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August 09, 2017, 02:01:50 PM
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Is this project aiming at being 100% decentralized or are there -as often times- any backdoors for centralization tendencies?


We don't want to be centralized and will try not to leave any backdoor for that, NVST itself will be used for voting too, for example, if NVST holders wants to fire me, they could do it.
The architecture aims at loosing controle, and allowing updates only.



Update for NVO : We added two secondary architectures to NVO, we are focusing on NVO. The result of the

two other architectures is the decentralization of Coinpayments, which is a decentralized

payment processor (maybe the first) and a real decentralized bank, i can't give the name of the project nor give more

informations as it is a parallel team. this is why i focus so much on the technology of NVO as it will offer a lot of services in the future.



A W E S O M E

i see a bright future for NVO, IMHO we'll see NVST explode in the upcoming months

Thanks for your support, it is good that someone can understand the vision of the future of NVO.




I have invested 1 ETH in NVO ICO. When I was Logging in there was 1 ETH in Etherium section. NOW it's 0, can enyone tell me where my ETH is ...

All funds were send to new escrow adresses by Lauda.
API still looks at the old adresses, which currently are empty.

Enter the BTC addres you registered into xchain.io, you should see your NVST.

I have entered my counterwallet BTC address in "personal bitcoin address" column still no sign of tokens.
Where exactly should I be able to see them? 


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August 09, 2017, 02:30:42 PM
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I have invested 1 ETH in NVO ICO. When I was Logging in there was 1 ETH in Etherium section. NOW it's 0, can enyone tell me where my ETH is ...


The funds have been consolidated, which means they are stored in a single address instead of several separated addresses. The altcoins are on a pending for exchange state, once done, they will be sent to the escrow address.
The team withdrawed 9% of the bitcoins, this is why the altcoin addresses are empty.


In order to verify your tokens, please search for your personal bitcoin address in https://xchain.io



i cannot swipe the tokens through the xcp wallet im stuck at "mport token funds by "sweeping" them from an external address into an address in this wallet.

Preparing output for transactions chaining"

i need help please!

Hello, you can use an alternative : https://github.com/Jpja/Sweep-XCP-Paperwallet
Also have a look at this video : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=neYqIOKlyus

The most important is to :

Token name: NVST
Amount : have to be the exact amount of tokens (max creates issues sometimes)
BTC mining fees : We advise to set it 0.0008BTC
BTC dust : better leave it as is

If you still experience issues, please join us on slack.

Thank you so much. I see mine now. However, can I transfer them to a wallet once you are done with creating one? Thanks

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August 09, 2017, 03:04:18 PM
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Yet still i haven't received my tokens  Sad
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August 09, 2017, 04:51:22 PM
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Update for NVO : We added two secondary architectures to NVO, we are focusing on NVO. The result of the two other architectures is the decentralization of Coinpayments, which is a decentralized payment processor (maybe the first) and a real decentralized bank, i can't give the name of the project nor give more informations as it is a parallel team. this is why i focus so much on the technology of NVO as it will offer a lot of services in the future.



-Will you be working with shapeshift?

-Does your wallet which acts as entry point of DEX not already in a way behave as a decentralized bank?

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August 10, 2017, 01:58:11 PM
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We processed the third distribution row, most of them are people of sent from exchanges. If you have been contacted by marto(Yani) please check your addresses, you will find your tokens.
If you want to have a better idea about the remaining amount of tokens, please visit : http://nvo.party
This website isn't affiliated to NVO, it have been create by community members.
97% of the tokens are distributed now.





Update for NVO : We added two secondary architectures to NVO, we are focusing on NVO. The result of the two other architectures is the decentralization of Coinpayments, which is a decentralized payment processor (maybe the first) and a real decentralized bank, i can't give the name of the project nor give more informations as it is a parallel team. this is why i focus so much on the technology of NVO as it will offer a lot of services in the future.



-Will you be working with shapeshift?

-Does your wallet which acts as entry point of DEX not already in a way behave as a decentralized bank?



Hello, working with shapeshift ? It will depend of them.
There is a huge difference between a DEX and DexBank, mostly about products, but it is not the time to talk about it.





Yet still i haven't received my tokens  Sad

Recheck, you received them.




I have invested 1 ETH in NVO ICO. When I was Logging in there was 1 ETH in Etherium section. NOW it's 0, can enyone tell me where my ETH is ...


