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May 19, 2017, 04:25:15 PM
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Casinos and dice games give guaranteed profit when it is used with limitations. The same when goes beyond limit the profitability decreases, also we cannot make modifications to minimize the loss as it is completely based on luck. Considering it an entertainment and moving on to play with what we can afford is the best an user can do.
Well yeah it is a luck game and there could not be make any changes in it for to minimize the risk. This is what makes the difference between the gambling and the trading that in trading you can come with a plan to reduce the risk on the investment on trading while the gambling is an ongoing game mostly depending upon luck.

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May 19, 2017, 04:25:42 PM
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Hey.
I was just wondering to myself, do you guys believe that online casinos are totally legit, or do you also believe that some of them are rigging outcomes.
One of the reason I prefer to bet on sports and not on dice games or at online casinos is that I can't actually know if the casino is paying me as they should, or they tell me that I lost while I was supposed to be a winner.

Does the small house edge(compared to sports betting) worth the chance of the casino rigging the outcomes, making you lose sometimes while you were supposed to be the winner?


Beforehand, I've also had the same thoughts as you, I've even decided not to playing casinos anymore, but after I've tried my luck in the casino for a few days I guess we're just need to waiting for the exact time to playing casino, there's a time when we can always win, Only in a certain period of time that's the exact time to playing casino. Good luck!
Well to my opinion casino should not be played for to earn profit from. Yes there are people who are making quite handsome and big earnings from the casino but these are known as the professionals. They work on it. For them gambling is their routine activity to go and to earn some from it. These are the genius and extreme lucky people.
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May 19, 2017, 04:26:12 PM
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Hey.
I was just wondering to myself, do you guys believe that online casinos are totally legit, or do you also believe that some of them are rigging outcomes.
One of the reason I prefer to bet on sports and not on dice games or at online casinos is that I can't actually know if the casino is paying me as they should, or they tell me that I lost while I was supposed to be a winner.

Does the small house edge(compared to sports betting) worth the chance of the casino rigging the outcomes, making you lose sometimes while you were supposed to be the winner?

Your concern is valid but most of the casinos follow "probably fair" codes. However, there are many scam casinos. It is better if you choose promising ones from the gambling section here as every casino on the list is checked and reviewed by members of the forum.
Well yeah there maybe casino that are not playing fair games but it doesn’t mean that every casino is involved in such unfair activities. There are casino that are trust worthy and they like to play fair games with their clients. Like any other business having both the fair and unfair people involved in it casino also have the same issues.
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May 19, 2017, 04:35:06 PM
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Hey.
I was just wondering to myself, do you guys believe that online casinos are totally legit, or do you also believe that some of them are rigging outcomes.
One of the reason I prefer to bet on sports and not on dice games or at online casinos is that I can't actually know if the casino is paying me as they should, or they tell me that I lost while I was supposed to be a winner.

Does the small house edge(compared to sports betting) worth the chance of the casino rigging the outcomes, making you lose sometimes while you were supposed to be the winner?


casino are more prone to be rigged imho, instead dice game are in bitcoin from a longer time and are more legit, also we have very notorious people behind dice game like stunna, which is trusted, behidn casino site we have not super trusted member, but casino have on their side more fun, i like them more you have more choice



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May 19, 2017, 05:19:35 PM
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Well to my opinion casino should not be played for to earn profit from. Yes there are people who are making quite handsome and big earnings from the casino but these are known as the professionals. They work on it. For them gambling is their routine activity to go and to earn some from it. These are the genius and extreme lucky people.
AFAIK genius cannot make profits from casinos, yes your degree will not get you opportunities to beat the house edge and lucky people may not find possibilities to become professionals. Hence I am not finding any chances for those people to be existing in real life. Making profits from casino might be possible only in fictional stories.

People who got inspired by rumors do develop greedy opinions about entire gambling industry and keep trying to copy those fictional stories.


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May 19, 2017, 07:11:58 PM
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Well to my opinion casino should not be played for to earn profit from. Yes there are people who are making quite handsome and big earnings from the casino but these are known as the professionals. They work on it. For them gambling is their routine activity to go and to earn some from it. These are the genius and extreme lucky people.
AFAIK genius cannot make profits from casinos, yes your degree will not get you opportunities to beat the house edge and lucky people may not find possibilities to become professionals. Hence I am not finding any chances for those people to be existing in real life. Making profits from casino might be possible only in fictional stories.

