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June 03, 2017, 12:07:27 AM
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I have a number of rigs.

6 x Sapphire RX480 = 1100W = 1800 hash
6 x 1070 = 1150W = 2700 hash

Just that the 1070 cost more but save a little bit of electricity in the long run

I have another rig 2 x 1070, 3 x 1080ti, 1 x 980ti = 1600W = 3600ish hash

No mods nothing. Everything stock with no overclocks

1070 is better

Hello Ace,

I just bought:
ASUS TUF Z270 Mark 2 LGA1151 DDR4 HDMI DVI M.2 USB 3.1 Z270 ATX Motherboard
Silicon Power SP120GBSS3S55S25AE SP/S55 120GB 2.5" SATA III 6 Gb/s TLC 7mm (0.28") Slim Internal Solid State Drive
Kingston HyperX FURY Black 4GB 2133MHz DDR4 Non-ECC CL14 DIMM Desktop Memory (HX421C14FB/4)
Thermaltake TOUGHPOWER GRAND 80 Plus Plantium 1200W Full Modular Power Supply PS-TPG-1200FPCPUS-P
2 of EVGA GeForce GTX 1080 Ti SC Black Edition GAMING, 11GB GDDR5X, iCX Cooler & LED, Optimized Airflow Design, Interlaced Pin Fin Graphics Card 11G-P4-6393-KR
6-Pack PCIe VER 006 PCI-E 16x to 1x Powered Riser Adapter Card w/ 60cm USB 3.0 Extension Cable & MOLEX to SATA Power Cable - GPU Riser Adapter - Ethereum Mining ETH

Can this power supply hold one more 1080TI and two more 1070? Or are you running with two power supply? Also, I'll be using nicehash is that what are your outputs from? Thanks in advance!
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June 03, 2017, 02:03:57 AM
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Unless the hash rate is ridiculous and the numbers work out (hasn't been the case so far) - I don't like to go too much over $200. The 1080ti is great and has a ridiculous hash rate, but it's also ridiculously expensive and from a ROI standpoint, it doesn't make much sense to me. For some, maybe. That's just my opinion.  

What can you get for <$200 with a good hash rate? The RIO on a 1080TI right now is ~100 days. I'm about to make some purchases and doing research is why I'm asking Smiley.

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The $190 PNY GeForce GTX 1060 3GB Graphics Cards can do 23.5mh ETH and 268 SOL/s ZEC each @ ~60W per card.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1uhSfOpvHks&feature=youtu.be&t=7295

THE ROI on the card for Zcash is less than 2 months currently. Tough to beat if you can get it for less than $200.

https://www.coinwarz.com/calculators/zcash-mining-calculator/?h=265&p=60&pc=0.10&pf=0.00&d=1941897.72385156&r=10.00064000&er=0.09776000&btcer=2586.01160000&hc=0.00
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June 03, 2017, 03:29:56 AM
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Guys i just do not understand, why people are saying, that 1080 TI ist good for mining. Correct me if I  am wrong, but:

1080 TI costs about 800 EUR.
You get a used GTX 1070 from 360 to 400 EUR


1080 TI does 600 sols
we need also 1,5 x 1070 to have 600 sols, because 1 gtx 1070 produces about 400 sols

With this performance, the undeclocked 1080 ti consumes 160 Watt
for the same performance 1,5 1070 about 140 + 70 = 210 Watt

so the difference is 50 Watt an hour, that makes 1200 Watt a day, which is depending on the electricity costs (let's take 0,12 EUR for our example) about 14 cents a day,
which makes in month 5 EUR.

So the for the same performance the price difference is 800 - (400 +200) = 200 EUR
that is about 40 month... just to pay for the price difference...  !?!?


Hi thespycry,
 Here are some numbers to go through.

