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October 28, 2017, 04:55:55 PM
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Please step up your game in regards to communication. You have to be much more precise and explicit with your announcements and the whole communication.
Vague wording leads only to confusion and in the end to the most dangerous thing in crpytocurrency uncertainty and unsecurity. Security is the main concept of crpytocurrencies. So please choose your words more wisely and/or ask a native speaker (obviously I'm not one) to help you.
Some examples:
- https://bitcore.cc/airdrop.php If you mean address then write address and not wallet. You can't sign a message referencing to a bitcore wallet. A wallet is not an address and vice versa. We could have here much less questions about the confusion for what to sign and how, if wallet would be replace by address in this context

- same page, "PLEASE ENTER YOUR SIGN MESSAGE WITH THE TEXT "AIRDROP", what do you mean by that? I can't really figure out what a "sign message" is. A signed message I know. I know a signature (message signed with a specific key), which is exactly what you want. So perhaps you could write "Please, sign the message "AIRDROP" (without the quotes) with the private key of the address you put in above, and put in here the signature. To sign messages please use your local client. Instructions how to do so can be found here (link)." And please offer first a GUI solution, if it's there. I don't get why you are not communicating officially that at least your qt-Client can do that completely in the GUI, without having to use the console.
I myself am a coder and linux user. I know my way around using the console and know why it's mostly superior to GUIs in context of speed and security. But most of your users don't and they put money on the line with your idea, so I think you are obliged to provide them with most simple and secure option to do s.th. you are asking them for.

- Despite that it's no the most simple way, your instructions assume the wallet is not encrypted. That shouldn't be the case and you especially shouldn't encourage this by putting instructions out there which don't put in consideration your wallet is encrypted.

- new announcement regarding the aidrops and claiming service, "REMEMBER : The claiming at bitcore.cc from the April snapshot will end exactly November, the 2nd, 2017, 12 pm CEST (UTC +2). ", There is just no place on earth where on the 2nd of Nov CEST is the actual timezone. If you look at your clocks in germany and see midnight on 2nd Nov you will be one hour late to the time you stated. You mean CET.
 

And these are just the ones which came to my mind without actually searching for errors. They might look like little slip ups but they all contribute to confuse people and confusion is what you least want. Because confusion lowers the most valuable thing in cryptocurreny which is absolute trust.
So please the next time you put some wording out there, please think twice about it and please ask some native speaker to look over the words. Thank you, I really like the project and so I hope with my constructive criticism I can help to make it a little bit better.

Thank you for your criticism and I actually agree with you. I am the one of two native english speakers now attached to the project so next time I will personally make sure any and all wording is completely clear for the community. That being said, it would also be nice if people would do some research. We, among people in the community, have put out a multitude of tutorials on how to signup for the airdrop. This is just the beginning phase and once distribution is done there should be a great deal less confusion. I hope that you will stay with us and know that we are all constantly working hard on things in the background. 
Hello everybody! I have a question, help please.
Here is a screen with a video about how to register a purse http://prntscr.com/h3670c there "AIRDROP" in quotes
and in the other instruction there are no quotes, how is it correct?
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@Devs

Please step up your game in regards to communication. You have to be much more precise and explicit with your announcements and the whole communication.
Vague wording leads only to confusion and in the end to the most dangerous thing in crpytocurrency uncertainty and unsecurity. Security is the main concept of crpytocurrencies. So please choose your words more wisely and/or ask a native speaker (obviously I'm not one) to help you.
Some examples:
- https://bitcore.cc/airdrop.php If you mean address then write address and not wallet. You can't sign a message referencing to a bitcore wallet. A wallet is not an address and vice versa. We could have here much less questions about the confusion for what to sign and how, if wallet would be replace by address in this context

