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May 20, 2017, 06:04:10 PM
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These are just some common misconceptions that people have about evolution..<YES YOU.. Grin

We change because we need to eat or the weather or not to be eaten ..
If all was good be no need to change..<Evolution the need to survive ..

200 million years
Crocodiles are the ultimate survivors. Having arisen some 200 million years ago, they have outlived the dinosaurs by some 65 million years. Even humans, the most fearsome predators ever to stalk the Earth, have failed to force into extinction any of the 23 species of crocodilians.

Why is a human black or white ..
Answer the weather black helps you in the sun..
White helps you in the cold..

The reason why you don't notice it now is because the changes we know now, happened across very long period of time. Roll Eyes

Humans Are Speeding Up Evolution - YouTube
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Baby evolution - YouTube
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With the exception of the platypus and echidna, mammals provide the ... Birds can lay their eggs in even drier environments than reptiles, because when the fatty .

 Ape is not much different than a human..

But just lets remember that evolution is a fact as someone said plenty of evolution happening all around us   just need to take the time to look..

Even science evolution..Finger prints now DNA ..

Science evolution is human evolution it makes us survive better..

Evolution the need to change to make us live better..




If you're going to accuse me of being wrong, I'd like you to quote the parts that I got wrong, so I can know what you're talking about. Everything you wrote here has nothing to do with what I wrote and your one liners might fool someone, but to me they look just sad.

I could teach you about evolution and biology as much as I want (since it's my major), but to save some time I'll give you one more example to show how flawed your logic is.
Teleostei are the largest group of vertebrates by numbers and most of them fall pray to other animals or themselves, which shows your logic behind an apex predator (crocodile) quite stupid. Same story on the other hand, Placodermi (among other extinct animals) were fierce and huge predators that faced extinction because of many other factors. So it's not about whether you eat or are eaten.

"But just lets remember that evolution is a fact as someone said plenty of evolution happening all around us   just need to take the time to look.." at this point I ask myself if you even read my post, because I was the one who said something similar to that. Are you sure you wanted to reply to my post?

EDIT: I just noticed why you might think that I wasn't on your side. When I said "misconceptions" I meant I tried to explain the common misconceptions in my post, not just note them. So the four lines "-" were my try to explain the misconceptions, not note them. Sorry, for that, I see why you lashed out on me.
Anyway, I did get a good write out of it.
So it's not about whether you eat or are eaten. <OH YES IT IS..And it also about the weather .Cold hot wet windy..< will make life change .

The giant anteater and termites - YouTube
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Designed that way through evolution to eat ants and termites..<giant anteater long sticky tongue designed to catch termites and ants..

Aye-aye eating - YouTube
Video for grub eater▶ 0:47
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kpkXHX_7ju0

Designed that way through evolution to eat grubs..< Long skinny finger to catch grubs..



Evolution is very smart. Evolution is way smarter than people. Nobody can design life in the complex way evolution does. Perhaps the word "evolution" is just another word for "God."

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May 20, 2017, 06:05:45 PM
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Nature = god

I can definitely accept this.

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May 20, 2017, 06:13:58 PM
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Nature = god

I can definitely accept this.

Two big points against this idea are:

1. Nature doesn't show us a reason or method for making the complexity.

2. There is way too much variety of intelligent-looking complexities right along side seeming lack of intelligence to blame the universe for only one, but not the other.

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May 20, 2017, 06:21:52 PM
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I could teach you about evolution and biology as much as I want (since it's my major), but to save some time I'll give you one more example to show how flawed your logic is.
Teleostei are the largest group of vertebrates by numbers and most of them fall pray to other animals or themselves, which shows your logic behind an apex predator (crocodile) quite stupid. Same story on the other hand, Placodermi (among other extinct animals) were fierce and huge predators that faced extinction because of many other factors. So it's not about whether you eat or are eaten.

I could teach you about evolution..<Not doing a very good job it looks like i am doing all the teaching Cheesy.

A tortoise as a shell why?..
So for it to have a shell what must of happened?..

So it evolved a shell to do WHAT?..

Evolution was brought about because someone never believed a man like being went zap and all was so..
So evolution proved that god is make believe ..

And this is why the religious freaks try to deny evolution ..

Evolution is fact ..
And space is full of life Wink..

Don't get upset i still love you even though your right on somethings but wrong on some other things..

