/r/btc loons already twisting Antbleed facts to meet their agenda

[BillyBobZorton]

/r/btc strikes back with some obvious paid Bitmain shills to spam the forums claiming how this is a blockstream attack to try to discredit Jihad Wu and BUcoin, based on the amount of people from the "Dragon's Den" (this is how this cult call smarter people than them that support segwit, blockstream and whatever):

https://www.reddit.com/r/btc/comments/67rdpo/list_of_twitter_accounts_who_were_following_the/

The insanity has reached a point of comedy, even Andreas has called them out:


https://twitter.com/aantonop/status/857541676784652289

This whole thing is hilarious. We have a single guy that could kill the network at will and they'll rationalize this to end up somehow blaming Core/blockstream. These guys need to be put into a straitjacket.

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[jonald_fyookball]

https://blog.bitmain.com/en/antminer-firmware-update-april-2017/

draw your own conclusions.

Sorry Billy Bob, this won't change anyone's opinions about segwit, blockstream, or much else.

[Lauda]

https://blog.bitmain.com/en/antminer-firmware-update-april-2017/

draw your own conclusions.

The backdoor ain't no bug. It is a feature as described by that statement. Everyone who bought these devices is affected unless they patch up. You're giving someone like this too much credibility, but this is due to you being completely detached from reality. There is no such thing as an unbiased opinion for you anymore.
As I've previously said it, regardless of who you support or which client you run, if you support Bitmain after ASCIBOOST and Antbleed, you're either delusional, a shill or both.

[7788bitcoin]

I think it is obvious that the backdoor is purposely included, although most likely there is no plan to use it. However, this is still a betrayal of the trust of everyone using the antminers.

[franky1]

I think it is obvious that the backdoor is purposely included, although most likely there is no plan to use it. However, this is still a betrayal of the trust of everyone using the antminers. a node

FTFY and now you are talking about the bip9 node bypass backdoor

PS even gmax and luke both admit that using the 'anyonecanspend' is a backdoor to go soft. and intent to make it easier to do things soft in the future by opening the backdoor wider which they did exactly that with bip9 and UASF and more things to come

now imagine this
what if hearne did what blockstream devs did.. (the only way to possibly get blockstreamists to think outside of the box)

[BillyBobZorton]

https://blog.bitmain.com/en/antminer-firmware-update-april-2017/

draw your own conclusions.

Sorry Billy Bob, this won't change anyone's opinions about segwit, blockstream, or much else.

Jihad Wu's killswitch got caught. What else could Jihad Wu do but to address it as a "bug" and not a feature to save face and patch it?

Sorry jonald, try thinking before pressing "post" next time.

[Kprawn]

Blaming everything on Core developers have been a thing for a long time now, so I totally expected this. I do not see Core developers trying to

hide this or quickly patching this with some obscure "secret" proprietary code? In the end nothing anyone says will change the others sides

opinion about any of this. This word war will continue into infinity..... a total waste of time. 

[European Central Bank]

it's freaking pathetic to see what r/btc has become. i started off checking there sometimes and then rapidly found myself rolling my eyes at almost every thread. at this point it's beyond redemption.

[franky1]

it's freaking pathetic to see what r/btc has become. i started off checking there sometimes and then rapidly found myself rolling my eyes at almost every thread. at this point it's beyond redemption.

same goes for r/bitcoin

best advice just stay away from reddit... its just like fox news

[FiendCoin]

https://blog.bitmain.com/en/antminer-firmware-update-april-2017/

draw your own conclusions.

Sorry Billy Bob, this won't change anyone's opinions about segwit, blockstream, or much else.

From Reddit,"Personally I don't care if bitmain is shady or not. All I care about is the blocksize. " -jonald_fyookball

Most ignorant thing I've seen all day and that's saying a lot.

So, you don't care if bitmain (with 70% of miner production and largest mining pool) is shady BUT you do care if blockstream is shady?

AND you're not a shill right?

[franky1]

bitmain (with 70% of miner production and largest mining pool)

proof of claim?
and dont quote reddit / twitter

[Lauda]

proof of claim?
and dont quote reddit / twitter

Estimations based on reasonable assessment of the ecosystem. Does that even ring a bell for you? Almost ALL of your posts don't have any sources, yet you keep asking for them in nonsensical situations. Please give me the huge list of current ASIC manufacturers (who sell to individuals in normal quantities). 

