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May 05, 2017, 08:58:42 AM
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Calling it now, Macaroni doxxed as a scammer and faggot by the chans.

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Good thing I didn't put money on that.  Cheesy
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May 05, 2017, 09:26:54 AM
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I do believe the polls aren't accurate and Le Pen gets more votes than 'expected', but I don't think she will rake in enough votes for her to win
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May 05, 2017, 09:38:09 AM
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It's hard to say right now, let's just wait a couple of days and see the real final results. A lot of unpredictable things could happen though, like what happened in the U.S, everyone thought that trump will not get it but he did and Hillary lost. If she ever wins, I believe there will be total chaos in France, literally. I mean, there is a lot of muslims, arabs, africans and she doesn't want any of them. It can't end good.

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May 05, 2017, 10:40:05 AM
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It's hard to say right now, let's just wait a couple of days and see the real final results. A lot of unpredictable things could happen though, like what happened in the U.S, everyone thought that trump will not get it but he did and Hillary lost. If she ever wins, I believe there will be total chaos in France, literally. I mean, there is a lot of muslims, arabs, africans and she doesn't want any of them. It can't end good.

True, no one expected Trump to win or the Brexit to pull through. I agree, if she wins there will be a lot of riots, I bet.
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May 05, 2017, 10:44:36 AM
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It's hard to say right now, let's just wait a couple of days and see the real final results. A lot of unpredictable things could happen though, like what happened in the U.S, everyone thought that trump will not get it but he did and Hillary lost. If she ever wins, I believe there will be total chaos in France, literally. I mean, there is a lot of muslims, arabs, africans and she doesn't want any of them. It can't end good.
Marie Le pen has no chance to win elections. The first round confirmed what sociologists not mistaken. After the debate, the gap only increased. Also do not compare the electoral system in America and in France. Trump would have won the election if America was a classic system of counting votes.
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May 05, 2017, 10:46:50 AM
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It's hard to say right now, let's just wait a couple of days and see the real final results. A lot of unpredictable things could happen though, like what happened in the U.S, everyone thought that trump will not get it but he did and Hillary lost. If she ever wins, I believe there will be total chaos in France, literally. I mean, there is a lot of muslims, arabs, africans and she doesn't want any of them. It can't end good.

And it would be bad for France. I think she is very popular because of her stand stand the continuing entrance of people or refugees from other nations in the Middle East who are at war or on conflict zones. People are also generally fed up with the embedded problems in those refugees and the many terrorism attacks in France. We will see here how history will unfold and where these things can be leading to.
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May 05, 2017, 11:51:55 AM
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Calling it now, Macaroni doxxed as a scammer and faggot by the chans.

It's fake news.
No proof about it.
It's obvious that Le Pen is very desperate and trying everything in her power to win, even using dirty tricks.
In my opinion, Le Pen don't have real program, just trying to scare people in order to get their votes.
She don't have real solutions for french economy, social issues, world issues etc.
When you don't have nothing concrete to offer, only remaining option is to attack others Smiley

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May 05, 2017, 11:59:32 AM
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Lol, cause Lepen is any different.

Without any kind of political power she already stole 6 millions from the French people.
Imagine what she could do with the presidency of the state...

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May 05, 2017, 12:07:37 PM
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Calling it now, Macaroni doxxed as a scammer and faggot by the chans.

It's fake news.
No proof about it.
It's obvious that Le Pen is very desperate and trying everything in her power to win, even using dirty tricks.
In my opinion, Le Pen don't have real program, just trying to scare people in order to get their votes.
She don't have real solutions for french economy, social issues, world issues etc.
When you don't have nothing concrete to offer, only remaining option is to attack others Smiley


I agree, she has no chance to win.

Lol, cause Lepen is any different.

Without any kind of political power she already stole 6 millions from the French people.
Imagine what she could do with the presidency of the state...

