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[DavidMc0]

Could you please join us on slack and transmit it to @marto or @tonbi to confirm it.

Will do - thanks.

Although I've lost confidence & strongly dislike the way you have conducted yourself, I still wish you all the best and hope that there have just been some misunderstandings and a few lost tempers that led to the unfortunate exchange on the Safe forum.

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[crypt0kid]

People should give the dev team a bit of time to put out a product. Too much panic and FUD taking place. I like the project and I finally figured out how to put a buy order in on Counterparty. As soon as I can get some more fiat converted to crypto, I plan to buy a bunch more.

The primary reason that this price is so low is due to it being traded on Counterparty. That platformed is so non-user-friendly that's I'm surprised that anyone actually figured out how to use. Had you guys used Waves platform instead, you would have a much better price and a much easier platform to maneuver. I was so frustrated that I almost gave up, but then I realized that if I'm having this much difficulty, a lot of other are probably experiencing the same frustration. I know that when this token gets listed on other exchanges, it's going to skyrocket. Even EtherDelta, which I haven't tried to use yet, is probably easier to maneuver than Counterparty.The whole issue with different addresses within CounterParty not being able to communicate and not being able to transfer funds from address to another within CounterParty is absurd. My thoughts are if a discombobulated contraption like CounterParty can exist and be worth nearly $10, NVO should be able to blow that figure out of the water. Not to mention, NVO only issued 15 million tokens.

Instead of trying to get listed on Bittrex and Polo, why not start with Cryptopia and then work your way up?

[Knepala]

People should give the dev team a bit of time to put out a product. Too much panic and FUD taking place. I like the project and I finally figured out how to put a buy order in on Counterparty. As soon as I can get some more fiat converted to crypto, I plan to buy a bunch more.

The primary reason that this price is so low is due to it being traded on Counterparty. That platformed is so non-user-friendly that's I'm surprised that anyone actually figured out how to use. Had you guys used Waves platform instead, you would have a much better price and a much easier platform to maneuver. I was so frustrated that I almost gave up, but then I realized that if I'm having this much difficulty, a lot of other are probably experiencing the same frustration. I know that when this token gets listed on other exchanges, it's going to skyrocket. Even EtherDelta, which I haven't tried to use yet, is probably easier to maneuver than Counterparty.The whole issue with different addresses within CounterParty not being able to communicate and not being able to transfer funds from address to another within CounterParty is absurd. My thoughts are if a discombobulated contraption like CounterParty can exist and be worth nearly $10, NVO should be able to blow that figure out of the water. Not to mention, NVO only issued 15 million tokens.

Instead of trying to get listed on Bittrex and Polo, why not start with Cryptopia and then work your way up?

Counterparty DEX is just horrible. I have tried placing four or five BTC/NVST orders before realising they disabled the 'BTC_pay' function so the transactions can't go trough. But it took transaction fees everytime anyway, costing me about 12 dollars before finding a hidden blogpost somewhere clarifying that you should get XCP on another exchange and send it to counterparty. Finnaly, my XCP/NVST order did go trough.
Why the hell don't they just disable all the BTC pairs on their exchange then...

Anyway, I don't think a fallout with maidsafe is a reason to bail out just yet. I'm holding on to my NVST.

[Pezso]

if this really will works then it will be huge. a multi-coin-hd wallet and a marketplace inside one app. you will be able to delete a lot of wallets and a lot of blockchains stored on your computer. wallet that you only have because you don't want to store the coins an polo, bittrex or other exchanges.

[thesavoyard]

if this really will works then it will be huge. a multi-coin-hd wallet and a marketplace inside one app. you will be able to delete a lot of wallets and a lot of blockchains stored on your computer. wallet that you only have because you don't want to store the coins an polo, bittrex or other exchanges.

Also, from what I understand, the Devs of coins can add their wallet. No need to ask an exchange to list it. With all that's going on in the Us with BTC-E, exchanges are becoming dangerous. Bittrex and Poloniex are not safe. I want to move my coins to a 256 encrypted, blockchain supported exchange ASAP.

But thank you US government for assuring NVO will thrive.

[sgtwiggles]

Could you please join us on slack and transmit it to @marto or @tonbi to confirm it.

Will do - thanks.

Although I've lost confidence & strongly dislike the way you have conducted yourself, I still wish you all the best and hope that there have just been some misunderstandings and a few lost tempers that led to the unfortunate exchange on the Safe forum.

There is already a fully working DX. The Blocknet.   You can already trade like 10 coins wallet to wallet with atomic exchange with no middleman.  You can use it now.

[thesavoyard]

Could you please join us on slack and transmit it to @marto or @tonbi to confirm it.