The funds have been consolidated, which means they are stored in a single address instead of several separated addresses. The altcoins are on a pending for exchange state, once done, they will be sent to the escrow address.
The team withdrawed 9% of the bitcoins, this is why the altcoin addresses are empty.


In order to verify your tokens, please search for your personal bitcoin address in https://xchain.io



i cannot swipe the tokens through the xcp wallet im stuck at "mport token funds by "sweeping" them from an external address into an address in this wallet.

Preparing output for transactions chaining"

i need help please!

Hello, you can use an alternative : https://github.com/Jpja/Sweep-XCP-Paperwallet
Also have a look at this video : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=neYqIOKlyus

The most important is to :

Token name: NVST
Amount : have to be the exact amount of tokens (max creates issues sometimes)
BTC mining fees : We advise to set it 0.0008BTC
BTC dust : better leave it as is

If you still experience issues, please join us on slack.

Thank you so much. I see mine now. However, can I transfer them to a wallet once you are done with creating one? Thanks

Yes, it is the objective.
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August 10, 2017, 02:34:22 PM
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are you maybe talking about a polybius or the like, decentralized?

In my opinion, when NVO other projects will be announced you should do a new ico with a NVST ERC20 token,

exchanging old NVST for a fixed amount  and selling also to new investors.


you'll get $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
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August 10, 2017, 04:26:52 PM
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are you maybe talking about a polybius or the like, decentralized?

In my opinion, when NVO other projects will be announced you should do a new ico with a NVST ERC20 token,

exchanging old NVST for a fixed amount  and selling also to new investors.


you'll get $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

Nice idea, but i am totally opposed to the abuse of ERC20 tokens and NVO is enough funded.
Regarding Plybius, i think it is centralized as they ask for KYC. Decentralized means loosing controle, no server, P2P, possible new mining for decentralized banking.

If the launch of NVO goes well, we will have enough from fees.
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August 10, 2017, 04:47:35 PM
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Is this project aiming at being 100% decentralized or are there -as often times- any backdoors for centralization tendencies?


We don't want to be centralized and will try not to leave any backdoor for that, NVST itself will be used for voting too, for example, if NVST holders wants to fire me, they could do it.
The architecture aims at loosing controle, and allowing updates only.



Update for NVO : We added two secondary architectures to NVO, we are focusing on NVO. The result of the

two other architectures is the decentralization of Coinpayments, which is a decentralized

payment processor (maybe the first) and a real decentralized bank, i can't give the name of the project nor give more

informations as it is a parallel team. this is why i focus so much on the technology of NVO as it will offer a lot of services in the future.



A W E S O M E

i see a bright future for NVO, IMHO we'll see NVST explode in the upcoming months

Thanks for your support, it is good that someone can understand the vision of the future of NVO.




I have invested 1 ETH in NVO ICO. When I was Logging in there was 1 ETH in Etherium section. NOW it's 0, can enyone tell me where my ETH is ...

All funds were send to new escrow adresses by Lauda.
API still looks at the old adresses, which currently are empty.

Enter the BTC addres you registered into xchain.io, you should see your NVST.

I have entered my counterwallet BTC address in "personal bitcoin address" column still no sign of tokens.
Where exactly should I be able to see them? 


Please join us on slack.

Ok, that sounds good for now. We will see how far those in control will take the promise of decentralization.

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August 11, 2017, 05:30:28 AM
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Im glad the project is moving forward and sounds like theres a plan in place, Im just still holding my tokens(XCP is terrible with their fees). Is there a marketing team in place to get the word out about the project because you competing with WAVES and BTS on this playing friend and they are pretty advanced with their development. I'm personally all for as many DEX as possible but it would be nice if it was used as much as those two.  Wink

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August 11, 2017, 11:38:34 AM
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Im glad the project is moving forward and sounds like theres a plan in place, Im just still holding my tokens(XCP is terrible with their fees). Is there a marketing team in place to get the word out about the project because you competing with WAVES and BTS on this playing friend and they are pretty advanced with their development. I'm personally all for as many DEX as possible but it would be nice if it was used as much as those two.  Wink

Is this exchange completely functional right now or not? I think that marketing should until exactly the point when the exchange is ready to go live and be publicly used. Then market has the biggest effect for all those investing now.

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August 12, 2017, 09:47:58 AM
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What's up NVO team?

