BAIKAL - 5 STAR PRODUCT 1 STAR SERVICE - BAD BUSINESS PRACTISE

[bittawm]

Hey all,

I have been busting my balls since the first group buy to try and get this community stocked up with the gear they want (we all want more... lets face it)

to everyone who ordered quads and cubes...congratulations... I hope you get them soon and ROI ASAP.

to everyone else who had BTC and wanted to pay, however missed out.....I apologize......I am in the same boat.

I could not even place an order myself for any quads because of how shit their customer service is (BITTAWM DIDNT EVEN GET 1 QUAD)

These rats didn't even have the decency to respond to me after months of working together, only got an email to say "sorry out of stock" even though I have been on their case EVERY SINGLE DAY FOR MONTHS.

pretty fucking sickly really. I am locking all other threads and will be looking forward with working with new partners.

TOP TOP TOP TOP PROUCTS - A+++++++++
SHIT SHIT SHIT SERVICE: - F

at least they are delivering on product (so far) but I find it extremely unprofessional how they have been operating.

I would have loved to facilitate a quad group buy here but we all got forgotten about it seems

post your experiences with baikal:

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[cryptotore]

My experience:

19.04: First time I sent Baikal an e-mail. My account hadn't been activated, so I asked him on e-mail to order a Cube miner.
20.04: He told me I could order 1 Cube. I bought one.
21.04: It was shipped.
24.04: It was at my doorstep, have been mining ever since.

25.04: I saw the ad for Quad Cube on Baikal Lee facebook page. 22 min after the ad had been posted, I contacted him again and ordered 1 Quad Cube. I bought one.
xx.05: To be continued..  

[Tai_Pan]

My experience:

19.04: First time I sent Baikal an e-mail. My account hadn't been activated, so I asked him on e-mail to order a Cube miner.
20.04: He told me I could order 1 Cube. I bought one.
21.04: It was shipped.
24.04: It was at my doorstep, have been mining ever since.

25.04: I saw the ad for Quad Cube on Baikal Lee facebook page. 22 min after the ad had been posted, I contacted him again and ordered 1 Quad Cube. I bought one.
xx.05: To be continued..  

Where did you contacted them? Email, skype, facebook?
I am sending emails and skype messages for the last 6-7 weeks and nobody replies.

[baskanx]

Amateur firm 

[VoskCoin]

Currently on my phone so it'll be a bit short.


Long story short they say out of stock then they say in stock then I say great id like to buy they say contact our Skype, one baikal Skype attempts to scam thousands of dollars from multiple users. Baikal does nothing to combat this.

Baikal says contact our skype for order, skype baikal says contact baikal@baikalminer.com to finalize.

I go through this ridiculous loop to order these miners and then, mind you this is the third time this has happened.

They say they're sold out no idea when new stock will be here.

What the fucking fuck, wasted hours of my time. It's a shame because they seem to have an awesome miner, seems like I'll never know.

[bittawm]

Currently on my phone so it'll be a bit short.


Long story short they say out of stock then they say in stock then I say great id like to buy they say contact our Skype, one baikal Skype attempts to scam thousands of dollars from multiple users. Baikal does nothing to combat this.

Baikal says contact our skype for order, skype baikal says contact baikal@baikalminer.com to finalize.

I go through this ridiculous loop to order these miners and then, mind you this is the third time this has happened.

They say they're sold out no idea when new stock will be here.

What the fucking fuck, wasted hours of my time. It's a shame because they seem to have an awesome miner, seems like I'll never know.

absolutely crazy they would not let me facilitate this for a SUPER SMOOTH TRANSACTION, I offered to pay them more if they could get a constant supply and regular communication but still nothing.....

[drsub]

Product is amazing.

Business skills = ZERO
Horrible customer service.

I'm a old customer myself, i owe at least ONE of every baikal product, Mini, Mini Quads, A900, Cube and was looking for the Quad Cube.
E-mailed them multiple times, spoke on skype they guaranteed me i would get one and i got NADA !
I'm with you bittawm, lets join forces and look for a good company that we can do business with.

Thanks.

[bittawm]

My experience:

19.04: First time I sent Baikal an e-mail. My account hadn't been activated, so I asked him on e-mail to order a Cube miner.
20.04: He told me I could order 1 Cube. I bought one.
21.04: It was shipped.
24.04: It was at my doorstep, have been mining ever since.

25.04: I saw the ad for Quad Cube on Baikal Lee facebook page. 22 min after the ad had been posted, I contacted him again and ordered 1 Quad Cube. I bought one.
xx.05: To be continued..  

god knows why he didn't help me out. offered to buy upto 500 cubes or equivil in cubes (because I knew the community would easily raise this)

[bittawm]

Product is amazing.

Business skills = ZERO
Horrible customer service.

I'm a old customer myself, i owe at least ONE of every baikal product, Mini, Mini Quads, A900, Cube and was looking for the Quad Cube.
E-mailed them multiple times, spoke on skype they guaranteed me i would get one and i got NADA !
I'm with you bittawm, lets join forces and look for a good company that we can do business with.

Thanks.

top shit mate, thank you for your support.

[charles2k]

I can only agree with you.
In the past I bought from them quite good quantity, but I were not able to get any quad. Absolutely no communications, no answer as small childrens...

[baskanx]

Wait for me

Can I learn CIP code
http://i.hizliresim.com/EgLpzB.jpg


Bitfury ASIC chip ? or Asic A4 chips ?

tankyou

[TracerX]

Wait for me

Can I learn CIP code
http://i.hizliresim.com/EgLpzB.jpg


Bitfury ASIC chip ? or Asic A4 chips ?

tankyou

I believe these devices are actually FPGAs.  You wouldn't be able to go back and add multiple new alogs via firmware if they are actually ASIC chips.  Correct me if I'm wrong, people.

[Longsnowsm]

Wait for me

Can I learn CIP code
http://i.hizliresim.com/EgLpzB.jpg


Bitfury ASIC chip ? or Asic A4 chips ?

tankyou

I believe these devices are actually FPGAs.  You wouldn't be able to go back and add multiple new alogs via firmware if they are actually ASIC chips.  Correct me if I'm wrong, people.

I believe you are correct TracerX.  This isn't your typical "ASIC" miner so you can't just grab bitfury or A4 chips and get the job done.

[baskanx]

Wait for me

Can I learn CIP code
http://i.hizliresim.com/EgLpzB.jpg


Bitfury ASIC chip ? or Asic A4 chips ?

tankyou

I believe these devices are actually FPGAs.  You wouldn't be able to go back and add multiple new alogs via firmware if they are actually ASIC chips.  Correct me if I'm wrong, people.

FPGA Are you sure. It's easier to do this job

http://i.hizliresim.com/EgL6bz.jpg     9 cips? FPGA ?

[Gunna01]

My experience:

19.04: First time I sent Baikal an e-mail. My account hadn't been activated, so I asked him on e-mail to order a Cube miner.
20.04: He told me I could order 1 Cube. I bought one.
21.04: It was shipped.
24.04: It was at my doorstep, have been mining ever since.

25.04: I saw the ad for Quad Cube on Baikal Lee facebook page. 22 min after the ad had been posted, I contacted him again and ordered 1 Quad Cube. I bought one.
xx.05: To be continued..  

god knows why he didn't help me out. offered to buy upto 500 cubes or equivil in cubes (because I knew the community would easily raise this)

I believe they don't get shipments of 500 though, that's your assumption. I believe they get blocks of 100 and dont want it all going to 1 buyer. Also from a business point of view their stock moves at RRP just fine. Where is the advantage of selling all their stock to one person who could be a single miner at a reduced price?

Their name is out there now and I said in the group buy thread that no group buy would happen. They sell out in hours, they dont need help moving their stock.

[bittawm]

My experience:

19.04: First time I sent Baikal an e-mail. My account hadn't been activated, so I asked him on e-mail to order a Cube miner.
20.04: He told me I could order 1 Cube. I bought one.
21.04: It was shipped.
24.04: It was at my doorstep, have been mining ever since.

25.04: I saw the ad for Quad Cube on Baikal Lee facebook page. 22 min after the ad had been posted, I contacted him again and ordered 1 Quad Cube. I bought one.
xx.05: To be continued..  

god knows why he didn't help me out. offered to buy upto 500 cubes or equivil in cubes (because I knew the community would easily raise this)

I believe they don't get shipments of 500 though, that's your assumption. I believe they get blocks of 100 and dont want it all going to 1 buyer. Also from a business point of view their stock moves at RRP just fine. Where is the advantage of selling all their stock to one person who could be a single miner at a reduced price?

Their name is out there now and I said in the group buy thread that no group buy would happen. They sell out in hours, they dont need help moving their stock.

this time there wasn't a limit on quantity ?? seems like the sold to few people.

I didnt offer to buy them all for me I offered to buy them all for the community and send them a spreadsheet with order details shipped direct. I offered to OVER PAY (not under pay) just to get a constant supply for us.

it would have been way smoother. just a bit of transparency is all we are after.

[ATCkit]

....and here I thought​ it was only me they wouldn't take money from when I wanted to order. Several emails and hours of work resulted in me getting 5 minis between Sept and March. Guess I won't be whining under my breath anymore. I should count myself lucky.

[not.you]

Well the good news is I found a place you can buy baikal mini miners.  https://www.aliexpress.com/item/2016-explosion-models-X11-Baikal-Mini-Miner-Spec-BAIKAL-X11-150MH-s-algorithm-DASH-Minerals-Low/32668800138.html

The bad news is that it cost $108,566.85

[Starkz]

There are other sellers on aliexpress with more reasonable prices. Is aliexpress a good place to turn to for miners?

[not.you]

There are other sellers on aliexpress with more reasonable prices. Is aliexpress a good place to turn to for miners?

Personally I think they are all overpriced on there but I believe it is relatively safe to purchase there.  They use an escrow system so you release the funds to the seller after you are satisfied with the item.  I have never personally had to dispute a purchase on aliexpress but I have seen people post around here who did and they did get their money back when they asked for it.

[jackbox]

There are other sellers on aliexpress with more reasonable prices. Is aliexpress a good place to turn to for miners?

I purchase items on Aliexpress frequently. Your experience depends on the seller. But since Aliexpress forces every sale into an escrow system I have always received a refund when I had a problem. The seller doesn't get paid until you confirm receipt of the item or the delivery time windows has expired (usually a long time). After receiving it Aliexpress will notify you to confirm receipt or you have seven days to file a dispute for DOA, not as described, etc. I often find just messaging the seller gets a refund when I have an issue as they don't like disputes filed with Aliexpress (I think too many and they cannot sell any more). For the most part on Aliexpress I get what I paid for at a really good price. Just don't buy from jokers with the ridiculous prices.

[Tai_Pan]

My experience:

19.04: First time I sent Baikal an e-mail. My account hadn't been activated, so I asked him on e-mail to order a Cube miner.
20.04: He told me I could order 1 Cube. I bought one.
21.04: It was shipped.
24.04: It was at my doorstep, have been mining ever since.

25.04: I saw the ad for Quad Cube on Baikal Lee facebook page. 22 min after the ad had been posted, I contacted him again and ordered 1 Quad Cube. I bought one.
xx.05: To be continued..  

god knows why he didn't help me out. offered to buy upto 500 cubes or equivil in cubes (because I knew the community would easily raise this)

Well shit, bittawm! Maybe they just got scared of such a quantity.

[cloudedic]

Hi baikal
Please reply to email
Thank you

[Tai_Pan]

Did anyone from those who paid through bank transfer got a sign / shippment proof from baikal?

Thanks.

[cryptotore]

Did anyone from those who paid through bank transfer got a sign / shippment proof from baikal?

Thanks.

They wont start shipping until 15.may!

[kodokbuduk]

Did anyone from those who paid through bank transfer got a sign / shippment proof from baikal?

Thanks.

Nope, not yet

[Tai_Pan]

Guys you should be AWARE:

After weeks of trying I got a reply from baikal about a Quad.
They asked me the details about my order.I gave them all the details and they sent me the amount to pay.
Shipping+Quad 3343 USD.Since I wanted to pay in BTC they sent me that amount also: 2.906 BTC.

Now I know very well that there are differences between the exchanges but almost 600$ difference.........something is very fishy.
I sent them a reply stating this issue and what do you think? Of course no more reply.

BE AWARE!!!!!!

[usao]

I just sent my wire transfer today, it's night there so I haven't contacted them to see if they received it or not. Bank said it could take up to 10 days to clear and be available funds in their account.
Hope to get a shipping date once they have the funds...

[coralreefer]

I sent a couple email, but they never responded...just too many issues dealing with them right now so I'm going to pass at this time...maybe if the group buy works out eventually I can jump in there.

[newtybar]

Let's see been trying to get something for weeks.  Website took forever to register and it is a piece of crud.

Told to email for preorder, which I did and provided exact required details.  Get a response and told to order over Skype, sent the specs over there referencing the email and never received a response.  Other members tried to order via Skype and told to contact through email.  Spooked me out a bit (especially with all the other people experiencing odd things).  Next thing you know, Twitter says they closed presale, so I guess it was legit.  I Twittered them to ask what happened considering we were going back and forth for days.

Then last night I receive a weird Skype message in perfect English from them that stated, "Sorry don't want to be a bother but I believe it is Friday morning over there right now and wanted to catch you just in case you happen to find stock and if you did, we could do what needs to be done before the weekend."

[Starkz]

Let's see been trying to get something for weeks.  Website took forever to register and it is a piece of crud.

Told to email for preorder, which I did and provided exact required details.  Get a response and told to order over Skype, sent the specs over there referencing the email and never received a response.  Other members tried to order via Skype and told to contact through email.  Spooked me out a bit (especially with all the other people experiencing odd things).  Next thing you know, Twitter says they closed presale, so I guess it was legit.  I Twittered them to ask what happened considering we were going back and forth for days.

Then last night I receive a weird Skype message in perfect English from them that stated, "Sorry don't want to be a bother but I believe it is Friday morning over there right now and wanted to catch you just in case you happen to find stock and if you did, we could do what needs to be done before the weekend."

They have a Twitter? This is the strangest business I've tried to deal with, seems multiple people trying to learn business communication at once.

[baskanx]

Wait for me

Can I learn CIP code
http://i.hizliresim.com/EgLpzB.jpg


Bitfury ASIC chip ? or Asic A4 chips ?

tankyou

I believe these devices are actually FPGAs.  You wouldn't be able to go back and add multiple new alogs via firmware if they are actually ASIC chips.  Correct me if I'm wrong, people.

Correct detection FPGA

I'm negotiating with Chinese companies

They want a picture to make a copy

My only problem is the chip code

[chup]

Well the good news is I found a place you can buy baikal mini miners.  https://www.aliexpress.com/item/2016-explosion-models-X11-Baikal-Mini-Miner-Spec-BAIKAL-X11-150MH-s-algorithm-DASH-Minerals-Low/32668800138.html

The bad news is that it cost $108,566.85

You can relief yourself. Use referral link in my signature and get back 7-10% off Your AliExpress purchases...  
Profit.  

[omshree]

Well the good news is I found a place you can buy baikal mini miners.  https://www.aliexpress.com/item/2016-explosion-models-X11-Baikal-Mini-Miner-Spec-BAIKAL-X11-150MH-s-algorithm-DASH-Minerals-Low/32668800138.html

The bad news is that it cost $108,566.85

You can relief yourself. Use referral link in my signature and get back 7-10% off Your AliExpress purchases...  
Profit.  

Did any idiot ever bought something at those nosebleedingly high prices?

[cryptotore]

Guys you should be AWARE:

After weeks of trying I got a reply from baikal about a Quad.
They asked me the details about my order.I gave them all the details and they sent me the amount to pay.
Shipping+Quad 3343 USD.Since I wanted to pay in BTC they sent me that amount also: 2.906 BTC.

Now I know very well that there are differences between the exchanges but almost 600$ difference.........something is very fishy.
I sent them a reply stating this issue and what do you think? Of course no more reply.

BE AWARE!!!!!!

I'm aware! Paid 3700 USD for 1 quad.. Will probably never ROI, but hopefully I will have another toy sometime in May..

[wolf_miner]

Hi, by the way, any news about the availability of the second batch of miner cube? How many cube are released in the first batch, it seems that only one or two hundreds are sold.

Cheers W_M

[JPP1972]

Toc Toc..... Baikal???  Is there someone out there ??
Do you want to respond to all of these things or is all ok???
What are your plans about a correct system to place order in the future or you think that the system that you use now is perfect?
All forum want answers... and  i think that the minimum is that you place an answer ..... a complete answer........

[Dysmen]

Finally I successfully bought baikal cube miner from x11miners. tk

[Starkz]

Seems baikal is offloading their inventory to middlemen, noticing a bunch of preorder offers with higher prices on china eCommerce site

[bittawm]

Seems baikal is offloading their inventory to middlemen, noticing a bunch of preorder offers with higher prices on china eCommerce site

they are dumb as fuck, I offered to pay more so we could secure a deal and they just ignored me

[pikachuy]

Seems baikal is offloading their inventory to middlemen, noticing a bunch of preorder offers with higher prices on china eCommerce site

they are dumb as fuck, I offered to pay more so we could secure a deal and they just ignored me

Quick question bittawm, what nationality are you? I got a feeling not Chinese, or else, you would of secured a deal easily. Not to sound racist, but it's like when every time I go eat Dim Sum, they usually cater to the ones that speaks Chinese... lol. (Don't worry, I'm Asian... lol)

[ed20]

Hi, I also want buy a Baikal miner Quad-CUBE "Hash Rate:1200MH/s(±10%)" in a group.

My experiences with baikal were also not the best in the past!
In january I wants buy 10 baikal mini, but I don't get response my e-Mails, so I think that they don't want my BTCs.

So I hope to get my order faster and better by a group-buy here in the bitcointalk commuinity.

@bittawm: can you please create a list of all people here, who wants buy and which amount?

I see that baikal products are available on alibaba, so maybe order it there?:
http://www.alibaba.com/trade/search?fsb=y&IndexArea=product_en&CatId=&SearchText=baikal

Best regards to all!
ed

[bittawm]

Hi, I also want buy a Baikal miner Quad-CUBE "Hash Rate:1200MH/s(±10%)" in a group.

