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May 16, 2018, 10:03:30 PM
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May 16, 2018, 10:33:45 PM
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scam coin

Yeah this coin is a scam



Old Members are leaving the project

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when have they ever told the truth  Grin

yup they always lie dw

they lied about the 22nd

it is a scam
Xtrabytes is a Scam!!!! -Proven-



exactly the point, there's no proof of tech  Cool. I probably held more XBY than anyone here, in the 7 digit range, just sold 38k not long ago and dropped the price back to 1200 +/-, it's a sham, a rouse, a facade, but idiots still help me make money...I hope you enjoy the price cratering  Cool Cool Cool

Also read this please.
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Borz and CCR are selling their coins!!!
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/264441735604600834/423477080655921152/3_14_2018.png


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https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/264441735604600834/423352831328780290/3_14_18.png reposting!!!

CCR admited to the project being a scam!!

https://imgur.com/a/XT2yJ

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So, what if Borz were to get hit by a car, won't the project die? and why give the keys to a man who is a scammer?

Here's a good post about who borzolom is btw.
It comes as a crosspost from an Old /r Cryptocurrency post

It's some basic proof that borz is a scammer and he controls the keys to XBY future
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I have been hearing a lot of newer traders talking about XBY(xtrabytes) lately, and I am not sure if people are actually doing their due diligence before jumping headfirst into what has been shaping up day after day to be an extremely risky longshot, if not an outright scam.

I'll admit, I invested in the coin in the low satoshi range (<100 sats), because why not? A $100 investment into what may or maynot become an interesting project that I got into early could be very lucrative in a few years. The community in the beggining was great, very positive and welcome to new coin investors, and the project overall had a great backstory: After all investors being scammed by the Bitmox developers, an investor who happend to be a crypto-dev took it upon himself to get a hold of the code, and try to revive it so that the investors didnt just lose everything they put into the ico (prices only ever got up to the ~14ish satoshi range during bitmoxs life). The dev, an apparently deaf hungarian with bad english speaking skills, recruited an english speaking marketing veteran, who was positive, chipper, and also eager to ressurect this coin and give his investment a second chance.

Within a few days, the daunting task of simply resurrecting the coin was made even more interesting - The team began speaking of some ideas that the developer had regarding a new consensus algorithm, which would require a "masternode" type arrangement, again piquing my interest in the project. I began to spend more time trying to find any details that they would provide for this developement, while in the meantime the price for this coin began to rise and the community began to grow. Not long after this, another bold claim - the developer has come up with a mechanism to ensure that network would be much more secure, using a newer p2p network impementation that no coin has. With these fantastic claims, of course comes doubt - and the marketing man becomes a bit unhinged, attacking anyone leveling any sort of criticism towards the coin as evidenced in this disturbingly aweful video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cN6vand5Dp4

A surge in interest in the coin manifests simply from the fact that there are masternodes, or what they are calling "static nodes", that require a certain number of coins to be locked away in cold storage. The price slowly increases as more people become aware.Suddenly the marketing goes from the daunting task of resurrecting a coin, to claiming that they have a genius dev, who is inventing new technologies that will change the cryto landscape forever. Hype began building, and all rationality went out the window. Each day, the claims becoming more incredulous, with speculation that the developer, who has yet to idenitify himself, is a PHD in mathematics from Princton, Or MIT, or a Univesity in France. Claims that he may be Satoshi Nakamoto himself begin making the rounds. The Marketing man, instead of tamping down expectations, now is full fledged in FOMO mode. The price begins to behave extremely irrationally, people begin trying to pump the coin through 4chan, and we begin to see the first signs of market manipulation:

https://imgur.com/a/uW8o2

Price shoots up from 200 satoshis to 700 satoshis in an instant, and the FOMO from the channel becomes extremely disturbing. As people begin questions the market movement in the general slack channel, a select group of members begins to berate them, ignoring questions outright and labeling even the most mundane of concerns as trolling and FUD. Things begin to get very suspicious to me, as I hear claims that there are problems with the wallet code even being offered by this genius dev, that the repo lacks any sort of real view into the work being done, etc, etc. So I begin to look myself at https://github.com/borzalom