Will do - thanks.

Although I've lost confidence & strongly dislike the way you have conducted yourself, I still wish you all the best and hope that there have just been some misunderstandings and a few lost tempers that led to the unfortunate exchange on the Safe forum.

There is already a fully working DX. The Blocknet.   You can already trade like 10 coins wallet to wallet with atomic exchange with no middleman.  You can use it now.

I thought it was still a non-functioning model?

[sgtwiggles]

Check out these trade videos of different coin pairs.

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCCDBoR9fHb21bLH7FGvFrQg

Its in testnet right now. Moving to live in the next 2 weeks I think.

[bitabit]

is NVO working on the same type of project as Safe Exchange?  What is the main difference between the two?

I remember the Maidsafe community supporting Safe Exchange to a point that critics were kicked out of the forum.  Why is the community acting differently towards NVO?

[nemgun]

is NVO working on the same type of project as Safe Exchange?  What is the main difference between the two?

I remember the Maidsafe community supporting Safe Exchange to a point that critics were kicked out of the forum.  Why is the community acting differently towards NVO?

To be honest, I have no idea about this project. For now, i know only about one interesting technology in this field which is Bitshares. However we will use a different technology, will it be open osurce ? yes, but it will be patented to avoid bad manipulations.

[wiked1]

Counterparty market is shyte.Volume is pathetic and its also a buggy platform.Should have used waves platform.When can you trade this on a decent exchange with volume?

[Jabbawa]

is NVO working on the same type of project as Safe Exchange?  What is the main difference between the two?

I remember the Maidsafe community supporting Safe Exchange to a point that critics were kicked out of the forum.  Why is the community acting differently towards NVO?

Nah, SAFE exchange decided to go blockchain well over a year ago, they have nothing to do with maidsafe or safe network, despite the name. I think the one he built (it's just one young dude I think) is called chilli blockchain or something, I'm not sure. Their project is also a marketplace more than currency exchange, or both at least. More like openbazaa. Safe Exchange also raised like $50k for their market, NVO raised $7m and has a full team of devs. I don't think the two projects are very similar. There was a lot more potential for success in NVO right from the start and the goals were very different.

I expect there will be several exchanges built on SAFE though, probably lots of SAFE based crypto's too... if it all works that is.

Glad we can put it behind us Nemgun.

[pille]

Why there has been issued an additional 15.000.000 units, totalling in 30.000.000 NVST ?

[nemgun]

is NVO working on the same type of project as Safe Exchange?  What is the main difference between the two?

I remember the Maidsafe community supporting Safe Exchange to a point that critics were kicked out of the forum.  Why is the community acting differently towards NVO?

Nah, SAFE exchange decided to go blockchain well over a year ago, they have nothing to do with maidsafe or safe network, despite the name. I think the one he built (it's just one young dude I think) is called chilli blockchain or something, I'm not sure. Their project is also a marketplace more than currency exchange, or both at least. More like openbazaa. Safe Exchange also raised like $50k for their market, NVO raised $7m and has a full team of devs. I don't think the two projects are very similar. There was a lot more potential for success in NVO right from the start and the goals were very different.

I expect there will be several exchanges built on SAFE though, probably lots of SAFE based crypto's too... if it all works that is.

Glad we can put it behind us Nemgun.

Thank you Jabba for putting things in order, and especially for telling me that SAFEex is Chile coin, I heard about it, it is a shit that was on icostart, they tried to make an ICO scam of blackcoin, fortunately they closed.

So from the beginning I have been insulted by the SAFE community without even realizing it ?

If SAFEex is really related to chili coin, you can tell him goodbye, it will never exist.

Thank you very much for clarifying things Jabba.

Why there has been issued an additional 15.000.000 units, totalling in 30.000.000 NVST ?

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Yes there was a bug during the creation of the tokens, it resulted in the creation of an additional 15M coins, they have been sent to a burn address.
Please check this link : https://xchain.io/asset/NVST
Click on "Holders"
The 15M surplus have been sent to that BURN address : 1BURNXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXTVanmh

Counterparty market is shyte.Volume is pathetic and its also a buggy platform.Should have used waves platform.When can you trade this on a decent exchange with volume?

There was a lot of confusion recently with the Bitcoin blockchain, however, i am sure that we will get some news during the next few days.
XCP and Bitcoin withdrawals have been disabled by several exchanges, it would have been the same for NVST, we will communicate as soon as we have more informations.

[888cj]

Welcome to the forum, are you an investor to say that the investors want to be refunded ?

Thanks for the welcome, even if I've been a member of this forum for about 3 years longer than you have.