My experiences with baikal were also not the best in the past!
In january I wants buy 10 baikal mini, but I don't get response my e-Mails, so I think that they don't want my BTCs.

So I hope to get my order faster and better by a group-buy here in the bitcointalk commuinity.

@bittawm: can you please create a list of all people here, who wants buy and which amount?

I see that baikal products are available on alibaba, so maybe order it there?:
http://www.alibaba.com/trade/search?fsb=y&IndexArea=product_en&CatId=&SearchText=baikal

Best regards to all!
ed

Not interested going through alibaba/aliexpress

[drsub]

This last move by Baikal is totally strange.
1st they never did a pre-order for ANY of their products, second the way of ordering thru e-mail was also never used before.
I think they just wanted to dump all these machines now before the new ibelink comes to the playground, because after the new ibelink their machines won't be worth what they are charging for them today.

Has anyone got a shippment date for the Quads? I think they dump all this pre-order ot make sure they get sold before ibelink, that's my 2c.
I think they don't even have them ready.

[usao]

Are you talking about this? 10GH/s @ 760W?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A4PJTFU4YRw&feature=youtu.be

[drsub]

Are you talking about this? 10GH/s @ 760W?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A4PJTFU4YRw&feature=youtu.be

Yep!

[usao]

Are you talking about this? 10GH/s @ 760W?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A4PJTFU4YRw&feature=youtu.be

Yep!

All sold out...

[jwarren81]

I've made three separate orders from baikal through their Skype account over the last six months and have had no issues with them.  When they had inventory to sell, they were prompt and shipped within 24 hours.  When they were out of stock, they stated as such.

They make a stellar product that is in extreme demand, and as expected are probably sold out again.  They probably had offers from plenty of people wanting their entire inventory, people with a lot deeper pockets than most of us.  The fact that they shipped to even a few in the community here is nice to see.  They didn't have to really.  I can understand people being frustrated when they sell out, but there really is nothing that can be done, so why spend energy on it?  They could continue to sell out their inventories without anyone here buying a single one, so why should they care?  In fact, they probably do care, but really, who has time to coddle a bunch of people when they have money to make?

[Starkz]

I've made three separate orders from baikal through their Skype account over the last six months and have had no issues with them.  When they had inventory to sell, they were prompt and shipped within 24 hours.  When they were out of stock, they stated as such.

They make a stellar product that is in extreme demand, and as expected are probably sold out again.  They probably had offers from plenty of people wanting their entire inventory, people with a lot deeper pockets than most of us.  The fact that they shipped to even a few in the community here is nice to see.  They didn't have to really.  I can understand people being frustrated when they sell out, but there really is nothing that can be done, so why spend energy on it?  They could continue to sell out their inventories without anyone here buying a single one, so why should they care?  In fact, they probably do care, but really, who has time to coddle a bunch of people when they have money to make?

Why would they care? Because one day they will not be the king of the block, competitors will rise. Just because they sell out does not mean they should not work on their customer service or business communication.

[VoskCoin]

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1897027.0;topicseen

It looks like they will be out of business soon, and quite honestly I'm looking forward to it what a nightmare it was trying for weeks to order with them, to no avail.

[jwarren81]

That post has nothing to do with Baikal so I'm not sure what you are referring to.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1897027.0;topicseen

It looks like they will be out of business soon, and quite honestly I'm looking forward to it what a nightmare it was trying for weeks to order with them, to no avail.

[jwarren81]

I've yet to see any evidence that they have done anything to screw anyone over.  They are out of stock and stated as much.  As far as I know, they have never taken money and not delivered.  When they had stock and received money, they have shipped reliably and quickly.  And they have been more open than they have to be to when asked about inventory and upcoming products.  The only issue I have really seen is with people claiming to be in negotiations with them, and then most people simply buying directly from Baikal instead.  Then the negotiator is upset that they weren't able to get anything.  Show me an instance where Baikal promised an allotment to someone, then failed to deliver on that.  I haven't see it.

Every time I saw a so called group buy posted here, I simply went to Baikal and made the purchase directly without any issue, when the inventory was available.  If a so called group buy is organized by a third party without any contractual agreements with the vendor, then the group buy really didn't exist in the first place and the vendor has no obligation to set anything aside for them.  Especially when they have enough orders to clear inventory without it.

Seems like a lot of smoke and no actual fire.

I've made three separate orders from baikal through their Skype account over the last six months and have had no issues with them.  When they had inventory to sell, they were prompt and shipped within 24 hours.  When they were out of stock, they stated as such.

They make a stellar product that is in extreme demand, and as expected are probably sold out again.  They probably had offers from plenty of people wanting their entire inventory, people with a lot deeper pockets than most of us.  The fact that they shipped to even a few in the community here is nice to see.  They didn't have to really.  I can understand people being frustrated when they sell out, but there really is nothing that can be done, so why spend energy on it?  They could continue to sell out their inventories without anyone here buying a single one, so why should they care?  In fact, they probably do care, but really, who has time to coddle a bunch of people when they have money to make?

Why would they care? Because one day they will not be the king of the block, competitors will rise. Just because they sell out does not mean they should not work on their customer service or business communication.

[Ally_Rob]

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1897027.0;topicseen

It looks like they will be out of business soon, and quite honestly I'm looking forward to it what a nightmare it was trying for weeks to order with them, to no avail.

 Lets be honest here.
 Its a nightmare not able to place an order? seriously?
  a nightmare, to the point of them needing to go out of business?
Yes, Like you ive been trying for week to get information/miners. Yes we,i,you are missing out.
 But wouldnt consider it a nightmare. jesus.
That aside.

Has anyone had any recent contact, news to report?

[VoskCoin]

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1897027.0;topicseen

It looks like they will be out of business soon, and quite honestly I'm looking forward to it what a nightmare it was trying for weeks to order with them, to no avail.

 Lets be honest here.
 Its a nightmare not able to place an order? seriously?
  a nightmare, to the point of them needing to go out of business?
Yes, Like you ive been trying for week to get information/miners. Yes we,i,you are missing out.
 But wouldnt consider it a nightmare. jesus.
That aside.

Has anyone had any recent contact, news to report?

I have sent over 20 emails, 40+ skype messages, fumbled through their website, had a fake baikal account try to scam me, been promised units on multiple occasions, given payment addresses and pursued order confirmation and validity only to be told they're unavailable if I even receive a response. I'm not being dramatic, I consider my dealings with them a nightmare.

[jwarren81]

Are you saying you paid them and they didn't send the units?  Did they refund?  This would actually be concerning; unless you never actually paid them, which would then make sense that you never got anything from them.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1897027.0;topicseen

It looks like they will be out of business soon, and quite honestly I'm looking forward to it what a nightmare it was trying for weeks to order with them, to no avail.

 Lets be honest here.
 Its a nightmare not able to place an order? seriously?
  a nightmare, to the point of them needing to go out of business?
Yes, Like you ive been trying for week to get information/miners. Yes we,i,you are missing out.
 But wouldnt consider it a nightmare. jesus.
That aside.

Has anyone had any recent contact, news to report?

I have sent over 20 emails, 40+ skype messages, fumbled through their website, had a fake baikal account try to scam me, been promised units on multiple occasions, given payment addresses and pursued order confirmation and validity only to be told they're unavailable if I even receive a response. I'm not being dramatic, I consider my dealings with them a nightmare.

[VoskCoin]

I never paid them, or the scammer, as I wanted at a minimum email verification from their known email baikal@baikalminer.com. I was waiting on that to send payment of a skype order request

[scyth33]

They actually responsed quite quickly.

Code:

Hi,
 
Thank you very much for your support on baikal.

Sorry to tell you that this batch of cube and quad-cube miners were sold out again, and we have no idea when the next batch will arrive now.
 
Please wait patiently and we will share you with the news about the new stock as soon as we can.
 
Best regards,
Baikal

[jwarren81]

Yep, that's exactly what I got about 30 seconds ago via skype.  They did also direct me to e-mail as the way to settle order now, instead of skype as I have done before.  So, we wait for the next batch.

They actually responsed quite quickly.

Code:

Hi,
 
Thank you very much for your support on baikal.

Sorry to tell you that this batch of cube and quad-cube miners were sold out again, and we have no idea when the next batch will arrive now.
 
Please wait patiently and we will share you with the news about the new stock as soon as we can.
 
Best regards,
Baikal

[usao]

Still waiting for skype reply to Friday question...
I didnt find out about the deadline untill after i sent wire transfer, but that was after deadline, so is my order still good or if not how do i get my money back?

[pikachuy]

Still waiting for skype reply to Friday question...
I didnt find out about the deadline untill after i sent wire transfer, but that was after deadline, so is my order still good or if not how do i get my money back?

Not sure how it works, but if they have 100 units, and all 100 are sold, and you sent payment at 101 units, that 1 unit isn't coming straight out of the air, most likely if they are already all sold out, hopefully they give you a refund. That's the thing about wire transfers, hard to reverse it unless they initiate it.

They did say this previously:

"Now, pre-order of Cube and quad-cube is OVER now. Quotations that unable to pay before 10:00pm April(GMT+8) is VALID, please do not continue the payment if you have't complete the order now yet. Thank you for your kind understanding."

[usao]

I got the payment address the evening before, but the gmt+8 made the deadline happen in the middle of the night before payment was sent in the AM. So, only a few hours to send payment and the banks were closed till the next day, so payment was late.

[wolf_miner]

Hi, so Baikal made pre order system for new batch? sure? Someone that has buy in pre order has received the miner batch two?

Cheers W_M

[pikachuy]

So, has anyone that did wire transfer got payment confirmation yet from Baikal?

I did my wire transfer online and provided receipts of the wire and confirmation of the wire that was made on 4-28-2016.

My bank tells me that the wire I did is same day international wire transfer and the transfer status is complete. Since the wire was done with SWIFT code, my bank tells me that they should receive the funds within 1-2 days.

I keep asking Baikal for confirmation/updates, but Baikal keeps saying "We will let you know once we get the payment" or "Please send us your bank slip for our confirmation".

I keep providing the confirmation to them, but it gets nowhere. I know they are receiving my attachments, because they are responding to that email saying, "We will let you know once we get the payment".

The frustration of the process continues...



Also, for people that have experience with international wire transfers, how long does it usually take for the recipient to receive funds into their bank with SWIFT code? I heard it's just usually 1 day?

[jackbox]

So, has anyone that did wire transfer got payment confirmation yet from Baikal?

I did my wire transfer online and provided receipts of the wire and confirmation of the wire that was made on 4-28-2016.

My bank tells me that the wire I did is same day international wire transfer and the transfer status is complete. Since the wire was done with SWIFT code, my bank tells me that they should receive the funds within 1-2 days.

I keep asking Baikal for confirmation/updates, but Baikal keeps saying "We will let you know once we get the payment" or "Please send us your bank slip for our confirmation".

I keep providing the confirmation to them, but it gets nowhere. I know they are receiving my attachments, because they are responding to that email saying, "We will let you know once we get the payment".

The frustration of the process continues...



Also, for people that have experience with international wire transfers, how long does it usually take for the recipient to receive funds into their bank with SWIFT code? I heard it's just usually 1 day?

It depends on whether the bank the wire is going to is a major bank or a smaller banks. SWIFT wires can go through a number of banks (each one taking some money) before it gets to the destination bank. If a larger bank and they have a corresponding account with the sending bank it will usually take one day (sometimes two) for the credit to appear in the recipient's account. Smaller banks (without an account with the sending bank) go through the larger banks to get paid. This can take an extra day or two. At max three days, usually one or two days. Also, remember there are time differences that can affect delivery speed.

[Searing]

So, has anyone that did wire transfer got payment confirmation yet from Baikal?

I did my wire transfer online and provided receipts of the wire and confirmation of the wire that was made on 4-28-2016.

My bank tells me that the wire I did is same day international wire transfer and the transfer status is complete. Since the wire was done with SWIFT code, my bank tells me that they should receive the funds within 1-2 days.

I keep asking Baikal for confirmation/updates, but Baikal keeps saying "We will let you know once we get the payment" or "Please send us your bank slip for our confirmation".

I keep providing the confirmation to them, but it gets nowhere. I know they are receiving my attachments, because they are responding to that email saying, "We will let you know once we get the payment".

The frustration of the process continues...



Also, for people that have experience with international wire transfers, how long does it usually take for the recipient to receive funds into their bank with SWIFT code? I heard it's just usually 1 day?

I had one lost for 30 days to knc in 2013. KNC said dollars only. The bank said it would send dollars, but they had a bot that auto converted to local currency if they could make
a couple bucks. Thus the transaction was stuck. Bank said it was sent in $$$ (not knowing about their own bot) KNC said they did not get it (due to their bot stopping it for
not being usd) . Anyway was a complete cluster. Use a commercial bank that is used to doing wire xfers is my advice. Stuff like this happens with a regular bank all the time I hear.
Just for the fact wire transfer 'supposedly' is rare on non commercial regular banks it seems. (or so I was told)

Anyway, something to ask your bank if they converted it to a local currency .and because of such you are a few bucks short in the conversion

Anyway....something you can ask I guess ..just in case

[jackbox]

I had one lost for 30 days to knc in 2013. KNC said dollars only. The bank said it would send dollars, but they had a bot that auto converted to local currency if they could make
a couple bucks. Thus the transaction was stuck. Bank said it was sent in $$$ (not knowing about their own bot) KNC said they did not get it (due to their bot stopping it for
not being usd) . Anyway was a complete cluster. Use a commercial bank that is used to doing wire xfers is my advice. Stuff like this happens with a regular bank all the time I hear.
Just for the fact wire transfer 'supposedly' is rare on non commercial regular banks it seems. (or so I was told)

Anyway, something to ask your bank if they converted it to a local currency .and because of such you are a few bucks short in the conversion

Anyway....something you can ask I guess ..just in case

That sucks. I get wires in Thailand denominated in US dollars and the Thai bank just converts it to Thai baht at that hour's rate, deducts a fee, and deposits the rest into my account. I did have an issue once with a Chinese company I was doing business with. They told me to send X amount of dollars (over $20,000) and I sent the exact amount. Of course, they received it minus the SWIFT fees (that is normal). They wanted me to send them another $17 to cover the fees. I told them my bank would charge me more than that amount to send the wire (would have cost me over double) so I was not going to do that. Told them you know wires haves receiving fees and if you wanted me to pay it you should have added it to the total you asked me to send. I was persistent. In the end, they gave up and shipped the goods. This was many years ago but doing business with companies in China is often a challenge.

[pikachuy]

So, has anyone that did wire transfer got payment confirmation yet from Baikal?

I did my wire transfer online and provided receipts of the wire and confirmation of the wire that was made on 4-28-2016.

My bank tells me that the wire I did is same day international wire transfer and the transfer status is complete. Since the wire was done with SWIFT code, my bank tells me that they should receive the funds within 1-2 days.

I keep asking Baikal for confirmation/updates, but Baikal keeps saying "We will let you know once we get the payment" or "Please send us your bank slip for our confirmation".

I keep providing the confirmation to them, but it gets nowhere. I know they are receiving my attachments, because they are responding to that email saying, "We will let you know once we get the payment".

The frustration of the process continues...



Also, for people that have experience with international wire transfers, how long does it usually take for the recipient to receive funds into their bank with SWIFT code? I heard it's just usually 1 day?

I had one lost for 30 days to knc in 2013. KNC said dollars only. The bank said it would send dollars, but they had a bot that auto converted to local currency if they could make
a couple bucks. Thus the transaction was stuck. Bank said it was sent in $$$ (not knowing about their own bot) KNC said they did not get it (due to their bot stopping it for
not being usd) . Anyway was a complete cluster. Use a commercial bank that is used to doing wire xfers is my advice. Stuff like this happens with a regular bank all the time I hear.
Just for the fact wire transfer 'supposedly' is rare on non commercial regular banks it seems. (or so I was told)

Anyway, something to ask your bank if they converted it to a local currency .and because of such you are a few bucks short in the conversion

Anyway....something you can ask I guess ..just in case

Thanks for the info, I double checked my online bank, and it says "Funds will be sent in U.S. dollars. If the recipient's account is not in U.S. dollars, the funds will be converted to local currency at an exchange rate applied by the recipient's bank."

Guess i'll keep following up.

[maleemk]

I've yet to see any evidence that they have done anything to screw anyone over.  They are out of stock and stated as much.  As far as I know, they have never taken money and not delivered.  When they had stock and received money, they have shipped reliably and quickly.  And they have been more open than they have to be to when asked about inventory and upcoming products.  The only issue I have really seen is with people claiming to be in negotiations with them, and then most people simply buying directly from Baikal instead.  Then the negotiator is upset that they weren't able to get anything.  Show me an instance where Baikal promised an allotment to someone, then failed to deliver on that.  I haven't see it.

Every time I saw a so called group buy posted here, I simply went to Baikal and made the purchase directly without any issue, when the inventory was available.  If a so called group buy is organized by a third party without any contractual agreements with the vendor, then the group buy really didn't exist in the first place and the vendor has no obligation to set anything aside for them.  Especially when they have enough orders to clear inventory without it.

Seems like a lot of smoke and no actual fire.

I've made three separate orders from baikal through their Skype account over the last six months and have had no issues with them.  When they had inventory to sell, they were prompt and shipped within 24 hours.  When they were out of stock, they stated as such.

They make a stellar product that is in extreme demand, and as expected are probably sold out again.  They probably had offers from plenty of people wanting their entire inventory, people with a lot deeper pockets than most of us.  The fact that they shipped to even a few in the community here is nice to see.  They didn't have to really.  I can understand people being frustrated when they sell out, but there really is nothing that can be done, so why spend energy on it?  They could continue to sell out their inventories without anyone here buying a single one, so why should they care?  In fact, they probably do care, but really, who has time to coddle a bunch of people when they have money to make?

Why would they care? Because one day they will not be the king of the block, competitors will rise. Just because they sell out does not mean they should not work on their customer service or business communication.

You are 100 percent right. I have seen 2 to 3 group buys and they are mess and too shady.

[bigassboy]

I just got an email reply from Baikal saying they received my fund transfer and will be sending my quad-cubes soon.