Like the tortoise and the anteater .. Wink
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May 20, 2017, 06:28:31 PM
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What are you even on about?
When did I say evolution is a hoax or that the "eat or be eaten" and climate don't play the role in evolution?

You, sir, are an empty bucket that keeps staying the same no matter what gets poured into it. Try to read what I actually write and then come up with a decent reply.

All that, of course, if you are not a troll, which I find hard to believe to be true. This is where are discussion ends. Until you learn to read and construct proper replies, don't bother writing.
Keep believing that you're doing the teaching here, when you're just rolling around the same thing you said at the start.

Pointless typing just to gain activity? Okay, just give me a hint next time.
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May 20, 2017, 06:39:17 PM
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Nature = god

I can definitely accept this.

Two big points against this idea are:

1. Nature doesn't show us a reason or method for making the complexity.

2. There is way too much variety of intelligent-looking complexities right along side seeming lack of intelligence to blame the universe for only one, but not the other.

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1. Why does there need to be a reason? The whole theory is that evolution is an random process, it has no consciousness or reason for the way it shapes organisms. It is simply down to random mutations. When a star goes supernova, is there a reason it does so (other than the physical processes ocurring in its core)? If not, could those same physical processes not be responsible for mutations in DNA?

2. If you believe there is too much variety of intelligent life, alongside organisms with seeming lack of intelligence, then what are you measuring this data against? It doesn't make sense to compare life on Earth to any other data set, because we haven't ever observed any other form of life.

So when you say "too much variety", what are you comparing this variety to?

Guess I'll make that my sig, all the cool kids have one...
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May 20, 2017, 06:46:06 PM
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Nature = god

I can definitely accept this.

Two big points against this idea are:

1. Nature doesn't show us a reason or method for making the complexity.

2. There is way too much variety of intelligent-looking complexities right along side seeming lack of intelligence to blame the universe for only one, but not the other.

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Nature = god=kill to eat or be eaten..

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So if god is true he is one evil thing..
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May 20, 2017, 06:46:30 PM
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^^ I have a feeling there are epic posters on this thread, bringing about a r-evolution.  Smiley


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Nature = god

I can definitely accept this.

Two big points against this idea are:

1. Nature doesn't show us a reason or method for making the complexity.

2. There is way too much variety of intelligent-looking complexities right along side seeming lack of intelligence to blame the universe for only one, but not the other.

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1. Why does there need to be a reason? The whole theory is that evolution is an random process, it has no consciousness or reason for the way it shapes organisms. It is simply down to random mutations. When a star goes supernova, is there a reason it does so (other than the physical processes ocurring in its core)? If not, could those same physical processes not be responsible for mutations in DNA?

2. If you believe there is too much variety of intelligent life, alongside organisms with seeming lack of intelligence, then what are you measuring this data against? It doesn't make sense to compare life on Earth to any other data set, because we haven't ever observed any other form of life.

So when you say "too much variety", what are you comparing this variety to?
When a star goes supernova, is there a reason it does so ..Yes

What Is A Supernova? - YouTube
Video for why a supernova youtube▶ 2:09
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QfNqBKAvkpw

Always a reason ..
Why does someone have blue eyes ..

Why Do You Have Blue Eyes? - YouTube
Video for why do people have blue eyes youtube▶ 2:28
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qfSfNIzN7q8


 It doesn't make sense to compare life on Earth to any other data set, because we haven't ever observed any other form of life.

7 amazing new species discovered in 2016 - YouTube
Video for new species found on earth youtube▶ 1:58
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New species found 2017 - YouTube
Video for new species found on earth youtube▶ 2:53
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Butterfly species evolution in action - YouTube
Video for evolution in action▶ 3:03
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Evolution in Action: Ring Species - YouTube
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May 20, 2017, 07:25:48 PM
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@popcorn

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Hot-head and you are both pro evolution.

Look at the words "physical process" in protokols post and understand it in the context.

@good&evil god

We only know from certain books (he is pretty evil in the Old Testament) and the religious leaderships that god is good, caring etc pp.


God could be really evil and humanity with all its cruelsome stuff could just be a weird comedy show to him.

Anyway i seriously doubt that god is something like a person or rather i have a completely different understanding of a/the god entity in relation to most people who believe in god.

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May 21, 2017, 12:02:44 AM
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@popcorn

Dont light a fat joint before you login into bct  Cheesy

Hot-head and you are both pro evolution.

Look at the words "physical process" in protokols post and understand it in the context.

@good&evil god

We only know from certain books (he is pretty evil in the Old Testament) and the religious leaderships that god is good, caring etc pp.