Yes I am an investor. As you've said that NVO will offer refunds to investors who want one, can I please request a refund because I've lost all confidence in the NVO team based on the discussion in the MaidSafe forum?

Can you please arrange a refund for my investment of around 0.25 BTC? I can PM details if you're willing to refund me, or should I contact Tonbi, who told people on the MaidSafe forum that he won't offer any more refunds & people should use the counterparty DEX to exit (which is now at a significant loss)?

Please let me know how to get a refund from NVO.

I invested in NVO largely to support the building out of the SafeNetwork. I have lost confidence in the NVO team. The communication from the NVO team I've seen on the Safe Forum (see link below) was unprofessional at best and disturbing at worst.
https://safenetforum.org/t/nvo-decentralized-exchange-crowdsale/13608/969


If refunds are available I would like to opt out of the NVO project.

[migello]

vested in NVO largely to support the building out of the SafeNetwork. I have lost confidence in the NVO team. The communication from the NVO team I've seen on the Safe Forum (see link below) was unprofessional at best and disturbing at worst.
https://safenetforum.org/t/nvo-decentralized-exchange-crowdsale/13608/969


If refunds are available I would like to opt out of the NVO project.

a project launched 1 month ago and they are hiring a team, offered help, devs, maybe money and someone is complaining? read between

the FUD, you can question the words, lack of professionalism and arrogance, but i don't see the SAFE will to help.

are we kidding?


if you are a REAL NVO investor and supporter maybe you could be ashamed by nemgun but ANGRY by the SAFE answers...

just tell NVO what you lack and what they can do to help you and the project, then agree to help with what they need if

you are fine.


if you don't believe in the project, people ecc (hey they can hire who they want with $7 mill) just tell them no.



you have invested in NVO to support SAFE? why haven't you bought Maidsafecoins instead?

in the whitepaper is stated that SAFE might not be used. have you read?


BTW cheap NVST for us 

[nemgun]

vested in NVO largely to support the building out of the SafeNetwork. I have lost confidence in the NVO team. The communication from the NVO team I've seen on the Safe Forum (see link below) was unprofessional at best and disturbing at worst.
https://safenetforum.org/t/nvo-decentralized-exchange-crowdsale/13608/969


If refunds are available I would like to opt out of the NVO project.

a project launched 1 month ago and they are hiring a team, offered help, devs, maybe money and someone is complaining? read between

the FUD, you can question the words, lack of professionalism and arrogance, but i don't see the SAFE will to help.

are we kidding?


if you are a REAL NVO investor and supporter maybe you could be ashamed by nemgun but ANGRY by the SAFE answers...

just tell NVO what you lack and what they can do to help you and the project, then agree to help with what they need if

you are fine.


if you don't believe in the project, people ecc (hey they can hire who they want with $7 mill) just tell them no.



you have invested in NVO to support SAFE? why haven't you bought Maidsafecoins instead?

in the whitepaper is stated that SAFE might not be used. have you read?

Thank you migello for your support and assistance, at the moment we only had 3 requests for refund, one who had personnal issues and therefore asked to be refunded, the second was worried about the Chinese laws and the recent events, and the third one wanted to take advantage of the split to claim BCH.

They want to pollute the thread on bitcointalk, these little trolls, just because they have a problem with the money, some have been annoyed by the 8 millions collected during the crowdsale. They just want to try to force investors to ask for refunds, but it doesn't work, there was a dump issue on counterpart due to the split.

You can check the counterpart DEX, the volume is pretty well, and the price goes up. If you notice, most of these links points towards the moments when I get down with the insults, I asked for documents and I've been asked to dig, I have endured many things.

In their mind, maidsafe is so immense that there cannot be an architecture, so it is necessary to make podcasts and several whitepapers while everything must have a global architecture, even if it is a simple "ULM" architecture.

For them there are so many buildings that can not be summarized on a simple architecture, whereas in this case it is necessary to make an architecture in order to be able to keep track of the functionalities of each building.

They told me to go on their github and that from there, I could see the structure, and yet even their github lack organization. They have switched from safe_launcher to safe_browser, but the safe_launcher repo is still there while they have an archieving account.

[Nalien]

So, what is going on with the BCC fork? Do I have NVO "Cash" now on my forked wallet? >.>

[bittick]

ok this is it.
thanks to how nemgun conducts himself in public forums is the sole reason I am out of this project.
I have not seen such language from any other ICO leader.
If you have nothing positive to say  - stfu. just my two cents.
This goes for Jabba also.
Good luck to all.

[bittick]

So, what is going on with the BCC fork? Do I have NVO "Cash" now on my forked wallet? >.>

No, The devs keep BCC to themselves. it was never part of the equation of their ICO. They just got lucky.