- same page, "PLEASE ENTER YOUR SIGN MESSAGE WITH THE TEXT "AIRDROP", what do you mean by that? I can't really figure out what a "sign message" is. A signed message I know. I know a signature (message signed with a specific key), which is exactly what you want. So perhaps you could write "Please, sign the message "AIRDROP" (without the quotes) with the private key of the address you put in above, and put in here the signature. To sign messages please use your local client. Instructions how to do so can be found here (link)." And please offer first a GUI solution, if it's there. I don't get why you are not communicating officially that at least your qt-Client can do that completely in the GUI, without having to use the console.
I myself am a coder and linux user. I know my way around using the console and know why it's mostly superior to GUIs in context of speed and security. But most of your users don't and they put money on the line with your idea, so I think you are obliged to provide them with most simple and secure option to do s.th. you are asking them for.

- Despite that it's no the most simple way, your instructions assume the wallet is not encrypted. That shouldn't be the case and you especially shouldn't encourage this by putting instructions out there which don't put in consideration your wallet is encrypted.

- new announcement regarding the aidrops and claiming service, "REMEMBER : The claiming at bitcore.cc from the April snapshot will end exactly November, the 2nd, 2017, 12 pm CEST (UTC +2). ", There is just no place on earth where on the 2nd of Nov CEST is the actual timezone. If you look at your clocks in germany and see midnight on 2nd Nov you will be one hour late to the time you stated. You mean CET.
 

And these are just the ones which came to my mind without actually searching for errors. They might look like little slip ups but they all contribute to confuse people and confusion is what you least want. Because confusion lowers the most valuable thing in cryptocurreny which is absolute trust.
So please the next time you put some wording out there, please think twice about it and please ask some native speaker to look over the words. Thank you, I really like the project and so I hope with my constructive criticism I can help to make it a little bit better.

Thank you for your criticism and I actually agree with you. I am the one of two native english speakers now attached to the project so next time I will personally make sure any and all wording is completely clear for the community. That being said, it would also be nice if people would do some research. We, among people in the community, have put out a multitude of tutorials on how to signup for the airdrop. This is just the beginning phase and once distribution is done there should be a great deal less confusion. I hope that you will stay with us and know that we are all constantly working hard on things in the background. 
I never doubted you are all constantly working hard on things in the background. I just wanted to point that there are some things which are not perfect Smiley
What exactly do you mean by research? Du you mean the people should an find the informations how to do things for themselves? For sure, that's a good and great thing. But the problems I pointed out were not about people not trying to inform themselves, they are about the given information is not valid.

Perhaps this video helps a bit: https://youtu.be/0wENg3VtAU8
It's not perfect because I don't have the best software I think, at least I'm not going to buy one. So I couldn't figure out how to highlight the mouse pointer. Everyone more advanced in the field of screen capturing is welcome to make it better Smiley

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October 28, 2017, 05:23:00 PM
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@Devs

Please step up your game in regards to communication. You have to be much more precise and explicit with your announcements and the whole communication.
Vague wording leads only to confusion and in the end to the most dangerous thing in crpytocurrency uncertainty and unsecurity. Security is the main concept of crpytocurrencies. So please choose your words more wisely and/or ask a native speaker (obviously I'm not one) to help you.
Some examples:
- https://bitcore.cc/airdrop.php If you mean address then write address and not wallet. You can't sign a message referencing to a bitcore wallet. A wallet is not an address and vice versa. We could have here much less questions about the confusion for what to sign and how, if wallet would be replace by address in this context

- same page, "PLEASE ENTER YOUR SIGN MESSAGE WITH THE TEXT "AIRDROP", what do you mean by that? I can't really figure out what a "sign message" is. A signed message I know. I know a signature (message signed with a specific key), which is exactly what you want. So perhaps you could write "Please, sign the message "AIRDROP" (without the quotes) with the private key of the address you put in above, and put in here the signature. To sign messages please use your local client. Instructions how to do so can be found here (link)." And please offer first a GUI solution, if it's there. I don't get why you are not communicating officially that at least your qt-Client can do that completely in the GUI, without having to use the console.
I myself am a coder and linux user. I know my way around using the console and know why it's mostly superior to GUIs in context of speed and security. But most of your users don't and they put money on the line with your idea, so I think you are obliged to provide them with most simple and secure option to do s.th. you are asking them for.