At the time, there are two projects, one BAC project (some previous venture of this developer), and the Bitmox project (which was the scam coin code being resurrected). There are minimal commits, nothing of substance. Many people begin noticing the discrepancies, and the slack channel becomes outright hostile to anyone not toeing the company line. The price begins to subside, and correct down to its 200 satoshi norm level, but the FOMO in the channel just gets worse, and worse. The marketing guy is now openly stating that the developer is going to be rewriting the code entirely, and will release a non-clone coin with no relation to bitcoin or ethereum, nor any other coin on the market. FOMO is now at astronomical levels, with the slack taking on an almost cult-like air, and the price once again takes an exteremely suspicious pace, as it increases from 700 satoshis to 1700 satoshis within days, with major dumps followed by increased FOMO everywhere pumping the price up, rinse and repeat. Rumors that a second level of statics manifest, and another FOMO rally appears to be brewing.

The doubts begin to spill out into multiple forums at this point, as there does not appear to be any relevant need for a second level of staticnodes other than selling more coins and creating FOMO, and some disturbing posts begin to be made on 4chan.org/biz which ultimately lead to the revelation that the developer is not who they claim him to be, nor is he even hungarian - that he is a drupal programmer from Florida. The price literally plummets, and sentiment in the slack is off the charts. It becomes a with us, or against atmosphere - and group of hardcore loyalist begin promoting that everyone should be buying up the cheap coin, which it appears they do as the bleeding somewhat stops in price. The 4chan info never seems to leave 4chan as promised by the leaker, but it is apparent at this moment that the price was being manipulated hard by 4chan pumps, and that the loyalists are now in control of most of the coin.

I begin to look myself at who these loyalists are, and lo and behold, they are all listed as "board members" for the coin. Their intentions are now extremely suspect in my mind. The mood in the slack becomes very nerve wracking, and there is near CERTAINTY that this will pump as they try to generate as much FOMO as possible. I now believe the poster on 4chan is correct, and that either the entire team is in on pumping this coin for pure profit, or that there is a contingent of them working to do so. Their plan seems to have backfired at this point, as there has been a clear lack of interest in the coin due to all the lies and misinformation being FOMO'd right from the team itself.

I take a close look at the info in the 4chan posts, and cross-reference with my own research into the github projects - everything seems to be connected to the devs username and email address, and upon close examination the whole thing just looks bizarre:

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=site%3Agithub.com+szabozee http://lmgtfy.com/?q=whois+borzalom.hu

The github username is indeed connected to multiple previously 'abandoned' coins, most of which look like a scam, and with a little digging, one can associate several of those coins with that email address and username on multiple domains and in github. Most telling is that the username is even indeed connected the the web development company this developer apparently works for, as noted by commits to their github, also confirmed to be theirs from a facebook group.

Links to some of the archive of 4chan.org/biz posts - feel free to search for more as there are plenty: https://warosu.org/biz/thread/S2310966 <- Good summary of the story as told by disturbing posts https://warosu.org/biz/thread/S2307553 <-The one where the revelation is made about the dev https://warosu.org/biz/thread/S2290510 https://warosu.org/biz/thread/S2289245

I will not past the developers name here, but you can find everything you need to know by looking at the official repos and domains for this project. borzalom.hu xtrabytes.club aedb.eu

github.com/borzalum github.com/szabozee

This is a warning to all of you newer investors that even a seasoned investor such as myself can get caught up into the FOMO, and make bad decisions. Is this coin a scam for sure? I cannot tell you for sure - but I can tell you right now that this thing stinks, and that either the whole team is in on it, or maybe only a faction within the "board", but looking at the price charts, it is fairly obvious that the price has been rigged, and that someone has been dumping their coins.

The tools provided by the developer are also broken, and during the last price dump back to 700, it is confirmed several static nodes were sold off as anyone can confirm by searching their slack and seeing it being discussed by the team members (they bought the coins, FYI). While this happened, none of the static nodes went offline in the static list, and several million coins were being moved around - with no way to know by whom.

This is either a very elaborate scam with preplanned exit scam (selling level 1 statics at a certain price point to exit, covering it up with FOMO from second level static sales), or pure pump and dump with same logic (seeing as you can see the team collecting as many coins as possible after the dump - did they put out the FUD on their own to lower the price?)

