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The BTC ATMs (BTMs) are convenient once you have gone through the AML/KYC process. But the fees are high (the ones in the USA I have used vary between 12% - 18% fee buying them, I have not sold via BTM).
But, in my city, it is a HASSLE setting up meetings via localbitcoins.con (making an appointment OK with both, driving over & parking, paying whatever fee the SELLER asks for, etc.).
I used Circle for a while before they made using it a pain in the ass, but their fee was very low (a little over 1%).
bitcoin.com offers a service, the total fee is about 7.5% and has worked OK.
HIGH FEES are the problem for me, when in the USA. But remember, the owners of the machines have to collect the money (each day?) as well as maintain them, pay rent to the store owners, etc.
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May 18, 2017, 11:08:57 PM |
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Obviously it is more popular specially when you are a bitcoin holder or a bitcoin users you would probably pick bitcoin more than cash but still atm cash machines is still what more people use in this days bitcoin cash machine is becoming popular but still need more partnerships in many companies you cant even go shopping with bitcoin hopefully it will be in the future.
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May 18, 2017, 11:13:46 PM |
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Obviously it is more popular specially when you are a bitcoin holder or a bitcoin users you would probably pick bitcoin more than cash but still atm cash machines is still what more people use in this days bitcoin cash machine is becoming popular but still need more partnerships in many companies you cant even go shopping with bitcoin hopefully it will be in the future.
Hoping for it to happen in our country though there are more banks that are used in cashing out bitcoin but there are few bitcoin atm in our country it can only spot in one or two city which is too far ,so I still used banks .
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May 18, 2017, 11:37:16 PM |
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The BTC ATMs (BTMs) are convenient once you have gone through the AML/KYC process. But the fees are high (the ones in the USA I have used vary between 12% - 18% fee buying them, I have not sold via BTM).
But, in my city, it is a HASSLE setting up meetings via localbitcoins.con (making an appointment OK with both, driving over & parking, paying whatever fee the SELLER asks for, etc.).
I used Circle for a while before they made using it a pain in the ass, but their fee was very low (a little over 1%).
bitcoin.com offers a service, the total fee is about 7.5% and has worked OK.
HIGH FEES are the problem for me, when in the USA. But remember, the owners of the machines have to collect the money (each day?) as well as maintain them, pay rent to the store owners, etc.
On localbitocins.com you dont have to meet face to face. I never have. Got their bank, make a cash deposit, send them the receipt and they release the BTC. Easy as going to the convenience stoe.
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May 18, 2017, 11:46:21 PM |
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I have not seen any bitcoin atms in my area or in my travels. I don't hear anyone talk about them.
The good thing is that I have gotten some of my family and friends into Bitcoin. After awhile I am sure they will get others in too.
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poplolnman
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May 19, 2017, 06:12:19 AM |
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yeah it's growing , but on the same place and same country. i can't see there's a significant changes on how a new country installed their first bitcoin ATM or something. everything looks have a slower growth . people really not yet love to accept a new thing in their lives as a part of better changes for the future. You will not see the significant changes, Too many people have realized about a high fee through using the ATM machine. That makes the spread of the machines being so low in my mind. It's not a new thing but it must get determined by a lot of the factors. Don't judge them like they are the old person with lack of interest in the new technology. I don't want to pay some dollar just to make a transaction through ATM. i mean when there's a new place/a new country start build the ATM or when on a city build 2 or more ATM at once it was a significant changes. the growth could be accelerated , and the high fee could be adjusted to more reasonable. of course when you move from fiat ATM to bitcoin ATM , isn't it a new thing? especially for a newcomer right?
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megynacuna
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May 19, 2017, 08:33:55 AM |
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Well we don't hear about them that much but at least I know of them and have sighted one in Dubai, it will serve our good if it's on the rise in our cities but I doubt if it's getting any popular because we don't get to hear about them outside this forum.
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May 19, 2017, 10:16:32 AM |
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The BTC ATMs (BTMs) are convenient once you have gone through the AML/KYC process. But the fees are high (the ones in the USA I have used vary between 12% - 18% fee buying them, I have not sold via BTM).
But, in my city, it is a HASSLE setting up meetings via localbitcoins.con (making an appointment OK with both, driving over & parking, paying whatever fee the SELLER asks for, etc.).
I used Circle for a while before they made using it a pain in the ass, but their fee was very low (a little over 1%).
bitcoin.com offers a service, the total fee is about 7.5% and has worked OK.
HIGH FEES are the problem for me, when in the USA. But remember, the owners of the machines have to collect the money (each day?) as well as maintain them, pay rent to the store owners, etc.
Ouch in Canada most of them are at 8% but 12-18% now that is milking the American market, if you were near the border it might be tempting to cross and use Canadian machines. And localbitcoins I agree is a hit and miss it depends on who your dealing with and their rates. By the looks of it the consolidation is occurring in the US at those high rates though so lack of competition may be a factor or more regulation costs to operate in your state etc. https://coinatmradar.com/blog/bitcoin-atm-market-concentration/
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May 19, 2017, 02:17:07 PM |
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I don't really tried it but they say that there is a BTC ATM in the Philippines, But since our local wallet already have some banks that we could use to withdraw our bitcoin into cash.