I'm afraid to have to pester your thread but I'm a fan of another project, Enjin, which your own team member NEMGUN has been trolling for about 4 weeks now.
They had to close their original thread because he basically took over it for reasons that I believe have to do with the Enjin team blocking him after things didn't go so well.
So they created a new moderated thread. At that stage NEMGUN not being happy asked Lauda, one of your escrows, to setup a new non moderated thread to troll them even more.

But not only that, he went further and asked Cryptodevil (you guys know who he is right?) to look into the project... Long story short he ended up creating a scam thread.
However no scam has been proven so far, only a lot of nonsense coming from NEMGUN and Cryptodevil trying to find excuses to prove the project is a scam, which he has failed so far.

This is the original Enjin thread that was taken over by NEMGUN: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2028112.0

See how nice and unbiased he's been? Take some time to go through it if you want to know why Enjin created a moderated thread.
They were victims of NEMGUN intelligent posts.  Cheesy

I believe as a team member of a respectable project which raised 7 million in a token sale (NVO), this attitude really stinks, also makes me think that he has a lot of time on his hands to spend trolling other projects rather than help build his own.
I really hope not all of the NVO team members are like that because I'd be worried about the progress of NVO.

Just want to share an extract of what I posted on the scam thread here after his post below which prompted me to have a look at NVO, the token sale and how you guys protect users and the team.
He tries to suggest other teams (that don't want his advise any longer after dealing with him a little) that token sales should protect the users and the team. See below:


I said that the best would be to provide a TOS who protects both the users and the team, as a concern for the users due to the rapid changes in the political scene of the cryptos. As i said, my main concern is about protecting the community while they don't seem to care about them, the crowdsale seems to be built to serve Enjin only.

People like escrows, and old members of the community like Lauda and Cryptodevil are here to protect the community, as a proof, you haven't taken the time to understand the community and the mechanisms, you had to buy an account to post images, you are not even part of this community. So please, try to be more professional and respectfull when you express yourself.

I see your own NVO token sale provided protection for both the users and team right?

https://blockchain.info/address/3AiGej11G8jUXvEBPvQKPLiHXC7ruUCp1Z (NVO Token Sale Escrow Address)

Total Received 3,405.38710067 BTC
Final Balance: 0.00272019 BTC


So where are all the remaining BTC supposed to be released over time after milestones were achieved gone?

From your own thread:

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- 30% release at the end of the crowdsale.
- 30% at the delivery of the beta wallet and first API Cluster
- 30% At the delivery of the Beta Validator
- 10% At the delivery of the plugin system

The funds won't be released until the escrows
agree that a milestone has been reached

I see no BTC left in the escrow address but I don't see the address/es where the remaining BTC are held, I mean for transparency sake you should at least post the wallets containing those coins on the OP.
I see no other escrow address with any BTC available on your thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1917456.0

What happened then? Who's escrowing NVO's BTC now?

The last update on your blog was in June: https://medium.com/nvo-exchange not bad, well done keeping the community informed! Not even a post sale blogpost to say thank you to your contributors.
You raised the money now who cares about releasing some updates right?

How are you protecting both users and team? Come again? I didn't get that...

Cryptodevil, want to look into it? (Joke)

Lauda, you were one of the escrows... Know anything? (Joke #2)

I'm not saying NVO is a scam, but transparency-wise I've seen better, the information above should be clearly shown at least on your thread, website, or a blogpost.
Would be interesting to see the remaining BTC in an address. Look at your own turf before going criticizing someone else's.


I think these are fair questions regarding NVO. Wonder if the information is hidden somewhere, for someone that just learns about NVO today (such as me) and what's available on your website or blog.

I also think you guys should keep an eye on NEMGUN because what he's doing doesn't do NVO any favours.

Have a good day.
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August 12, 2017, 10:10:41 AM
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Welcome to the NVO thread, generally i like to ridiculise people like you, i don't know why you brought this here.
Effectively Enjin is off topic in this thread.

I said that Enjin is a scam, and i proved it different times.

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I see your own NVO token sale provided protection for both the users and team right?

https://blockchain.info/address/3AiGej11G8jUXvEBPvQKPLiHXC7ruUCp1Z (NVO Token Sale Escrow Address)

Total Received 3,405.38710067 BTC
Final Balance: 0.00272019 BTC

It have already been announced :

Informational: BTC funds have been moved to a new address using the same setup as before. The new address is: 3QV4kZtdzE8S2XdYXMbYQrgaJYBfDnypCC.