With no real working technology to speak of, and only promises by a developer and marketing man who has been shown to be a liar now on multiple occasions, this coin is a very dangerous buy - and I would be wary of holding large amounts of it in cold storage as required by the devs for either level 1 or level 2 statics for the simple reason that if this is a pump and dump scam, you will not have nearly enough time to move your coins from storage to the exchanges before the coin is worthless and you are left holding heavy bags.

Good luck to all of you, and I hope for everyones sake that is involved in this project whether through investing or otherwise that this is not a scam. It very well may be just incompetence on the teams part, coupled with pump and dumpers taking advantage of the situation. Either way, the price on this coin appears to not be based on anything factual or fundamental, and as such is liable to crash at a moments notice.

Link : https://www.reddit.com/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/6g9gez/long_read_but_a_must_before_investing_in_xby_be/


Xtra bytes is a scam. The developers are liars and miss deadlines. Don't invest in this vaporware coin!!! Their lies will cause this coin to collapse!!!

Give me proof that the coin isnt a scam? Show me the white paper? Why are the developers hiding? Why are there so many delays? Why do they shill this coin instead of just working on the technology? The coin is a scam. If there isnt a white paper its a scam! they lie and create fake promises!!! What if Borzalom and CCR are the scammers who fled with the ICO money? How do you know they arent? Why do they hide the github? tell me or this coin is a scam!!!
Read this clearly! The circulating supply will not be reduced for years. You have no proof that this coin isnt a scam its just as fake as onecoin!!

THIS IS FUD!!! The circulating supply may be reduced as soon as 5 weeks.
guys, you need to carefully study the information about the projects and monitor all the events taking place. I, in turn, not only study the project, but also pay attention to how professionals behave towards such projects. I can be wrong somewhere, But a person who knows what he is doing will always give good advice. But not all negative feedback about projects should be listened to, because it can be black PR.




I really did not want to do this. But helpingyuu could be true.

I invested at 46sats, I set up the first telegram group, translated the website, did a lot of promo for this coin and many of my friends are also in. I am still holding. But I think about changing this now, as the XBY team is actually pump&dumping its own Token "XFUEL". "Bikerleszno" actively approaches people, claiming things that are not true to convince people to sell XFUEL low and buy it high. As there is no exchange on which you can trade XFUEL, XBY Team members are practically privileged to trade these tokens, as they are more likely to be trusted than some random guys who won at the christmas giveaway.

So, I do not have the beginning of our conversations. At first, he approached me on slack and this conversation is not available anymore. There he asked me if I need some XFUEL for 0.8 XBY/ 1 XFUEL and that this would be some kind of special offer. I told him that I had to read everything about the tec behind it first and that I will reply tomorrow. The next day, I said that I am okay with it and he told me that its 0.9 now. I was quite pissed but he kept contacting me in the following days (on slack) and finally convinced me (because it could actually be true if there was no dumping) to buy a small amount of XFUEL . I did not trust him completely as it seemed weird.








Yesterday I received the translation bounty, which were around 900XFUEL. I contacted bikerleszno by saying I got around 1k xfuel now, sent it and was just entering that I am gonna buy more as he asked me "u want sell xfuel ? i can buy for 0.6"
I was just talking to other German translators and informed them about what I was thinking and some could confirm that Bikerleszno is approaches people and asksthem if they want to buy/sell XFUEL, one of them even sold XFUEL to Bikerleszno for only 0.65XBY.

I was really pissed and texted to Bikerleszno the following:
"wtf dude I will never sell xfuel to you for 0.6 greedy boy
First you try to sell me xfuel all the time, promising that it will never go below 0.85
Then you try to buy for 0.6 , like what the fuck man you got enough money, why would you dump your own token to get money of your community
thats fucking disgusting
I bet you be trading a lot with xby, making it more volatile"


No answer.
So I told it to another team member, molten, for information who to contact (but I did not even say the name).

molten - Yesterday at 14:18
Oh, i know who you are talking about.... I think he has been told to stop what he is doing. Talk to dave about it for more details
molten - Yesterday at 14:21
If he has not stopped what he is doing, he will face problems. I know the issue was raised a few days ago and he was confronted

after which I was contacted by their general manager. He said he is sorry for that and Bikerleszno will face consequences.