[pikachuy]

I just got a reply from Baikal saying they received my fund transfer and will be sending my quad-cubes soon.

When did you initiate the wire transfer?

[bigassboy]

I just got a reply from Baikal saying they received my fund transfer and will be sending my quad-cubes soon.

When did you initiate the wire transfer?

I made the transfer on 27th april late in the afternoon.

[SplinterZalinsk]

I just got an email reply from Baikal saying they received my fund transfer and will be sending my quad-cubes soon.

Nice. How many quad cubes and how much did you pay?

[kodokbuduk]

So, has anyone that did wire transfer got payment confirmation yet from Baikal?

I did my wire transfer online and provided receipts of the wire and confirmation of the wire that was made on 4-28-2016.

My bank tells me that the wire I did is same day international wire transfer and the transfer status is complete. Since the wire was done with SWIFT code, my bank tells me that they should receive the funds within 1-2 days.

I keep asking Baikal for confirmation/updates, but Baikal keeps saying "We will let you know once we get the payment" or "Please send us your bank slip for our confirmation".

I keep providing the confirmation to them, but it gets nowhere. I know they are receiving my attachments, because they are responding to that email saying, "We will let you know once we get the payment".

The frustration of the process continues...



Also, for people that have experience with international wire transfers, how long does it usually take for the recipient to receive funds into their bank with SWIFT code? I heard it's just usually 1 day?

no not yet, they keep asking the payer name. i sent using same day transfer and alredy sent payment wire slip but they said not receving it. If baikal doing funny thing, i will go to singapore and report to the police...

[cryptotore]

To the guys pretending to be in the crypto-game, but are still sending money in fiat, and complaining about how much time it takes:

Shame on you!

[pikachuy]

Well, after many communication attempts, finally got an email saying they confirm my bank wire and should be shipping out my quad cube next week. Guess this horror story has a happy ending after all.

[LachlanS]

To the guys pretending to be in the crypto-game, but are still sending money in fiat, and complaining about how much time it takes:

Shame on you!

I was quoted $3200~ USD or 3.09 bitcoins. At the time, $3200USD was closer to 2.6BTC.
I sent it in BTC because I didnt want to trust fucking around with wire transfers. I wanted a clear, quick and transperant blockchain trail showing I paid and when.
I paid a big premium for it though. Can understand why others might not have wanted to choke down that extra 0.5btc cost.

[kodokbuduk]

Well, after many communication attempts, finally got an email saying they confirm my bank wire and should be shipping out my quad cube next week. Guess this horror story has a happy ending after all.

when did you get confirm? just today?

[usao]

I was in the unlucky situation where the wire transfer happend on Saturday, a day too-late, after the deadline.
Fortunately for me, I was able to get the bank to cancel the transfer as it had not yet gone through.

I only lost the $60 processing fee. The issue I had was that Baikal didn't tell me about the deadline until after I started the transfer, and at that time it was already too late.
So, im bummed, but will have to wait and try again later.

[kodokbuduk]

Well, after many communication attempts, finally got an email saying they confirm my bank wire and should be shipping out my quad cube next week. Guess this horror story has a happy ending after all.

i think they use intermediary bank.. take longer to transfer and reach their bank.

[pikachuy]

Well, after many communication attempts, finally got an email saying they confirm my bank wire and should be shipping out my quad cube next week. Guess this horror story has a happy ending after all.

when did you get confirm? just today?

It took 4 days from my bank to them confirming. Or maybe sooner and they just got time to check it finally, also, got confirmation yesterday.

[Marvell1]

Well, after many communication attempts, finally got an email saying they confirm my bank wire and should be shipping out my quad cube next week. Guess this horror story has a happy ending after all.

when did you get confirm? just today?

It took 4 days from my bank to them confirming. Or maybe sooner and they just got time to check it finally, also, got confirmation yesterday.

they said they recived my funds for two cubes but now they need id before the can ship wth?

[pikachuy]

Well, after many communication attempts, finally got an email saying they confirm my bank wire and should be shipping out my quad cube next week. Guess this horror story has a happy ending after all.

when did you get confirm? just today?

It took 4 days from my bank to them confirming. Or maybe sooner and they just got time to check it finally, also, got confirmation yesterday.

they said they recived my funds for two cubes but now they need id before the can ship wth?

Same, they ask for a copy of my passport. Like why would they need a copy of my passport when they have received my funds already? It was pretty fishy. So I just gave them my driver's license with all personal information crossed out except my name and address.

I have one theory in the reasoning behind this, maybe to prevent people from multiple orders or duplicate orders under the same person.

[jackbox]

Well, after many communication attempts, finally got an email saying they confirm my bank wire and should be shipping out my quad cube next week. Guess this horror story has a happy ending after all.

when did you get confirm? just today?

It took 4 days from my bank to them confirming. Or maybe sooner and they just got time to check it finally, also, got confirmation yesterday.

they said they recived my funds for two cubes but now they need id before the can ship wth?

Same, they ask for a copy of my passport. Like why would they need a copy of my passport when they have received my funds already? It was pretty fishy. So I just gave them my driver's license with all personal information crossed out except my name and address.

I have one theory in the reasoning behind this, maybe to prevent people from multiple orders or duplicate orders under the same person.

If you are in the U.S. they have to verify you are who you say you are. Also DHL will call often call requesting social security number for large dollar foreign deliveries before they can get a customs release as it is reported to the Federal Government if over a certain value.

[couture]

I have always had replies from baikal via email and Skype fairly promptly

I emailed them within about 5 minutes of their batch 2.0 release and had an email back within about half an hour with payment details
I then forwarded btc to the address and followed up with an email confirming my delivery address as well as a print screen showing 2+ blockchain confirmations

They dispatched yesterday and are due to arrive Tuesday

Boom

I don't know why I don't know how but I have had no issues with baikal nor communication with them at all

Just my two satoshis

[LachlanS]

Can confirm that my quad miner has shipped with an estimated delivery date of Tuesday next week.

I had moderate difficulty dealing with them. Was constantly on them on skype and email, always prodding. Luckily for me, I live in the same timezone as Shenzen which I think helped. Paid with BTC not bank wire as well.

[molitar]

How much they actually charge you for the cube?

[Marvell1]

my cubes stoll havent shipped and I paid last week sent id and everthing sthey stopped answering via
slype only by email now all they said was iwill be notified when shipped wtf

[bigassboy]

I just received the tracking # for the quad-cubes and delivery will be on Monday.

[LachlanS]

my cubes stoll havent shipped and I paid last week sent id and everthing sthey stopped answering via
slype only by email now all they said was iwill be notified when shipped wtf

Relax, I doubt you're getting scammed while other people are starting to get their tracking numbers.
Yes, its not the best company and they are uncommunicative. Try to relax and you'll get it soon I'm sure.

[VoskCoin]

Yeah what price did people end up paying for their cubes & quads?

[Shiroslullaby]

Probably a very small company and they did not expect to get as many orders as they have.
I wouldn't be surprised if they are behind on orders, or unable to get the parts as quickly as they need.

For the people that got them, how is it working out for you?
What coin are you mining? What is your expected ROI?

[Gunna01]

Probably a very small company and they did not expect to get as many orders as they have.
I wouldn't be surprised if they are behind on orders, or unable to get the parts as quickly as they need.

For the people that got them, how is it working out for you?
What coin are you mining? What is your expected ROI?

I got 2 cubes in the 1st batch. Based on my wallet I have made 3 dash but i had issues and had to reboot miners a few times. Took a week after I received my 1st to get my 2nd cube so i have been mining properly full time about 2.5 weeks. Happy with my return so far. Averaging about 1 coin a week, mining on my own P2Pool node to ensure no fees for myself.

It will take an additional 23 weeks before I get all my dash back at this rate but I do not care as they use such little power and I mined my dash back in 2015 when it was easier

One of my baikals is a little buggy. It has locked up twice in 3 weeks. If it happens again I will be reflashing the OS onto both SD cards to resolve the issue. Will run these until they make nothnig I guess. I just hope I get ROI before iBelinks products come out.

[Marvell1]

Probably a very small company and they did not expect to get as many orders as they have.
I wouldn't be surprised if they are behind on orders, or unable to get the parts as quickly as they need.

For the people that got them, how is it working out for you?
What coin are you mining? What is your expected ROI?

I got 2 cubes in the 1st batch. Based on my wallet I have made 3 dash but i had issues and had to reboot miners a few times. Took a week after I received my 1st to get my 2nd cube so i have been mining properly full time about 2.5 weeks. Happy with my return so far. Averaging about 1 coin a week, mining on my own P2Pool node to ensure no fees for myself.

It will take an additional 23 weeks before I get all my dash back at this rate but I do not care as they use such little power and I mined my dash back in 2015 when it was easier

One of my baikals is a little buggy. It has locked up twice in 3 weeks. If it happens again I will be reflashing the OS onto both SD cards to resolve the issue. Will run these until they make nothnig I guess. I just hope I get ROI before iBelinks products come out.

i thought it was more profitable to mine via multipools that accept diffrent algos

[Gunna01]

Probably a very small company and they did not expect to get as many orders as they have.
I wouldn't be surprised if they are behind on orders, or unable to get the parts as quickly as they need.

For the people that got them, how is it working out for you?
What coin are you mining? What is your expected ROI?

I got 2 cubes in the 1st batch. Based on my wallet I have made 3 dash but i had issues and had to reboot miners a few times. Took a week after I received my 1st to get my 2nd cube so i have been mining properly full time about 2.5 weeks. Happy with my return so far. Averaging about 1 coin a week, mining on my own P2Pool node to ensure no fees for myself.

It will take an additional 23 weeks before I get all my dash back at this rate but I do not care as they use such little power and I mined my dash back in 2015 when it was easier

One of my baikals is a little buggy. It has locked up twice in 3 weeks. If it happens again I will be reflashing the OS onto both SD cards to resolve the issue. Will run these until they make nothnig I guess. I just hope I get ROI before iBelinks products come out.

i thought it was more profitable to mine via multipools that accept diffrent algos

Everytime I check a multipool that handles X11 they are mining dash so I might as well mine dash on my own node.

I just wish the baikal could switch it's algo if pointed to a multipool.

[shaninium]

Probably a very small company and they did not expect to get as many orders as they have.
I wouldn't be surprised if they are behind on orders, or unable to get the parts as quickly as they need.

For the people that got them, how is it working out for you?
What coin are you mining? What is your expected ROI?

I got 2 cubes in the 1st batch. Based on my wallet I have made 3 dash but i had issues and had to reboot miners a few times. Took a week after I received my 1st to get my 2nd cube so i have been mining properly full time about 2.5 weeks. Happy with my return so far. Averaging about 1 coin a week, mining on my own P2Pool node to ensure no fees for myself.

It will take an additional 23 weeks before I get all my dash back at this rate but I do not care as they use such little power and I mined my dash back in 2015 when it was easier

One of my baikals is a little buggy. It has locked up twice in 3 weeks. If it happens again I will be reflashing the OS onto both SD cards to resolve the issue. Will run these until they make nothnig I guess. I just hope I get ROI before iBelinks products come out.

Your best bet is to hold your dash u mined, when dash evolution comes out later this year and ibelink s difficulty increase hopefully the price of dash will climb, and youd profit from that , reducing your ROI, i assume u paid 1100$ for each of your cubes?

[bigassboy]

Probably a very small company and they did not expect to get as many orders as they have.
I wouldn't be surprised if they are behind on orders, or unable to get the parts as quickly as they need.

For the people that got them, how is it working out for you?
What coin are you mining? What is your expected ROI?

I got 2 cubes in the 1st batch. Based on my wallet I have made 3 dash but i had issues and had to reboot miners a few times. Took a week after I received my 1st to get my 2nd cube so i have been mining properly full time about 2.5 weeks. Happy with my return so far. Averaging about 1 coin a week, mining on my own P2Pool node to ensure no fees for myself.

It will take an additional 23 weeks before I get all my dash back at this rate but I do not care as they use such little power and I mined my dash back in 2015 when it was easier

One of my baikals is a little buggy. It has locked up twice in 3 weeks. If it happens again I will be reflashing the OS onto both SD cards to resolve the issue. Will run these until they make nothnig I guess. I just hope I get ROI before iBelinks products come out.

i thought it was more profitable to mine via multipools that accept diffrent algos

When I first got my cube, I tested 7 days on each pool, I got .007 dash daily on the multiple pool and .082 on coinme. I guess maybe the exchange fees has something to do with it, I enabled auto exchange to "dash".

[Gunna01]

Probably a very small company and they did not expect to get as many orders as they have.
I wouldn't be surprised if they are behind on orders, or unable to get the parts as quickly as they need.

For the people that got them, how is it working out for you?
What coin are you mining? What is your expected ROI?

I got 2 cubes in the 1st batch. Based on my wallet I have made 3 dash but i had issues and had to reboot miners a few times. Took a week after I received my 1st to get my 2nd cube so i have been mining properly full time about 2.5 weeks. Happy with my return so far. Averaging about 1 coin a week, mining on my own P2Pool node to ensure no fees for myself.

It will take an additional 23 weeks before I get all my dash back at this rate but I do not care as they use such little power and I mined my dash back in 2015 when it was easier

One of my baikals is a little buggy. It has locked up twice in 3 weeks. If it happens again I will be reflashing the OS onto both SD cards to resolve the issue. Will run these until they make nothnig I guess. I just hope I get ROI before iBelinks products come out.

Your best bet is to hold your dash u mined, when dash evolution comes out later this year and ibelink s difficulty increase hopefully the price of dash will climb, and youd profit from that , reducing your ROI, i assume u paid 1100$ for each of your cubes?

No, I paid around $870 I think it worked out. I bought from Baikal direct and they charged around the $75 for shipping.

Cost me at the time 28.5 dash for both but at the time dash had dropped to under $70, cant remember the exact exchange but Baikal charged me .74BTC each nad I think BTC was around $1200 at that time in early\mid April

[shaninium]

Probably a very small company and they did not expect to get as many orders as they have.
I wouldn't be surprised if they are behind on orders, or unable to get the parts as quickly as they need.

For the people that got them, how is it working out for you?
What coin are you mining? What is your expected ROI?

I got 2 cubes in the 1st batch. Based on my wallet I have made 3 dash but i had issues and had to reboot miners a few times. Took a week after I received my 1st to get my 2nd cube so i have been mining properly full time about 2.5 weeks. Happy with my return so far. Averaging about 1 coin a week, mining on my own P2Pool node to ensure no fees for myself.

It will take an additional 23 weeks before I get all my dash back at this rate but I do not care as they use such little power and I mined my dash back in 2015 when it was easier

One of my baikals is a little buggy. It has locked up twice in 3 weeks. If it happens again I will be reflashing the OS onto both SD cards to resolve the issue. Will run these until they make nothnig I guess. I just hope I get ROI before iBelinks products come out.

Your best bet is to hold your dash u mined, when dash evolution comes out later this year and ibelink s difficulty increase hopefully the price of dash will climb, and youd profit from that , reducing your ROI, i assume u paid 1100$ for each of your cubes?

No, I paid around $870 I think it worked out. I bought from Baikal direct and they charged around the $75 for shipping.

Cost me at the time 28.5 dash for both but at the time dash had dropped to under $70, cant remember the exact exchange but Baikal charged me .74BTC each nad I think BTC was around $1200 at that time in early\mid April

could u tell me how many chips are in the baikal cube, it should be in the net interface

[TracerX]

could u tell me how many chips are in the baikal cube, it should be in the net interface

Nine chips.

[Marvell1]

finally got the tracking on my three cubes they are scheduled for a wed delivery cant wait to hook em up

[TunerDude007]

I've yet to see any evidence that they have done anything to screw anyone over.  They are out of stock and stated as much.  As far as I know, they have never taken money and not delivered.  When they had stock and received money, they have shipped reliably and quickly.  And they have been more open than they have to be to when asked about inventory and upcoming products.  The only issue I have really seen is with people claiming to be in negotiations with them, and then most people simply buying directly from Baikal instead.  Then the negotiator is upset that they weren't able to get anything.  Show me an instance where Baikal promised an allotment to someone, then failed to deliver on that.  I haven't see it.

Every time I saw a so called group buy posted here, I simply went to Baikal and made the purchase directly without any issue, when the inventory was available.  If a so called group buy is organized by a third party without any contractual agreements with the vendor, then the group buy really didn't exist in the first place and the vendor has no obligation to set anything aside for them.  Especially when they have enough orders to clear inventory without it.

Seems like a lot of smoke and no actual fire.

I've made three separate orders from baikal through their Skype account over the last six months and have had no issues with them.  When they had inventory to sell, they were prompt and shipped within 24 hours.  When they were out of stock, they stated as such.

They make a stellar product that is in extreme demand, and as expected are probably sold out again.  They probably had offers from plenty of people wanting their entire inventory, people with a lot deeper pockets than most of us.  The fact that they shipped to even a few in the community here is nice to see.  They didn't have to really.  I can understand people being frustrated when they sell out, but there really is nothing that can be done, so why spend energy on it?  They could continue to sell out their inventories without anyone here buying a single one, so why should they care?  In fact, they probably do care, but really, who has time to coddle a bunch of people when they have money to make?

Why would they care? Because one day they will not be the king of the block, competitors will rise. Just because they sell out does not mean they should not work on their customer service or business communication.

I agree with the top comment...I early on said Baikal would have no interest in group buys anymore with new recent jump in altcoin prices.. Bittawns first group buys worked because they were sitting on stock they needed to move, props to Bitawnm for that...ok maybe their communication is shit but guess what? I've managed to get a mini, a cube and a quad cube. And it wasn't by constantly emailing and skyping them every single day. All I did was monitor their site 3-4 times a day and when stock came up I jumped on it. It's pretty clear this is how they want to sell their products.

[TunerDude007]

Now if we could reverse engineer these fpga's would be nice...It's getting ones hands on the chips...anyone up to taking one of their heatsinks off and uploading a picture of the chips?

[drsub]

Now if we could reverse engineer these fpga's would be nice...It's getting ones hands on the chips...anyone up to taking one of their heatsinks off and uploading a picture of the chips?

Its a custom chip, i tried that already.

