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May 06, 2017, 01:19:52 PM
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GOOD DAY

I have been studying trading for about a year now, and decided to take myself to the field.
With around 0.003 BTC on me, I have turned in total +104% profit in 1 week. I'm not saying that
I'm the perfect trader, but I would say that I've been studying this long enough to get the hang of it and
make the right decisions.

I'm looking to raise capital:
Selling a total of 100,000 shares for 0.0001 BTC each.

SUMMARY:
100,000 Shares Total
10 BTC Capital
2 week lock in period

PLATFORM:
Poloniex

Strategy:
I will be scalping markets for 7 hours a day, and whenever I'm unavailable to
do active trading, I will be lending on Poloniex's Margin Lending Platform

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May 06, 2017, 10:25:59 PM
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Is there any proof of your previous trades? Any chance to connect your accounts to: https://cointracking.info/

If yes I will want to buy a few shares, we need to see a proof that you are a trader who has initiative and at least understand the market.
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May 07, 2017, 05:56:34 AM
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The idea is good. I still believe you, but you have to show more before anyone will buy shares.
I think cointracking is a good way first. Keep it up!
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May 07, 2017, 10:24:09 AM
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Is there any proof of your previous trades? Any chance to connect your accounts to: https://cointracking.info/

If yes I will want to buy a few shares, we need to see a proof that you are a trader who has initiative and at least understand the market.

The idea is good. I still believe you, but you have to show more before anyone will buy shares.
I think cointracking is a good way first. Keep it up!

I signed up and checked it out, what data should I post here?

Or maybe is it a good idea if I just made an entirely new Poloniex account for trading under this fund?
Since it takes into account my personal exchanges of NXT and BCN showing negative balances (cuz I sent them from my mining and wallets)
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June 05, 2017, 02:04:37 AM
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I signed up and checked it out, what data should I post here?

Or maybe is it a good idea if I just made an entirely new Poloniex account for trading under this fund?
Since it takes into account my personal exchanges of NXT and BCN showing negative balances (cuz I sent them from my mining and wallets)

I'm not sure if you're allowed to hold 2 accounts considering there's verification and other things to consider about. If they do allow, here's what I would prefer:

  • your old account performance statistics (all)
  • your new account performance statistics (1 week+), it'll be easier to track in the future

After looking at both then I think I'll have a better understanding as an investor to consider investing in you (solely based on performance)

If they don't, maybe draw a line on when you started using the strategy you're currently and will continue using.

1. This pretty much solves the question of "What's the underlying of the investment? [Past Performance Based Results]"

2. How could we as investors trust you?
I'm not talking about trusting you on making profits using your strategy, if you manage to provide data above, this question is already solved. Loss from your trading is a risk that should've been considered when investing capital with you. What I'm talking about, how could we trust you to distribute the earnings when you do make profit? It would be a great + if there is some way to address this, but if there's none then it'll be also part of the risk that we should consider. Hence it'll all come down to the distribution which leads to my next question.

3. How would you distribute the earnings if there's any?
Will you be taking a fix amount from profit? a % share from profit? or a fixed % of the amount invested?
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June 05, 2017, 02:27:09 AM
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Is there any proof of your previous trades? Any chance to connect your accounts to: https://cointracking.info/

If yes I will want to buy a few shares, we need to see a proof that you are a trader who has initiative and at least understand the market.
This account tracker wont be really convincing for me on putting up shares with him since he can easily get others trading accounts with good history of trading. 10btc capital raise funds is not a joke and wont be an assurance that you will eventually get your profits thereafter. Better to trade on my own.



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June 05, 2017, 09:27:34 AM
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Is there any proof of your previous trades? Any chance to connect your accounts to: https://cointracking.info/

If yes I will want to buy a few shares, we need to see a proof that you are a trader who has initiative and at least understand the market.
This account tracker wont be really convincing for me on putting up shares with him since he can easily get others trading accounts with good history of trading. 10btc capital raise funds is not a joke and wont be an assurance that you will eventually get your profits thereafter. Better to trade on my own.

Yes, that's right. However as they say, making money requires money. And the more money you have potentially the more money you can make.
It's a game of following trends and going with the flow, but then again more money can mean you lose potentially more money as well.