The price of 1080Ti founders edition is $699.99 & 1070 is $400

1080Ti out of the box does about 690h/s for the power draw of 250w
1070 out of the box does about 400h/s(I don't have one so used your number)

To get 690h/s you need 1.72 1070 GPUs

Now for power

1080 Ti                    = 250 * 24 = 6000w = 6kw
1070                        = 140 * 24 = 3360w = 3.36kw
1070 Adj for 690h/s =  240.8 * 24 = 5779.2 = 5.77kw

ZEC Production

1080 Ti    = 0.0571/day Approx(whattomine data)
1070       = 0.0348/day Approx(whattomine data)
1070 ADj = 0.0571/day Approx(whattomine data)

So in a day with ZEC @ $107/coin it is possible to make

1080 Ti = 6.1097- 0.84(power)      = 5.2697
1070    = 3.7236 - 0.4032(power) = 3.3204
1070 Adj = 6.1097 - 0.6924(power) = 5.4173

To get 1080Ti's level of earning(20 cent more) you will be spending $688 instead of $699.99 for 1080Ti a difference of $11.99

Now this is based on the assumption that 1070 will do 400h/s for 140w if not then I don't think 1070 is that efficient.

Hope this helps, If I made any mistake please let me know.

Regards,
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How are you able to get 690h/s out of a GTX 1070!? I'm seeing here and elsewhere ~400h/s average.
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June 03, 2017, 03:53:17 AM
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The $190 PNY GeForce GTX 1060 3GB Graphics Cards can do 23.5mh ETH and 268 SOL/s ZEC each @ ~60W per card.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1uhSfOpvHks&feature=youtu.be&t=7295

THE ROI on the card for Zcash is less than 2 months currently. Tough to beat if you can get it for less than $200.

https://www.coinwarz.com/calculators/zcash-mining-calculator/?h=265&p=60&pc=0.10&pf=0.00&d=1941897.72385156&r=10.00064000&er=0.09776000&btcer=2586.01160000&hc=0.00

Thanks! Unfortunately I cannot find that card for under $225. Does it have to be that same model in the YouTube video? I can get 4x 1070s at 85 day ROI.

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June 03, 2017, 08:39:44 AM
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To get 690h/s you need 1.72 1070 GPUs

Now for power

1080 Ti                    = 250 * 24 = 6000w = 6kw
1070                        = 140 * 24 = 3360w = 3.36kw
1070 Adj for 690h/s =  240.8 * 24 = 5779.2 = 5.77kw

ZEC Production

1080 Ti    = 0.0571/day Approx(whattomine data)
1070       = 0.0348/day Approx(whattomine data)
1070 ADj = 0.0571/day Approx(whattomine data)

So in a day with ZEC @ $107/coin it is possible to make

1080 Ti = 6.1097- 0.84(power)      = 5.2697
1070    = 3.7236 - 0.4032(power) = 3.3204
1070 Adj = 6.1097 - 0.6924(power) = 5.4173

To get 1080Ti's level of earning(20 cent more) you will be spending $688 instead of $699.99 for 1080Ti a difference of $11.99

Now this is based on the assumption that 1070 will do 400h/s for 140w if not then I don't think 1070 is that efficient.

Hope this helps, If I made any mistake please let me know.

Regards,
BLife

How are you able to get 690h/s out of a GTX 1070!? I'm seeing here and elsewhere ~400h/s average.

 He's not, he was comparing an "equal production" amount of 1070s to a single 1080Ti.
 Refer to the first line I quoted.


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June 14, 2017, 06:57:14 PM
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From the research I did I saw that the best choice is a 1070 which I can afford in a few months so I will wait but can someone tell me which of the 2 would be better, palit 1070 jetstream or the superjetstream?
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July 05, 2017, 01:59:15 PM
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on the topic of best GPU to mine ZEC with . . where are you mining your ZEC? Best returns w/ what pool? I've been using slushpool and its a nice design but the returns are simply poor.

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Right now the gpu for mining are 1070 and 1080 from nvidia and Rx 570 and rx 580 from AMD. They have  a god ratio for performance/cost. I have tested R9 390 that has 31 MHS but the consuming is 330kwh.

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July 05, 2017, 08:29:28 PM
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Right now the gpu for mining are 1070 and 1080 from nvidia and Rx 570 and rx 580 from AMD. They have  a god ratio for performance/cost. I have tested R9 390 that has 31 MHS but the consuming is 330kwh.

 And it's not melting down?

 8-P


 I'm actually assuming that was a typo and it's eating 330 watts, which would be in line with my R9 290 cards mining ETH.


 At CURRENT pricing, the GTX 1080ti is the overall best card for ZEC - but if 1070 and 1080 pricing drops back to where those cards were at 2 months ago, it becomes a "more or less tossup AT THE RIG level" competition again.

 Before the recent "shortage price gouging", all 3 of them were capable of achieving better than 1 sol/s per $ (NOT counting the underlying MB/RAM/CPU/etc) and fairly close to that counting the entire system with careful shopping for a low-cost system.