[GMPoison]

finally got the tracking on my three cubes they are scheduled for a wed delivery cant wait to hook em up

Have you hooked them up?

Can't wait until they're in stock again and I can get my hands on some, the ROI is amazing on them.

[kalang]

im waiting my baikal on deleveri,i want to modificated kernel i hope more 6 algo can be mined 

[Marvell1]

finally got the tracking on my three cubes they are scheduled for a wed delivery cant wait to hook em up

Have you hooked them up?

Can't wait until they're in stock again and I can get my hands on some, the ROI is amazing on them.

yeah I got them connected they are great getting good returns on miningooolhub
use very low power and run cool eveb in my hot house
both mine at 310 to 315 on any algo

[VoskCoin]

finally got the tracking on my three cubes they are scheduled for a wed delivery cant wait to hook em up

Have you hooked them up?

Can't wait until they're in stock again and I can get my hands on some, the ROI is amazing on them.

yeah I got them connected they are great getting good returns on miningooolhub
use very low power and run cool eveb in my hot house
both mine at 310 to 315 on any algo

do you mind specifying what good returns are? thanks

[GMPoison]

finally got the tracking on my three cubes they are scheduled for a wed delivery cant wait to hook em up

Have you hooked them up?

Can't wait until they're in stock again and I can get my hands on some, the ROI is amazing on them.

yeah I got them connected they are great getting good returns on miningooolhub
use very low power and run cool eveb in my hot house
both mine at 310 to 315 on any algo

do you mind specifying what good returns are? thanks

Plug the numbers into a mining calculator. The amount of money you can make if you buy these things is ridiculous.

[pikachuy]

finally got the tracking on my three cubes they are scheduled for a wed delivery cant wait to hook em up

Have you hooked them up?

Can't wait until they're in stock again and I can get my hands on some, the ROI is amazing on them.

yeah I got them connected they are great getting good returns on miningooolhub
use very low power and run cool eveb in my hot house
both mine at 310 to 315 on any algo

Since you have more then 1, can you test it side by side against https://www.zpool.ca/ since they support all 6 algos? miningpoolhub only supports 5 algos. I am using zpool.ca with this as the password:

c=BTC,quark=0.5,qubit=0.5,x11=0.5,x13=0.5,x14=0.5,x15=0.5

It will auto-profit the best algo with that password, and with zpool, I actually see it mine x14 sometimes but miningpoolhub don't support x14.

So I am curious will miningpoolhub still be better when it don't support x14.

[leowonderful]

finally got the tracking on my three cubes they are scheduled for a wed delivery cant wait to hook em up

Have you hooked them up?

Can't wait until they're in stock again and I can get my hands on some, the ROI is amazing on them.

yeah I got them connected they are great getting good returns on miningooolhub
use very low power and run cool eveb in my hot house
both mine at 310 to 315 on any algo

do you mind specifying what good returns are? thanks

Plug the numbers into a mining calculator. The amount of money you can make if you buy these things is ridiculous.

If. There's people sitting at their computers 24/7 waiting to buy these and they typically sell out in about five minutes in my experience. Otherwise you can purchase insanely gouged miners from forum members.

[GMPoison]

finally got the tracking on my three cubes they are scheduled for a wed delivery cant wait to hook em up

Have you hooked them up?

Can't wait until they're in stock again and I can get my hands on some, the ROI is amazing on them.

yeah I got them connected they are great getting good returns on miningooolhub
use very low power and run cool eveb in my hot house
both mine at 310 to 315 on any algo

do you mind specifying what good returns are? thanks

Plug the numbers into a mining calculator. The amount of money you can make if you buy these things is ridiculous.

If. There's people sitting at their computers 24/7 waiting to buy these and they typically sell out in about five minutes in my experience. Otherwise you can purchase insanely gouged miners from forum members.

I wasn't paying too close attention, but apparently with this last batch they were in stock until recently, for a couple of weeks. I don't know why they didn't sell out instantly because you can make so much money with them, but I will be watching closely for the next batch as I may soon have the funds to purchase a couple of the quad cubes.

[usao]

Ive been sending requests through skype for several weeks, no replys yet as to when more will be available.
If they get more out before the end of july I would like to get one, but if not  then the L3 will be in my future...

[WIX]

Baikal mini not profitable again,after investor used high hashrate

[leowonderful]

finally got the tracking on my three cubes they are scheduled for a wed delivery cant wait to hook em up

Have you hooked them up?

Can't wait until they're in stock again and I can get my hands on some, the ROI is amazing on them.

yeah I got them connected they are great getting good returns on miningooolhub
use very low power and run cool eveb in my hot house
both mine at 310 to 315 on any algo

do you mind specifying what good returns are? thanks

Plug the numbers into a mining calculator. The amount of money you can make if you buy these things is ridiculous.

If. There's people sitting at their computers 24/7 waiting to buy these and they typically sell out in about five minutes in my experience. Otherwise you can purchase insanely gouged miners from forum members.

I wasn't paying too close attention, but apparently with this last batch they were in stock until recently, for a couple of weeks. I don't know why they didn't sell out instantly because you can make so much money with them, but I will be watching closely for the next batch as I may soon have the funds to purchase a couple of the quad cubes.

They weren't. They still had the buy button up but it didn't work; I tried about six minutes after the batch released and they were sold out. I am also looking at the quads, unfortunately these days it's either Bitmain or sitting at your desk waiting to snipe profitable miners :/

[VoskCoin]

finally got the tracking on my three cubes they are scheduled for a wed delivery cant wait to hook em up

Have you hooked them up?

Can't wait until they're in stock again and I can get my hands on some, the ROI is amazing on them.

yeah I got them connected they are great getting good returns on miningooolhub
use very low power and run cool eveb in my hot house
both mine at 310 to 315 on any algo

do you mind specifying what good returns are? thanks

Plug the numbers into a mining calculator. The amount of money you can make if you buy these things is ridiculous.

I have two, they make 8-9 dollars a day, I wouldn't call that ridiculous lol

If anyone's curious I go over the cubes in this video and showcase my early results, I've been mining on prohashing because this is a simple way for me to amass doge & dash at the same time
https://youtu.be/47a4CDeFjqQ

[Gunna01]

finally got the tracking on my three cubes they are scheduled for a wed delivery cant wait to hook em up

Have you hooked them up?

Can't wait until they're in stock again and I can get my hands on some, the ROI is amazing on them.

yeah I got them connected they are great getting good returns on miningooolhub
use very low power and run cool eveb in my hot house
both mine at 310 to 315 on any algo

do you mind specifying what good returns are? thanks

Plug the numbers into a mining calculator. The amount of money you can make if you buy these things is ridiculous.

I have two, they make 8-9 dollars a day, I wouldn't call that ridiculous lol

If anyone's curious I go over the cubes in this video and showcase my early results, I've been mining on prohashing because this is a simple way for me to amass doge & dash at the same time
https://youtu.be/47a4CDeFjqQ

What you mining? I'm mining on Nicehash utilising the multi algo capabilities and get between $13 and $17 a day

[VoskCoin]

finally got the tracking on my three cubes they are scheduled for a wed delivery cant wait to hook em up

Have you hooked them up?

Can't wait until they're in stock again and I can get my hands on some, the ROI is amazing on them.

yeah I got them connected they are great getting good returns on miningooolhub
use very low power and run cool eveb in my hot house
both mine at 310 to 315 on any algo

do you mind specifying what good returns are? thanks

Plug the numbers into a mining calculator. The amount of money you can make if you buy these things is ridiculous.

I have two, they make 8-9 dollars a day, I wouldn't call that ridiculous lol

If anyone's curious I go over the cubes in this video and showcase my early results, I've been mining on prohashing because this is a simple way for me to amass doge & dash at the same time
https://youtu.be/47a4CDeFjqQ

What you mining? I'm mining on Nicehash utilising the multi algo capabilities and get between $13 and $17 a day

per cube? you just put your mining power towards prohashing & get paid out in the coin of your choosing (which currently im 50% dash 25 doge 25 btc)

[Gunna01]

finally got the tracking on my three cubes they are scheduled for a wed delivery cant wait to hook em up

Have you hooked them up?

Can't wait until they're in stock again and I can get my hands on some, the ROI is amazing on them.

yeah I got them connected they are great getting good returns on miningooolhub
use very low power and run cool eveb in my hot house
both mine at 310 to 315 on any algo

do you mind specifying what good returns are? thanks

Plug the numbers into a mining calculator. The amount of money you can make if you buy these things is ridiculous.

I have two, they make 8-9 dollars a day, I wouldn't call that ridiculous lol

If anyone's curious I go over the cubes in this video and showcase my early results, I've been mining on prohashing because this is a simple way for me to amass doge & dash at the same time
https://youtu.be/47a4CDeFjqQ

What you mining? I'm mining on Nicehash utilising the multi algo capabilities and get between $13 and $17 a day

per cube? you just put your mining power towards prohashing & get paid out in the coin of your choosing (which currently im 50% dash 25 doge 25 btc)

No that's combined for 2 cubes which i'm assuming you also have 2 based on your previous comments

[VoskCoin]

finally got the tracking on my three cubes they are scheduled for a wed delivery cant wait to hook em up

Have you hooked them up?

Can't wait until they're in stock again and I can get my hands on some, the ROI is amazing on them.

yeah I got them connected they are great getting good returns on miningooolhub
use very low power and run cool eveb in my hot house
both mine at 310 to 315 on any algo

do you mind specifying what good returns are? thanks

Plug the numbers into a mining calculator. The amount of money you can make if you buy these things is ridiculous.

I have two, they make 8-9 dollars a day, I wouldn't call that ridiculous lol

If anyone's curious I go over the cubes in this video and showcase my early results, I've been mining on prohashing because this is a simple way for me to amass doge & dash at the same time
https://youtu.be/47a4CDeFjqQ

What you mining? I'm mining on Nicehash utilising the multi algo capabilities and get between $13 and $17 a day

per cube? you just put your mining power towards prohashing & get paid out in the coin of your choosing (which currently im 50% dash 25 doge 25 btc)

No that's combined for 2 cubes which i'm assuming you also have 2 based on your previous comments

What's the payout in ? Btc or dash?

Try prohashing it's not bad and I love the flexibility

[Marvell1]

finally got the tracking on my three cubes they are scheduled for a wed delivery cant wait to hook em up

Have you hooked them up?

Can't wait until they're in stock again and I can get my hands on some, the ROI is amazing on them.

yeah I got them connected they are great getting good returns on miningooolhub
use very low power and run cool eveb in my hot house
both mine at 310 to 315 on any algo

do you mind specifying what good returns are? thanks

Plug the numbers into a mining calculator. The amount of money you can make if you buy these things is ridiculous.

I have two, they make 8-9 dollars a day, I wouldn't call that ridiculous lol

If anyone's curious I go over the cubes in this video and showcase my early results, I've been mining on prohashing because this is a simple way for me to amass doge & dash at the same time
https://youtu.be/47a4CDeFjqQ

What you mining? I'm mining on Nicehash utilising the multi algo capabilities and get between $13 and $17 a day

per cube? you just put your mining power towards prohashing & get paid out in the coin of your choosing (which currently im 50% dash 25 doge 25 btc)

yeah its for both cubes, i sold one kept two
$8 or so on nicehash one one cube $7 -10 on mining hub on the other
whats so good about pro hashing

nicehash pays in btc , miningpoolhub allows for payouts of your choice, so im taking dash

[GMPoison]

finally got the tracking on my three cubes they are scheduled for a wed delivery cant wait to hook em up

Have you hooked them up?

Can't wait until they're in stock again and I can get my hands on some, the ROI is amazing on them.

yeah I got them connected they are great getting good returns on miningooolhub
use very low power and run cool eveb in my hot house
both mine at 310 to 315 on any algo

do you mind specifying what good returns are? thanks

Plug the numbers into a mining calculator. The amount of money you can make if you buy these things is ridiculous.

I have two, they make 8-9 dollars a day, I wouldn't call that ridiculous lol

If anyone's curious I go over the cubes in this video and showcase my early results, I've been mining on prohashing because this is a simple way for me to amass doge & dash at the same time
https://youtu.be/47a4CDeFjqQ

Well that's just one miner, but the ROI is still good at ~100 days. If you were to invest $10,000 in these you'd net $2500 a month, which is ridiculous for that little amount of money and time invested.

[allnewbie]

The ROI is Crazzzzzzzzzy now!

[TunerDude007]

Baikal mini not profitable again,after investor used high hashrate

Not true....I still have a mini making 4usd every single day...been hashing away for almost a year now.

[Marvell1]

Baikal mini not profitable again,after investor used high hashrate

Not true....I still have a mini making 4usd every single day...been hashing away for almost a year now.

Yeah ROI will only go down on these the key is the use barely NO power , i could run 100 of these an pay only 1k a month in power thats insane

I was going to sell another one but I love the units so much Im keeping them and buying a couple of quads when the have stock next

[chrysophylax]

could u tell me how many chips are in the baikal cube, it should be in the net interface

Nine chips.

do you know which chips they are? ...

im curious as to what fpga / asic chips they use ...

any one pulled a miner apart to see? ...

only reason im asking is because of the cooling system - and the heat watt dissipation ... knowing the make and model of the chips can give us all the specs we need ... working on a better cooling system - and require all this info we cant seem to find anywhere ... not even in the reviews ...

#crysx

[alucard20724]

could u tell me how many chips are in the baikal cube, it should be in the net interface

Nine chips.

do you know which chips they are? ...

im curious as to what fpga / asic chips they use ...

any one pulled a miner apart to see? ...

only reason im asking is because of the cooling system - and the heat watt dissipation ... knowing the make and model of the chips can give us all the specs we need ... working on a better cooling system - and require all this info we cant seem to find anywhere ... not even in the reviews ...

#crysx

If they are asics, then you won't find a make and model.  they are custom made.  But if they are by chance FPGA then there will be something out there.  

We don't know anything about them and no one has dissected one yet.

My first theory is that they are fpga.   My second theory is that they are asics that some hardware student designed in grad school in china and was able to get them on a tape out of a research wafer.   When i was in grad school for hardware/circuit design, we were allowed to piggy back on unused wafer space for IBM and TSMC.  It was something that was free for universities. for research only.

[LachlanS]

Could anyone please direct me to a guide for allowing remote access to my baikal quad over the internet? I'm going away for 3 months in June for work and there is no way my girlfriend is going to be able to do anything for troubleshooting but hard power cycle it

Also, when I want to manually change pools, I have to change the pool priority on the http setup page, and then execute a hard power restart for it to change pools. Is this for anyone else?

[bigassboy]

Could anyone please direct me to a guide for allowing remote access to my baikal quad over the internet? I'm going away for 3 months in June for work and there is no way my girlfriend is going to be able to do anything for troubleshooting but hard power cycle it

Also, when I want to manually change pools, I have to change the pool priority on the http setup page, and then execute a hard power restart for it to change pools. Is this for anyone else?

You can download Teamviewer and remotely access it, that's what i'm doing right now too.

I don't have to do a hard restart to change pools.

[italianMiner72]

Could anyone please direct me to a guide for allowing remote access to my baikal quad over the internet? I'm going away for 3 months in June for work and there is no way my girlfriend is going to be able to do anything for troubleshooting but hard power cycle it

Also, when I want to manually change pools, I have to change the pool priority on the http setup page, and then execute a hard power restart for it to change pools. Is this for anyone else?

You can download Teamviewer and remotely access it, that's what i'm doing right now too.

I don't have to do a hard restart to change pools.

any info to the next batch of mini or cube???
i just checked the site...
but still out of stock....

[Tai_Pan]

Is baikal's facebook profile baikal lee gone or I am unable to see it anymore?

[VoskCoin]

Could anyone please direct me to a guide for allowing remote access to my baikal quad over the internet? I'm going away for 3 months in June for work and there is no way my girlfriend is going to be able to do anything for troubleshooting but hard power cycle it

Also, when I want to manually change pools, I have to change the pool priority on the http setup page, and then execute a hard power restart for it to change pools. Is this for anyone else?

You can download Teamviewer and remotely access it, that's what i'm doing right now too.

I don't have to do a hard restart to change pools.

Is that the best setup for a mining farm? How can I setup email / text notifications if one or multiple go offline?

[bigassboy]

Could anyone please direct me to a guide for allowing remote access to my baikal quad over the internet? I'm going away for 3 months in June for work and there is no way my girlfriend is going to be able to do anything for troubleshooting but hard power cycle it

Also, when I want to manually change pools, I have to change the pool priority on the http setup page, and then execute a hard power restart for it to change pools. Is this for anyone else?

You can download Teamviewer and remotely access it, that's what i'm doing right now too.

I don't have to do a hard restart to change pools.

Is that the best setup for a mining farm? How can I setup email / text notifications if one or multiple go offline?

tick on the "monitor" when you're accessing your workers management tab from your pools like minigpoolhub, coinmine and etc..

[usao]

Could anyone please direct me to a guide for allowing remote access to my baikal quad over the internet? I'm going away for 3 months in June for work and there is no way my girlfriend is going to be able to do anything for troubleshooting but hard power cycle it

Also, when I want to manually change pools, I have to change the pool priority on the http setup page, and then execute a hard power restart for it to change pools. Is this for anyone else?

You can download Teamviewer and remotely access it, that's what i'm doing right now too.

I don't have to do a hard restart to change pools.

Is that the best setup for a mining farm? How can I setup email / text notifications if one or multiple go offline?

I setup a PI with VPN access to my netowrk. Then I can login there and do anything I want locally on my network.

[steamon]

Only buy asics that you can recieve at your doorstep straight off are worth it else cancel it. I have been in the asic boat twice and both ended badly. 1 x cloud and 1 x machine bfl labs you know it. X3 got canceled.

Also those companys mine themselves to or even use them temporary for them selfs before selling them to you. I have seen this happen way to much times. If you want to buy asic buy that ships straight away.

Last tip: If you can recieve them invest bigger so buy like 4-6+ machines and resell just before end will make you the most money.

[usao]

So far, the trick seems to find the miners in the first place.
Been trying for months, but no luck yet. Almost had one bought about a month ago, but missed the payment deadline by 1 day.
Had to eat the wire transfer fee ($60).

