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May 14, 2017, 01:17:27 PM
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Reject my argument piecemeal. Dissect it. Destroy it. I want the clarification, not just the refutation:

Explain the mechanism by which illegals vote

Identify and describe the Democrat introduced legislature that enables this alleged behavior (here's a hint, try non citizen ID laws, it's a common rhetorical point on this from your side)

Describe a specific geographic region with characteristics that could facilitate illegal voting

Any of these weakens my argument, but does not invalidate it. Show me my error.


Google is your friend. Don't expect people to waste their times on things that are patently obvious.
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May 14, 2017, 01:32:42 PM
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Reject my argument piecemeal. Dissect it. Destroy it. I want the clarification, not just the refutation:

Explain the mechanism by which illegals vote

Identify and describe the Democrat introduced legislature that enables this alleged behavior (here's a hint, try non citizen ID laws, it's a common rhetorical point on this from your side)

Describe a specific geographic region with characteristics that could facilitate illegal voting

Any of these weakens my argument, but does not invalidate it. Show me my error.


Google is your friend. Don't expect people to waste their times on things that are patently obvious.

In the spirit of argument, not vitrol, can you provide just a singular source? My friend Google has told me that you are on that bullshit, and I believe him.

Is is that you won't, or that you can't?

And dammit man, join a goddamned Sig campaign, I want to see you profit. I enjoy your opinions, even though I disagree with them. It's a big enough world for both of us.
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May 14, 2017, 04:14:19 PM
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Reject my argument piecemeal. Dissect it. Destroy it. I want the clarification, not just the refutation:

Explain the mechanism by which illegals vote

Identify and describe the Democrat introduced legislature that enables this alleged behavior (here's a hint, try non citizen ID laws, it's a common rhetorical point on this from your side)

Describe a specific geographic region with characteristics that could facilitate illegal voting

Any of these weakens my argument, but does not invalidate it. Show me my error.


Google is your friend. Don't expect people to waste their times on things that are patently obvious.

In the spirit of argument, not vitrol, can you provide just a singular source? My friend Google has told me that you are on that bullshit, and I believe him.

Is is that you won't, or that you can't?

And dammit man, join a goddamned Sig campaign, I want to see you profit. I enjoy your opinions, even though I disagree with them. It's a big enough world for both of us.

Ever been to a precint meeting? Or stood around and watched a bit at voting?

RE Sig, no thanks. I am self employed and work for income.
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May 16, 2017, 08:21:54 AM
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Have you thought why third world countries need in their country have found refuge thousands of criminals? No amount of money will justify itself. Besides, all criminals tend to organize gangs, and this is a threat to the state.

No. I don't think that these criminals pose a threat to the third world nations. They will remain in the prison during their jail term. Once their sentence is over, the criminals will be deported back to their own countries. The third world nations which house them will gain, in the form of increased employment and financial grants.

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May 16, 2017, 01:18:26 PM
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Have you thought why third world countries need in their country have found refuge thousands of criminals? No amount of money will justify itself. Besides, all criminals tend to organize gangs, and this is a threat to the state.

No. I don't think that these criminals pose a threat to the third world nations. They will remain in the prison during their jail term. Once their sentence is over, the criminals will be deported back to their own countries. The third world nations which house them will gain, in the form of increased employment and financial grants.

Yezzir. Keeping said inmates here would simply eat up our tax dollars, as you can't deport them with a bill (we should though). I'm all for it, we spend a ridiculous amount of budget supporting the private prison system, let it actually help us, for once. Besides, Sessions just got tough on sentencing, and CCA just went ham building new illegal immigrant detention centers. I think they are preparing Wink

But yeah, this is all about security.
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May 18, 2017, 10:49:50 AM
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well the longer it takes I think the less chance that this will be I fruitition. I agree with all your points dude especially that we're billingmexico for this thing. it doesn't make sense why they would agree to do so and would they do if the mexicans don't pay for it Cheesy

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May 20, 2017, 05:15:18 PM
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well the longer it takes I think the less chance that this will be I fruitition. I agree with all your points dude especially that we're billingmexico for this thing. it doesn't make sense why they would agree to do so and would they do if the mexicans don't pay for it Cheesy

I think so as well. This from the beginning seems a bit to comical to come true and to have the Mexican government pay for it would make it almost impossible for Trump's supporters to see implemented. It can probably be done if we're paying but I think there are a lot more things and issues that warrants attention and funds aside from an ambitious wall
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May 21, 2017, 01:30:46 AM
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Donald Trump's wall is simply pandering to the masses. He is reading his own press. He cannot truly believe that building a wall will seriously address the complex issue of immigration. He cannot be that shallow, right? He speaks like he has always done, like he is still on his own TV show. He reigned supreme on his show. He decided on who would stay and who would go. He talks like that is exactly how he would run the country. And people are falling for this? How does he expect to run the country like this? He cannot simply impose his rule on the country and decide what is good and what is bad. Makes him no better than what we already have. So, back to the question. No. I agree with some of the other comments here...the Berlin and Great Wall, great answer and he cannot fire Mexico because they won't do what he wants them to do. Put more effort into making the process of legal immigration more attainable in less time. Maybe more people would follow the rules.
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May 21, 2017, 05:39:41 AM
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well the longer it takes I think the less chance that this will be I fruitition. I agree with all your points dude especially that we're billingmexico for this thing. it doesn't make sense why they would agree to do so and would they do if the mexicans don't pay for it Cheesy

I don't think that the Mexicans have any choice other than paying for it. If they refuse to pay, then Trump will impose duties on products from Mexico. A lot of people (especially the factory workers) will be left jobless in Mexico.

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January 24, 2018, 09:07:00 AM
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Let Trump spends his money on that wall. Such a crazy idea could arise only in his sick head.
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January 24, 2018, 12:20:34 PM
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United states of america has a lot money to waste them on this stupid wall. Let Donald Trump build this unreasonable wall. But This wall will bring his end at the end of the day for sure.

 
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