The rest of the funds, ETH ETC DOGE XRP had been consolidated and they are been exchanged for bitcoin on exchanges, it have been announced.

The Maidsafecoins (held by CPS) haven't been sold, it have been consolidated and kept by CPS as the coin is too fragile for now, it would dump it and it is not our objective.

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- 30% release at the end of the crowdsale.
- 30% at the delivery of the beta wallet and first API Cluster
- 30% At the delivery of the Beta Validator
- 10% At the delivery of the plugin system

The funds won't be released until the escrows
agree that a milestone has been reached

As you can see, the team was supposed to withdraw 30% at the end of the crowdsale, but only 9% have been withdrawn, to tell that the money isn't our main interest and we don't want to play with the investor's funds.

Regarding the github account, yes, it will be empty untill the launch as some people are really interested with the technology and want to use it. I had a lot of contacts with people who wanted to use this technology, and as i said that NVO should keep its advantage, i decided to patent the technology, while keeping it open sourced. It is mostly to avoid doing scams using the project. Alex is in charge of finding the right lawyers for that, and as we partener with CPS, i can definitly tell you it will be decentralized with very interesting technologies, as we said during the crowdsale that we will deliver a plugin for CPS. CPS is already a very good payment processor, but it will be the best one. The target is to be better than paypal as they tax you a lot, and is centralized.

Regarding the withdrawals, the escrows will be able to confirm soon.

Do not insult NVO, Enjin is an ERC20 token, centralized, made to take advantage of the ethereum hype.

I wonder what is the nature of your account, Thread pumping ? troling ? You write like Witek, even on your thread i noticed that Jakob(the bought accont) talks the first, then Witek, then Maxim, you spend your time creating new accounts ?
I advise you to stop ridiculising yourself.
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Welcome to the NVO thread, generally i like to ridiculise people like you, i don't know why you brought this here.
Effectively Enjin is off topic in this thread.

I said that Enjin is a scam, and i proved it different times.

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I see your own NVO token sale provided protection for both the users and team right?

https://blockchain.info/address/3AiGej11G8jUXvEBPvQKPLiHXC7ruUCp1Z (NVO Token Sale Escrow Address)

Total Received 3,405.38710067 BTC
Final Balance: 0.00272019 BTC

It have already been announced :

Informational: BTC funds have been moved to a new address using the same setup as before. The new address is: 3QV4kZtdzE8S2XdYXMbYQrgaJYBfDnypCC.

The rest of the funds, ETH ETC DOGE XRP had been consolidated and they are been exchanged for bitcoin on exchanges, it have been announced.

The Maidsafecoins (held by CPS) haven't been sold, it have been consolidated and kept by CPS as the coin is too fragile for now, it would dump it and it is not our objective.

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- 30% release at the end of the crowdsale.
- 30% at the delivery of the beta wallet and first API Cluster
- 30% At the delivery of the Beta Validator
- 10% At the delivery of the plugin system

The funds won't be released until the escrows
agree that a milestone has been reached

As you can see, the team was supposed to withdraw 30% at the end of the crowdsale, but only 9% have been withdrawn, to tell that the money isn't our main interest and we don't want to play with the investor's funds.

Regarding the github account, yes, it will be empty untill the launch as some people are really interested with the technology and want to use it. I had a lot of contacts with people who wanted to use this technology, and as i said that NVO should keep its advantage, i decided to patent the technology, while keeping it open sourced. It is mostly to avoid doing scams using the project. Alex is in charge of finding the right lawyers for that, and as we partener with CPS, i can definitly tell you it will be decentralized with very interesting technologies, as we said during the crowdsale that we will deliver a plugin for CPS. CPS is already a very good payment processor, but it will be the best one. The target is to be better than paypal as they tax you a lot, and is centralized.

Regarding the withdrawals, the escrows will be able to confirm soon.

Do not insult NVO, Enjin is an ERC20 token, centralized, made to take advantage of the ethereum hype.

I wonder what is the nature of your account, Thread pumping ? troling ? You write like Witek, even on your thread i noticed that Jakob(the bought accont) talks the first, then Witek, then Maxim, you spend your time creating new accounts ?
I advise you to stop ridiculising yourself.

No, I'm just a fan of Enjin, and I see they have been abused by you for 4 weeks now. All I said is true and you can verify it by looking at the original thread and the scam thread.
For who is interested. And no you haven't proved Enjin is a scam, neither has cryptodevil.