Ha ha ha

You have to tell the crazy people who are going to vote for Le Pen, some people are not aware of the evil that they will do when they vote in the candidate with tendencies to steal people's money

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May 05, 2017, 12:40:29 PM
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The one who finances the election knows the exact winner, and mere mortals simply have to wait a few days for the exact result.
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May 05, 2017, 02:43:24 PM
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Calling it now, Macaroni doxxed as a scammer and faggot by the chans.

This exact same thing happened to Clinton just before the election. It seems fishy to me that this info was released in such a timely manner. I'm with you I think Le Pen will win because of this.

Ha and they were worried about Russian interference when all along its someone in their own government.
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We can still never be sure. Macron might not recover from a scandal this close to the polls but we'll never now, in close races anything can happen.

What I'm most concerned is what would the effects be on the EU and hence, on global economy. I couldn't agree more with their stance  towards immigration but I'm not sure what their economic policies would result to. It's ok if it's just them but it would send ripples worldwide.

On the other hand, uncertainty is good for bitcoin.

Calling it now, Macaroni doxxed as a scammer and faggot by the chans.

This exact same thing happened to Clinton just before the election. It seems fishy to me that this info was released in such a timely manner. I'm with you I think Le Pen will win because of this.

Ha and they were worried about Russian interference when all along its someone in their own government.


Russia would benefit the most from EU break-up and American isolationism.
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We can still never be sure. Macron might not recover from a scandal this close to the polls but we'll never now, in close races anything can happen.

What I'm most concerned is what would the effects be on the EU and hence, on global economy. I couldn't agree more with their stance  towards immigration but I'm not sure what their economic policies would result to. It's ok if it's just them but it would send ripples worldwide.

On the other hand, uncertainty is good for bitcoin.

Calling it now, Macaroni doxxed as a scammer and faggot by the chans.

This exact same thing happened to Clinton just before the election. It seems fishy to me that this info was released in such a timely manner. I'm with you I think Le Pen will win because of this.

Ha and they were worried about Russian interference when all along its someone in their own government.


Russia would benefit the most from EU break-up and American isolationism.
The Russians have put everything in to destroy the European Union. I'm sure that immigrant crisis is also the handiwork of Russian. Of course a hasty decision to help the people of Angela Merkel played a crucial role, but the flow of refugees was organized by the Russian.
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We can still never be sure. Macron might not recover from a scandal this close to the polls but we'll never now, in close races anything can happen.

What I'm most concerned is what would the effects be on the EU and hence, on global economy. I couldn't agree more with their stance  towards immigration but I'm not sure what their economic policies would result to. It's ok if it's just them but it would send ripples worldwide.

On the other hand, uncertainty is good for bitcoin.

Calling it now, Macaroni doxxed as a scammer and faggot by the chans.

This exact same thing happened to Clinton just before the election. It seems fishy to me that this info was released in such a timely manner. I'm with you I think Le Pen will win because of this.

Ha and they were worried about Russian interference when all along its someone in their own government.


Russia would benefit the most from EU break-up and American isolationism.
The Russians have put everything in to destroy the European Union. I'm sure that immigrant crisis is also the handiwork of Russian. Of course a hasty decision to help the people of Angela Merkel played a crucial role, but the flow of refugees was organized by the Russian.

Surely everything is done by the russians, isn't it? Don't you think its a bit too easy to waive it away like that?

The flow of refugees wasn't organised by the russians, at most they were part of the cause.

Erdogan let them go through, and there has been made a deal since with him with the members of the EU to stop all these "refugees".
It's hard to say right now, let's just wait a couple of days and see the real final results. A lot of unpredictable things could happen though, like what happened in the U.S, everyone thought that trump will not get it but he did and Hillary lost. If she ever wins, I believe there will be total chaos in France, literally. I mean, there is a lot of muslims, arabs, africans and she doesn't want any of them. It can't end good.
Marie Le pen has no chance to win elections. The first round confirmed what sociologists not mistaken. After the debate, the gap only increased. Also do not compare the electoral system in America and in France. Trump would have won the election if America was a classic system of counting votes.

True. If she wins there will be massive protests, especially from muslims etcetera. This probably won't happen if macron wins, but what if the attackings continue? The terrorists? What is going to happen then?