God could be really evil and humanity with all its cruelsome stuff could just be a weird comedy show to him.

Anyway i seriously doubt that god is something like a person or rather i have a completely different understanding of a/the god entity in relation to most people who believe in god.

Of course, when these guys remain pro-religion, at the same time science proves evolution to be a hoax, these guys simply have a religion in evolution.

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May 21, 2017, 06:20:34 AM
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What are you even on about?
When did I say evolution is a hoax or that the "eat or be eaten" and climate don't play the role in evolution?

You, sir, are an empty bucket that keeps staying the same no matter what gets poured into it. Try to read what I actually write and then come up with a decent reply.

All that, of course, if you are not a troll, which I find hard to believe to be true. This is where are discussion ends. Until you learn to read and construct proper replies, don't bother writing.
Keep believing that you're doing the teaching here, when you're just rolling around the same thing you said at the start.

Pointless typing just to gain activity? Okay, just give me a hint next time.
Did you quote this?..

I could teach you about evolution and biology as much as I want (since it's my major), but to save some time I'll give you one more example to show how flawed your logic is.
Teleostei are the largest group of vertebrates by numbers and most of them fall pray to other animals or themselves, which shows your logic behind an apex predator (crocodile) quite stupid. Same story on the other hand, Placodermi (among other extinct animals) were fierce and huge predators that faced extinction because of many other factors.                 So it's not about whether you eat or are eaten.

So it's not about whether you eat or are eaten.<YOUR QUOTE Wink..

So i said why does a tortoise have a shell?.. So why does a tortoise have a shell ^^^^^

Why as an anteater got a long nose with a long sticky tongue?..

YOUR QUOTE BELOW..
I could teach you about evolution and biology as much as I want (since it's my major), but to save some time I'll give you one more example to show how flawed your logic is.

So why does a tortoise have a shell?..

YOUR QUOTE BELOW..
So it's not about whether you eat or are eaten.  <TORTOISE as a shell WHY

So it's not about whether you eat or are eaten.< ANTEATER as a long nose with a long sticky tongue why..

Some things wont change because they might have many numbers so if a few die it means nothing
to that specie ..

But you will find most changes will happen to eat or not to be eaten or the weather ..
All will make you change..

Even a birds wings change because of the wind..
Some like to ride the wind some like to cut through the wind..

All changes because of your need to live..

So it's not about whether you eat or are eaten.<YOU SAID IT not me Wink..

It's OK i pardon you Grin Cheesy



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May 21, 2017, 06:30:11 AM
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@popcorn

Dont light a fat joint before you login into bct  Cheesy

Hot-head and you are both pro evolution.

Look at the words "physical process" in protokols post and understand it in the context.

@good&evil god

We only know from certain books (he is pretty evil in the Old Testament) and the religious leaderships that god is good, caring etc pp.


God could be really evil and humanity with all its cruelsome stuff could just be a weird comedy show to him.

Anyway i seriously doubt that god is something like a person or rather i have a completely different understanding of a/the god entity in relation to most people who believe in god.
Now criptix my pretend Germany enemy  Cheesy.I love you really .. Grin

This is the problem..Your quote below..

Anyway i seriously doubt that god is something like a person or rather i have a completely different understanding of a/the god entity in relation to most people who believe in god.

So now you just made up your own god..
So now it comes to the point if no one ever told you about god  I.E a man like being that went zap
and everything was here     the world and what not  how would you imagine your god then?.

You know god because you was told by a human now because of science your making your own god up..

SO WHO IS STONED ME OR YOU Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy..

i have a completely different understanding of a/the god entity in relation to most people who believe in god.<YOU SAID IT not me..

Do you have a goblin under your bed..I DO Cheesy

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May 21, 2017, 08:58:18 AM
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Nature = god

I can definitely accept this.

Two big points against this idea are:

1. Nature doesn't show us a reason or method for making the complexity.

2. There is way too much variety of intelligent-looking complexities right along side seeming lack of intelligence to blame the universe for only one, but not the other.

Cool

1. Why does there need to be a reason? The whole theory is that evolution is an random process, it has no consciousness or reason for the way it shapes organisms. It is simply down to random mutations. When a star goes supernova, is there a reason it does so (other than the physical processes ocurring in its core)? If not, could those same physical processes not be responsible for mutations in DNA?