That's why I'd like to establish my fund using my own money first
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June 05, 2017, 09:35:49 AM
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Is there any proof of your previous trades? Any chance to connect your accounts to: https://cointracking.info/

If yes I will want to buy a few shares, we need to see a proof that you are a trader who has initiative and at least understand the market.
This account tracker wont be really convincing for me on putting up shares with him since he can easily get others trading accounts with good history of trading. 10btc capital raise funds is not a joke and wont be an assurance that you will eventually get your profits thereafter. Better to trade on my own.

Yes, that's right. However as they say, making money requires money. And the more money you have potentially the more money you can make.
It's a game of following trends and going with the flow, but then again more money can mean you lose potentially more money as well.

That's why I'd like to establish my fund using my own money first

I would disagree with you. Making money doesn't necessarily mean it requires money. You can earn money without spending money though you need to give some time and effort to it.

The question here is the trust. It's hard to entrust anyone of your 10BTC since you didn't know each other personally and no one can chase if you somehow run away with it.

I agree that it is better to learn trading yourself so you can do it by yourself.

If you want to earn the trust of the people maybe you might as well consider this:


I'm not sure if you're allowed to hold 2 accounts considering there's verification and other things to consider about. If they do allow, here's what I would prefer:

  • your old account performance statistics (all)
  • your new account performance statistics (1 week+), it'll be easier to track in the future

After looking at both then I think I'll have a better understanding as an investor to consider investing in you (solely based on performance)

If they don't, maybe draw a line on when you started using the strategy you're currently and will continue using.

1. This pretty much solves the question of "What's the underlying of the investment? [Past Performance Based Results]"

2. How could we as investors trust you?
I'm not talking about trusting you on making profits using your strategy, if you manage to provide data above, this question is already solved. Loss from your trading is a risk that should've been considered when investing capital with you. What I'm talking about, how could we trust you to distribute the earnings when you do make profit? It would be a great + if there is some way to address this, but if there's none then it'll be also part of the risk that we should consider. Hence it'll all come down to the distribution which leads to my next question.

3. How would you distribute the earnings if there's any?
Will you be taking a fix amount from profit? a % share from profit? or a fixed % of the amount invested?

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June 05, 2017, 10:29:51 AM
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Is there any proof of your previous trades? Any chance to connect your accounts to: https://cointracking.info/

If yes I will want to buy a few shares, we need to see a proof that you are a trader who has initiative and at least understand the market.
This account tracker wont be really convincing for me on putting up shares with him since he can easily get others trading accounts with good history of trading. 10btc capital raise funds is not a joke and wont be an assurance that you will eventually get your profits thereafter. Better to trade on my own.

Yes, that's right. However as they say, making money requires money. And the more money you have potentially the more money you can make.
It's a game of following trends and going with the flow, but then again more money can mean you lose potentially more money as well.

That's why I'd like to establish my fund using my own money first

I would disagree with you. Making money doesn't necessarily mean it requires money. You can earn money without spending money though you need to give some time and effort to it.

The question here is the trust. It's hard to entrust anyone of your 10BTC since you didn't know each other personally and no one can chase if you somehow run away with it.

I agree that it is better to learn trading yourself so you can do it by yourself.

If you want to earn the trust of the people maybe you might as well consider this:


I'm not sure if you're allowed to hold 2 accounts considering there's verification and other things to consider about. If they do allow, here's what I would prefer:

  • your old account performance statistics (all)
  • your new account performance statistics (1 week+), it'll be easier to track in the future

After looking at both then I think I'll have a better understanding as an investor to consider investing in you (solely based on performance)

If they don't, maybe draw a line on when you started using the strategy you're currently and will continue using.

1. This pretty much solves the question of "What's the underlying of the investment? [Past Performance Based Results]"

2. How could we as investors trust you?
I'm not talking about trusting you on making profits using your strategy, if you manage to provide data above, this question is already solved. Loss from your trading is a risk that should've been considered when investing capital with you. What I'm talking about, how could we trust you to distribute the earnings when you do make profit? It would be a great + if there is some way to address this, but if there's none then it'll be also part of the risk that we should consider. Hence it'll all come down to the distribution which leads to my next question.