People who got inspired by rumors do develop greedy opinions about entire gambling industry and keep trying to copy those fictional stories.
Have you not seen the movie 21 about the MIT blackjack team which is based on a real story? People still do that, just saw a documentary about it recently.
Card counting isn't even illegal under US federal law. Casino's can ban you or try to prevent you from doing it, but you're not going to go to jail for it.

Just stating that what you're saying is wrong, a genius can definitely make money from a casino, legally.

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The theory explained in the documentary is simple, when casinos in Vegas and Atlantic City were down in popularity and money, they needed big name whales such as Johnson to play. They offered whales benefits, which Johnson used to take advantage of the system.

His system was simple, he managed to arrange a 20% refund every time he lost money, and by splitting and doubling, he managed to get up to $50,000 in free play. Using different methodologies, as well as scaring dealers into committing errors, Johnson is still ranked as one of the top 10 winners in a single night in casinos.


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May 19, 2017, 07:43:43 PM
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Does the small house edge(compared to sports betting) worth the chance of the casino rigging the outcomes, making you lose sometimes while you were supposed to be the winner?

Due to House Edge casino is on the winning side of the deal here. Objectively speaking, it is better for the casino to offer proper, serious and trusted experience.
In the long run they will earn more money. But there is also the possibility that casino will try to mask their fraudulent activity and bet manipulation.
Lying is always risky, sooner or later someone will uncover the truth behind fraudulent bet manipulation.

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Hey.
I was just wondering to myself, do you guys believe that online casinos are totally legit, or do you also believe that some of them are rigging outcomes.
One of the reason I prefer to bet on sports and not on dice games or at online casinos is that I can't actually know if the casino is paying me as they should, or they tell me that I lost while I was supposed to be a winner.

Does the small house edge(compared to sports betting) worth the chance of the casino rigging the outcomes, making you lose sometimes while you were supposed to be the winner?


casino are more prone to be rigged imho, instead dice game are in bitcoin from a longer time and are more legit, also we have very notorious people behind dice game like stunna, which is trusted, behidn casino site we have not super trusted member, but casino have on their side more fun, i like them more you have more choice

Provably fair system can be used for any casino game, not only dice. Casinos are NOT more prone to be rigged as long as they have the provably fair system implemented.
Rigging a dice game is as easy as rigging any other, because you're not playing against another human but a program, so all you have to do is tinker with it.

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If you think you will get paid because you are a sports bettor, then sometimes you will be wrong.

There are also sports betting sites who do not pay legit winnings and are a scam in general.

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Hey.
I was just wondering to myself, do you guys believe that online casinos are totally legit, or do you also believe that some of them are rigging outcomes.
One of the reason I prefer to bet on sports and not on dice games or at online casinos is that I can't actually know if the casino is paying me as they should, or they tell me that I lost while I was supposed to be a winner.

Does the small house edge(compared to sports betting) worth the chance of the casino rigging the outcomes, making you lose sometimes while you were supposed to be the winner?


I honestly don't think that it's rigged but I think the house edge is much more than it should be. If they are going to rig their website, then how are they going to generate who's going to lose if they are supposed to win? It will be one complicated code. If it's just going to be random, then might as well just increase the difficulty of winning on their game instead of randomly cheating on people.

Gambling sites are already making a lot from their small "house edge". There's no need for them to rig their games at all. Maybe if they are going to rig the game, it's only for the high rollers and they wouldn't mind losing a couple of BTCs in total from the smaller players.

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May 20, 2017, 04:01:22 AM
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True, not all Casinos are fair, there are shady ones. Same as Sports Betting sites. It's not like there's no history of scams, rigged games, and operators vanishing off thin air.
Those are the risks. And that's why it's up to every person to check, research, choose, and trust which Casino/Sports Betting site they'd play at.

Now for Dice or Sports Betting. Dice of course. It's a personal preference. Easy to play, quick results, and it's where I win most often. ^^

 

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Well, i think that it is good if you have good charms. If you know how to play , well definitely you'll earn some btc. You need to search if it is legit or not then if it legit youll sign up and play ofcourse.
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May 20, 2017, 04:32:44 AM
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I think you are just thinking of it as a scam from the very beginning. If they wanted you to lose every time and get every last bitcoin or penny that you have on your account, they would've just got it from the first place and run away from the very start. It's best to see if the players in that casino have experienced something like a rigged system or something, it's good to see if they are happy playing there. Something like that would help you know if it's legitimate or not.