 At current pricing, the RX series has VERY POOR performance/cost ratio - they were very good 3 months back before the shortages drove the pricing up though.



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Hi guys im a new miner currently i mine with 2x 1060 1x 970 ethereum and planning to try zcash.
I got my inno 3d 1060 for $300 and gigabyte g1 1060 for $360, and thats when the price still normal here before going up. Im not sure for some ppl here bluffing about ridiciously cheaper price than market normal price(maybe if you got lucky and got a couple of units,but not a price to give to others for reference except you want to show off that you`re lucky to get the cheapest price at that time) So anyway i wanna ask what should i get next there are rx 570 4gb $275++ 580 $335++ or gtx 1080ti $900 well i have a tight budget actually and not that much electricity but currently the only avaible gpu is the gtx 1080ti only and nobody knows when the amd will come. So is it rly worth it to take the 1080ti? I think the roi is about 10-12 months(my electricity cost $0.13/kwh). Thanks bfr if anyone answer this
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Hi guys im a new miner currently i mine with 2x 1060 1x 970 ethereum and planning to try zcash.
I got my inno 3d 1060 for $300 and gigabyte g1 1060 for $360, and thats when the price still normal here before going up. Im not sure for some ppl here bluffing about ridiciously cheaper price than market normal price(maybe if you got lucky and got a couple of units,but not a price to give to others for reference except you want to show off that you`re lucky to get the cheapest price at that time) So anyway i wanna ask what should i get next there are rx 570 4gb $275++ 580 $335++ or gtx 1080ti $900 well i have a tight budget actually and not that much electricity but currently the only avaible gpu is the gtx 1080ti only and nobody knows when the amd will come. So is it rly worth it to take the 1080ti? I think the roi is about 10-12 months(my electricity cost $0.13/kwh). Thanks bfr if anyone answer this

See the post right before yours:

At CURRENT pricing, the GTX 1080ti is the overall best card for ZEC - but if 1070 and 1080 pricing drops back to where those cards were at 2 months ago, it becomes a "more or less tossup AT THE RIG level" competition again.

IMHO don't bother waiting for RX cards – even when they start filling backorders it will be a lottery if you get any or not. And if you ever decide to mine ETH then the DAG slowdown will make them slower than they are currently.
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Hi guys im a new miner currently i mine with 2x 1060 1x 970 ethereum and planning to try zcash.
I got my inno 3d 1060 for $300 and gigabyte g1 1060 for $360, and thats when the price still normal here before going up. Im not sure for some ppl here bluffing about ridiciously cheaper price than market normal price(maybe if you got lucky and got a couple of units,but not a price to give to others for reference except you want to show off that you`re lucky to get the cheapest price at that time) So anyway i wanna ask what should i get next there are rx 570 4gb $275++ 580 $335++ or gtx 1080ti $900 well i have a tight budget actually and not that much electricity but currently the only avaible gpu is the gtx 1080ti only and nobody knows when the amd will come. So is it rly worth it to take the 1080ti? I think the roi is about 10-12 months(my electricity cost $0.13/kwh). Thanks bfr if anyone answer this

See the post right before yours:

At CURRENT pricing, the GTX 1080ti is the overall best card for ZEC - but if 1070 and 1080 pricing drops back to where those cards were at 2 months ago, it becomes a "more or less tossup AT THE RIG level" competition again.

IMHO don't bother waiting for RX cards – even when they start filling backorders it will be a lottery if you get any or not. And if you ever decide to mine ETH then the DAG slowdown will make them slower than they are currently.

I agree with that. For the ZEC, it is still better to use the 1070/1080 and you can make some profit now.
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Hi guys im a new miner currently i mine with 2x 1060 1x 970 ethereum and planning to try zcash.
I got my inno 3d 1060 for $300 and gigabyte g1 1060 for $360, and thats when the price still normal here before going up. Im not sure for some ppl here bluffing about ridiciously cheaper price than market normal price(maybe if you got lucky and got a couple of units,but not a price to give to others for reference except you want to show off that you`re lucky to get the cheapest price at that time) So anyway i wanna ask what should i get next there are rx 570 4gb $275++ 580 $335++ or gtx 1080ti $900 well i have a tight budget actually and not that much electricity but currently the only avaible gpu is the gtx 1080ti only and nobody knows when the amd will come. So is it rly worth it to take the 1080ti? I think the roi is about 10-12 months(my electricity cost $0.13/kwh). Thanks bfr if anyone answer this

See the post right before yours:

At CURRENT pricing, the GTX 1080ti is the overall best card for ZEC - but if 1070 and 1080 pricing drops back to where those cards were at 2 months ago, it becomes a "more or less tossup AT THE RIG level" competition again.