3. How would you distribute the earnings if there's any?
Will you be taking a fix amount from profit? a % share from profit? or a fixed % of the amount invested?

Well of course that's if you provide services.. but when you trade of course that is the case Smiley

And I understand that trust is an issue here as well. I'm quite active in currency exchange recently and also i'm going to establish myself here for a while.
Putting some trust in me will be easier better as I establish a background here.
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June 05, 2017, 10:43:34 PM
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I have turned in total +104% profit in 1 week. I'm not saying that
I'm the perfect trader, but I would say that I've been studying this long enough to get the hang of it and
make the right decisions.

This is a BIG red flag. A 104% profit in 1 week is not indicative of future returns, and advertising this is very misleading. Your confidence that you know what you are doing and that a week's profit is evidence of that, is dangerous. Especially given that you are trading in crypto only (is it only btc also?).

If you want investors, you need to show definitive PROOF that you can consistently outperform the crypto market (or whatever market you are trading in) over multiple years. I don't think you are ready to manage other people's money. Furthermore, I'm pretty sure it is illegal for you to be doing this. There are a lot of legal hurdles to overcome in order to create a fund, and the process itself would likely cost more than the total value of the fund you are trying to create.

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June 06, 2017, 01:13:41 AM
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I have turned in total +104% profit in 1 week. I'm not saying that
I'm the perfect trader, but I would say that I've been studying this long enough to get the hang of it and
make the right decisions.

This is a BIG red flag. A 104% profit in 1 week is not indicative of future returns, and advertising this is very misleading. Your confidence that you know what you are doing and that a week's profit is evidence of that, is dangerous. Especially given that you are trading in crypto only (is it only btc also?).

If you want investors, you need to show definitive PROOF that you can consistently outperform the crypto market (or whatever market you are trading in) over multiple years. I don't think you are ready to manage other people's money. Furthermore, I'm pretty sure it is illegal for you to be doing this. There are a lot of legal hurdles to overcome in order to create a fund, and the process itself would likely cost more than the total value of the fund you are trying to create.

First of all, the issue regarding proof has been addressed and i said i would get results when i build more capital
For myself. Also, how can we talk abour legality right now when we're dealing with crypro? That is probably the most insignificant part of being a fund with crypto.
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HI Enre,

Do you have historical data of your past performances ?

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HI Enre,

Do you have historical data of your past performances ?

Good question. I am also wait for answer to this question.

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June 15, 2017, 05:23:00 PM
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HI Enre,

Do you have historical data of your past performances ?

Good question. I am also wait for answer to this question.

Hello guys, I am still gaining capital for the trades so I can show you guys my historical data Smiley
I'm gaining capital on my own for now to gain trust
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June 16, 2017, 12:17:12 PM
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In your own words "I have been studying trading for about a year now, and decided to take myself to the field." means you have no practical experience and without it why will anyone trust you with their money ?

To send you 0.0001 BTC one has to spend nearly the same amount in transaction fee, but your return of investment is just 104% profit weekly. So, not much to earn in short term ?

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LOL
one year of study and then you invest only 0.003 BTC?


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LOL
one year of study and then you invest only 0.003 BTC?



Well, in fairness, it was just a test to see how I could predict the movement of the market, and as I said I'm gathering capital to invest in my own fund Smiley
Study =/= investment
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LOL
one year of study and then you invest only 0.003 BTC?



Well, in fairness, it was just a test to see how I could predict the movement of the market, and as I said I'm gathering capital to invest in my own fund Smiley
Study =/= investment
I would really say that you would really have a hard time on gaining trust on this forum since the projected amount of fund you plan is really big.If I were you since you do trust your skills on doing trading then its much better to seek out offline lending firms and would take a loan and would fund your trading account since you know how to make it big then you can easily repay the loan.Good luck



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June 19, 2017, 07:15:20 PM
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I would suggest joining a fund, offering your services to an established institution rather than trying to gain reputation right off the bat.

I'd like you to contact me if you have any interest in a similar offer.
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Why is there so much text to read when we're dealing with such small funds?
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