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May 20, 2017, 04:52:51 AM
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Hey.
I was just wondering to myself, do you guys believe that online casinos are totally legit, or do you also believe that some of them are rigging outcomes.
One of the reason I prefer to bet on sports and not on dice games or at online casinos is that I can't actually know if the casino is paying me as they should, or they tell me that I lost while I was supposed to be a winner.

Does the small house edge(compared to sports betting) worth the chance of the casino rigging the outcomes, making you lose sometimes while you were supposed to be the winner?


Beforehand, I've also had the same thoughts as you, I've even decided not to playing casinos anymore, but after I've tried my luck in the casino for a few days I guess we're just need to waiting for the exact time to playing casino, there's a time when we can always win, Only in a certain period of time that's the exact time to playing casino. Good luck!
Well to my opinion casino should not be played for to earn profit from. Yes there are people who are making quite handsome and big earnings from the casino but these are known as the professionals. They work on it. For them gambling is their routine activity to go and to earn some from it. These are the genius and extreme lucky people.
Lately I'm pretty routine bets in the casino, but I just play in a certain period of time and I just need wait for that period in every day then start playing, and I'm very lucky can always a get profit from it.



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May 20, 2017, 09:29:07 AM
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Hey.
I was just wondering to myself, do you guys believe that online casinos are totally legit, or do you also believe that some of them are rigging outcomes.
One of the reason I prefer to bet on sports and not on dice games or at online casinos is that I can't actually know if the casino is paying me as they should, or they tell me that I lost while I was supposed to be a winner.

Does the small house edge(compared to sports betting) worth the chance of the casino rigging the outcomes, making you lose sometimes while you were supposed to be the winner?


If you prefer to do sports betting because you are into sports that's understandable. But if you do it just because you think there are no legit online casinos you are wrong. There are many of them where bets are provably fair and usually they earn from the house edge, not from cheating their customers.


You are right,there are casinos that can prove their fairness with multiple ways. For example: Betvoyager. You can check  result of every game session with fairness control. If you think you are cheated then go to check numbers and compare results with real numbers. If you are not still get convinced ,you can check that complex code of fairness control on different sum hash sites. IMO you need to enjoy from gambling overall, if you gonna to check every single result, you can take advantage of being stressful on casinos Wink

True. I for one don't have a habit to check the fairness of games on a site which was confirmed by many to be legit. You only should do it with new unknown sites imo.

Pick up a site with good reputation and enjoy gambling there without bothering to check every single result.

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May 20, 2017, 09:46:48 AM
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Hey.
I was just wondering to myself, do you guys believe that online casinos are totally legit, or do you also believe that some of them are rigging outcomes.
One of the reason I prefer to bet on sports and not on dice games or at online casinos is that I can't actually know if the casino is paying me as they should, or they tell me that I lost while I was supposed to be a winner.

Does the small house edge(compared to sports betting) worth the chance of the casino rigging the outcomes, making you lose sometimes while you were supposed to be the winner?


If you prefer to do sports betting because you are into sports that's understandable. But if you do it just because you think there are no legit online casinos you are wrong. There are many of them where bets are provably fair and usually they earn from the house edge, not from cheating their customers.


You are right,there are casinos that can prove their fairness with multiple ways. For example: Betvoyager. You can check  result of every game session with fairness control. If you think you are cheated then go to check numbers and compare results with real numbers. If you are not still get convinced ,you can check that complex code of fairness control on different sum hash sites. IMO you need to enjoy from gambling overall, if you gonna to check every single result, you can take advantage of being stressful on casinos Wink

True. I for one don't have a habit to check the fairness of games on a site which was confirmed by many to be legit. You only should do it with new unknown sites imo.

Pick up a site with good reputation and enjoy gambling there without bothering to check every single result.
That's probably one of the things why people get scammed (if the site is new). When someone has discovered some new website or something that is regularly increasing the number of visits, then probably they are going to see if they can scam using the websites name. You would never understand how people would see it because they know the name of the site is legal, it still depends on your perspective if you think there is something sketchy about the site. Check out the gambling section where there are a list of approved online casinos.



