List of bitcoin hostile banks. [edit] New thread see first line.

[Lethn]

This is a good list, it will let us keep a record of who our friends and enemies are in the financial sector, maybe you could also point out the ones that have been friendly to Bitcoin as well.

Edit: Oops didn't read the thread carefully since I'm tired, I see you've already done that

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[Razick]

Capital One                                          ?                        Shut down bitfloor account

Bitfloor has done a piss poor job in handling this, but I still sympathize, shame on you Capitol One.

[Fuzzy]

Updated Scotiabank status.

CANADA (5 banks by law)

Royal Bank of Canada - Closed CaVirtex and "Canadian Bitcoins" trading accounts.

Toronto-Dominion Bank - Closed "CADBitcoin" trading account

Bank of Nova Scotia - Closed "CaVirtex" cash account

Bank of Montreal - Working with CaVirtex

Canadian Imperial Bank of Commerce - No information

[Isokivi]

Updated Scotiabank status.

CANADA (5 banks by law)

Royal Bank of Canada - Closed CaVirtex and "Canadian Bitcoins" trading accounts.

Toronto-Dominion Bank - Closed "CADBitcoin" trading account

Bank of Nova Scotia - Closed "CaVirtex" cash account

Bank of Montreal - Working with CaVirtex

Canadian Imperial Bank of Commerce - No information

Thank you, added to the Op.

[medicine]

If you are going to make a list of friendly banks I would like some evidence that they are actually supporting btc in some way to be on that list or else they should be labelled "Neutral"

I am particularly interested in the Bank of Montreal because I am Canadian and also have an account with CaVirtex.

Simply "working with CaVirtex" isn't a reason to consider them "friendly" to btc. 

I think all banks should be considered "Neutral" to btc until you can provide evidence that they have actually taken some action or made some form of announcement that they are not against btc.

Did the BMO actually state they are working with CaVirtex?  If not, they may be planning to shut down their bank account any day now.

Anyone have any evidence they aren't planning on shutting down CaVirtex's accounts?

[Lethos]

Any recommended banks in the UK, or just the odd one to avoid?

[AmunRa]

Updated Scotiabank status.

CANADA (5 banks by law)

Royal Bank of Canada - Closed CaVirtex and "Canadian Bitcoins" trading accounts.

Toronto-Dominion Bank - Closed "CADBitcoin" trading account

Bank of Nova Scotia - Closed "CaVirtex" cash account

Bank of Montreal - Working with CaVirtex

Canadian Imperial Bank of Commerce - No information

Thank you, added to the Op.

Yeah ..Scotiabank closed my account too..I was using it to trade BTC ...they are going bananas here in Canada..lol..the Scotiabank manager referred to bitcoin as  "trading bit money " lol ..anyway ...I believe they are concerned that the new kid on the block might steal their cake.

[ManBearPig]

I'll pay off my BarclayCard balance, close the account and tell them why.

They of course won't give a shit about one customer but I'll do my bit.

[jolonnar]

I will close my TD account this week citing their unwarranted hostility towards Bitcoin as the reason.

just empty the account and leave it. Assholes at TD try to charge you 60$ to close account.

Just a note--I did this with a TD account a couple of years back (obnoxious service) and they helpfully overdrafted the account with account fees, then charged me an overdraft fee, then shut down the account and started sending me collections notices on the "money owed"...

[Fuzzy]

I am particularly interested in the Bank of Montreal because I am Canadian and also have an account with CaVirtex.

Simply "working with CaVirtex" isn't a reason to consider them "friendly" to btc.  

I think all banks should be considered "Neutral" to btc until you can provide evidence that they have actually taken some action or made some form of announcement that they are not against btc.

Point taken. Green would be friendly, Blue is "Tolerant", Black for no data, and Red for Hostile.


It's also questionable if staying in a country where industry is hostile towards systems that are a net good for society is the best option.

[solex]

Does PayPal get honorary mention in the hostile "bank*" list for effectively declaring war on Bitcoin?

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=202431.msg2114217#msg2114217

* Assuming Paypal is bank-like enough with its user currency accounts and payment processing service.

[Herodes]

Why not list e-wallet companies like moneybookers and paypal, and what about other payment processors. These companies also interface between fiat to btc.

[Isokivi]

Does PayPal get honorary mention in the hostile "bank*" list for effectively declaring war on Bitcoin?

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=202431.msg2114217#msg2114217

* Assuming Paypal is bank-like enough with its user currency accounts and payment processing service.

Thank you, Paypal has been added to the list.

[Isokivi]

Why not list e-wallet companies like moneybookers and paypal, and what about other payment processors. These companies also interface between fiat to btc.

Both belong on the list, could someone please link me some info on moneybookers to post as proof.

[Herodes]

Why not list e-wallet companies like moneybookers and paypal, and what about other payment processors. These companies also interface between fiat to btc.

Both belong on the list, could someone please link me some info on moneybookers to post as proof.

https://www.moneybookers.com/app/help.pl?s=terms

11. Prohibited Transactions
11.1. It is strictly forbidden to send or receive payments as consideration for the sale or supply of:

Third party processing or payment aggregation products or services

[Isokivi]

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[halfawake]

I see Capital One listed here and I'm dismayed by that although not at all surprised given what I know about them as a company.  The reason for that is that I use them as an online savings account - not by choice, I have what was an ING Direct Savings account, but Capital One bought them out.  I was really hoping that GE would buy them out instead of Capital One because I like them better as a company and they were bidding on it when it was up for sale, but no such luck.

However, I am reluctant to change savings accounts because they have a feature that is extremely useful to me.  I bank Online only now and this Savings accounts lets me deposit checks simply by signing them and taking pictures and uploading the pictures.  It's extremely convenient.  That's really my only reason for wanting to stick with them as a Savings account; if anyone knows of another online Savings Account that has this feature, please let me know and I would love to switch.  I tried Barclays but their UI is terrible, and even before discovering that they were hostile to Bitcoin, I didn't like them because of they played a part in the LIBOR scandal.

One thing I would REALLY like to know is which bank the company Coinbase uses.  Even if they're somehow handling the bitcoin -> USD currency conversion all on their own, surely they have a business bank account somewhere and just because of the nature of their business, I'd say that bank is likely supportive of Bitcoin.

Edited to add: Capital One is a McLean, VA based company, so you could put United States down as far as where they're based.

[infested999]

anyone can verify this by contacting the bank about opening an account for a bitcoin related buisness, perhaps someone fluent in german could do this ?

I will translate anything you want to German if anyone wants to do this.

[Schrankwand]

anyone can verify this by contacting the bank about opening an account for a bitcoin related buisness, perhaps someone fluent in german could do this ?

I will translate anything you want to German if anyone wants to do this.

Which bank? We could possibly do this too.

[Isokivi]

anyone can verify this by contacting the bank about opening an account for a bitcoin related buisness, perhaps someone fluent in german could do this ?

I will translate anything you want to German if anyone wants to do this.

Which bank? We could possibly do this too.

"Sofort Bank                                      Germany                  Proof was given to me in a private message I will not publish, unless it's sender gives me the go ahead, my source tells me anyone can verify                                                                                                                       this by contacting the bank about opening an account for a bitcoin related buisness, perhaps someone fluent in german could do this ?"

I'd appreciate a verification on that.