As a member of a team that raised 7 million you spend a lot of time trolling one specific project because they blocked you as you have been rude to them and provided very poor advise.

Glad it was announced the NVO funds have moved, so why not post it in the OP or your website, why not post a blogpost since June?
As I mentioned, that address must have been hidden somewhere because it is nowhere to be found on any of your channels.
Care to explain?

And funds are not in the address you mentioned... Shows how much you follow your own project:

https://blockchain.info/address/3QV4kZtdzE8S2XdYXMbYQrgaJYBfDnypCC

But here: https://blockchain.info/address/354jirex7gkFxMiNmN45SxyMxSUsdGcrsf

And are much less than they should be or am I wrong? (most probably I am wrong)

Why all these movements of coins?

You do understand that I just looked at your OP and website and couldn't find this info anywhere?
Transparency NEMGUN, transparency.
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August 12, 2017, 10:28:28 AM
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Simply because everyone is on slack, Ton and Yani are constantly connected and available there, and me i am constantly on Bitcointalk with my lovely community.
They haven't blocked me, they asked me for advises, and i told since the very begining they were going to scam people, read carefully the posts.
Don't try to dillute the informations, at the first contact, when we spoke at 3am i told them they were scamers, the second day they came telling me yes, we checked the blockchains, they said they contacted the stratis team. This is why i decided to reply again.

Witek was in a plain when i spoke to him, he was very excited by the ideas we spoke about, he was supposed to meet Ton, but after that they dissapeared, dilluted the ideas i gave using an ERC20 token.
Can you understand when someone tells you, yes i want to take advantage of the ethereum hype.

When you ask if it is to develop something, he don't know what to say, this is why i said that Enjin is a scam, as on the development  side, the responses have been poor. I know that Ethereum is a huge technology, they took a tiny shard of it, just the ERC20 feature, the original objective was 50M$, to do what ? To list a token on their platform, saying that they won't bother with the decentralized nature of the token while providing a semi-centralized solution to use it is a poor explanation.

Listing a token on an exchange isn't expencive, but to list their token on their platform costs millions of dollars, is it normal ? Enjin is a scam because of this behaviour.
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Simply because everyone is on slack, Ton and Yani are constantly connected and available there, and me i am constantly on Bitcointalk with my lovely community.
They haven't blocked me, they asked me for advises, and i told since the very begining they were going to scam people, read carefully the posts.
Don't try to dillute the informations, at the first contact, when we spoke at 3am i told them they were scamers, the second day they came telling me yes, we checked the blockchains, they said they contacted the stratis team. This is why i decided to reply again.

Witek was in a plain when i spoke to him, he was very excited by the ideas we spoke about, he was supposed to meet Ton, but after that they dissapeared, dilluted the ideas i gave using an ERC20 token.
Can you understand when someone tells you, yes i want to take advantage of the ethereum hype.

When you ask if it is to develop something, he don't know what to say, this is why i said that Enjin is a scam, as on the development  side, the responses have been poor. I know that Ethereum is a huge technology, they took a tiny shard of it, just the ERC20 feature, the original objective was 50M$, to do what ? To list a token on their platform, saying that they won't bother with the decentralized nature of the token while providing a semi-centralized solution to use it is a poor explanation.

Listing a token on an exchange isn't expencive, but to list their token on their platform costs millions of dollars, is it normal ? Enjin is a scam because of this behaviour.

That's your opinion and the team heard it several times, gosh I keep hearing it every day almost, not only the team... everyone who follows and supports them too.
Do you realize that you are not doing anyone any favours, and that you are acting like a child instead of taking care of your own projects. You didn't even post the right escrow address above.

I worry about you NEMGUN (not really), you are losing your face in front of the community by being obtuse and pushing for suggestions the team doesn't care about. They have made their mind up and they are happy with Ethereum and it will work way better for them than possibly a simple Counterparty token that requires no development (NVO Token). You guys found the cheapest and easiest way to create a token.

I only came here to show your other team members what you have been doing and your community too.
If I were the CEO at NVO I would not tolerate such an attitude from my own team member.

You got lots to do and build, give it a rest, Enjin has their own project to build, let them be.