BryanK - Yesterday at 14:40
Understood. I will conduct follow up and let you know the outcome.
Thank you for bringing it to our attention!
We want fairness in the community.


But then, a few hours later, I received a message.

bikerleszno - Yesterday at 18:55
lol man i just made an offer ... :wink: i am not talking u have to sell it to me
and i made u offer because i saw u want to sell it for 0.7 so what is wrong with u mate ?
and dont use that kind of words when u talking with me ok ? it is too much !
and yeah i promised i will never sell below 0.85 and i am not selling any xfuel right now ... and even if i was selling some never cheaper... so what is your point !? people like u making haos here...


So I was arguing with him, you can read the whole conversation here: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1sPyuOLhYPlnwdjWdCnVTuAeY9ueooHD-dz4ZTidA4xs/edit?usp=sharing

Then I was writing with the other German translators on the German channel about the whole thing and suddenly, my messages were removed and Bikerleszno wrote a long message in which he was accusing me of spreading wrong FUD about him and that this is my "last chance". I did not reply to him, just asked the other German tranaslators about their opinion. A few hours later I was removed from their Discord.

I really supported this project. It has a great potential and the lead developer Borzalom has incredible knowledge, but I also think that some of their team members are just some lucky greedy morons who jumped on the train by kissing arse very early. And, sadly, the leaders are backing this. Maybe there is a reason why there is 0 transparence about their team. New investors, be aware!

I explained situation fully and will do it here also. Now you are creating FUD, a lot of FUD everywhere about this situation. No more. I warned u.



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[21:30] bikerleszno: @Zitzenfuzler It is last warning for u.  Yes really last one and there will not be second because I explained u everything and u know it also. Situation is clear enough. I am not going to see anymore as u are blaming me about your deal. Yes U bought from me 30k xfuel for 27k xby that is true. It is true I wrote u I can refund your xby but it was not unlimited time offer and u know it. First of all u putted your sell offer yesterday on xfuel-trade channel. U wrote u want sell it for 0.7 so when I saw it I send private message for u and made my offer that I can buy for 0.65 ratio. It was just offer. Every other normal user is answering like "Ok lets make a deal" , "Ok lets negotiate a little bit" or "No thank u I will wait for better offer". U didnt answer me any of this method. U wrote me exactly this :
"[12:46] Zitzenfuzler: wtf dude I will never sell xfuel to you for 0.6 greedy boy
[12:51] Zitzenfuzler: First you try to sell me xfuel all the time, promising that it will never go below 0.85
[12:52] Zitzenfuzler: Then you try to buy for 0.6 , like what the fuck man you got enough money, why would you dump your own token to get money of your community
[12:52] Zitzenfuzler: thats fucking disgusting
[12:53] Zitzenfuzler: I bet you be trading a lot with xby, making it more volatile"

So after i saw this message i was mad. U attacked me. U used bad words. Last of u did u told me u will make all our conversation public if i will not do what u want. It was too much for me! I didnt expect anyone can behave like this.

I am honest person and there were a lot of people happy with making transaction with me. And that is right I am board member but it doesnt mean I cant making trads. Buying cheap, and selling higher is point of trading. I am not damaging of XBY or XFUEL project. A lot of people doing it.
[21:31] bikerleszno: Last one if u would be nice to me, and if u could came to me and say hi buddy, i need to sell xfuel i need cash u said me u will able to rebuy it and does it still valid, i would answer u - yes sure, no problem my friend I can help u with this. But No, U attacked me, made me bad reputation in german channel and in some other places. Now I have to waising time for writing this explanation and u still doing the same. Writing shits about me and pasting our convo images.

It must be done. It is last (u know it is second already) official warning. I am not going to work with u on translate any more text. You are already out of translators team. If I will see one more information about me anywhere or anyone will inform me u are talking about things I already explained here I will kick u out of our community here. You have no idea what you are doing. It is YOU, yes YOU are damaging our project because if some different people will see that which have no idea about our situation will think that some of board members are scamming or cheating here which is not true. I will not allow u to making this FUD against me anymore. LAST WARNING!

You shouldn't call it FUD bikerlezno, you should cooperate with him to solve this situation. First, why did you approach him like you did, weren't you in the wrong in the first place? It isn't FUD (fear, uncertainity and doubt) if it isn't about the product, but the way you handled the situation...the problem is that he has proof for the way you acted. You have to act much more like a higher member of the board compared to how you are acting now if you want people to trust you.

