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June 20, 2011, 07:00:33 PM
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You certainly are a good representative of the typical trendy socialist /.'r  Why?


I never respond to name calling.

Your "facts" are totally wrong, especially about my TV habits (I don't even own a TV!)

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June 20, 2011, 10:23:30 PM
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You certainly are a good representative of the typical trendy socialist /.'r  Why?


I never respond to name calling.

Your "facts" are totally wrong, especially about my TV habits (I don't even own a TV!)

Nevermind your lack of a TV (I've never owned one either).

Calling Ayn Rand, who is a respected figure among cyber-libertarians, a "Goddess of Libertarianism" is not going to engender a constructive conversation.

You don't get to decide what years Greenspan was in office as Fed Chairman.  That is a fact you have no jurisdiction over.

Greenspan was not in office in the year 2008.  There's no way he could have "nationalized the banks" that year.

Understood?

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June 20, 2011, 10:31:17 PM
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Yeah most comments on / . are hates. Seems to be common among most people who comment.
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June 20, 2011, 10:34:31 PM
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Yeah most comments on / . are hates. Seems to be common among most people who comment.

True in this forum as in every other  Cry

We live in an age of "anti-heroes"  Cry

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June 20, 2011, 10:37:47 PM
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Maybe some science guy (not payed by the government ;-)) should study the pros and cons of bitcoin  and show the results in public!



I thought the basis for Bitcoin was in fact a paper from a "science guy".
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June 20, 2011, 10:53:01 PM
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If anyone really has something to say other than a personal attack/rant I will be happy to respond!

Until then i consider the so called "libertarians" to be about as rational and the "National Socialists" of 70 years ago.

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June 20, 2011, 11:29:36 PM
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They also hate the bitcoin crowd in hacker news...

Look what some dude made Cheesy

http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=2613271

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June 20, 2011, 11:45:59 PM
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No wireless. Less space than a Nomad. Lame.
Rob Malda, founder of technology website Slashdot
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June 21, 2011, 01:08:58 AM
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I'm a mostly reformed /.er, and I started there before the 2000 recession. So FWIW...

Imagine all those asshole 13 year olds playing Modern Warfare online, trash-talking over the mike.

Now imagine they're in their 30's or 40's and haven't changed, other than maybe not being in Mom's basement anymore.

That's 60% of the /. crowd.

But the rest of them are surprisingly good peeps!
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June 21, 2011, 04:04:14 AM
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But the rest of them are surprisingly good peeps!

BOTH of them LMAO!  Grin

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June 21, 2011, 05:48:37 AM
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But the rest of them are surprisingly good peeps!

BOTH of them LMAO!  Grin
Thanks Karen, Grin

I want to add that I really have found thousands of cool things and people through /., and they are still a 'goto' news resource for me. But I don't often have the patience to wade into their comments anymore. That being said, one can often find real gems there if you do.

Also, sometimes it's fun to bait the trolls...
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June 21, 2011, 11:21:14 AM
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I want to add that I really have found thousands of cool things and people through /., and they are still a 'goto' news resource for me. But I don't often have the patience to wade into their comments anymore. That being said, one can often find real gems there if you do.

Also, sometimes it's fun to bait the trolls...

As have I on both items.

When you have a bunch of Mod points then reading the trolls can be fun.  Grin

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June 26, 2011, 05:18:48 PM
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If anyone really has something to say other than a personal attack/rant I will be happy to respond!
Pointing out that Greenspan left office years before you claim he "nationalized the banks" is not a personal attack.

Until then i consider the so called "libertarians" to be about as rational and the "National Socialists"  of 70 years ago.

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Godwin's Law       
A term that originated on Usenet, Godwin's Law states that as an online argument grows longer and more heated, it becomes increasingly likely that somebody will bring up Adolf Hitler or the Nazis. When such an event occurs, the person guilty of invoking Godwin's Law has effectively forfeited the argument.


Until then i consider the so called "libertarians" to be about as rational and the "National Socialists"  of 70 years ago.

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Godwin's Rule of Nazi Analogies, sometimes also known as Godwin's Law, is a theory put forward by Mike Godwin in 1990. Godwin noticed that long-threaded discussions on the Internet tended to turn into mud slinging competitions by the end. The longer a thread got, the more likely it was that a Nazi comparison would be dragged into the discussion. Godwin's Rule states that: “As an online discussion grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving Nazis or Hitler approaches one.”