You see you are so distracted by attacking Enjin that you don't even update your own OP or website with the right escrow address.
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August 12, 2017, 10:55:37 AM
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Simply because everyone is on slack, Ton and Yani are constantly connected and available there, and me i am constantly on Bitcointalk with my lovely community.
They haven't blocked me, they asked me for advises, and i told since the very begining they were going to scam people, read carefully the posts.
Don't try to dillute the informations, at the first contact, when we spoke at 3am i told them they were scamers, the second day they came telling me yes, we checked the blockchains, they said they contacted the stratis team. This is why i decided to reply again.

Witek was in a plain when i spoke to him, he was very excited by the ideas we spoke about, he was supposed to meet Ton, but after that they dissapeared, dilluted the ideas i gave using an ERC20 token.
Can you understand when someone tells you, yes i want to take advantage of the ethereum hype.

When you ask if it is to develop something, he don't know what to say, this is why i said that Enjin is a scam, as on the development  side, the responses have been poor. I know that Ethereum is a huge technology, they took a tiny shard of it, just the ERC20 feature, the original objective was 50M$, to do what ? To list a token on their platform, saying that they won't bother with the decentralized nature of the token while providing a semi-centralized solution to use it is a poor explanation.

Listing a token on an exchange isn't expencive, but to list their token on their platform costs millions of dollars, is it normal ? Enjin is a scam because of this behaviour.

That's your opinion and the team heard it several times, gosh I keep hearing it every day almost, not only the team... everyone who follows and supports them too.
Do you realize that you are not doing anyone any favours, and that you are acting like a child instead of taking care of your own projects. You didn't even post the right escrow address above.

I worry about you NEMGUN (not really), you are losing your face in front of the community by being obtuse and pushing for suggestions the team doesn't care about. They have made their mind up and they are happy with Ethereum and it will work way better for them than possibly a simple Counterparty token that requires no development (NVO Token). You guys found the cheapest and easiest way to create a token.

I only came here to show your other team members what you have been doing and your community too.
If I were the CEO at NVO I would not tolerate such an attitude from my own team member.

You got lots to do and build, give it a rest, Enjin has their own project to build, let them be.

You see you are so distracted by attacking Enjin that you don't even update your own OP or website with the right escrow address.
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I said the escrows will confirm the information later. However, you will excuse me if i ignore you, you don't know what you are talking about, maybe you are maxim, because you think like him, a newbie in the cryptoworld who doesn't know what he is talking about.
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Simply because everyone is on slack, Ton and Yani are constantly connected and available there, and me i am constantly on Bitcointalk with my lovely community.
They haven't blocked me, they asked me for advises, and i told since the very begining they were going to scam people, read carefully the posts.
Don't try to dillute the informations, at the first contact, when we spoke at 3am i told them they were scamers, the second day they came telling me yes, we checked the blockchains, they said they contacted the stratis team. This is why i decided to reply again.

Witek was in a plain when i spoke to him, he was very excited by the ideas we spoke about, he was supposed to meet Ton, but after that they dissapeared, dilluted the ideas i gave using an ERC20 token.
Can you understand when someone tells you, yes i want to take advantage of the ethereum hype.

When you ask if it is to develop something, he don't know what to say, this is why i said that Enjin is a scam, as on the development  side, the responses have been poor. I know that Ethereum is a huge technology, they took a tiny shard of it, just the ERC20 feature, the original objective was 50M$, to do what ? To list a token on their platform, saying that they won't bother with the decentralized nature of the token while providing a semi-centralized solution to use it is a poor explanation.

Listing a token on an exchange isn't expencive, but to list their token on their platform costs millions of dollars, is it normal ? Enjin is a scam because of this behaviour.

That's your opinion and the team heard it several times, gosh I keep hearing it every day almost, not only the team... everyone who follows and supports them too.
Do you realize that you are not doing anyone any favours, and that you are acting like a child instead of taking care of your own projects. You didn't even post the right escrow address above.

I worry about you NEMGUN (not really), you are losing your face in front of the community by being obtuse and pushing for suggestions the team doesn't care about. They have made their mind up and they are happy with Ethereum and it will work way better for them than possibly a simple Counterparty token that requires no development (NVO Token). You guys found the cheapest and easiest way to create a token.

I only came here to show your other team members what you have been doing and your community too.
If I were the CEO at NVO I would not tolerate such an attitude from my own team member.

You got lots to do and build, give it a rest, Enjin has their own project to build, let them be.