2. If you believe there is too much variety of intelligent life, alongside organisms with seeming lack of intelligence, then what are you measuring this data against? It doesn't make sense to compare life on Earth to any other data set, because we haven't ever observed any other form of life.

So when you say "too much variety", what are you comparing this variety to?
When a star goes supernova, is there a reason it does so ..Yes

What Is A Supernova? - YouTube
Video for why a supernova youtube▶ 2:09
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QfNqBKAvkpw

Always a reason ..
Why does someone have blue eyes ..

Why Do You Have Blue Eyes? - YouTube
Video for why do people have blue eyes youtube▶ 2:28
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qfSfNIzN7q8


 It doesn't make sense to compare life on Earth to any other data set, because we haven't ever observed any other form of life.

7 amazing new species discovered in 2016 - YouTube
Video for new species found on earth youtube▶ 1:58
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3G9rRpTYVtk


New species found 2017 - YouTube
Video for new species found on earth youtube▶ 2:53
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5YLZ9jeTyjM..


Butterfly species evolution in action - YouTube
Video for evolution in action▶ 3:03
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zKZ_25q01AE
15 Jun 2011 - Uploaded by National Science Foundation
Scientists have found a population of tropical butterflies that may be on its way to splitting into two distinct ..


Evolution in Action: Ring Species - YouTube
Video for evolution in action▶ 3:17
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PjcFSy1KCTI
17 Sep 2007 - Uploaded by phoenixshade3
This video presents to the layman an example of evolution as an ongoing process: The Ensatina salamanders ...


Evolution in action is simply change. All change, including evolution, is programmed into the univese through cause and effect.

Evolution by random, beneficial mutation does not exist.

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Your quote Badecker below..

Evolution in action is simply change. All change, including evolution, is programmed into the univese through cause and effect.

Evolution by random, beneficial mutation does not exist.

So please tell me which way does the wind blow?.

How hot will it be next year?..
How much rain will fall in 6 months from now?..

If your a spider which way will a predator come from to eat you..
And on any given day what type of animal will come to eat you..


All random unknowns ^..







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We humans evolved fingers a brain and a tongue all to communicate to share ideas ..

So now the human evolution is SCIENCE how will we protect ourselves SCIENCE..
How will we feed ourselves SCIENCE..
How will we live longer SCIENCE .

So the earth give us a brain to think to save ourselves ..

Most important is the EVOLUTION OF SCIENCE..

The need for your specie to live on ..Part man part machine?.
Drugs that make us live longer ..

ALL EVOLUTION..    The need to live on .

And if you think about it life must be strong very very strong..
So must be loads of life around the universe ..


Even this is possible ..
Planet like ours with life blows up travels through space to seed our planet with life..

BUT still it's all down to the weather or to eat or not to be eaten why we change..

And if you think about it we need to eat to survive which means killing something?..

So most evolution changes come because of the need to EAT and the need not to be EATEN..

And i can say what i want because i have a certificate for rescuing a rubber brick..

Well some people say they have a MAJOR Wink..
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May 21, 2017, 10:10:33 AM
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@popcorn

Dont light a fat joint before you login into bct  Cheesy

Hot-head and you are both pro evolution.

Look at the words "physical process" in protokols post and understand it in the context.

@good&evil god

We only know from certain books (he is pretty evil in the Old Testament) and the religious leaderships that god is good, caring etc pp.


God could be really evil and humanity with all its cruelsome stuff could just be a weird comedy show to him.

Anyway i seriously doubt that god is something like a person or rather i have a completely different understanding of a/the god entity in relation to most people who believe in god.

Thats how H.P.Lovecraft understood the concept of God also in his stories of cosmic terror. It cannot be flat out discounted.

I would like to point out the fact, that christians did antropomorphize God through his son, Jesus Christ. In Islam or Judaism, God doesnt have human like form or intentions. Only interest in Humanity as a whole.

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@popcorn

Dont light a fat joint before you login into bct  Cheesy

Hot-head and you are both pro evolution.

Look at the words "physical process" in protokols post and understand it in the context.

@good&evil god

We only know from certain books (he is pretty evil in the Old Testament) and the religious leaderships that god is good, caring etc pp.


God could be really evil and humanity with all its cruelsome stuff could just be a weird comedy show to him.

Anyway i seriously doubt that god is something like a person or rather i have a completely different understanding of a/the god entity in relation to most people who believe in god.

Thats how H.P.Lovecraft understood the concept of God also in his stories of cosmic terror. It cannot be flat out discounted.

