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May 03, 2017, 08:05:29 PM
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Russian President Vladimir Putin said that Russia cancels almost all economic sanctions imposed against Turkey. He said this after talks with Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan, reports BBC. According to Putin, "we can say that these restrictions are already removed" It seems that NATO is -1.

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May 04, 2017, 05:07:25 AM
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This is a bad move. Supporting a dictator such as Erdogan can bring no positives, especially at a time when he is trying to convert Turkey in to an Islamic Caliphate. Turkey has been a major rival of Russia for the past 700 years. And the situation is not going to change during the next 700 years as well.

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May 04, 2017, 01:50:33 PM
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This is a bad move. Supporting a dictator such as Erdogan can bring no positives, especially at a time when he is trying to convert Turkey in to an Islamic Caliphate. Turkey has been a major rival of Russia for the past 700 years. And the situation is not going to change during the next 700 years as well.
I rarely agree with you,but this is a case where I fully support you. It seems to me that Putin does it because it no support and he is ready to cooperate with anyone who will give him a hand. This may eventually have negative consequences on Russia, but now Putin is not worried.
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May 05, 2017, 06:14:21 PM
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This is a bad move. Supporting a dictator such as Erdogan can bring no positives, especially at a time when he is trying to convert Turkey in to an Islamic Caliphate. Turkey has been a major rival of Russia for the past 700 years. And the situation is not going to change during the next 700 years as well.

Quite ironic, no? But then again, autocrats tend to support each other provided their spheres of influence don't overlap. Russia and Turkey are no longer empires so they probably realized they have plenty to gain by cooperating.  There really are no permanent friends or enemies. I wonder what Russia is getting in return for this favor done to Turkey.

Better access to it's strategic zones perhaps? Probably one of the major reasons Turkey was kept in NATO was because of its location. Every time they need access to Afghanistan or Syria, they use Turkish airstrips.


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May 05, 2017, 06:31:15 PM
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This is a bad move. Supporting a dictator such as Erdogan can bring no positives, especially at a time when he is trying to convert Turkey in to an Islamic Caliphate. Turkey has been a major rival of Russia for the past 700 years. And the situation is not going to change during the next 700 years as well.

There is more at play here, than western medias let on.

First, Turkey is 99% muslim country and has been for generations, since multiconfessional, multietnic empire that preceded it was torn apart by powers, that beat it back in a Great war. So rather than caliphate, Turkey is starting to reflect values of its people again after long period of time, when it was ruled by westernized globalists.

Gülenist coup, that was crashed after mere three days. What does that tell you? Gülen is pretty much Turkeys main proponent of Muslim brotherhood. HE is the islamist in this case, amusingly residing and directing his operations from behind safety of United States, that he got many years ago. The fact, that coup was done with so quickly despite tacit support of United States tells us two things. Secular military as whole refused to support islamists against elected government of Erdogan, despite the fact, that relationship between Sultan and military has been bad before. Second, Turkey have been warned from outside and prepared itself for islamist coup. Interestingly, soon after Russians and Turks, who until then were on a brink of war quickly resolved their differences and turned their eyes west...

That brings us to your last point. Yes, Russians and Turks and Iranians and Chinese have all been rivals. Fighting each other for the territory and power for centuries. What makes life long enemies amend their past and join forces?

Common threat.

Unlike globalists - coutries mentioned above do not have luxury of endless money printing. They have their own trump cards, however. Unlike western civilization, they havent left behind values that formed their culture. It is still alive. In a conflict they can rely on a God, on legacy of their ancestors, on patriotic frenzy and on culture, that promotes large families.

Euroasia is turning into natural obstacle to New World Order and Turkey is now joining its ranks.



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May 05, 2017, 06:41:39 PM
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This is a bad move. Supporting a dictator such as Erdogan can bring no positives, especially at a time when he is trying to convert Turkey in to an Islamic Caliphate. Turkey has been a major rival of Russia for the past 700 years. And the situation is not going to change during the next 700 years as well.

Quite ironic, no? But then again, autocrats tend to support each other provided their spheres of influence don't overlap. Russia and Turkey are no longer empires so they probably realized they have plenty to gain by cooperating.  There really are no permanent friends or enemies. I wonder what Russia is getting in return for this favor done to Turkey.

Better access to it's strategic zones perhaps? Probably one of the major reasons Turkey was kept in NATO was because of its location. Every time they need access to Afghanistan or Syria, they use Turkish airstrips.


Turkey is not only airfields, but it is the Bosphorus. Without the Bosphorus, the black sea fleet of Russia is rusty iron. Besides the Russians want to provoke the emergence of Turkey from NATO. The Western world is not yet a prescription to resist Russian expansion.

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May 06, 2017, 05:53:38 AM
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Russian President Vladimir Putin said that Russia cancels almost all economic sanctions imposed against Turkey. He said this after talks with Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan, reports BBC. According to Putin, "we can say that these restrictions are already removed" It seems that NATO is -1.


First we have to understand why Russia put economic sanctions on Turkey.  Turkish jets shot down a Russian bomber that Ankara said had crossed over from Syria, although Russia denied its plane had entered Turkish airspace. This is one of the major reason why Russia-Turkey relationship went sour for years. Although Erdogan has already apologized, but the damaged has been done already. The countries are on opposing sides in the Syrian conflict, with Ankara backing rebels fighting to topple Bashar al-Assad, while Moscow is one of his last remaining allies.

The only thing I can think of why Russia lifts the ban is the Bosphorus Bridge, this one-of-a-kind waterway separates two continents, Europe and Asia.
The safety of the Bosporus means the safety of Russia. The Bosporus is a vitally important energy corridor for Russia; it is a gateway enabling the distribution of Russian and Caspian oil to the world. So it make sense for Russia to cooperate again with Turkey because of this.

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