You see you are so distracted by attacking Enjin that you don't even update your own OP or website with the right escrow address.
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I said the escrows will confirm the information later. However, you will excuse me if i ignore you, you don't know what you are talking about, maybe you are maxim, because you think like him, a newbie in the cryptoworld who doesn't know what he is talking about.

After someone mentions it (me today) then you get escrows to update your community... Good job.
It should have been in the OP in the first place, but you are so busy trolling other projects that you got no time for that.

It's not the escrows fault, they are reputable members of this forum, especially Blazed and MinerJones, just look at their clean trust feedback.
Lauda is easily manipulated by you so I have my reservations and his trust ain't so clean. Not that he is a scammer, but he is a bit of a controversial character.

STOP ATTACKING OTHER PROJECTS AND TRY TO DO A GOOD JOB WITH YOUR OWN.
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August 12, 2017, 11:35:39 AM
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Blazed and Minerjones are excellent escrows, you can't say that Lauda is easily manipulated, never bring him down again. It is just that Lauda unveiled a lot of scam projects, this is why many people doesn't appreciate him.

The address is updated on the website. But as we haven't finished exchanging the other coins, we wait to get the final result to announce it publicly.

Feel free to verify it : 354jirex7gkFxMiNmN45SxyMxSUsdGcrsf

For the rest, i came from bitcointalk, i am a bitcointalk member, i was a bitcointalk member a long time before been engaged into NVO, i am feeling home here, i know that many projects came to bitcointalk, made money, and went out.

Also, when i work, i use a computer, bitcointalk is constantly open so it doesn't bother with my time. I also have friends on the forum with whom we exchange about different issues using PMs, so i have to check it often.
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Blazed and Minerjones are excellent escrows, you can't say that Lauda is easily manipulated, never bring him down again. It is just that Lauda unveiled a lot of scam projects, this is why many people doesn't appreciate him.

The address is updated on the website. But as we haven't finished exchanging the other coins, we wait to get the final result to announce it publicly.

Feel free to verify it : 354jirex7gkFxMiNmN45SxyMxSUsdGcrsf

For the rest, i came from bitcointalk, i am a bitcointalk member, i was a bitcointalk member a long time before been engaged into NVO, i am feeling home here, i know that many projects came to bitcointalk, made money, and went out.

Also, when i work, i use a computer, bitcointalk is constantly open so it doesn't bother with my time. I also have friends on the forum with whom we exchange about different issues using PMs, so i have to check it often.

Ok I take it back about Lauda, I don't know him so it's not fair for me to assume what I just said. Also haven't been around the forum so long, and I guess you know more about the trust than me.
All I'm saying use your time to be constructive on the forum, attacking other projects for no reason apart from personal issues doesn't seem well spent time.

Not sure how old you are but surely and hopefully you'll grow out of this urge to pester Enjin. If it was a scam I'd understand but it ain't.
It's just sad to see.

Thanks for adding the escrow address to the website, you should also thank me for the reminder haha  Cheesy
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August 12, 2017, 12:27:30 PM
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Blazed and Minerjones are excellent escrows, you can't say that Lauda is easily manipulated, never bring him down again. It is just that Lauda unveiled a lot of scam projects, this is why many people doesn't appreciate him.

The address is updated on the website. But as we haven't finished exchanging the other coins, we wait to get the final result to announce it publicly.

Feel free to verify it : 354jirex7gkFxMiNmN45SxyMxSUsdGcrsf

For the rest, i came from bitcointalk, i am a bitcointalk member, i was a bitcointalk member a long time before been engaged into NVO, i am feeling home here, i know that many projects came to bitcointalk, made money, and went out.

Also, when i work, i use a computer, bitcointalk is constantly open so it doesn't bother with my time. I also have friends on the forum with whom we exchange about different issues using PMs, so i have to check it often.

Ok I take it back about Lauda, I don't know him so it's not fair for me to assume what I just said. Also haven't been around the forum so long, and I guess you know more about the trust than me.
All I'm saying use your time to be constructive on the forum, attacking other projects for no reason apart from personal issues doesn't seem well spent time.

Not sure how old you are but surely and hopefully you'll grow out of this urge to pester Enjin. If it was a scam I'd understand but it ain't.
It's just sad to see.

Thanks for adding the escrow address to the website, you should also thank me for the reminder haha  Cheesy


The website have been updated a long time ago regarding the address, when it have been announced.

Have fun newbie enjin team scam supporter.
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