[TracerX]

Could anyone please direct me to a guide for allowing remote access to my baikal quad over the internet? I'm going away for 3 months in June for work and there is no way my girlfriend is going to be able to do anything for troubleshooting but hard power cycle it

Also, when I want to manually change pools, I have to change the pool priority on the http setup page, and then execute a hard power restart for it to change pools. Is this for anyone else?

You can download Teamviewer and remotely access it, that's what i'm doing right now too.

I don't have to do a hard restart to change pools.

Is that the best setup for a mining farm? How can I setup email / text notifications if one or multiple go offline?

I setup a PI with VPN access to my netowrk. Then I can login there and do anything I want locally on my network.

I do the same, and have remote switchable power switches to boot.  It's pretty simple to utilize a VPN, most modern consumer ISP routers include that functionality out of the box.

TrX

[baskanx]

Has the Baikal four-cubic shipments started?

[drsub]

Yea...most of people who ordered already received.

[Tai_Pan]

If I don't get the chance to buy one in the next batch I swear to God I will go to China and hit them in their heads with their Quads......

[GMPoison]

If I don't get the chance to buy one in the next batch I swear to God I will go to China and hit them in their heads with their Quads......

LOL. You could always buy them at a 200% markup on aliexpress

Whats funny is that even when buying them at twice their retail value, they pull in about the same ROI as Bitmain Antminers, haha

[Tai_Pan]

If I don't get the chance to buy one in the next batch I swear to God I will go to China and hit them in their heads with their Quads......

LOL. You could always buy them at a 200% markup on aliexpress

Whats funny is that even when buying them at twice their retail value, they pull in about the same ROI as Bitmain Antminers, haha

For that 100% more on aliexpress I rather buy a plane ticket to China and do the hitting plan.Or maybe you are right, I should buy 1-2 Antminers and then go to China and hit the guys from baikal with the Antminers in the head because they are much more heavy than Quads.Good plan....
At least more fun for me.

[Tai_Pan]

If I don't get the chance to buy one in the next batch I swear to God I will go to China and hit them in their heads with their Quads......

I'm going with you, if I don't get mine from next batch
ONLY ONE, I NEED ONLY ONE, not TEN, but ONE.
Give us chance to buy, don't forget about those who hasn't got spare thousands in their bank accounts.

You're welcome to join

[TracerX]

could u tell me how many chips are in the baikal cube, it should be in the net interface

Nine chips.

do you know which chips they are? ...

im curious as to what fpga / asic chips they use ...

any one pulled a miner apart to see? ...

only reason im asking is because of the cooling system - and the heat watt dissipation ... knowing the make and model of the chips can give us all the specs we need ... working on a better cooling system - and require all this info we cant seem to find anywhere ... not even in the reviews ...

#crysx

If they are asics, then you won't find a make and model.  they are custom made.  But if they are by chance FPGA then there will be something out there.  

We don't know anything about them and no one has dissected one yet.

My first theory is that they are fpga.   My second theory is that they are asics that some hardware student designed in grad school in china and was able to get them on a tape out of a research wafer.   When i was in grad school for hardware/circuit design, we were allowed to piggy back on unused wafer space for IBM and TSMC.  It was something that was free for universities. for research only.

I believe the only way they could come back after release and add additional algos is if they are FPGAs.  I'm no EE, but that's the only thing that makes sense.  I was able to take my original X11 only mini and upgrade it to the additional algos they all now ship with.  FPGA.

[baskanx]

could u tell me how many chips are in the baikal cube, it should be in the net interface

Nine chips.

do you know which chips they are? ...

im curious as to what fpga / asic chips they use ...

any one pulled a miner apart to see? ...

only reason im asking is because of the cooling system - and the heat watt dissipation ... knowing the make and model of the chips can give us all the specs we need ... working on a better cooling system - and require all this info we cant seem to find anywhere ... not even in the reviews ...

#crysx

If they are asics, then you won't find a make and model.  they are custom made.  But if they are by chance FPGA then there will be something out there.  

We don't know anything about them and no one has dissected one yet.

My first theory is that they are fpga.   My second theory is that they are asics that some hardware student designed in grad school in china and was able to get them on a tape out of a research wafer.   When i was in grad school for hardware/circuit design, we were allowed to piggy back on unused wafer space for IBM and TSMC.  It was something that was free for universities. for research only.

I believe the only way they could come back after release and add additional algos is if they are FPGAs.  I'm no EE, but that's the only thing that makes sense.  I was able to take my original X11 only mini and upgrade it to the additional algos they all now ship with.  FPGA.

Algorithm http://www.baikalminer.com/support04.php

Have you tried this algorithm on different FPGA card

[chup]

Algorithm http://www.baikalminer.com/support04.php

Have you tried this algorithm on different FPGA card

This is link for controller (Orange PI) image. Links for device FIRMWARE noted in user manual are not working.

[TunerDude007]

If I don't get the chance to buy one in the next batch I swear to God I will go to China and hit them in their heads with their Quads......

LOL. You could always buy them at a 200% markup on aliexpress

Whats funny is that even when buying them at twice their retail value, they pull in about the same ROI as Bitmain Antminers, haha

Well for what it's worth, there is one on ebay selling for 999 bucks....

[usao]

If I don't get the chance to buy one in the next batch I swear to God I will go to China and hit them in their heads with their Quads......

LOL. You could always buy them at a 200% markup on aliexpress

Whats funny is that even when buying them at twice their retail value, they pull in about the same ROI as Bitmain Antminers, haha

Well for what it's worth, there is one on ebay selling for 999 bucks....

That's the 150MHs version. Those were selling for $300 at one point.

[wolf_miner]

Hi, are there any news from BAIKAL on the launch of new batch of product or new miners?

ceers W_M

[Throne game]

Is baikal's facebook profile baikal lee gone or I am unable to see it anymore?

Maybe they just restoring their facebook

[Tai_Pan]

This facebook restoring sure takes a lot of time.
Maybe they plan to leave the game

[variousred]

I just emailed them to place an order, ill let you know what they tell me. If theres any talk around here still about a group buy sign me up.

[Lumining]

Hello guys,
I wrote them a mail to ask when the next batch is coming. Here's their reply:

Hi,

Thank you for your email.

Regards the new stock, please check our website for your information, we will make our announcement there.

Best regards,
Baikal

I guess there are only two chances, either way you wait for the next batch and checkout their website everyday or you buy a miner over eBay for the triple of the original price.

Greetings,
Lumining

[Tai_Pan]

I just emailed them to place an order, ill let you know what they tell me. If theres any talk around here still about a group buy sign me up.

They will tell you:

out of stock, no idea when the new batch will be available 

That's the standard.

[variousred]

That is exactly what they said. I asked them if they would be emailing me when they *are* in stock, they said this:

Hi,

We will put you in the email list if your order quantity is more than 5 units of cube quad.

Best regards,
Baikal

[VoskCoin]

That is exactly what they said. I asked them if they would be emailing me when they *are* in stock, they said this:

Hi,

We will put you in the email list if your order quantity is more than 5 units of cube quad.

Best regards,
Baikal

I thought they were all about one cube to one person awhile ago? Has anyone heard more on them having miners in stock?

[Tai_Pan]

That is exactly what they said. I asked them if they would be emailing me when they *are* in stock, they said this:

Hi,

We will put you in the email list if your order quantity is more than 5 units of cube quad.

Best regards,
Baikal

Pay very close attention to whom you are talking.
That doesn't sound like Baikal.

[JPP1972]

baikal news.... email recived today.......

Hi,

Thank you for your email.

Regards the new stock, please check our website for your information, we will make our announcement there.

And we only accept the US dollar now.



Is possibile?

Only US Dollars?


bye!

[Tai_Pan]

baikal news.... email recived today.......

Hi,

Thank you for your email.

Regards the new stock, please check our website for your information, we will make our announcement there.

And we only accept the US dollar now.



Is possibile?

Only US Dollars?


bye!

That's what they said about the last batch also and they still accepted BTC.
We'll see.

[Grumo]

some miners has been blocked at the customs because of missing CE mark or some trouble like these
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1892390.msg19137624#msg19137624

[SplinterZalinsk]

some miners has been blocked at the customs because of missing CE mark or some trouble like these
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1892390.msg19137624#msg19137624

Has anyone ever had problems like that to receive any miner (Bitmain, Baikal, etc...) from China to United States?

[maleemk]

some miners has been blocked at the customs because of missing CE mark or some trouble like these
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1892390.msg19137624#msg19137624

Has anyone ever had problems like that to receive any miner (Bitmain, Baikal, etc...) from China to United States?

I have every type of Baikal Miner all of them have CE marking. I even close up image of my Cube here with CE marking. I don't know why these kind of misinformation pop up every now and then.
here
http://imgur.com/nqVMfZS
CE markings are clearly visible.

[TunerDude007]

I just emailed them to place an order, ill let you know what they tell me. If theres any talk around here still about a group buy sign me up.

They will tell you:

out of stock, no idea when the new batch will be available 

That's the standard.

Thats correct, no need to email/skype them all the time. Once they are available it says so on their site...just check 3-4 times a day. Thats how I got all mine.

[usao]

I missed the last 3 iterations due to checking AFTER they were sold out.
They sell out in minutes, not hours.
Once they are up, you better get in there fast.

The last one I bougut directly from Baikal was in Jan.

[variousred]

This seems pretty fishy. Heres a back and forth i had with baikal over email

Hi,

Thank you for your email, the price without shipping cost for one quad-cube is USD3196/unit.

Best regards,
Baikal

What is your preferred method of payment?

Hi,

We accept the US dollar only.

Best regards,
Baikal

Via credit card? Do you accept master card?

Hi,

Via bank transfer.

Best regards,
Baikal

What recourse does a bank transfer offer for recuperating funds if they do not follow through?

[Searing]

This seems pretty fishy. Heres a back and forth i had with baikal over email

Hi,

Thank you for your email, the price without shipping cost for one quad-cube is USD3196/unit.

Best regards,
Baikal

What is your preferred method of payment?

Hi,

We accept the US dollar only.

Best regards,
Baikal

Via credit card? Do you accept master card?

Hi,

Via bank transfer.

Best regards,
Baikal

What recourse does a bank transfer offer for recuperating funds if they do not follow through?

you sure you have the correct baikal? lots of scams....7 baikal's on skype only one is legit for an example

the fact you are getting a reply also maybe means it is a scam..they have not been talking to any of us  ..despite repeated emails

just saying, sounds fishy as hell

er also, when I send a bank xfer my banker says 'are you sure of the folk that are getting it, once its sent it is gone!" so no protection on wire xfer

[kodokbuduk]

I just emailed them to place an order, ill let you know what they tell me. If theres any talk around here still about a group buy sign me up.

They will tell you:

out of stock, no idea when the new batch will be available 

That's the standard.

Thats correct, no need to email/skype them all the time. Once they are available it says so on their site...just check 3-4 times a day. Thats how I got all mine.

you checked on their website and then what? how to order?

[Searing]

I just emailed them to place an order, ill let you know what they tell me. If theres any talk around here still about a group buy sign me up.

They will tell you:

out of stock, no idea when the new batch will be available  

That's the standard.

Thats correct, no need to email/skype them all the time. Once they are available it says so on their site...just check 3-4 times a day. Thats how I got all mine.

you checked on their website and then what? how to order?

We get no reply to emails ..which is normal...they say out of stock on skype..if they reply....

they will simply post on the web site when they have some. (no they don't do that either) ...the sales part
suddenly works with no announcement......you really find out if they are selling by someone being lucky..trying it
and succeeding and telling us here on this thread)...and it is then catch all catch can

weird way to sell stuff..but seems the norm for baikal

oh and then even if you get an order in ..they can lose it (happened to mine last run....oops they said)

its like an asic lottery run by the three stooges ...as far as ordering something goes

[variousred]

here are the email headers with my address stripped out

Message headers

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also, unrelated, why do I never get message updates from bitcointalk regarding replies? I have followed/watched this thread, have notifications turned on, etc. When I go to my profile and edit my watchlist i see the thread there.

[variousred]

"pre" sale, for double the cost
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/Advance-Sale-Baikal-Miner-CUBE-1200MH-DASH-Miner-X11-X13-X14-X15-Quark-Qubit-With/32812620603.html?spm=2114.01010208.3.127.A4epHl&ws_ab_test=searchweb0_0,searchweb201602_5_10152_10065_10151_10130_10068_5010013_10136_10137_10157_10060_10138_10155_10062_10156_437_10154_10056_10055_10054_10059_303_100031_10099_10103_10102_5190013_10096_10147_5170014_10052_10053_10107_10050_10142_10051_10084_10083_10080_10082_10081_10178_10110_519_10111_10112_10113_10114_10182_10185_10078_10079_10073_10123_142,searchweb201603_2,ppcSwitch_5&btsid=09c06af6-d06f-49f3-a80f-cf97029ee274&algo_expid=3b356734-c61b-435b-8961-4064d6a71197-17&algo_pvid=3b356734-c61b-435b-8961-4064d6a71197
I contacted them and asked when they will be in stock.

[TracerX]

You have a new message from AliExpress supplier Johnny chen.
Johnny chen: next month will have , if you want make order now , then give me extend 30 days delivery thanks

That dealer does not appear to have feedback, I would pass.

[TunerDude007]

I just emailed them to place an order, ill let you know what they tell me. If theres any talk around here still about a group buy sign me up.

They will tell you:

out of stock, no idea when the new batch will be available  

That's the standard.

Thats correct, no need to email/skype them all the time. Once they are available it says so on their site...just check 3-4 times a day. Thats how I got all mine.

you checked on their website and then what? how to order?

China is 12 hours ahead. So luckily I'm a night owl. So when I see them available on their website at 3am i then immediately get in touch through skype.

[usao]

When was the last time there were any available?

[Tai_Pan]

When was the last time there were any available?

It varies usao.And this was the case with the old type miners.
With this new type - the cube - it might be a totally new kind of sci-fi in baikal's way of organising the production / sales.

[usao]

When was the last time there were any available?

It varies usao.And this was the case with the old type miners.
With this new type - the cube - it might be a totally new kind of sci-fi in baikal's way of organising the production / sales.

I havent seen any for a while now, and wondered if I missed any recently. When was the last time that Baikal offered any for sale?

[wolf_miner]

WHAT only USD wire transfer    !!! why do they not use a system like bitpay in their business ? ?

Ceers W_M

[Searing]

WHAT only USD wire transfer    !!! why do they not use a system like bitpay in their business ? ?

Ceers W_M

 

I think you are in contact with a scammer. They also take btc and dash

[variousred]

Not anymore, unless their email account has been hacked.

[Searing]

Not anymore, unless their email account has been hacked.

Well they don't reply on email. Only on skype..so no idea what is going on with you or me on stuff.....

not like they reply on this forum anymore

besides just on skype was told nothing was for sale yet (5 min ago they replied)

just saying....sounds scammy? or one part of baikal does not know what the other part is doing

[allnewbie]

just stop conjecturing, stop sending email everyday... they tell what they know or what they want to share. useless to keep asking! and that's why(most part of)they missed some real questions email which to my opinion.

[kodokbuduk]

Their skype is off also i cant find it on facebook anymore. Something happen?

[Searing]

Their skype is off also i cant find it on facebook anymore. Something happen?

occasionally they reply on skype..about 50/50 when you ask, if you get a reply or not, other than that it seems nada

[triplef]

#1 how to explain Facebook disappearing, website cloning, and weird sky shit... greed or finance issues...

why.. they probably were a few to join to dev the Baikal

they got the first batch of cash in ... they argued.. one left the gang, hijacked domain name..

then he tried to leverage others to get his share, didnt.. so he redirected email and cloned a backup version of website, hence the disparities of the site when it came up..

the others complained at facebook and they only got the account closed as a result..

result is .. who to trust in this ? it seems as they are split up in 2 gangs, one with public facing site, and one with skype access.. none have stock,

the guy that left with website and emails is surely to scam all of you to get is capital back from the baikal ventures, and the skype crew probably will drop this and rename the baikal and come back on another name.

not only is comms really really shitty but the whole product is flaky at best, i got a 150 and rma'd on the spot, looking at the code base i understand why.

so i guess we need to move along, or raize 500,000k to 1 mill and build our own miners..

[triplef]

https://www.gofundme.com/bitcoin-miner-development-group

[Longsnowsm]

#1 how to explain Facebook disappearing, website cloning, and weird sky shit... greed or finance issues...

why.. they probably were a few to join to dev the Baikal

they got the first batch of cash in ... they argued.. one left the gang, hijacked domain name..

then he tried to leverage others to get his share, didnt.. so he redirected email and cloned a backup version of website, hence the disparities of the site when it came up..

the others complained at facebook and they only got the account closed as a result..

result is .. who to trust in this ? it seems as they are split up in 2 gangs, one with public facing site, and one with skype access.. none have stock,

the guy that left with website and emails is surely to scam all of you to get is capital back from the baikal ventures, and the skype crew probably will drop this and rename the baikal and come back on another name.

not only is comms really really shitty but the whole product is flaky at best, i got a 150 and rma'd on the spot, looking at the code base i understand why.

so i guess we need to move along, or raize 500,000k to 1 mill and build our own miners..

I guess I am a little confused.  The web site seems to be working.  FB page is still there.  The info still appears to be correct on the web page.  So I am not sure why the uncertainty about Baikal.  The problems that have popped up have been due to scammers that setup "similar" sites, email addresses, and skype handles.  The same is true for Bitmain there are scammers all over the place.  So just double/triple check your URL, email, or skype handle you are trying to communicate with.  The fact that we don't get responses from Baikal other than to be redirected to the FB page is just a lack of communication on Baikal's part.  

If you have an outstanding order with Baikal that they have not shipped then keep pinging them until they respond.  So far they appear to resolve any unfinished business if you can finally reach a person there.  

The only real question I have at the moment is in regards to Baikal's plans to release more miners.  And do they have any plans to counter the iBelink miner that is rumored to be coming.  Those are the things I would like to know.  Baikal may be slow to respond and not able to handle the demand for their miners, but I have yet to see them do anything to scam this community.  