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May 20, 2017, 03:13:22 PM
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Hey.
I was just wondering to myself, do you guys believe that online casinos are totally legit, or do you also believe that some of them are rigging outcomes.
One of the reason I prefer to bet on sports and not on dice games or at online casinos is that I can't actually know if the casino is paying me as they should, or they tell me that I lost while I was supposed to be a winner.

Does the small house edge(compared to sports betting) worth the chance of the casino rigging the outcomes, making you lose sometimes while you were supposed to be the winner?


Beforehand, I've also had the same thoughts as you, I've even decided not to playing casinos anymore, but after I've tried my luck in the casino for a few days I guess we're just need to waiting for the exact time to playing casino, there's a time when we can always win, Only in a certain period of time that's the exact time to playing casino. Good luck!
Well to my opinion casino should not be played for to earn profit from. Yes there are people who are making quite handsome and big earnings from the casino but these are known as the professionals. They work on it. For them gambling is their routine activity to go and to earn some from it. These are the genius and extreme lucky people.
Yup I think you are somewhat right here, If you are a casual gambler then it's not the best way to just play for winning because its more likely that you lose more than you win. It always good to play in casinos for fun and obviously for winning but only to gamble as much as you can afford to lose and won't be too upset if you lose it all.

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May 20, 2017, 03:44:39 PM
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I think you are just thinking of it as a scam from the very beginning. If they wanted you to lose every time and get every last bitcoin or penny that you have on your account, they would've just got it from the first place and run away from the very start. It's best to see if the players in that casino have experienced something like a rigged system or something, it's good to see if they are happy playing there. Something like that would help you know if it's legitimate or not.
good point if ever the casino already have a bad records better to assess before playing i guess most of the house which is we can call legit
are those who really taking care of this situation most casino wants to build relationship with their players and really taking care of some issue.

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May 21, 2017, 01:52:10 PM
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Hey.
I was just wondering to myself, do you guys believe that online casinos are totally legit, or do you also believe that some of them are rigging outcomes.
One of the reason I prefer to bet on sports and not on dice games or at online casinos is that I can't actually know if the casino is paying me as they should, or they tell me that I lost while I was supposed to be a winner.

Does the small house edge(compared to sports betting) worth the chance of the casino rigging the outcomes, making you lose sometimes while you were supposed to be the winner?


If you prefer to do sports betting because you are into sports that's understandable. But if you do it just because you think there are no legit online casinos you are wrong. There are many of them where bets are provably fair and usually they earn from the house edge, not from cheating their customers.


You are right,there are casinos that can prove their fairness with multiple ways. For example: Betvoyager. You can check  result of every game session with fairness control. If you think you are cheated then go to check numbers and compare results with real numbers. If you are not still get convinced ,you can check that complex code of fairness control on different sum hash sites. IMO you need to enjoy from gambling overall, if you gonna to check every single result, you can take advantage of being stressful on casinos Wink

True. I for one don't have a habit to check the fairness of games on a site which was confirmed by many to be legit. You only should do it with new unknown sites imo.

Pick up a site with good reputation and enjoy gambling there without bothering to check every single result.
That's probably one of the things why people get scammed (if the site is new). When someone has discovered some new website or something that is regularly increasing the number of visits, then probably they are going to see if they can scam using the websites name. You would never understand how people would see it because they know the name of the site is legal, it still depends on your perspective if you think there is something sketchy about the site. Check out the gambling section where there are a list of approved online casinos.

Good remark. That's why it's very unadvisable to search with Google for a gambling site to play. Scammers can create a site which will look like exact copy of a reputable one changing only one letter in the address and you'll end up losing all your deposit to those scammers. The best way to find a legit link to a known gambling site is looking for it here, on bitcointalk, in the official thread of the site.

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May 22, 2017, 06:01:28 AM
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Hey.
I was just wondering to myself, do you guys believe that online casinos are totally legit, or do you also believe that some of them are rigging outcomes.
One of the reason I prefer to bet on sports and not on dice games or at online casinos is that I can't actually know if the casino is paying me as they should, or they tell me that I lost while I was supposed to be a winner.

Does the small house edge(compared to sports betting) worth the chance of the casino rigging the outcomes, making you lose sometimes while you were supposed to be the winner?


There are rigged casinos, but there are legit casinos as well, you need to choose well, check gambling board and you will find good casinos to play, check for the reviews too to have sure the casino is trusted.
Some rigged casinos can use the small house edge to scam gamblers, but the legit sites don't do this, so yes, you have more chances to make profit in low house edge casinos.

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