Ignore calling it a scam or w/e, but you and CCR both act this way. You have to be clear and honest with your investors! That's also why I said an AMA can clear any problems and doubt and put an end to all this drama. Also "threatening to kick him out of the community here" makes you look pretty bad buddy JFYI

Also realize that you're killing the price with the way you and CCR act Bikerlezno (if you only care about price ofc)

Possible scam. watch out...

serious question, why is CCR trying to step down when we don't have a CEO? Also going to spew a dose of realism here....this project is going to tank on the 7th....smh, I hope not but...yeah...

@cryptoyachtclub, yeah but not for much longer, CCR is leaving

Not trying to FUD, but I do want to see this project succeed...but c'mon lol. Why not put someone like Fish in-charge. Fish might be arrogant and moody, but he believes in this project and doesn't back down from challenges

Edit : Nvm fish sucks, he should go get a glowing hot rod, pull down his pants and take that glowing hot rod and...-censored-


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May 16, 2018, 10:47:29 PM
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https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3882396.new#new

NEW XTRABYTES ANN
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May 18, 2018, 04:32:52 PM
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Fake ANN. Official XBY ANN is currently closed due to spam by this fake users.

XTRABYTES - The Proof Of Signature Blockchain Revolution (https://xtrabytes.global)
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CCR closed the ANN, not Candi.
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May 19, 2018, 08:20:18 AM
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CCR closed the ANN, not Candi.

Yes, because of your SPAM trash FUD posts every 2 minutes, from your newbie multi accounts Cheesy

So, closed because of your SPAM, read https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2725299.msg32319321#msg32319321

XTRABYTES - The Proof Of Signature Blockchain Revolution (https://xtrabytes.global)
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Proof of FUD


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May 19, 2018, 06:21:25 PM
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it's an http server and it wont be released soon lol

and you dont know rock?

https://github.com/XTRABYTES/SSS is for devs to test the DApps.

5K+ members in discord.

Like Bitconnect didnt have thousands of blind supporters.

Will XBY go this route? I dont know, there are a some pointers that it can go this way. PoSign is modded DASH masternodes , which isn't all that new, from what I can tell.


XBY is not an ICO, and all history is available https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1864397.msg22826631#msg22826631 so, it is not comparable.

PoSign is a new an unique algorithm, https://blog.xtrabytes.global/?s=posign and a platform. Currently it just a words, I know, but soon it all be revealed.

I bet, thousands of people are silently watching XBY.  Grin

I had asked my friend to analyze code, which is now available (part of it) looks like DASH masternodes system modified. Nothing so really innovative, and it does had ICO - bitmox scam ICO.

Btw. patent thing is a bs in crypto world, and very stupid thing to do really.


Masternodes vs STATIC Nodes


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May 20, 2018, 09:47:30 PM
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I regret that this project has ceased to develop. In early 2018, I invested in this coin and these brought me losses. But I have not sold the coin yet.

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May 20, 2018, 09:56:37 PM
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I regret that this project has ceased to develop. In early 2018, I invested in this coin and these brought me losses. But I have not sold the coin yet.

Development has never gone better I would say. Definitely read the update tomorrow  Smiley

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May 21, 2018, 12:09:02 PM
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I regret that this project has ceased to develop. In early 2018, I invested in this coin and these brought me losses. But I have not sold the coin yet.

Development has never gone better I would say. Definitely read the update tomorrow  Smiley

Welp. Candi tried to help you guys and even told me not to troll and even shouted at me. I hope you're enjoying your dying project I guess. Guy's even been buying XBY to help the project, but you and fish are dicks, supreme too. Dam idiot even placed that 500,000 buy order. Trust me bro, If I get involved in this project, I would annihilate it and turn it to dust simply because of the incompetence of the management.

Update's not going to bring anything bro, you're kicking whales out of this project who tried to help. I wouldn't be suprised if they wipe the entire Buy order book clean
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May 21, 2018, 12:24:08 PM
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P.S Invest in Pied Piper Coin. It's the best coin on the internet!

#PiedPiperShillArmy #Spreadtheword
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