I'm curious to see how macron is going to handle things, because at this rate the line which holds the multiculturalism is going to snap one day in france, when you have atleast 25% of the population which is heavily anti-immigration..


If you look completely at the whole situation in Europe as a whole And in particular in France, the question becomes: Is it possible to allow such a policy as Marie le Pen to power. According to the latest news, it is not very popular among the population.
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May 05, 2017, 06:26:09 PM
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Le Pen will support the legalization bitcoin?
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check out the french news the people on france sayis no Le pen with 39%

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I think that bitcoin is bit like anarcho-capitalist movement and I would not see any reasons why socialist like Le Pen would really like it(Yes they still can support some centralized adapt of blockchain technology). Still I would like to see Le Pen to be elected because I am anti multiculturalism and so. And after all she wont have much power over bitcoin.
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I think that bitcoin is bit like anarcho-capitalist movement and I would not see any reasons why socialist like Le Pen would really like it(Yes they still can support some centralized adapt of blockchain technology). Still I would like to see Le Pen to be elected because I am anti multiculturalism and so. And after all she wont have much power over bitcoin.
It has no power. The election she will not win that's for sure. It can take you to Parliament many members, but it is only in the event that the investigation against her does not prove her guilt. Who knows, maybe she will run away to Russia and we've never hear.
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May 06, 2017, 01:10:02 AM
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Calling it now, Macaroni doxxed as a scammer and faggot by the chans.

Seems like one of those bets where you need to put some BTC on it and make a profit if you dare Tongue

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Le Pen will support the legalization bitcoin?

I don't know. But I think she will be more sympathetic than Macron on the issue of Bitcoin. Macron is known to have good relations with the banking sector. He will never legalize BTC. With Le Pen, at least we can hope.

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Le Pen will support the legalization bitcoin?

I don't know. But I think she will be more sympathetic than Macron on the issue of Bitcoin. Macron is known to have good relations with the banking sector. He will never legalize BTC. With Le Pen, at least we can hope.

And Russian what's the difference what the attitude of the President of France to bitcoins? You should be interested in the attitude towards bitcoin your dictator Putin. Think he will be more loyal because soon the Russians will be able to earn money with bitcoin and that if you do not disconnect the Internet.
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Calling it now, Macaroni doxxed as a scammer and faggot by the chans.

But your money where your mouth is:
https://www.betmoose.com/bet/next-french-president-runoff-2963#bets-1

And yeah , he was tagged by the russian media, the tool of  Kremlin which has lend millions to Le Pen.
Totally legit.

Actually this so called "hack" will most likely favor Macron.
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Calling it now, Macaroni doxxed as a scammer and faggot by the chans.

But your money where your mouth is:
https://www.betmoose.com/bet/next-french-president-runoff-2963#bets-1

And yeah , he was tagged by the russian media, the tool of  Kremlin which has lend millions to Le Pen.
Totally legit.

Actually this so called "hack" will most likely favor Macron.
Everyone is tired of the russians fake news and propaganda.


Never thought that all this "russian hacking" is a made up story by the MSM?
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We can still never be sure. Macron might not recover from a scandal this close to the polls but we'll never now, in close races anything can happen.

What I'm most concerned is what would the effects be on the EU and hence, on global economy. I couldn't agree more with their stance  towards immigration but I'm not sure what their economic policies would result to. It's ok if it's just them but it would send ripples worldwide.

On the other hand, uncertainty is good for bitcoin.

Calling it now, Macaroni doxxed as a scammer and faggot by the chans.

This exact same thing happened to Clinton just before the election. It seems fishy to me that this info was released in such a timely manner. I'm with you I think Le Pen will win because of this.

Ha and they were worried about Russian interference when all along its someone in their own government.


Russia would benefit the most from EU break-up and American isolationism.
The Russians have put everything in to destroy the European Union. I'm sure that immigrant crisis is also the handiwork of Russian. Of course a hasty decision to help the people of Angela Merkel played a crucial role, but the flow of refugees was organized by the Russian.