[Tai_Pan]

#1 how to explain Facebook disappearing, website cloning, and weird sky shit... greed or finance issues...

why.. they probably were a few to join to dev the Baikal

they got the first batch of cash in ... they argued.. one left the gang, hijacked domain name..

then he tried to leverage others to get his share, didnt.. so he redirected email and cloned a backup version of website, hence the disparities of the site when it came up..

the others complained at facebook and they only got the account closed as a result..

result is .. who to trust in this ? it seems as they are split up in 2 gangs, one with public facing site, and one with skype access.. none have stock,

the guy that left with website and emails is surely to scam all of you to get is capital back from the baikal ventures, and the skype crew probably will drop this and rename the baikal and come back on another name.

not only is comms really really shitty but the whole product is flaky at best, i got a 150 and rma'd on the spot, looking at the code base i understand why.

so i guess we need to move along, or raize 500,000k to 1 mill and build our own miners..

I guess I am a little confused.  The web site seems to be working.  FB page is still there.  The info still appears to be correct on the web page.  So I am not sure why the uncertainty about Baikal.  The problems that have popped up have been due to scammers that setup "similar" sites, email addresses, and skype handles.  The same is true for Bitmain there are scammers all over the place.  So just double/triple check your URL, email, or skype handle you are trying to communicate with.  The fact that we don't get responses from Baikal other than to be redirected to the FB page is just a lack of communication on Baikal's part.  

If you have an outstanding order with Baikal that they have not shipped then keep pinging them until they respond.  So far they appear to resolve any unfinished business if you can finally reach a person there.  

The only real question I have at the moment is in regards to Baikal's plans to release more miners.  And do they have any plans to counter the iBelink miner that is rumored to be coming.  Those are the things I would like to know.  Baikal may be slow to respond and not able to handle the demand for their miners, but I have yet to see them do anything to scam this community.  

What fb page do you have?

[Longsnowsm]

I have Baikal Miner @baikalmining on FB.  There is a second one listed, but it is clear it is a scam they are selling product and redirecting you to another site that has been reported here as a scam site.  So if you see product listed for sale on the FB page you are on the WRONG FB page.

[Tai_Pan]

I have Baikal Miner @baikalmining on FB.  There is a second one listed, but it is clear it is a scam they are selling product and redirecting you to another site that has been reported here as a scam site.  So if you see product listed for sale on the FB page you are on the WRONG FB page.

Well I do have the original skype from the times the company has just started.And they said that their facebook page was the one called baikal lee.
After that dissapeared they said their fb is under construction and rearrangement so i would be carefull if I were you to whom you are talking to.
Just a friendly warning

[chrysophylax]

I have Baikal Miner @baikalmining on FB.  There is a second one listed, but it is clear it is a scam they are selling product and redirecting you to another site that has been reported here as a scam site.  So if you see product listed for sale on the FB page you are on the WRONG FB page.

always always ALWAYS ...

always put down the EXACT url of the profile you are referring to ...

placing the name @baikalmining for a search is useless ...

this is the issue with almost EVERYONE here that quotes pages and websites and skype profiles ...

so please guys and gals - ALWAYS put here the EXACT addresses and profile id ... that way - NO ONE gets confused ...

tanx ...

#crysx

[maleemk]

From the look of it Baikal is opening for the order soon.
My reason is out of nowhere they replied over skype with following massage.

Hi,  please be more patience, we will update it toour website once miner is ready.

[Gunna01]

From the look of it Baikal is opening for the order soon.
My reason is out of nowhere they replied over skype with following massage.

Hi,  please be more patience, we will update it toour website once miner is ready.

I ask them every Monday and I have gotten that response for the last 3 weeks.

[AriesIV10]

I would really like to get into this market; but until there is another manufacturer, I do not believe that there is a feasible way to expand this arena.

[italianMiner72]

I would really like to get into this market; but until there is another manufacturer, I do not believe that there is a feasible way to expand this arena.

i'm registered on baikalminers since months...
but never, i was able to buy a miners, no MINI, no CUBE no QUAD.
they are very approssimative...
hope they will fix it soon

[bigassboy]

I would really like to get into this market; but until there is another manufacturer, I do not believe that there is a feasible way to expand this arena.

i'm registered on baikalminers since months...
but never, i was able to buy a miners, no MINI, no CUBE no QUAD.
they are very approssimative...
hope they will fix it soon

You need to check on their website every now and then and when you see its available, don't delay and straight make the purchase. That's what I did and so far owned a few cubes and eyeing for more.

[couture]

i think baikal might have shut up shop for now
potentially so they can work on the next generation of X11 miners


unless anyone has any secret news or leaked info of a batch 3.0 cube release?

(i had two cubes in my cart on batch 1.0, couldnt get BTC in time, then had delayed notification of batch 1.5 release so didnt get any then, and finally got some ordered at batch 2.0 release)

[GMPoison]

i think baikal might have shut up shop for now
potentially so they can work on the next generation of X11 miners


unless anyone has any secret news or leaked info of a batch 3.0 cube release?

(i had two cubes in my cart on batch 1.0, couldnt get BTC in time, then had delayed notification of batch 1.5 release so didnt get any then, and finally got some ordered at batch 2.0 release)

They haven't "shut up shop" more than they do every time they release a new batch. It will take some time for the next generation/batch to come out, but with all of the money they make by mining with them then selling them and being sold out within 24 hours, there's no way they will stop producing them now.

[wolf_miner]

Hi, are there any news from BAIKAL on the launch of new batch of CUBE / Giant or new miners?

Ceers W_M

[Searing]

Hi, are there any news from BAIKAL on the launch of new batch of CUBE / Giant or new miners?

Ceers W_M

er nope..an they likely will NOT be an annoucement...or there never has been on their web site before a sale I've ever seen....they just put them up for sale....like a crypto machine 'snipe hunt' ..catch all catch can....

fun folk....they like to just toss them out there on an unworkable web site and even if you are told all is well on your order

the chances are 50/50 you will get it. They also like to say on one auction you had 2 hrs to pay from their email...that was fun being

in USA an all and asleep at 3am.....poof and its gone



So anyway out of 3 tries to get equip when offered....was told I had equip all 3 times....only got it 1 time..the rest I got follow up
message they were mistaken or the good old 3am window was missed

fun times, baikal has a unique way of selling stuff......

[GMPoison]

Hi, are there any news from BAIKAL on the launch of new batch of CUBE / Giant or new miners?

Ceers W_M

er nope..an they likely will NOT be an annoucement...or there never has been on their web site before a sale I've ever seen....they just put them up for sale....like a crypto machine 'snipe hunt' ..catch all catch can....

fun folk....they like to just toss them out there on an unworkable web site and even if you are told all is well on your order

the chances are 50/50 you will get it. They also like to say on one auction you had 2 hrs to pay from their email...that was fun being

in USA an all and asleep at 3am.....poof and its gone



So anyway out of 3 tries to get equip when offered....was told I had equip all 3 times....only got it 1 time..the rest I got follow up
message they were mistaken or the good old 3am window was missed

fun times, baikal has a unique way of selling stuff......

I've got something like this setup so when their quad cube goes back in stock even at 3 am I can spring into action to purchase lol. I Just hope they don't create a new webpage for when a new batch is released, and they just update the old one to say it's in stock. Do you know for sure what they do?

https://addons.mozilla.org/en-us/firefox/addon/alertbox/

[TracerX]

Hi, are there any news from BAIKAL on the launch of new batch of CUBE / Giant or new miners?

Ceers W_M

er nope..an they likely will NOT be an annoucement...or there never has been on their web site before a sale I've ever seen....they just put them up for sale....like a crypto machine 'snipe hunt' ..catch all catch can....

fun folk....they like to just toss them out there on an unworkable web site and even if you are told all is well on your order

the chances are 50/50 you will get it. They also like to say on one auction you had 2 hrs to pay from their email...that was fun being

in USA an all and asleep at 3am.....poof and its gone



So anyway out of 3 tries to get equip when offered....was told I had equip all 3 times....only got it 1 time..the rest I got follow up
message they were mistaken or the good old 3am window was missed

fun times, baikal has a unique way of selling stuff......

I've got something like this setup so when their quad cube goes back in stock even at 3 am I can spring into action to purchase lol. I Just hope they don't create a new webpage for when a new batch is released, and they just update the old one to say it's in stock. Do you know for sure what they do?

https://addons.mozilla.org/en-us/firefox/addon/alertbox/

They have updated their website frequently, almost as often as they release batches.

[GMPoison]

Hi, are there any news from BAIKAL on the launch of new batch of CUBE / Giant or new miners?

Ceers W_M

er nope..an they likely will NOT be an annoucement...or there never has been on their web site before a sale I've ever seen....they just put them up for sale....like a crypto machine 'snipe hunt' ..catch all catch can....

fun folk....they like to just toss them out there on an unworkable web site and even if you are told all is well on your order

the chances are 50/50 you will get it. They also like to say on one auction you had 2 hrs to pay from their email...that was fun being

in USA an all and asleep at 3am.....poof and its gone



So anyway out of 3 tries to get equip when offered....was told I had equip all 3 times....only got it 1 time..the rest I got follow up
message they were mistaken or the good old 3am window was missed

fun times, baikal has a unique way of selling stuff......

I've got something like this setup so when their quad cube goes back in stock even at 3 am I can spring into action to purchase lol. I Just hope they don't create a new webpage for when a new batch is released, and they just update the old one to say it's in stock. Do you know for sure what they do?

https://addons.mozilla.org/en-us/firefox/addon/alertbox/

They have updated their website frequently, almost as often as they release batches.

If they don't release another batch in the next month or two I'm just going to buy Antminers and eat the potential profits because I don't want to wait much longer lol. It's going to suck because going with Antminers means more electricity, paying for rent for a warehouse, and less profits, but if Baikal doesn't release another batch by the end of summer, I'm not waiting around. Either way I'll be making a lot by mining. Either that or I'll probably go with the Antminer Litecoin machines which are twice as profitable as even Baikals.

[Liquid71]

Didn't someone come out with a much more powerful x11 miner?

Either way buying and reselling these is as profitable as mining since you can flip for instant double your money, at least when they were in stock 

[Liquid71]

Hi, are there any news from BAIKAL on the launch of new batch of CUBE / Giant or new miners?

Ceers W_M

er nope..an they likely will NOT be an annoucement...or there never has been on their web site before a sale I've ever seen....they just put them up for sale....like a crypto machine 'snipe hunt' ..catch all catch can....

fun folk....they like to just toss them out there on an unworkable web site and even if you are told all is well on your order

the chances are 50/50 you will get it. They also like to say on one auction you had 2 hrs to pay from their email...that was fun being

in USA an all and asleep at 3am.....poof and its gone



So anyway out of 3 tries to get equip when offered....was told I had equip all 3 times....only got it 1 time..the rest I got follow up
message they were mistaken or the good old 3am window was missed

fun times, baikal has a unique way of selling stuff......

I've got something like this setup so when their quad cube goes back in stock even at 3 am I can spring into action to purchase lol. I Just hope they don't create a new webpage for when a new batch is released, and they just update the old one to say it's in stock. Do you know for sure what they do?

https://addons.mozilla.org/en-us/firefox/addon/alertbox/

They have updated their website frequently, almost as often as they release batches.

If they don't release another batch in the next month or two I'm just going to buy Antminers and eat the potential profits because I don't want to wait much longer lol. It's going to suck because going with Antminers means more electricity, paying for rent for a warehouse, and less profits, but if Baikal doesn't release another batch by the end of summer, I'm not waiting around. Either way I'll be making a lot by mining. Either that or I'll probably go with the Antminer Litecoin machines which are twice as profitable as even Baikals.

You could get Antminers and then if/when a new bactch is released send the Antminers to Giga Watt for hosting, it's cheap and if the Antminers ever break they have on site repair no sending back to China, actually better to mine Bitmain asics with Giga Watt than to host them at home, not to mention the noise factor 

[GMPoison]

Hi, are there any news from BAIKAL on the launch of new batch of CUBE / Giant or new miners?

Ceers W_M

er nope..an they likely will NOT be an annoucement...or there never has been on their web site before a sale I've ever seen....they just put them up for sale....like a crypto machine 'snipe hunt' ..catch all catch can....

fun folk....they like to just toss them out there on an unworkable web site and even if you are told all is well on your order

the chances are 50/50 you will get it. They also like to say on one auction you had 2 hrs to pay from their email...that was fun being

in USA an all and asleep at 3am.....poof and its gone



So anyway out of 3 tries to get equip when offered....was told I had equip all 3 times....only got it 1 time..the rest I got follow up
message they were mistaken or the good old 3am window was missed

fun times, baikal has a unique way of selling stuff......

I've got something like this setup so when their quad cube goes back in stock even at 3 am I can spring into action to purchase lol. I Just hope they don't create a new webpage for when a new batch is released, and they just update the old one to say it's in stock. Do you know for sure what they do?

https://addons.mozilla.org/en-us/firefox/addon/alertbox/

They have updated their website frequently, almost as often as they release batches.

If they don't release another batch in the next month or two I'm just going to buy Antminers and eat the potential profits because I don't want to wait much longer lol. It's going to suck because going with Antminers means more electricity, paying for rent for a warehouse, and less profits, but if Baikal doesn't release another batch by the end of summer, I'm not waiting around. Either way I'll be making a lot by mining. Either that or I'll probably go with the Antminer Litecoin machines which are twice as profitable as even Baikals.

You could get Antminers and then if/when a new bactch is released send the Antminers to Giga Watt for hosting, it's cheap and if the Antminers ever break they have on site repair no sending back to China, actually better to mine Bitmain asics with Giga Watt than to host them at home, not to mention the noise factor 

Look up the newest batch of Bitmain Antminer L3's. They're more than twice as profitable as Baikals. Sure it only mines Litecoin, but look at how stable Litecoin has been the past year. Who cares if they consume 800w per, I'll have power installed in a warehouse and rent it out for the amount of profits I'll be bringing in with those things. They have a ~40-50 day ROI. Hope they don't run out of stock soon I need to buy them.

[TunerDude007]

Hi, are there any news from BAIKAL on the launch of new batch of CUBE / Giant or new miners?

Ceers W_M

er nope..an they likely will NOT be an annoucement...or there never has been on their web site before a sale I've ever seen....they just put them up for sale....like a crypto machine 'snipe hunt' ..catch all catch can....

fun folk....they like to just toss them out there on an unworkable web site and even if you are told all is well on your order

the chances are 50/50 you will get it. They also like to say on one auction you had 2 hrs to pay from their email...that was fun being

in USA an all and asleep at 3am.....poof and its gone



So anyway out of 3 tries to get equip when offered....was told I had equip all 3 times....only got it 1 time..the rest I got follow up
message they were mistaken or the good old 3am window was missed

fun times, baikal has a unique way of selling stuff......

I've got something like this setup so when their quad cube goes back in stock even at 3 am I can spring into action to purchase lol. I Just hope they don't create a new webpage for when a new batch is released, and they just update the old one to say it's in stock. Do you know for sure what they do?

https://addons.mozilla.org/en-us/firefox/addon/alertbox/

They have updated their website frequently, almost as often as they release batches.

If they don't release another batch in the next month or two I'm just going to buy Antminers and eat the potential profits because I don't want to wait much longer lol. It's going to suck because going with Antminers means more electricity, paying for rent for a warehouse, and less profits, but if Baikal doesn't release another batch by the end of summer, I'm not waiting around. Either way I'll be making a lot by mining. Either that or I'll probably go with the Antminer Litecoin machines which are twice as profitable as even Baikals.

You could get Antminers and then if/when a new bactch is released send the Antminers to Giga Watt for hosting, it's cheap and if the Antminers ever break they have on site repair no sending back to China, actually better to mine Bitmain asics with Giga Watt than to host them at home, not to mention the noise factor 

Look up the newest batch of Bitmain Antminer L3's. They're more than twice as profitable as Baikals. Sure it only mines Litecoin, but look at how stable Litecoin has been the past year. Who cares if they consume 800w per, I'll have power installed in a warehouse and rent it out for the amount of profits I'll be bringing in with those things. They have a ~40-50 day ROI. Hope they don't run out of stock soon I need to buy them.

Actually L3+ should mine all scrypt coin, not just Litecoin

[TracerX]

Hi, are there any news from BAIKAL on the launch of new batch of CUBE / Giant or new miners?

Ceers W_M

er nope..an they likely will NOT be an annoucement...or there never has been on their web site before a sale I've ever seen....they just put them up for sale....like a crypto machine 'snipe hunt' ..catch all catch can....

fun folk....they like to just toss them out there on an unworkable web site and even if you are told all is well on your order

the chances are 50/50 you will get it. They also like to say on one auction you had 2 hrs to pay from their email...that was fun being

in USA an all and asleep at 3am.....poof and its gone



So anyway out of 3 tries to get equip when offered....was told I had equip all 3 times....only got it 1 time..the rest I got follow up
message they were mistaken or the good old 3am window was missed

fun times, baikal has a unique way of selling stuff......

I've got something like this setup so when their quad cube goes back in stock even at 3 am I can spring into action to purchase lol. I Just hope they don't create a new webpage for when a new batch is released, and they just update the old one to say it's in stock. Do you know for sure what they do?

https://addons.mozilla.org/en-us/firefox/addon/alertbox/

They have updated their website frequently, almost as often as they release batches.

If they don't release another batch in the next month or two I'm just going to buy Antminers and eat the potential profits because I don't want to wait much longer lol. It's going to suck because going with Antminers means more electricity, paying for rent for a warehouse, and less profits, but if Baikal doesn't release another batch by the end of summer, I'm not waiting around. Either way I'll be making a lot by mining. Either that or I'll probably go with the Antminer Litecoin machines which are twice as profitable as even Baikals.

You could get Antminers and then if/when a new bactch is released send the Antminers to Giga Watt for hosting, it's cheap and if the Antminers ever break they have on site repair no sending back to China, actually better to mine Bitmain asics with Giga Watt than to host them at home, not to mention the noise factor 

Look up the newest batch of Bitmain Antminer L3's. They're more than twice as profitable as Baikals. Sure it only mines Litecoin, but look at how stable Litecoin has been the past year. Who cares if they consume 800w per, I'll have power installed in a warehouse and rent it out for the amount of profits I'll be bringing in with those things. They have a ~40-50 day ROI. Hope they don't run out of stock soon I need to buy them.

