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May 10, 2017, 03:19:07 PM
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Anything electronic can break. I have tried all the hardware wallets and I did have a Trezor go bad and was replaced under warranty. Trezor and KeepKey have one year warranties while Ledger Nano S has a two year warranty which is nice. Anyone who uses hardware wallets regularly normally buys a spare, so if the main wallet is lost or malfunctions the seed can be restored to the spare in 10 minutes.

Ledger and KeepKey used to have a more secure restore process than Trezor but that is now not the case. You can restore a Trezor without typing the seed into host computer now. Hardware wallets are fairly equal now with Nano S and Trezor offering more altcoin support than KeepKey. Your 12 or 24 word seed can be considered a 'paper wallet' and needs to be stored securely, never online.

KeepKey uses a fork of Trezor firmware. I prefer to use the original. Trezor can be used with one hand while it takes two to push the buttons on Ledger Nano S. On the other hand Nano S is less expensive than Trezor.  


I have not tried the newer Ledger Nano (the "S"), I was reasonably happy with the old Nano, but I felt it was not tough.

I had the same concern with my Trezor, it seemed to be not strongly built.

I have not used the KeepKey, it seemed too complex a product for a simple guy like me so I never bought one.

What I do like now is the Digital Bitbox, it DOES seem pretty tough, much more so than the two above ones I used for quite sometime.  It is a one piece (ex. for the recovery chip) made of tough epoxy.  I use it for cold storage.  Made in Switzerland.  Costs something like $50.

BitcoinNewsMagazine, you might want to get one and review it, I would certainly be interested in other people's views, here's their website:

https://digitalbitbox.com/

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May 10, 2017, 04:53:26 PM
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the key is taking a proper backup from your wallets so that in case you lost them or in case of some kind of hardware failure you won't be left without any recovery method of your funds. i believe the hardware wallets also have some sort of seed for this case but i may be wrong since i don't own one.

edit: apparently they do have a seed. so i was right
https://news.bitcoin.com/restore-hardware-wallet-seed-phrase/
https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Hardware_wallet

Agreed but it would be best if u have a tougher hardware wallet that maybe cost a couple of dollars more and also a 12-24 word seed. Still safer. It is kinda like how u put a casing on your mobile phone to prevent damage. I dont get why they shouldnt be a tough casing for keepkey/ledger/trezor.

Well, just my 2 cents.

Most people who buy a hardware wallet probably keep it in a safe or deposit box, but a "tough" version is not a bad idea.

Has any reviewer done a "drop test" to see how durable these devices are?
I would like to see one dropped down the stairs, frozen in a block of ice etc like they do with tablets/ smartphones.  Grin

That is exactly my point. It wont be a bad idea to just add some kinda casing to a hardware wallet to make it tougher. It does not have to be a totally new device.
Hey i am using Spigen slim armor for my phone and it works great.

A tough trezor would be great and especially if it came with a metal seed word keeper where you use stamped letters to lock in your seed.

Or maybe just a casing for it so everyone wont have to get a new one lol.
I wonder if Spigen or other casing manufacturers realize they can probably get a new segment by adding casings to this.

Trezor/Keepkey/Ledger nano should just approach mobile casing manufacturers to talk. A win-win situation imo.
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May 10, 2017, 04:59:09 PM
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Anything electronic can break. I have tried all the hardware wallets and I did have a Trezor go bad and was replaced under warranty. Trezor and KeepKey have one year warranties while Ledger Nano S has a two year warranty which is nice. Anyone who uses hardware wallets regularly normally buys a spare, so if the main wallet is lost or malfunctions the seed can be restored to the spare in 10 minutes.

Ledger and KeepKey used to have a more secure restore process than Trezor but that is now not the case. You can restore a Trezor without typing the seed into host computer now. Hardware wallets are fairly equal now with Nano S and Trezor offering more altcoin support than KeepKey. Your 12 or 24 word seed can be considered a 'paper wallet' and needs to be stored securely, never online.

KeepKey uses a fork of Trezor firmware. I prefer to use the original. Trezor can be used with one hand while it takes two to push the buttons on Ledger Nano S. On the other hand Nano S is less expensive than Trezor.  


I have not tried the newer Ledger Nano (the "S"), I was reasonably happy with the old Nano, but I felt it was not tough.

I had the same concern with my Trezor, it seemed to be not strongly built.

I have not used the KeepKey, it seemed too complex a product for a simple guy like me so I never bought one.

What I do like now is the Digital Bitbox, it DOES seem pretty tough, much more so than the two above ones I used for quite sometime.  It is a one piece (ex. for the recovery chip) made of tough epoxy.  I use it for cold storage.  Made in Switzerland.  Costs something like $50.

BitcoinNewsMagazine, you might want to get one and review it, I would certainly be interested in other people's views, here's their website:

https://digitalbitbox.com/



I took a look at Digital Bitbox back when it cost $120 and was not impressed. I think they dropped the price because it was not selling well. It is limited in comparison to Trezor and Ledger Nano S. Nano S are pretty tough here is a video of one being run over by a car and still works.

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I have not tried the newer Ledger Nano (the "S"), I was reasonably happy with the old Nano, but I felt it was not tough.

I had the same concern with my Trezor, it seemed to be not strongly built.

I have not used the KeepKey, it seemed too complex a product for a simple guy like me so I never bought one.

What I do like now is the Digital Bitbox, it DOES seem pretty tough, much more so than the two above ones I used for quite sometime.  It is a one piece (ex. for the recovery chip) made of tough epoxy.  I use it for cold storage.  Made in Switzerland.  Costs something like $50.

BitcoinNewsMagazine, you might want to get one and review it, I would certainly be interested in other people's views, here's their website:

https://digitalbitbox.com/


U kidding bro? That bitbox looks so flimsy that a small accident can snap it in two... and then u would worry about your word seed and hope u didnt lose that....



I took a look at Digital Bitbox back when it cost $120 and was not impressed. I think they dropped the price because it was not selling well. It is limited in comparison to Trezor and Ledger Nano S. Nano S are pretty tough here is a video of one being run over by a car and still works.

Wow nice
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