a country that prides itself as a fighter for the Christians against other persecutions. The reason the conclusion, its left to them but from the look of it, Jehovah's Witnesses are present in most countries even where I am and I have not seen them standing as threat to anyone but unfortunately this have to happen.

Russia is perhaps the only superpower which defends the rights of Christians in countries where they are under persecution (Syria, Egypt, Iraq.etc). But you must understand that this Jehovah's Witnesses is not a proper Christian sect. It is more like a new age religion or a doomsday cult, which has nothing to do with mainstream Christianity. 
You're lying. As Russia defends the rights of Christians? Any of the Christians defended the Russians in Syria? Russians in Syria to protect their interests thus cover up their actions with religion. This is a manipulation. Russian always say one thing and do quite another.
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April 24, 2017, 03:46:56 PM
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Russia's Supreme court declared extremist activity "administrative center of Jehovah's witnesses in Russia" and forbade his work in the country. This decision was taken on April 20. Who still do not believe that Putin is the embodiment of Satan?

Great.  I hope other governments will crack down on all other religions as well.

It is about time we ban religion.

I agree. I, too, support the prohibition of all religions. Then there will be less conflicts because of all kinds of religious views.
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April 24, 2017, 06:55:07 PM
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Russia's Supreme court declared extremist activity "administrative center of Jehovah's witnesses in Russia" and forbade his work in the country. This decision was taken on April 20. Who still do not believe that Putin is the embodiment of Satan?

Great.  I hope other governments will crack down on all other religions as well.

It is about time we ban religion.

I agree. I, too, support the prohibition of all religions. Then there will be less conflicts because of all kinds of religious views.

So you're for taking away the individual liberties of billions of people simply because some idiotic extremist factions exist? Do you also support the prohibition of politicians because of all the wars and conflicts started for political reasons? World War I, World War II, the Korean conflict, the Vietnam conflict, Desert Storm... these wars and conflicts were all because of political ideologies, not religious ideologies.

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April 24, 2017, 08:00:36 PM
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Russia's Supreme court declared extremist activity "administrative center of Jehovah's witnesses in Russia" and forbade his work in the country. This decision was taken on April 20. Who still do not believe that Putin is the embodiment of Satan?

Great.  I hope other governments will crack down on all other religions as well.

It is about time we ban religion.

I agree. I, too, support the prohibition of all religions. Then there will be less conflicts because of all kinds of religious views.
I am opposed to ban a religion. "Jehovah's witnesses" was banned by the Communists. And now Putin has shown that he is a Communist. I didn't see any danger of this sect. I'm an atheist, but I believe that to overcome religion can only education.
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I don't think we should ban Jehovah's.

We should ban them cold calling on people front doors though.


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April 25, 2017, 12:20:23 AM
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Whenever you hear or see "Islam"/ "Muslim" what is the next thing coming to your mind? yeah pretty much I just made my point if you are smart enough you know what I mean.

To answer the lost soul posted before me, Quran is the updated and completed version of Bible. and I guess what you want is what every person wants but the world doesn't work in favor of likes of you.
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April 25, 2017, 01:34:16 AM
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Is it possible to leave the jehovah witness? What happen to those that do? Let's say switch to islam?  Grin

(I hope you get the "fun" in my question from switch from what ever to islam...).

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