Surely everything is done by the russians, isn't it? Don't you think its a bit too easy to waive it away like that?

The flow of refugees wasn't organised by the russians, at most they were part of the cause.

Erdogan let them go through, and there has been made a deal since with him with the members of the EU to stop all these "refugees".


We can still believe they're doing their best to make good use of the situation. Without the EU, they'd be able to negotiate more easily with the former member states. There would also be less resistance to territorial expansion, if they swing that way.

Same with Erdogan, he can always threaten to send in more people. I doubt they'd move against him as he further consolidate power in his regime because of this.

Le Pen will support the legalization bitcoin?
No she is against the entire " cryptocurrency " thing. See

http://bitcoinist.com/france-le-pen-national-front-ban-bitcoin/

The statement of FN is that bitcoin is a "Ponzi Scheme". Funny.


"Le Pen authored a press release last May outlining the dissent against Bitcoin. The problem stems from the World Economic Forum Davos 2016, where digital currencies were actually lauded by some presenters. This promotion by known globalists at the exclusive event cast Bitcoin in a negative light with Le Pen, seeing Bitcoin as a globalist plot against cash and the French people."


""The powerful business lobby Wall Street banks (JP Morgan, Goldman Sachs) relayed by the World Economic Forum in Davos in 2016, sold two ideas to states and institutions like the EU: virtual currencies or cryptocurrencies (the best known is the bitcoin) and a cashless society.""


She thinks it would support globalism?!



http://www.coindesk.com/french-presidential-hopeful-bitcoin-ban/

And at first I only thought she was just against immigration and France not being very independent as a member of the EU. Oh well, it's not like any single person can just kill the cryptocurrency industry. If she's be adamant though, then let her country stagnate. That might make it a less attractive place for freeloaders.

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Why does the French prosecutor's office not investigate the situation with the money that the party Marie le Pen found on the election campaign? Because she could not take this money from the air and in reality they did not have it.
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Why does the French prosecutor's office not investigate the situation with the money that the party Marie le Pen found on the election campaign? Because she could not take this money from the air and in reality they did not have it.
Why not investigate? Marie Le pen's immunity lifted and an investigation is underway. Have even called the Deputy who was the mediator between Le pen and Putin. Just such investigations don't happen overnight. You need to collect 100% proof to the case collapsed in court and she did not abdication of responsibility, and it is quite difficult.
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Actually this so called "hack" will most likely favor Macron.
Everyone is tired of the russians fake news and propaganda.

The mainstream media in France is working 24x7 to prop up Macaroni. It seems like someone from Macron's own team invented this hacking story. Anyway, why he is worrying so much, if he has nothing to hide?

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Le Pen can't win,the most interesting thing that she was going to be  Feyon's "partner"
but things changed and Feyon got dumped by the elites,so now our barbi Ken is going to be appointed
the ever so slightly biased polls show 67% to 33% in favour of Macron,in reality his support is less than that
as there are (USA polls anyone?) people who do not want to show their support for Le Pen publicly
and even taken that into account I expect results approximately 59% to 41% in Macron's favor
so its another four years of uselessness for France

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Calling it now, Macaroni doxxed as a scammer and faggot by the chans.

I am not a  citizen of France but in my opinion Marine Le Pen will be a good President for France. I do hope that she will win the Election but it seems that the Europian union is against her triumph. Anyway it is too early to tell as to who will win the French Election and it is only the French masses that will decide as to whom they will give the key to leadership and authority to their country.
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It was an interesting time to have the release the silent period in France before the election well is in effect but was not when the leak was published with the internet some info will filter through but anyways the news release was a few hours before that ban is put in effect. It is kind of amusing to have a scandal even if Macron wins he will be mired in it.
http://www.france24.com/en/20170506-france-media-rules-prohibit-election-coverage-over-weekend-presidential-poll
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Actually this so called "hack" will most likely favor Macron.
Everyone is tired of the russians fake news and propaganda.