I would like to point out the fact, that christians did antropomorphize God through his son, Jesus Christ. In Islam or Judaism, God doesnt have human like form or intentions. Only interest in Humanity as a whole.


Does it not say god is in the image of man..

You see your making stories up..

I have one how we come to be..

A big alien specie was flying around space and seen this big rock I.E the earth ..
It flew down because it been travelling around space and needed a big fat shit..
It done it's shit and many years later loads of creature come out the shit..

So that means every body is made of SHIT.. Cheesy Cheesy.

More believable than a man like being went zap and everything was so.. Grin
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@popcorn

Dont light a fat joint before you login into bct  Cheesy

Hot-head and you are both pro evolution.

Look at the words "physical process" in protokols post and understand it in the context.

@good&evil god

We only know from certain books (he is pretty evil in the Old Testament) and the religious leaderships that god is good, caring etc pp.


God could be really evil and humanity with all its cruelsome stuff could just be a weird comedy show to him.

Anyway i seriously doubt that god is something like a person or rather i have a completely different understanding of a/the god entity in relation to most people who believe in god.

Thats how H.P.Lovecraft understood the concept of God also in his stories of cosmic terror. It cannot be flat out discounted.

I would like to point out the fact, that christians did antropomorphize God through his son, Jesus Christ. In Islam or Judaism, God doesnt have human like form or intentions. Only interest in Humanity as a whole.


Does it not say god is in the image of man..

You see your making stories up..

I have one how we come to be..

A big alien specie was flying around space and seen this big rock I.E the earth ..
It flew down because it been travelling around space and needed a big fat shit..
It done it's shit and many years later loads of creature come out the shit..

So that means every body is made of SHIT.. Cheesy Cheesy.

More believable than a man like being went zap and everything was so.. Grin

If you had anything else besides "opinions" and drugs, then perhaps you wouldnt be so weak  Wink faith and free will are two things that elevate us above animals. You chose not to.

Therefore your idea of God or of belivers is inconsequential. As the old ones used to say: Dogs keep barking, but caravan goes on.
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Did you quote this?..

I could teach you about evolution and biology as much as I want (since it's my major), but to save some time I'll give you one more example to show how flawed your logic is.
Teleostei are the largest group of vertebrates by numbers and most of them fall pray to other animals or themselves, which shows your logic behind an apex predator (crocodile) quite stupid. Same story on the other hand, Placodermi (among other extinct animals) were fierce and huge predators that faced extinction because of many other factors.                 So it's not about whether you eat or are eaten.

So it's not about whether you eat or are eaten.<YOUR QUOTE Wink..

So i said why does a tortoise have a shell?.. So why does a tortoise have a shell ^^^^^

Why as an anteater got a long nose with a long sticky tongue?..

YOUR QUOTE BELOW..
I could teach you about evolution and biology as much as I want (since it's my major), but to save some time I'll give you one more example to show how flawed your logic is.

So why does a tortoise have a shell?..

YOUR QUOTE BELOW..
So it's not about whether you eat or are eaten.  <TORTOISE as a shell WHY

So it's not about whether you eat or are eaten.< ANTEATER as a long nose with a long sticky tongue why..

Some things wont change because they might have many numbers so if a few die it means nothing
to that specie ..

But you will find most changes will happen to eat or not to be eaten or the weather ..
All will make you change..

Even a birds wings change because of the wind..
Some like to ride the wind some like to cut through the wind..

All changes because of your need to live..

So it's not about whether you eat or are eaten.<YOU SAID IT not me Wink..

It's OK i pardon you Grin Cheesy





What I meant to say was it's not only whether you eat or are eaten. If you actually read the rest of the paragraph you would get the context of it and notice that I said "faced extinction because of many other factors", meaning that "eat or get eaten" rule still applies, but it's not the only rule.

The only reason I felt like explaining that to you is because of your poor grammar and lousy sentence construction. "We change because we need to eat or the weather or not to be eaten" this sentence makes you believe that you meant "whether or not to be eaten", so I thought you didn't put climate in the story.

Like I said, if you want to have a decent exchange of words, try constructing your sentences a bit better and not throw one liners at me.

We already went through where I understood you wrong and where you understood me wrong. I took blame for my part, but you're just acting like a little kid who wants more and more, without ever admitting he might be wrong.

You're not wrong when it comes to evolution, but you're just weak minded in general and cannot grasp that you're repeating the same thing over and over again for no reason.
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