Aug-Sept delivery date, though. 

[GMPoison]

Hi, are there any news from BAIKAL on the launch of new batch of CUBE / Giant or new miners?

Ceers W_M

er nope..an they likely will NOT be an annoucement...or there never has been on their web site before a sale I've ever seen....they just put them up for sale....like a crypto machine 'snipe hunt' ..catch all catch can....

fun folk....they like to just toss them out there on an unworkable web site and even if you are told all is well on your order

the chances are 50/50 you will get it. They also like to say on one auction you had 2 hrs to pay from their email...that was fun being

in USA an all and asleep at 3am.....poof and its gone



So anyway out of 3 tries to get equip when offered....was told I had equip all 3 times....only got it 1 time..the rest I got follow up
message they were mistaken or the good old 3am window was missed

fun times, baikal has a unique way of selling stuff......

I've got something like this setup so when their quad cube goes back in stock even at 3 am I can spring into action to purchase lol. I Just hope they don't create a new webpage for when a new batch is released, and they just update the old one to say it's in stock. Do you know for sure what they do?

https://addons.mozilla.org/en-us/firefox/addon/alertbox/

They have updated their website frequently, almost as often as they release batches.

If they don't release another batch in the next month or two I'm just going to buy Antminers and eat the potential profits because I don't want to wait much longer lol. It's going to suck because going with Antminers means more electricity, paying for rent for a warehouse, and less profits, but if Baikal doesn't release another batch by the end of summer, I'm not waiting around. Either way I'll be making a lot by mining. Either that or I'll probably go with the Antminer Litecoin machines which are twice as profitable as even Baikals.

You could get Antminers and then if/when a new bactch is released send the Antminers to Giga Watt for hosting, it's cheap and if the Antminers ever break they have on site repair no sending back to China, actually better to mine Bitmain asics with Giga Watt than to host them at home, not to mention the noise factor 

Look up the newest batch of Bitmain Antminer L3's. They're more than twice as profitable as Baikals. Sure it only mines Litecoin, but look at how stable Litecoin has been the past year. Who cares if they consume 800w per, I'll have power installed in a warehouse and rent it out for the amount of profits I'll be bringing in with those things. They have a ~40-50 day ROI. Hope they don't run out of stock soon I need to buy them.

Aug-Sept delivery date, though. 

While that's true, I don't think it's a problem given how stable LTC has been. 

[TracerX]

While that's true, I don't think it's a problem given how stable LTC has been. 

You're likely not wrong.  I'm going to hold off on buying anything from BITMAIN until the crazy UASF shakes out.  It's the wild west, for sure.

[GMPoison]

While that's true, I don't think it's a problem given how stable LTC has been.  

You're likely not wrong.  I'm going to hold off on buying anything from BITMAIN until the crazy UASF shakes out.  It's the wild west, for sure.

Probably not a bad idea, I just don't see the possibility of bitcoin tanking from it to the point that it wouldn't be profitable to mine - or profitable to mine and hold on to the coins believing it will rebound. If you are mining at the moment however, what hardware do you own if not Bitmain?

[TracerX]

While that's true, I don't think it's a problem given how stable LTC has been.  

You're likely not wrong.  I'm going to hold off on buying anything from BITMAIN until the crazy UASF shakes out.  It's the wild west, for sure.

Probably not a bad idea, I just don't see the possibility of bitcoin tanking from it to the point that it wouldn't be profitable to mine - or profitable to mine and hold on to the coins believing it will rebound. If you are mining at the moment however, what hardware do you own if not Bitmain?

I was lucky and got in one the early batches of Baikal.

[Tai_Pan]

Guys I just got some inside very trusted info regarding the Baikal situation.

It seems that they have no more chips for their miners at the moment and it is unknown if / when they can get some more.

[drsub]

They are working on the new chip to crash the new ibelink when they come out. Just wait ! 

[Tai_Pan]

They are working on the new chip to crash the new ibelink when they come out. Just wait ! 

I hope so but I tend to trust very much the person who gave me the info I wrote in my prevoius post

[Longsnowsm]

They are working on the new chip to crash the new ibelink when they come out. Just wait ! 

I hope you are right.  I am not so optimistic however.  I would prefer the Baikal over the iBelink any day of the week at this point from the info we have been told about the iBelink.  Lets hope they are working on it.

[Gunna01]

They are working on the new chip to crash the new ibelink when they come out. Just wait ! 

And you know this how? Proof, source or email?

[wolf_miner]

Guys I just got some inside very trusted info regarding the Baikal situation.

It seems that they have no more chips for their miners at the moment and it is unknown if / when they can get some more.

Bad news, if they have no more chip we have to wait a long time before the next batch will be released .

W_M

[Tai_Pan]

Guys I just got some inside very trusted info regarding the Baikal situation.

It seems that they have no more chips for their miners at the moment and it is unknown if / when they can get some more.

Bad news, if they have no more chip we have to wait a long time before the next batch will be released .

W_M

Yeah, I thought so too.But maybe they'll bring something with an even higher MH rate.

[AriesIV10]

Guys I just got some inside very trusted info regarding the Baikal situation.

It seems that they have no more chips for their miners at the moment and it is unknown if / when they can get some more.

Bad news, if they have no more chip we have to wait a long time before the next batch will be released .

W_M

Yeah, I thought so too.But maybe they'll bring something with an even higher MH rate.

There may be a redesign with a new chip as well.

[maleemk]

To compete with ibelink new X11 miner, if BAIKAL can produce a miner with 50%-75% hashing power and with right price (IMHO they have a Better chance to do that) than it will be no brainer to prefer them over ibelink miners as they can mine 6 algos( number of algos may increase also). I know I am an optimistic fan boy of BAIKAL.

[ruptan]

When is the new iBelink coming? Any idea?

[Longsnowsm]

The iBelink is slated to start shipping the end of July.  But as with all new miners they rarely if ever make the date.  So you are likely looking at August/September time frame.  And it is quite possible early batches may have their share of firmware and hardware issues as they will push hard to get these out as quickly as they can.  If they deliver what they have stated so far it will be dramatically more efficient than the current Baikal miner. 

So Baikal will have to update their existing miner if they hope to remain competitive. 

[TracerX]

The iBelink is slated to start shipping the end of July.  But as with all new miners they rarely if ever make the date.  So you are likely looking at August/September time frame.  And it is quite possible early batches may have their share of firmware and hardware issues as they will push hard to get these out as quickly as they can.  If they deliver what they have stated so far it will be dramatically more efficient than the current Baikal miner. 

So Baikal will have to update their existing miner if they hope to remain competitive. 

Will the iBelink only run X11?  Even if it's more efficient (and the wattage on the Baikal is amazing) I would still want the multi-alog devices from Baikal.

[Longsnowsm]

The iBelink is slated to start shipping the end of July.  But as with all new miners they rarely if ever make the date.  So you are likely looking at August/September time frame.  And it is quite possible early batches may have their share of firmware and hardware issues as they will push hard to get these out as quickly as they can.  If they deliver what they have stated so far it will be dramatically more efficient than the current Baikal miner. 

So Baikal will have to update their existing miner if they hope to remain competitive. 

Will the iBelink only run X11?  Even if it's more efficient (and the wattage on the Baikal is amazing) I would still want the multi-alog devices from Baikal.

That is what we have heard so far is that it is an X11 miner.  Nothing about other algo support.

[buggy166]

The iBelink is slated to start shipping the end of July.  But as with all new miners they rarely if ever make the date.  So you are likely looking at August/September time frame.  And it is quite possible early batches may have their share of firmware and hardware issues as they will push hard to get these out as quickly as they can.  If they deliver what they have stated so far it will be dramatically more efficient than the current Baikal miner. 

So Baikal will have to update their existing miner if they hope to remain competitive. 

Will the iBelink only run X11?  Even if it's more efficient (and the wattage on the Baikal is amazing) I would still want the multi-alog devices from Baikal.

even if it runs only X11, the same old adage applies. Never put all your eggs into 1 basket.

The much MUCH bigger problem with all miners isnt that they can mine only 1 thing. The major issue is you can't find them anywhere to buy. That should be your primary concern. (or relief if you already own a farm)

[TracerX]

The iBelink is slated to start shipping the end of July.  But as with all new miners they rarely if ever make the date.  So you are likely looking at August/September time frame.  And it is quite possible early batches may have their share of firmware and hardware issues as they will push hard to get these out as quickly as they can.  If they deliver what they have stated so far it will be dramatically more efficient than the current Baikal miner. 

So Baikal will have to update their existing miner if they hope to remain competitive. 

Will the iBelink only run X11?  Even if it's more efficient (and the wattage on the Baikal is amazing) I would still want the multi-alog devices from Baikal.

even if it runs only X11, the same old adage applies. Never put all your eggs into 1 basket.

The much MUCH bigger problem with all miners isnt that they can mine only 1 thing. The major issue is you can't find them anywhere to buy. That should be your primary concern. (or relief if you already own a farm)

Diversification is important, I agree.  Is there more information on the iBelink device?

[bittawm]

our collective sold dozens to the community of the 11ghs x11 miners after baikal stopped communicating

we will be releasing batch 2 soon, pm me if you want to be on the waiting list

cheers

[Longsnowsm]

I heard that Daulminer will we releasing some info over the coming weeks about the iBelink.  You might do well to NOT plunk down your money here on this forum with certain "group buy" activities until we hear what the company has to say and we get an idea of pricing and availability. 

The Dualminer has never been known for offering attractive price to performance in the past so I am not overly optimistic that it is going to be some fantastic price point, but since we see seriously high prices here on this forum for these units it cannot hurt to see what the company will be selling them for before sinking $9k or more into one here.

[baskanx]

Baikal what time the sale will be opened for ?

[Longsnowsm]

Baikal what time the sale will be opened for ?

Where did you hear Baikal will have anything to sell?  At this point in time I don't think any of us have heard anything about more miners coming available.  But it should would be a welcomed development. 

[baskanx]

Baikal what time the sale will be opened for ?

Where did you hear Baikal will have anything to sell?  At this point in time I don't think any of us have heard anything about more miners coming available.  But it should would be a welcomed development. 

I do not know  Just hope.  Why is not selling

[charles2k]

Today they replied me, that no news about availibility...

Baikal what time the sale will be opened for ?

[bittawm]

pathetic company

[Longsnowsm]

Small company that just can't meet the demand.  I am surprised Bitmain doesn't buy them out and hire their engineers because they clearly have the most advanced product in this space.  I hope that doesn't happen for a lot of reasons, but it wouldn't surprise me if it did.

[TomPlatz]

pathetic company

If X11 returns drop I am sure Baikal will suddenly have stock to sell.

Of course if they do I think they would discover less enthusiasm overall

[wolf_miner]

Hi, are there any news from BAIKAL on the launch of new batch of CUBE / QUAD / Giant or new miners?

Ceers W_M

[Longsnowsm]

Hi, are there any news from BAIKAL on the launch of new batch of CUBE / QUAD / Giant or new miners?

Ceers W_M

Unfortunately no news.  Probably best to follow them on Facebook and to periodically hit their web page if you want updates.  I don't get the impression they are really out here on the forum much and it is hard to reach them via email or Skype.  That is probably the best shot you have to know what is going on.

[orisman]

Got reply today:


"I hope it will be soon since we are out of stock for a very long time"

"sorry, no date. pelase be more patience"

Hope you guys has better news

[Longsnowsm]

We just heard that they are talking about a 2gh miner, but an insane price tag of 7k on it.  Sadly if this is true I think Baikal will have to go back to just mining their own gear.  With iBelink 11g coming this 2gh unit at that price tag doesn't stand a chance.

This is bad news for Baikal if true.

[kodokbuduk]

Any news about ibelink?

[Longsnowsm]

Last word I heard about the iBelink is that they will be updating their web site with the new miner info, but no time frame, they just say watch their web site for more info. 

Sadly brace yourself for sticker shock.  Baikal got into the shroons and are thinking they are going to sell 2gh miners for 7k each... I can only imagine what iBelink will be asking for these things.  At this point I am not holding my breath for either one at those price points. 

[maleemk]

HERE IS THE EMAIL I HAVE RECEIVED FROM OFFICIAL BAIKAL MINER EMAIL AFTER MY SKYPE CONVERSATION WITH THEM. (YES ITS A LEGIT EMAIL AND SKYPE ACCOUNT AS I HAVE BOUGHT WITH THEM SEVERAL MINER WITH SAME SKYPE AND EMAIL, NOTE THAT I WAS ASKING FOR 10 OF THESE GIANTS).

Hi,
 
Further the conversation on Skype.
 
Total cost would be:
Miner+shipping=70000+543=70543usd
 
Ship to:
Aleem Khan
--------------------------
Phone:------------------
 
Bank info for receiving payment please find from attached file.
 
After you done the transfer, kindly provide me the payment voucher and your passport, if paid from company bank account, please provide the copy of your business license.

best regards.
Baikal miner


Our cutting-edge technology creates a brighter future for you！
Web: www.baikalminer.com 丨 Skype: baikalminer
Email:baikal@baikalminer.com   丨 Facebook: @baikalminer.offical

[drsub]

Dash hashrate already double ...

Currently 13.30 Th/s

July 5th was 6.20 Th/s

And the baikals and ibelinks are not even out. Get ready people, Thank God i already got my ROI on all of my 8 baikals.

[not.you]

At this point I would be very careful about spending any sizeable chunk on an x11 miner.  Baikal has a new miner, PinIdea has a new miner, and iBelink supposedly has a monster right around the corner.  There is almost no info on how many of each of these miners there are or how quickly new ones will be coming out.  Hashrate could go really high very soon.

[kodokbuduk]

At this point I would be very careful about spending any sizeable chunk on an x11 miner.  Baikal has a new miner, PinIdea has a new miner, and iBelink supposedly has a monster right around the corner.  There is almost no info on how many of each of these miners there are or how quickly new ones will be coming out.  Hashrate could go really high very soon.

pinidea has new miner? what model?

[shaninium]

At this point I would be very careful about spending any sizeable chunk on an x11 miner.  Baikal has a new miner, PinIdea has a new miner, and iBelink supposedly has a monster right around the corner.  There is almost no info on how many of each of these miners there are or how quickly new ones will be coming out.  Hashrate could go really high very soon.

pinidea has new miner? what model?

Pinidea drx 1200mh

[Searing]

At this point I would be very careful about spending any sizeable chunk on an x11 miner.  Baikal has a new miner, PinIdea has a new miner, and iBelink supposedly has a monster right around the corner.  There is almost no info on how many of each of these miners there are or how quickly new ones will be coming out.  Hashrate could go really high very soon.

I hope they offer the 300mh cubes too. I'd rather have 10 cubes at 3,000 mh and pay more than all my eggs in 1 basket with ONE unit, in case something goes bad.

I mean, what do they have a 90 day warranty. Just saying a 300mh cube blows you still have 90% of your equip yet to mine with.

Just a thought

[bclcjunkie]

lucky for you but not so lucky for idiots who bought them recently. once ibelink starts shipping those poor souls be spreading butt cheeks for sure. it's payback time.

Dash hashrate already double ...

Currently 13.30 Th/s

July 5th was 6.20 Th/s

And the baikals and ibelinks are not even out. Get ready people, Thank God i already got my ROI on all of my 8 baikals.

[VoskCoin]

At this point I would be very careful about spending any sizeable chunk on an x11 miner.  Baikal has a new miner, PinIdea has a new miner, and iBelink supposedly has a monster right around the corner.  There is almost no info on how many of each of these miners there are or how quickly new ones will be coming out.  Hashrate could go really high very soon.

I hope they offer the 300mh cubes too. I'd rather have 10 cubes at 3,000 mh and pay more than all my eggs in 1 basket with ONE unit, in case something goes bad.

I mean, what do they have a 90 day warranty. Just saying a 300mh cube blows you still have 90% of your equip yet to mine with.

Just a thought

Completely agree with that thought process, their new 2k mh/s miner stresses me out lol when you compare them in that regard!

[Searing]

lucky for you but not so lucky for idiots who bought them recently. once ibelink starts shipping those poor souls be spreading butt cheeks for sure. it's payback time.

Dash hashrate already double ...

Currently 13.30 Th/s

July 5th was 6.20 Th/s

And the baikals and ibelinks are not even out. Get ready people, Thank God i already got my ROI on all of my 8 baikals.

I see the future.......

with massive X11 coin difficulty increase....a massive surge of baikal products to

x13 and x15 coin!!!! (damn, no one else has my soothsayer skills ..proof!!!)

[SplinterZalinsk]

HERE IS THE EMAIL I HAVE RECEIVED FROM OFFICIAL BAIKAL MINER EMAIL AFTER MY SKYPE CONVERSATION WITH THEM. (YES ITS A LEGIT EMAIL AND SKYPE ACCOUNT AS I HAVE BOUGHT WITH THEM SEVERAL MINER WITH SAME SKYPE AND EMAIL, NOTE THAT I WAS ASKING FOR 10 OF THESE GIANTS).

Hi,
 
Further the conversation on Skype.
 
Total cost would be:
Miner+shipping=70000+543=70543usd
 
Ship to:
Aleem Khan
--------------------------
Phone:------------------
 
Bank info for receiving payment please find from attached file.
 
After you done the transfer, kindly provide me the payment voucher and your passport, if paid from company bank account, please provide the copy of your business license.

best regards.
Baikal miner

$7000/unit??? OMG... This is a joke

[HagssFIN]

Now when the Antminer D3 comes out in September, Baikal really has to come down with prices 

[SplinterZalinsk]

Now when the Antminer D3 comes out in September, Baikal really has to come down with prices  

Man... Antminer D3 has 15000MH/s vs. Baikal New Giant 2000MH/s!!! And D3 Costs less than half of Baikal New Giant... WTF
Imagine who just bought the new giant paying that fortune for each one

[dasgardo87]

HERE IS THE EMAIL I HAVE RECEIVED FROM OFFICIAL BAIKAL MINER EMAIL AFTER MY SKYPE CONVERSATION WITH THEM. (YES ITS A LEGIT EMAIL AND SKYPE ACCOUNT AS I HAVE BOUGHT WITH THEM SEVERAL MINER WITH SAME SKYPE AND EMAIL, NOTE THAT I WAS ASKING FOR 10 OF THESE GIANTS).