The mainstream media in France is working 24x7 to prop up Macaroni. It seems like someone from Macron's own team invented this hacking story. Anyway, why he is worrying so much, if he has nothing to hide?
Every person has the right to privacy. He must decide for himself what he needs to disclose and what is not. Why is it for him to decide hackers?
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Actually this so called "hack" will most likely favor Macron.
Everyone is tired of the russians fake news and propaganda.

The mainstream media in France is working 24x7 to prop up Macaroni. It seems like someone from Macron's own team invented this hacking story. Anyway, why he is worrying so much, if he has nothing to hide?
Every person has the right to privacy. He must decide for himself what he needs to disclose and what is not. Why is it for him to decide hackers?
That is true until you run in politics then your records are fair game, kind of like a celebrity the paparazzi are there for a reason and it most certainly is to prop a person up to tear em down later for the masses.

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Russians rage against defeat all the candidates that were bought by the Kremlin. I hope that the defeat Marie Le pen is not the last defeat Putin.
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Actually this so called "hack" will most likely favor Macron.
Everyone is tired of the russians fake news and propaganda.

The mainstream media in France is working 24x7 to prop up Macaroni. It seems like someone from Macron's own team invented this hacking story. Anyway, why he is worrying so much, if he has nothing to hide?

Yeah ,and the russian media does the same for le Penne (pun intended).
Can you sot the main difference?

It's what the french want not what Russians want.
And hopefully Macron won't forget this little hack.

With oil at 45$ Putin just made another blunder. Prepare for russian brides for 2 satoshi.

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Actually this so called "hack" will most likely favor Macron.
Everyone is tired of the russians fake news and propaganda.

The mainstream media in France is working 24x7 to prop up Macaroni. It seems like someone from Macron's own team invented this hacking story. Anyway, why he is worrying so much, if he has nothing to hide?

Yeah ,and the russian media does the same for le Penne (pun intended).
Can you sot the main difference?

It's what the french want not what Russians want.
And hopefully Macron won't forget this little hack.

With oil at 45$ Putin just made another blunder. Prepare for russian brides for 2 satoshi.
The worst thing is that Putin is satisfied with worldwide sabotage, and will be responsible for everything the Russian people, and even pay for it out of pocket.
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May 07, 2017, 01:14:28 PM
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Le Pen will support the legalization bitcoin?

I don't know. But I think she will be more sympathetic than Macron on the issue of Bitcoin. Macron is known to have good relations with the banking sector. He will never legalize BTC. With Le Pen, at least we can hope.

Are you so sure about Le Pen's 'sympathy' for Bitcoin more than the 'banker' – Macron? Because this doesn't seem to me like sympathy at all, she hates the digital crypto currency world as a whole, not to mention Bitcoin.

http://bitcoinist.com/france-le-pen-national-front-ban-bitcoin/

If she wins, another dictator will be added to the world, eh..

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This looks like some dirty propaganda, trying to impact on the way people are voting.. probably happening all across the internet right now.

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May 07, 2017, 03:02:17 PM
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http://bitcoinist.com/france-le-pen-national-front-ban-bitcoin/

The statement of FN is that bitcoin is a "Ponzi Scheme". Funny.


"Le Pen authored a press release last May outlining the dissent against Bitcoin. The problem stems from the World Economic Forum Davos 2016, where digital currencies were actually lauded by some presenters. This promotion by known globalists at the exclusive event cast Bitcoin in a negative light with Le Pen, seeing Bitcoin as a globalist plot against cash and the French people."


""The powerful business lobby Wall Street banks (JP Morgan, Goldman Sachs) relayed by the World Economic Forum in Davos in 2016, sold two ideas to states and institutions like the EU: virtual currencies or cryptocurrencies (the best known is the bitcoin) and a cashless society.""


She thinks it would support globalism?!

http://www.coindesk.com/french-presidential-hopeful-bitcoin-ban/
OMG, Le Pen and ultra right with in France is more delusional that I think. I thought that right wing is more libertarian than anything, I was wrong.
They are nothing but fascists who rule by banning undesired and harmful ideas (or so they think) and commending only their own version of reality.
Bitcoin as Ponzi scheme is first argument of newbie who has zero knowledge about Bitcoin.
FN is worried about globalism bitcoin will bring?! They should look at all foreign capital & businesses in France first!