- Despite that it's no the most simple way, your instructions assume the wallet is not encrypted. That shouldn't be the case and you especially shouldn't encourage this by putting instructions out there which don't put in consideration your wallet is encrypted.

- new announcement regarding the aidrops and claiming service, "REMEMBER : The claiming at bitcore.cc from the April snapshot will end exactly November, the 2nd, 2017, 12 pm CEST (UTC +2). ", There is just no place on earth where on the 2nd of Nov CEST is the actual timezone. If you look at your clocks in germany and see midnight on 2nd Nov you will be one hour late to the time you stated. You mean CET.
 

And these are just the ones which came to my mind without actually searching for errors. They might look like little slip ups but they all contribute to confuse people and confusion is what you least want. Because confusion lowers the most valuable thing in cryptocurreny which is absolute trust.
So please the next time you put some wording out there, please think twice about it and please ask some native speaker to look over the words. Thank you, I really like the project and so I hope with my constructive criticism I can help to make it a little bit better.

Thank you for your criticism and I actually agree with you. I am the one of two native english speakers now attached to the project so next time I will personally make sure any and all wording is completely clear for the community. That being said, it would also be nice if people would do some research. We, among people in the community, have put out a multitude of tutorials on how to signup for the airdrop. This is just the beginning phase and once distribution is done there should be a great deal less confusion. I hope that you will stay with us and know that we are all constantly working hard on things in the background.  
I never doubted you are all constantly working hard on things in the background. I just wanted to point that there are some things which are not perfect Smiley
What exactly do you mean by research? Du you mean the people should an find the informations how to do things for themselves? For sure, that's a good and great thing. But the problems I pointed out were not about people not trying to inform themselves, they are about the given information is not valid.

Perhaps this video helps a bit: https://youtu.be/0wENg3VtAU8
It's not perfect because I don't have the best software I think, at least I'm not going to buy one. So I couldn't figure out how to highlight the mouse pointer. Everyone is more advanced in the field of screen capturing is welcome to make it better Smiley

Hello everybody! I have a question, help please.
Here is a screen with a video about how to register a purse http://prntscr.com/h3670c there "AIRDROP" in quotes
and in the other instruction there are no quotes, how is it correct?ы
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October 28, 2017, 05:24:20 PM
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Here is a screen with a video about how to register a purse http://prntscr.com/h3670c there "AIRDROP" in quotes
and in the other instruction there are no quotes, how is it correct?ы
No quotes.

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October 28, 2017, 05:26:25 PM
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Hey BTX fans, I have a couple of questions -:

1. Do you have to register each address that has a balance in you BTX wallet to qualify for the airdrop? I previously registered an address but I only received 3% of that address balance and NOT 3% of the wallet balance.

2. When trying to register additional addresses for the airdrop in the console I get "Error: Please enter the wallet passphrase with walletpassphrase first. (code -13)". My wallet is encrypted and locked but how do I unlock it without actually spending BTX? Surely I don't need to type my passphrase into the console, that would be a security risk?

Thanks!
you have to register every address you want to receive the airdrop. Or jusr put all coins in one address (coin control feature). To sign messages just follow this guide: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1883902.msg23129344#msg23129344

Thanks for the advice and link minestro! All sorted now! I wonder why the instructions are to use the console rather than simply - File --> Sign Message ?
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October 28, 2017, 05:26:28 PM
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@Devs