[leopard2]

As I've previously said it, regardless of who you support or which client you run, if you support Bitmain after ASCIBOOST and Antbleed, you're either delusional, a shill or both.

I would support every single word in that sentence. I am not sure what their agenda is but they have a tendency to want to control and shutdown things, and ASICBOOST would give them global control over BTC mining.

Too much power, too easy to abuse, nah-ah.  

[Lauda]

As I've previously said it, regardless of who you support or which client you run, if you support Bitmain after ASCIBOOST and Antbleed, you're either delusional, a shill or both.

I would support every single word in that sentence. I am not sure what their agenda is but they have a tendency to want to control and shutdown things, and ASICBOOST would give them global control over BTC mining.

Too much power, too easy to abuse, nah-ah.  

If you need a 'proof-of-hypocrisy' you can imagine one of the following scenarios:
1) Replace Bitmain with Bitfury (a Segwit supporting pool).
2) Replace Bitmain with Blockstream.
Every single BU supporter would be screaming at everyone, even their families about the evil that is Bitfury/Blockstream in this scenario.

[The One]

https://blog.bitmain.com/en/antminer-firmware-update-april-2017/

draw your own conclusions.

Sorry Billy Bob, this won't change anyone's opinions about segwit, blockstream, or much else.

Jihad Wu's killswitch got caught. What else could Jihad Wu do but to address it as a "bug" and not a feature to save face and patch it?

Sorry jonald, try thinking before pressing "post" next time.

Is there any evidence JW used it?

[franky1]

proof of claim?
and dont quote reddit / twitter

Estimations based on reasonable assessment of the ecosystem. Does that even ring a bell for you? Almost ALL of your posts don't have any sources, yet you keep asking for them in nonsensical situations. Please give me the huge list of current ASIC manufacturers (who sell to individuals in normal quantities).  

i canaan should mention a few, but ill leave you to ebang your heads against a wall to show your "estimates" and "assessments" claims. also i am not gonna get baited into the loaded questions of useless hardware such as USB devices. so i will just let you get a bitfuryous about me not spoonfeeding you the data, and instead wait for you to show where you lot got your 70% figures from.

too many people are quoting 70% so i want to see your source

hopefully i have not been too subtle

[jonald_fyookball]

https://blog.bitmain.com/en/antminer-firmware-update-april-2017/

draw your own conclusions.

Sorry Billy Bob, this won't change anyone's opinions about segwit, blockstream, or much else.

Jihad Wu's killswitch got caught. What else could Jihad Wu do but to address it as a "bug" and not a feature to save face and patch it?

Sorry jonald, try thinking before pressing "post" next time.

It's been open source for almost 2 years.  I guess that won't stop you from trying to make it sound secretive or malicious, right?

[Lauda]

Is there any evidence JW used it?

Nobody ever claimed that it was used. The claim is that it exists, and that is a fact.

i canaan mention a few, but ill leave you to ebang your heads against a wall to show your "estimates" and "assessments" claims. also i am not gonna get baited into the loaded questions of useless hardware such as USB devices. so i will just let you get a bitfuryous about me not spoonfeeding you the data, and instead wait for you to show where you lot got your 70% figures from.

too many people are quoting 70% so i want to see your source

There is no source. That's the estimate that people believe Bitmain has produced so far. I doubt you could provide a source for any exact number (unless Bitmain publicizes the number of shipped miners, but even that is not enough).

It's been open source for almost 2 years.  I guess that won't stop you from trying to make it sound secretive or malicious, right?

Just because it was open source, that doesn't mean that it's benevolent. Nobody caught on, until now.

[franky1]

There is no source. That's the estimate that people believe Bitmain has produced so far. I doubt you could provide a source for any exact number (unless Bitmain publicizes the number of shipped miners, but even that is not enough).

so in short you have just seen the 70% nay sayer /abstainer and just named that your 70% "bitmain" estimate... (facepalm)

[Lauda]

There is no source. That's the estimate that people believe Bitmain has produced so far. I doubt you could provide a source for any exact number (unless Bitmain publicizes the number of shipped miners, but even that is not enough).

so in short you have just seen the 70% nay sayer /abstainer and just named that your 70% "bitmain" estimate... (facepalm)

You don't have any proof that supports any other views. This is a reasonable estimate considering the current state of the ASIC manufacturing industry. The only one who should facepalm is yourself for your own ignorance.