IMHO don't bother waiting for RX cards – even when they start filling backorders it will be a lottery if you get any or not. And if you ever decide to mine ETH then the DAG slowdown will make them slower than they are currently.

I agree with that. For the ZEC, it is still better to use the 1070/1080 and you can make some profit now.

yes i know about ppl whos post before me dude and some didnt make sense thats why i asked for others opinions. some said gtx 1080ti ~100 days ROI thats about 4 months thats impossible where did that guy do the calculation except you can make about 200++ bucks per month? i open the coinwarz calculator links on the above but they havent updated the difficulty on their zcash calculator. Anybody have tried 1080 ti and the ROI? i calculate with zcash the ROi takes a long time 9-11 months, zencash seems giving the best profit now or is there any other coins that have better results for 1080 ti?
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There was a point that $7/day on ZEC was possible - but that was a couple weeks ago when profitability on almost ALL coins peaked.
It's dropped a LOT since then on almost everything.


 RX series cards have been recovering quite a bit on pricing the last week - if you're lucky enough to sneak in an order when someone HAS some at a low price, and usually on the mining-specific cards.

 I managed to snag *ONE* Sapphire RX 470 card out of NewEgg over the last week....

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There was a point that $7/day on ZEC was possible - but that was a couple weeks ago when profitability on almost ALL coins peaked.
It's dropped a LOT since then on almost everything.


 RX series cards have been recovering quite a bit on pricing the last week - if you're lucky enough to sneak in an order when someone HAS some at a low price, and usually on the mining-specific cards.

 I managed to snag *ONE* Sapphire RX 470 card out of NewEgg over the last week....


What price did you pay for that rx470?

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There was a point that $7/day on ZEC was possible - but that was a couple weeks ago when profitability on almost ALL coins peaked.
It's dropped a LOT since then on almost everything.


 RX series cards have been recovering quite a bit on pricing the last week - if you're lucky enough to sneak in an order when someone HAS some at a low price, and usually on the mining-specific cards.

 I managed to snag *ONE* Sapphire RX 470 card out of NewEgg over the last week....



well, you must be a lucky man indeed, cause ny frined is waiting 10 pcs of RX580 for a month already, from IngramMicro he said..
the promised price was good, but ... no card yet, a pity

back to the topic
I think 1070, which can jit 450-460 sol is the way to go
mine asus can do that on PL85 and I bought it for 385$

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There was a point that $7/day on ZEC was possible - but that was a couple weeks ago when profitability on almost ALL coins peaked.
It's dropped a LOT since then on almost everything.


 RX series cards have been recovering quite a bit on pricing the last week - if you're lucky enough to sneak in an order when someone HAS some at a low price, and usually on the mining-specific cards.

 I managed to snag *ONE* Sapphire RX 470 card out of NewEgg over the last week....


What price did you pay for that rx470?

 $259, it was the "with Samsung memory" version.

 It was in stock for a little less than 2 days on a "limit one per 48 hours" then haven't seen it up since, though I did get a "notify" once since then - it was out less than 4 hours after they sent the notify and I didn't see the notify in time.

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There was a point that $7/day on ZEC was possible - but that was a couple weeks ago when profitability on almost ALL coins peaked.
It's dropped a LOT since then on almost everything.


 RX series cards have been recovering quite a bit on pricing the last week - if you're lucky enough to sneak in an order when someone HAS some at a low price, and usually on the mining-specific cards.

 I managed to snag *ONE* Sapphire RX 470 card out of NewEgg over the last week....


What price did you pay for that rx470?

 $259, it was the "with Samsung memory" version.

 It was in stock for a little less than 2 days on a "limit one per 48 hours" then haven't seen it up since, though I did get a "notify" once since then - it was out less than 4 hours after they sent the notify and I didn't see the notify in time.



The AMD cards are still in short supply. We do not see many Vega around.
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The profit is very low those days and I dont see any profit growth in the future...

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