Please step up your game in regards to communication. You have to be much more precise and explicit with your announcements and the whole communication.
Vague wording leads only to confusion and in the end to the most dangerous thing in crpytocurrency uncertainty and unsecurity. Security is the main concept of crpytocurrencies. So please choose your words more wisely and/or ask a native speaker (obviously I'm not one) to help you.
Some examples:
- https://bitcore.cc/airdrop.php If you mean address then write address and not wallet. You can't sign a message referencing to a bitcore wallet. A wallet is not an address and vice versa. We could have here much less questions about the confusion for what to sign and how, if wallet would be replace by address in this context

- same page, "PLEASE ENTER YOUR SIGN MESSAGE WITH THE TEXT "AIRDROP", what do you mean by that? I can't really figure out what a "sign message" is. A signed message I know. I know a signature (message signed with a specific key), which is exactly what you want. So perhaps you could write "Please, sign the message "AIRDROP" (without the quotes) with the private key of the address you put in above, and put in here the signature. To sign messages please use your local client. Instructions how to do so can be found here (link)." And please offer first a GUI solution, if it's there. I don't get why you are not communicating officially that at least your qt-Client can do that completely in the GUI, without having to use the console.
I myself am a coder and linux user. I know my way around using the console and know why it's mostly superior to GUIs in context of speed and security. But most of your users don't and they put money on the line with your idea, so I think you are obliged to provide them with most simple and secure option to do s.th. you are asking them for.

- Despite that it's no the most simple way, your instructions assume the wallet is not encrypted. That shouldn't be the case and you especially shouldn't encourage this by putting instructions out there which don't put in consideration your wallet is encrypted.

- new announcement regarding the aidrops and claiming service, "REMEMBER : The claiming at bitcore.cc from the April snapshot will end exactly November, the 2nd, 2017, 12 pm CEST (UTC +2). ", There is just no place on earth where on the 2nd of Nov CEST is the actual timezone. If you look at your clocks in germany and see midnight on 2nd Nov you will be one hour late to the time you stated. You mean CET.
 

And these are just the ones which came to my mind without actually searching for errors. They might look like little slip ups but they all contribute to confuse people and confusion is what you least want. Because confusion lowers the most valuable thing in cryptocurreny which is absolute trust.
So please the next time you put some wording out there, please think twice about it and please ask some native speaker to look over the words. Thank you, I really like the project and so I hope with my constructive criticism I can help to make it a little bit better.

Thank you for your criticism and I actually agree with you. I am the one of two native english speakers now attached to the project so next time I will personally make sure any and all wording is completely clear for the community. That being said, it would also be nice if people would do some research. We, among people in the community, have put out a multitude of tutorials on how to signup for the airdrop. This is just the beginning phase and once distribution is done there should be a great deal less confusion. I hope that you will stay with us and know that we are all constantly working hard on things in the background.  
I never doubted you are all constantly working hard on things in the background. I just wanted to point that there are some things which are not perfect Smiley
What exactly do you mean by research? Du you mean the people should an find the informations how to do things for themselves? For sure, that's a good and great thing. But the problems I pointed out were not about people not trying to inform themselves, they are about the given information is not valid.

Perhaps this video helps a bit: https://youtu.be/0wENg3VtAU8
It's not perfect because I don't have the best software I think, at least I'm not going to buy one. So I couldn't figure out how to highlight the mouse pointer. Everyone is more advanced in the field of screen capturing is welcome to make it better Smiley