BTW: Macron is winning, early unofficial polls give him 60% of total votes.


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May 07, 2017, 03:11:27 PM
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The Russians have put everything in to destroy the European Union. I'm sure that immigrant crisis is also the handiwork of Russian. Of course a hasty decision to help the people of Angela Merkel played a crucial role, but the flow of refugees was organized by the Russian.

No it this is not true. Russia has nothing to earn if the immigrants flood the Europe. On the contrary, Erdogan, has a big hate against Europe because she does not want him in the eurozone and in the European Union in general. Furthermore, most of the immigrants are manipulated better from Turkey due to the same religion.
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--snip--

The Russians have put everything in to destroy the European Union. I'm sure that immigrant crisis is also the handiwork of Russian. Of course a hasty decision to help the people of Angela Merkel played a crucial role, but the flow of refugees was organized by the Russian.

No it this is not true. Russia has nothing to earn if the immigrants flood the Europe. On the contrary, Erdogan, has a big hate against Europe because she does not want him in the eurozone and in the European Union in general. Furthermore, most of the immigrants are manipulated better from Turkey due to the same religion.

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Wait, the Russians will still be screaming that the elections were rigged. Now I wonder how Marie Le pen will give Putin debts?
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Wait, the Russians will still be screaming that the elections were rigged. Now I wonder how Marie Le pen will give Putin debts?

Anal sex or something like that.

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So are Le Pen fans tired of such much winning?
Probably tired and bored to death.

Seems like the polls got it by 1-2% as expected.
When elections happen in the normal world where who gets most votes wins things go well without russian surprises.

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May 07, 2017, 07:19:53 PM
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So are Le Pen fans tired of such much winning?
Probably tired and bored to death.

Seems like the polls got it by 1-2% as expected.
When elections happen in the normal world where who gets most votes wins things go well without russian surprises.
No Russian surprises will be gone. I think that now the French will be surprises for the Russian. It seems to me that the macron is not one of those who forgives Russian interference in his campaign headquarters.
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Russians rage against defeat all the candidates that were bought by the Kremlin. I hope that the defeat Marie Le pen is not the last defeat Putin.

you are not very clever,are you?
or read too much media,show me a single example of a candidate bought by the Kremlin?
and you seriously think Le Pen or whoever else win influences global policy?
the "elections" is just the circus to hide real power which doesn't belong to Putin,Trump or whatever "president" you choose

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May 09, 2017, 09:28:20 AM
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Russians rage against defeat all the candidates that were bought by the Kremlin. I hope that the defeat Marie Le pen is not the last defeat Putin.

you are not very clever,are you?
or read too much media,show me a single example of a candidate bought by the Kremlin?
and you seriously think Le Pen or whoever else win influences global policy?
the "elections" is just the circus to hide real power which doesn't belong to Putin,Trump or whatever "president" you choose


That's... Not quite true. Though not completely false...

The fact is that the real power is still in the hands of the leaders of nations! The problem is simply that those leaders are so greedy and corrupted they don't use it! They prefer simply taking the money from big companies...
But the French president for example would still have all the power needed to fight back and win easily against the big lobbies. Between the army, the police, the secret services and the possibility to impose new laws he could completely free the people.

They just don't want to.

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May 09, 2017, 09:34:57 AM
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Russians rage against defeat all the candidates that were bought by the Kremlin. I hope that the defeat Marie Le pen is not the last defeat Putin.

you are not very clever,are you?
or read too much media,show me a single example of a candidate bought by the Kremlin?
and you seriously think Le Pen or whoever else win influences global policy?
the "elections" is just the circus to hide real power which doesn't belong to Putin,Trump or whatever "president" you choose

You are probably a supporter of conspiracy theories? Marie Le pen is really bought by the Russians. Very good that she lost the election. As for presidents, they put the clans,but after they come to power, politics has been the President, and the clans make money.
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