There are several implications to Godwin's Rule. Many online discussions involve intense personal beliefs and values, which sometimes clash quite dramatically. As the discussion continues, it tends to become less rational, especially after most of the valid arguments from both sides have been presented. On a hot button issue with no “right” answer, opponents may start to exchange insults because they become angry and frustrated.

Comparing someone, or an action, with the Nazis is a serious charge. The German Nationalsozialismus party dominated Germany from the 1920s through the 1940s. In 1921, Adolf Hitler was elected leader of the Nazi Party. Throughout most of the world, Hitler and the Nazis are equated with ultimate evil, due to their actions in the Second World War, which included the roundup of millions of Jewish people, homosexuals, gypsies, and other “undesirables” in the name of ethnic purity. The Nazis are associated with dictatorship, totalitarianism, and rigid order.

There are situations in which bringing up the Nazi party or Hitler is entirely legitimate. Any discussion of modern German history, for example, should include a discussion of the Nazis. Conversations about dictatorships and genocide are also situations in which a Nazi analogy is valid. However, when Nazis are brought up because a conversation is not going well, it suggests that the other side may have won the argument. Furthermore, it weakens valid comparisons.

Often, an example of Godwin's Rule accompanies hyperbole. The idea is to invalidate the opposition by comparing it to the Nazi Party. However, this can backfire, and usually does. Unless the comparison is valid, the person who brought up Nazis or Hitler is considered to be the loser. In a rational discussion or debate on or off the Internet, resorting to a Nazi comparison is generally a strong indicator that you have run out of material to discuss or support your claims.

Many Internet communities have taken Godwin's Rule to mean that when Nazis enter a conversation, the discussion is over. In some cases, someone may invoke Godwin's Rule to end a conversation before it gets worse. However, sometimes a discussion should continue, even though Godwin's Rule has been illustrated by a Nazi reference. Individual members of the discussion decide whether or not a conversation will be carried or ended with an instance of Godwin's Rule.


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Fungibility provides privacy as a side effect.  Adam Back 2014
"Monero" : { Private - Auditable - 100% Fungible - Flexible Blocksize - Wild & Free® - Intro - Wallets - Podcats - Roadmap - Dice - Blackjack - Github - Android }


Bitcoin is intentionally designed to be ungovernable and governance-free.  luke-jr 2016
Blocks must necessarily be full for the Bitcoin network to be able to pay for its own security.  davout 2015
Blocksize is an intentionally limited resource, like the 21e6 BTC limit.  Changing it degrades the surrounding economics, creating negative incentives.  Jeff Garzik 2013


"I believed @Dashpay instamine was a bug & not a feature but then read: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=421615.msg13017231#msg13017231
I'm not against people making money, but can't support questionable origins."
https://twitter.com/Tone_LLT/status/717822927908024320


The raison d'être of bitcoin is trustlessness. - Eric Lombrozo 2015
It is an Engineering Requirement that Bitcoin be “Above the Law”  Paul Sztorc 2015
Resiliency, not efficiency, is the paramount goal of decentralized, non-state sanctioned currency -Jon Matonis 2015

Bitcoin is intentionally designed to be ungovernable and governance-free.  luke-jr 2016

Technology tends to move in the direction of making surveillance easier, and the ability of computers to track us doubles every eighteen months. - Phil Zimmerman 2013

The only way to make software secure, reliable, and fast is to make it small. Fight Features. - Andy Tanenbaum 2004

"Hard forks cannot be co
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June 28, 2011, 01:45:46 AM
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Calling Ayn Rand, who is a respected figure among cyber-libertarians
Too bad she was pretty short on reciprocity with libertarians in general.   Grin

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June 28, 2011, 01:46:40 AM
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Who cares reddit loves them and that's all that matters.
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June 28, 2011, 01:58:40 AM
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Because they were in the position to be an early adopter and missed out on it. They can relieve some of their anxiety by shitting on it now.
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June 28, 2011, 03:49:40 AM
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i also had the opportunity to be an early adopter as i got in touch with bitcoin in it's early start, just didn't gave it the importance i should, and now i'm a full supporter of Bitcoin, not a hater...

If i have to be angry with someone it's with myself, not with Bitcoin or it's users/early adopters.

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