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OROBTC
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May 20, 2017, 03:02:44 AM |
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The BTC ATMs (BTMs) are convenient once you have gone through the AML/KYC process. But the fees are high (the ones in the USA I have used vary between 12% - 18% fee buying them, I have not sold via BTM).
But, in my city, it is a HASSLE setting up meetings via localbitcoins.con (making an appointment OK with both, driving over & parking, paying whatever fee the SELLER asks for, etc.).
I used Circle for a while before they made using it a pain in the ass, but their fee was very low (a little over 1%).
bitcoin.com offers a service, the total fee is about 7.5% and has worked OK.
HIGH FEES are the problem for me, when in the USA. But remember, the owners of the machines have to collect the money (each day?) as well as maintain them, pay rent to the store owners, etc.
Ouch in Canada most of them are at 8% but 12-18% now that is milking the American market, if you were near the border it might be tempting to cross and use Canadian machines. And localbitcoins I agree is a hit and miss it depends on who your dealing with and their rates. By the looks of it the consolidation is occurring in the US at those high rates though so lack of competition may be a factor or more regulation costs to operate in your state etc. https://coinatmradar.com/blog/bitcoin-atm-market-concentration/THAT is an excellent article (highlighted) on BTC ATM ("BTM") concentration. In my city, there is a local company with perhaps the largest share of installed machines, but Athena has entered the market. So far I have NOT noticed any drop in BTM fees (I pay around 14%, ouch! But it's convenient). If the fees DO NOT come down, that would tend to reinforce the notion I have read that BTMs are expensive to operate (I could certainly believe that). I am traveling so do not recall the brand of the BTMs. But the machines are working better now, I guess that they have worked out the kinks.
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June 23, 2017, 11:55:37 AM |
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Ofc, because BTC becomes more and more popular)!
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We are traveling now, and I hope to drop by a BTM in they city where we just arrived. Finally I will have some time to so something like this. I hope that they do not require local ID (I am American). I will not spend much...
Or perhaps work out a deal with a helpful local for $5, LOL.
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mrcash02
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June 23, 2017, 06:25:29 PM |
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Yes, it's always becoming more popular, but not so fast, the popularity of these machines grow very slowly yet.
The countries with most Bitcoin users are the third world countries where this kind of machines are hardly found. For most Bitcoin enthusiasts it's still worthless on their daily life.
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rido
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August 16, 2017, 03:45:35 AM |
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It should not be asked again if there is a bitcoin atm machine will be very good let alone exist in all countries will be very profitable for bitcoin players so wait let alone design from now on.
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August 16, 2017, 03:49:24 AM |
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I actually just found a bitcoin atm at our local mall. Drove me to google research and here I am today. Bitcoin to the moon!
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August 16, 2017, 03:58:11 AM |
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although there is only few ATM machine that we can found, I am sure in future we can see many places in big country will have more bitcoin ATM but we need to be patience first. I think it will become more popular when many people is joining into bitcoin and I am sure, in future people needs bitcoin ATM too like ATM cash money. it will make us easy to make transaction if we want to buy or sell bitcoin if we can found ATM machine in everywhere.
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August 16, 2017, 04:05:11 AM |
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I hear the news of ATM in my country growing every year. Bitcoin ATM machines are becoming popular in my country. Easy transactions and low fees. So many people use this atm. For transaction and widraw to fiat money. I think it will become more popular again in the future. If we see the development of bitcoin very rapidly and most people invest in it. I hope the bitcoin atm machine is getting more and more popular
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August 16, 2017, 04:06:57 AM |
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although there is only few ATM machine that we can found, I am sure in future we can see many places in big country will have more bitcoin ATM but we need to be patience first. I think it will become more popular when many people is joining into bitcoin and I am sure, in future people needs bitcoin ATM too like ATM cash money. it will make us easy to make transaction if we want to buy or sell bitcoin if we can found ATM machine in everywhere.
This js the reality that in the starting when we got the system of tue banking then we were limited to get our money from the same bank from where we got the account but time to time we get the fascility to cash out our money from the atm Booth which is not a small achievement . Here bitcoin is in the starting and it is limited to few people but i am sure like the banking sector it will have the features to withdraw the money from the debit card or ATM card directly . Since already in few countries it is available to use , about 3 yeard ago when i searched about it then I found the topic of this bitcoin atm matchine in a country ( i didn't remembered more now but soon every country will have bitcoin ATM machine )
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August 16, 2017, 04:47:00 AM |
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I know that thay are at almost any corner in Vietnamise cities,vietnamise much more prefer to send money with btc than fiat,than thay go to money machine and cash out.Money machines of one Spanish bank are integrated btc,you can withdraw with euro fee is only 1% same service is available in Romenia and Lithuania
You have no clue what you're talking about. First thing first. It's Romania not Romenia. Second there is no such service anywhere in Spain. The only atm's I've seen around are having some huge fees (5-8%) and they are not linked to any bank. Again, unlike you want to be labeled as a troll. What;s the name of the bank and the service?
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Carlsen
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August 16, 2017, 05:34:06 AM |
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The high fees are the problems for ATMs. I know of one machine in my area, and that got closed because nobody used it. Paying five, sometimes even ten percent more than you would pay if you bought your coins somewhere on the internet, that is something many people drives away. So to me it is at least questionable if the ATM service will be able to survive.
Besides: Bitcoin Cash is a new crypto currency. I do not think machines for them will ever be built.
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