Hi,
 
Further the conversation on Skype.
 
Total cost would be:
Miner+shipping=70000+543=70543usd
 
Ship to:
Aleem Khan
--------------------------
Phone:------------------
 
Bank info for receiving payment please find from attached file.
 
After you done the transfer, kindly provide me the payment voucher and your passport, if paid from company bank account, please provide the copy of your business license.

best regards.
Baikal miner

$7000/unit??? OMG... This is a joke

Haha with the new bitmain miner it will be 1 Star product 1 star service 

[SplinterZalinsk]

HERE IS THE EMAIL I HAVE RECEIVED FROM OFFICIAL BAIKAL MINER EMAIL AFTER MY SKYPE CONVERSATION WITH THEM. (YES ITS A LEGIT EMAIL AND SKYPE ACCOUNT AS I HAVE BOUGHT WITH THEM SEVERAL MINER WITH SAME SKYPE AND EMAIL, NOTE THAT I WAS ASKING FOR 10 OF THESE GIANTS).

Hi,
 
Further the conversation on Skype.
 
Total cost would be:
Miner+shipping=70000+543=70543usd
 
Ship to:
Aleem Khan
--------------------------
Phone:------------------
 
Bank info for receiving payment please find from attached file.
 
After you done the transfer, kindly provide me the payment voucher and your passport, if paid from company bank account, please provide the copy of your business license.

best regards.
Baikal miner

$7000/unit??? OMG... This is a joke

Haha with the new bitmain miner it will be 1 Star product 1 star service  

Let's see... Baikal New Giant 2GH/s ($7000) vs. Bitmain D3 15GH/s ($2699)

[maleemk]

HERE IS THE EMAIL I HAVE RECEIVED FROM OFFICIAL BAIKAL MINER EMAIL AFTER MY SKYPE CONVERSATION WITH THEM. (YES ITS A LEGIT EMAIL AND SKYPE ACCOUNT AS I HAVE BOUGHT WITH THEM SEVERAL MINER WITH SAME SKYPE AND EMAIL, NOTE THAT I WAS ASKING FOR 10 OF THESE GIANTS).

Hi,
 
Further the conversation on Skype.
 
Total cost would be:
Miner+shipping=70000+543=70543usd
 
Ship to:
Aleem Khan
--------------------------
Phone:------------------
 
Bank info for receiving payment please find from attached file.
 
After you done the transfer, kindly provide me the payment voucher and your passport, if paid from company bank account, please provide the copy of your business license.

best regards.
Baikal miner

$7000/unit??? OMG... This is a joke

Haha with the new bitmain miner it will be 1 Star product 1 star service 

Nope 0 star product with 0 star service.

[SplinterZalinsk]

HERE IS THE EMAIL I HAVE RECEIVED FROM OFFICIAL BAIKAL MINER EMAIL AFTER MY SKYPE CONVERSATION WITH THEM. (YES ITS A LEGIT EMAIL AND SKYPE ACCOUNT AS I HAVE BOUGHT WITH THEM SEVERAL MINER WITH SAME SKYPE AND EMAIL, NOTE THAT I WAS ASKING FOR 10 OF THESE GIANTS).

Hi,
 
Further the conversation on Skype.
 
Total cost would be:
Miner+shipping=70000+543=70543usd
 
Ship to:
Aleem Khan
--------------------------
Phone:------------------
 
Bank info for receiving payment please find from attached file.
 
After you done the transfer, kindly provide me the payment voucher and your passport, if paid from company bank account, please provide the copy of your business license.

best regards.
Baikal miner

$7000/unit??? OMG... This is a joke

Haha with the new bitmain miner it will be 1 Star product 1 star service  

Nope 0 star product with 0 star service.

I'd rather 1000x to deal with Bitmain in any situation... Deal with Baikal can be a real nightmare

[dasgardo87]

HERE IS THE EMAIL I HAVE RECEIVED FROM OFFICIAL BAIKAL MINER EMAIL AFTER MY SKYPE CONVERSATION WITH THEM. (YES ITS A LEGIT EMAIL AND SKYPE ACCOUNT AS I HAVE BOUGHT WITH THEM SEVERAL MINER WITH SAME SKYPE AND EMAIL, NOTE THAT I WAS ASKING FOR 10 OF THESE GIANTS).

Hi,
 
Further the conversation on Skype.
 
Total cost would be:
Miner+shipping=70000+543=70543usd
 
Ship to:
Aleem Khan
--------------------------
Phone:------------------
 
Bank info for receiving payment please find from attached file.
 
After you done the transfer, kindly provide me the payment voucher and your passport, if paid from company bank account, please provide the copy of your business license.

best regards.
Baikal miner

$7000/unit??? OMG... This is a joke

Haha with the new bitmain miner it will be 1 Star product 1 star service  

Nope 0 star product with 0 star service.

I'd rather 1000x to deal with Bitmain in any situation... Deal with Baikal can be a real nightmare

i always think that baikal are too greedy when sell their miner, but now there are more competition on market, and as always more competition more good for consumer

and consumer deserve more fair price, better service and better product 

[Gunna01]

HERE IS THE EMAIL I HAVE RECEIVED FROM OFFICIAL BAIKAL MINER EMAIL AFTER MY SKYPE CONVERSATION WITH THEM. (YES ITS A LEGIT EMAIL AND SKYPE ACCOUNT AS I HAVE BOUGHT WITH THEM SEVERAL MINER WITH SAME SKYPE AND EMAIL, NOTE THAT I WAS ASKING FOR 10 OF THESE GIANTS).

Hi,
 
Further the conversation on Skype.
 
Total cost would be:
Miner+shipping=70000+543=70543usd
 
Ship to:
Aleem Khan
--------------------------
Phone:------------------
 
Bank info for receiving payment please find from attached file.
 
After you done the transfer, kindly provide me the payment voucher and your passport, if paid from company bank account, please provide the copy of your business license.

best regards.
Baikal miner

$7000/unit??? OMG... This is a joke

Haha with the new bitmain miner it will be 1 Star product 1 star service  

Nope 0 star product with 0 star service.

I'd rather 1000x to deal with Bitmain in any situation... Deal with Baikal can be a real nightmare

i always think that baikal are too greedy when sell their miner, but now there are more competition on market, and as always more competition more good for consumer

and consumer deserve more fair price, better service and better product 

If you look at the screenshot for the Baikal it is actually 2 miner boards controlled by one user interface. I think all they have done is add a 150mh(a Baikal mini) chip to an existing board giving them around 1050mh then thrown 2 of those boards into a case, hey presto here is 2000mh/s that will actually get closer to 2100

[shaninium]

HERE IS THE EMAIL I HAVE RECEIVED FROM OFFICIAL BAIKAL MINER EMAIL AFTER MY SKYPE CONVERSATION WITH THEM. (YES ITS A LEGIT EMAIL AND SKYPE ACCOUNT AS I HAVE BOUGHT WITH THEM SEVERAL MINER WITH SAME SKYPE AND EMAIL, NOTE THAT I WAS ASKING FOR 10 OF THESE GIANTS).

Hi,
 
Further the conversation on Skype.
 
Total cost would be:
Miner+shipping=70000+543=70543usd
 
Ship to:
Aleem Khan
--------------------------
Phone:------------------
 
Bank info for receiving payment please find from attached file.
 
After you done the transfer, kindly provide me the payment voucher and your passport, if paid from company bank account, please provide the copy of your business license.

best regards.
Baikal miner

$7000/unit??? OMG... This is a joke

Haha with the new bitmain miner it will be 1 Star product 1 star service  

Let's see... Baikal New Giant 2GH/s ($7000) vs. Bitmain D3 15GH/s ($2699)

No wonder why the new giants never advertised their price online, their advertised prices shouldn't be 7k now, and ibelinks arent selling out.

[kodokbuduk]

HERE IS THE EMAIL I HAVE RECEIVED FROM OFFICIAL BAIKAL MINER EMAIL AFTER MY SKYPE CONVERSATION WITH THEM. (YES ITS A LEGIT EMAIL AND SKYPE ACCOUNT AS I HAVE BOUGHT WITH THEM SEVERAL MINER WITH SAME SKYPE AND EMAIL, NOTE THAT I WAS ASKING FOR 10 OF THESE GIANTS).

Hi,
 
Further the conversation on Skype.
 
Total cost would be:
Miner+shipping=70000+543=70543usd
 
Ship to:
Aleem Khan
--------------------------
Phone:------------------
 
Bank info for receiving payment please find from attached file.
 
After you done the transfer, kindly provide me the payment voucher and your passport, if paid from company bank account, please provide the copy of your business license.

best regards.
Baikal miner

$7000/unit??? OMG... This is a joke

Haha with the new bitmain miner it will be 1 Star product 1 star service  

Let's see... Baikal New Giant 2GH/s ($7000) vs. Bitmain D3 15GH/s ($2699)

No wonder why the new giants never advertised their price online, their advertised prices shouldn't be 7k now, and ibelinks arent selling out.

May be they knew something this is going to be happened ie Antminer D3. Baikal now is offering free shipping LOL...

[allnewbie]

I got my Giantplus yesterday! costly but still fell exciting i missed last cube purcahsed, and it is so many unpredictable thing in sepetmber, so I don't want to wait anymore. just ordered one.

Sepetmber X11 will be a rocket, don't expect earning by X11 at that time, I will now mining dash, then will go for quark or other profitable algorithms, profit good as well. 

[shaninium]

[Searing]

Last I heard the catch is ..you have to order 100 units. (thou that may have been d/c).

[kodokbuduk]

Last I heard the catch is ..you have to order 100 units. (thou that may have been d/c).

Group buy?

[Searing]

Last I heard the catch is ..you have to order 100 units. (thou that may have been d/c).

Group buy?

Not sure if it applies anymore..certainly is not on this Ad I posted above.

I sent them an email. IF like any other ASIC maker I've sent emails too....unlikely to get a reply in less than a week (if at all)

need more info

Important stuff is missing like PRICE and warranty

[shaninium]

Warranty is 6 months

[Yan Kaplan]

I have contacted them about any details. For now, Pre-order is in progress but Buy button is not clickable. Maybe sold out all in a short period.

[Longsnowsm]

I don't see the price listed on Baikal's site for the Giant+.  Maybe they are embarrassed to post it now, as they should be.  2gh for 7k! LOL  There needs to be a dramatic, massive price reduction if they want to sell Giant+ miners.

[ddd12md]

I don't see the price listed on Baikal's site for the Giant+.  Maybe they are embarrassed to post it now, as they should be.  2gh for 7k! LOL  There needs to be a dramatic, massive price reduction if they want to sell Giant+ miners.

Price is 4k for 2 GH)

[knightbit]

hi guys

Indeed Baikal is a scam when i order my 2nd miner on 27 aug true skype baikalminer as per instruction on their website.the whole chat history from me  is being deleted by them and they send me an email saying that the skype baikalminer is not theirs. and my order is invalid.how can they say that?

 1 am really confuse and clearly this company is not professional and are trying to scam miners that buy direct from them

i wrote an email to support but not being entertain.

if you guys have same similar issue please comment and reply

[Searing]

hi guys

Indeed Baikal is a scam when i order my 2nd miner on 27 aug true skype baikalminer as per instruction on their website.the whole chat history from me  is being deleted by them and they send me an email saying that the skype baikalminer is not theirs. and my order is invalid.how can they say that?

 1 am really confuse and clearly this company is not professional and are trying to scam miners that buy direct from them

i wrote an email to support but not being entertain.

if you guys have same similar issue please comment and reply

you sure you have the right skype?

there are probaly 10 fake skype accounts to the one true baikal skype account

as to if it is just an invalid order

yeah that happened to me on 300 mh baikal cube orders...all was well on 3 emails and talking to skype for 3 days

then they said oops.they messed up and made the order invalid

of course I had not paid anything yet..but pissed me off in that I had 3 emails and 2 skype msgs copied ..that all was well as I added units

they just don't give a damn...and imho they are probably out of consumer sales...anything they make from now on they will keep and mine imho

[ddd12md]

hi guys

Indeed Baikal is a scam when i order my 2nd miner on 27 aug true skype baikalminer as per instruction on their website.the whole chat history from me  is being deleted by them and they send me an email saying that the skype baikalminer is not theirs. and my order is invalid.how can they say that?

 1 am really confuse and clearly this company is not professional and are trying to scam miners that buy direct from them

i wrote an email to support but not being entertain.

if you guys have same similar issue please comment and reply

What was the price they offered you for Baikal 2000 MH/s? Last time I've asked them price was 3000$ for one unit or 2700 if order 5 and more

[lunswor]

Those Baikal looks interesting, i was thinking about gettin a D3 but i don't think they do X13 and other algos like this ASIC.

[allnewbie]

I got this message from baikal "I am sorry to inform you there is no many miner left, we are checking stock now. please be more patience'.
miner sold out?

[TracerX]

I got this message from baikal "I am sorry to inform you there is no many miner left, we are checking stock now. please be more patience'.
miner sold out?

Sounds like it.  It may be months before they have more in stock.

[teknomen]

what do you suggest buy x11 miners or scrypt miners for the next year and a stable profit i have free electricity

[Lumining]

what do you suggest buy x11 miners or scrypt miners for the next year and a stable profit i have free electricity

When you can get your hands one some D3 miners, you can use these for X11. There's no other machine on the market that has the same price to hashrate ratio than the Antminer D3.
Unfortunately, it can only mine X11 and therefore, you're pretty limited.
On the other handside, you could buy a Baikalminer which support multiple algorithms. It supports X11, X13, X14, X15, Quark and Qubit, so you have a lot more choices where you can switch to in case the difficulty for one algorithm rises exponentially.
You can mine Quark and Qubit and receive about 5$ a day, or you can mine OnionCoin on X13. Someone reported that they mined 4 Onions in 24h and the coin was worth about 5$ some days ago.

I would only buy Antminer L3+ for mining scrypt, but only if you can get your hands on some cheap ones. I see many offers over 2000$ which are alittle unrealistic I think. Litecoin may rise a lot in the future, but a mining revenue of about 700$ per month is not enough to spend more than 2000$ I think.
Maybe it's worth waiting for the Antminer L4, but currently we can only dream about this one, it has not been released yet.

To answer your question in some short words: As long as your electricity is free, mine with everything you can get your hands on! Everything except old Pc's with one GPU

[teknomen]

what do you suggest buy x11 miners or scrypt miners for the next year and a stable profit i have free electricity

When you can get your hands one some D3 miners, you can use these for X11. There's no other machine on the market that has the same price to hashrate ratio than the Antminer D3.
Unfortunately, it can only mine X11 and therefore, you're pretty limited.
On the other handside, you could buy a Baikalminer which support multiple algorithms. It supports X11, X13, X14, X15, Quark and Qubit, so you have a lot more choices where you can switch to in case the difficulty for one algorithm rises exponentially.
You can mine Quark and Qubit and receive about 5$ a day, or you can mine OnionCoin on X13. Someone reported that they mined 4 Onions in 24h and the coin was worth about 5$ some days ago.

I would only buy Antminer L3+ for mining scrypt, but only if you can get your hands on some cheap ones. I see many offers over 2000$ which are alittle unrealistic I think. Litecoin may rise a lot in the future, but a mining revenue of about 700$ per month is not enough to spend more than 2000$ I think.
Maybe it's worth waiting for the Antminer L4, but currently we can only dream about this one, it has not been released yet.

To answer your question in some short words: As long as your electricity is free, mine with everything you can get your hands on! Everything except old Pc's with one GPU

Thank you for your help i have about 8000usd and i want to invest in mining i'm new to mining world i like the baikal Giant+ 900M with 2000 mh/s but it worth 4000usd it's expensive than it's real price but i can't get one under that price now
with this new equipment coming to the market ( INNOSILICON A5 and D3 ) i afraid from difficulty increasing
in the other hand i want to buy the the A4 Dominator 280 Mh/s with 3000 usd i can't get at this time the L3+ it's sold out in 20 min
what do you think
sry for my bad english

[TunerDude007]

If you have free power then get your hands on as many D3's and L3+'s as possible. eastshore.xyz has some available. I have heard good things about them. And build yourself a couple gpu rigs while your at it.

[tunth]

Can anyone who has an working baikal cube 300mhs, send me a foto of the mainbord?

[Searing]

Can anyone who has an working baikal cube 300mhs, send me a foto of the mainbord?

closest I can find...only this

[HagssFIN]

The second picture is not Baikal.

[tunth]

I have burned an ic i think, i need to know what type it is.
the damaged ic: or what it is called 
photo 1
Bigger foto:
photo 2

I hope the links to the photos work.

[Tai_Pan]

Here you go guys, a nice read for you all:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2180045.0

[qinotorez]

are they still producing new ones?

[TarunDis]

Hi, are there any news from BAIKAL on the launch of new batch of CUBE / Giant or new miners?


I was looking for something familiar for a different use case but the link isn't working. I did Google it and i think the new urls is https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/distill-web-monitor-ff/ . Correct me If i am wrong.

er nope..an they likely will NOT be an annoucement...or there never has been on their web site before a sale I've ever seen....they just put them up for sale....like a crypto machine 'snipe hunt' ..catch all catch can....

fun folk....they like to just toss them out there on an unworkable web site and even if you are told all is well on your order

the chances are 50/50 you will get it. They also like to say on one auction you had 2 hrs to pay from their email...that was fun being

in USA an all and asleep at 3am.....poof and its gone



So anyway out of 3 tries to get equip when offered....was told I had equip all 3 times....only got it 1 time..the rest I got follow up
message they were mistaken or the good old 3am window was missed

fun times, baikal has a unique way of selling stuff......

I've got something like this setup so when their quad cube goes back in stock even at 3 am I can spring into action to purchase lol. I Just hope they don't create a new webpage for when a new batch is released, and they just update the old one to say it's in stock. Do you know for sure what they do?

https://addons.mozilla.org/en-us/firefox/addon/alertbox/

[igotek]

no new miner devices produced by Baikal