I was more outlining problems that we are having rather than the ones you pointed out. IMHO you should always exhaust all of your options first before asking others. The tutorials that are out there are indeed valid and they have also been disseminated to all social media channels. I just agree with you that the language was very weird on the signature part of the website signup so maybe it has caused some confusion.
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October 28, 2017, 05:29:14 PM
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I know there is a deadline to be signed up for the 25% airdrop, but what about after that?  How long will people be able to register their addresses for future 3% airdrops? 
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October 28, 2017, 05:40:30 PM
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I was more outlining problems that we are having rather than the ones you pointed out. IMHO you should always exhaust all of your options first before asking others. The tutorials that are out there are indeed valid and they have also been disseminated to all social media channels. I just agree with you that the language was very weird on the signature part of the website signup so maybe it has caused some confusion.
Yes, that's always an argument. But since it's in your interest to establish a coin it should also be in your interest to provide some sort of service. You do that by having instructions on your bitcore.cc and all the other channels. IMHO the moment a user asks a question is not bad or unconvenient. It's a chance. In many cases you are being shown a problem and it should be your focus to overcome that and therefore make your product better. Blaming the user was never a good idea.
You need to take into consideration that there's a chance for every user, who asks a question, there are five other users out there, having the same problem, not going the "hard" way and posting a question. They instead just walk away and never look back again. That's the real damage.
Yes, I partly agree there are some, but really only a very few, who don't undertake any efforts to find answers for the easiest questions (we even perhaps call them basics, like "will I get airdrops if my wallet-software is not online at the moment of the airdrop snapshot"). This ones you can't help. There I'm with you.

A good idea would be a FAQ section, perhaps on bitcore.cc. There you could answer every question at least asked twice Smiley Like the one above my post.

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October 28, 2017, 06:56:33 PM
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I was more outlining problems that we are having rather than the ones you pointed out. IMHO you should always exhaust all of your options first before asking others. The tutorials that are out there are indeed valid and they have also been disseminated to all social media channels. I just agree with you that the language was very weird on the signature part of the website signup so maybe it has caused some confusion.
Yes, that's always an argument. But since it's in your interest to establish a coin it should also be in your interest to provide some sort of service. You do that by having instructions on your bitcore.cc and all the other channels. IMHO the moment a user asks a question is not bad or unconvenient. It's a chance. In many cases you are being shown a problem and it should be your focus to overcome that and therefore make your product better. Blaming the user was never a good idea.
You need to take into consideration that there's a chance for every user, who asks a question, there are five other users out there, having the same problem, not going the "hard" way and posting a question. They instead just walk away and never look back again. That's the real damage.
Yes, I partly agree there are some, but really only a very few, who don't undertake any efforts to find answers for the easiest questions (we even perhaps call them basics, like "will I get airdrops if my wallet-software is not online at the moment of the airdrop snapshot"). This ones you can't help. There I'm with you.

A good idea would be a FAQ section, perhaps on bitcore.cc. There you could answer every question at least asked twice Smiley Like the one above my post.

Haha good suggestions!  Wink
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October 28, 2017, 07:06:11 PM
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When you write a passphrase to decrypt the wallet for several seconds it shows "null"
Is it how it supposed to be? What is "null" means?
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October 28, 2017, 07:14:03 PM
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When you write a passphrase to decrypt the wallet for several seconds it shows "null"
Is it how it supposed to be? What is "null" means?
"Null" means "successfully"

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October 28, 2017, 07:24:49 PM
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October 28, 2017, 07:27:04 PM
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I know there is a deadline to be signed up for the 25% airdrop, but what about after that?  How long will people be able to register their addresses for future 3% airdrops? 
This deadlines is for 25% airdrop after that anyone with more than 10BTX coins in his wallet will be elligible for the airdrop provided he meets all conditions

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October 28, 2017, 07:31:09 PM
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Need to register again for 25% airdrop? Once i registered for 6% and i received.
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October 28, 2017, 07:39:58 PM
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October 28, 2017, 08:02:26 PM
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Sorry, I wanted to highlight the background instead of the text.

My point was to stress that the minimum for the airdrop has gone from 10 to 1 BTX.

Why...??
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October 28, 2017, 08:03:55 PM
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Why you always link the image to "radikal.ru"?  Please don't do that.
Why? Does this service work badly?

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October 28, 2017, 08:07:42 PM
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Sorry, I wanted to highlight the background instead of the text.

My point was to stress that the minimum for the airdrop has gone from 10 to 1 BTX.

Why...??
Probably that small participants could also take part in airdrops. In this way the Bitcore community will expand significantly.

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