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July 29, 2017, 08:19:54 PM
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Why there are still monkeys around if they were part of our evolutionary beginnings ?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cz0gFarCfBE

This is a fallacy. Just because we do not know exactly how evolution works does not mean you can disprove the whole learn. Micro-evolution has already been 100% proven. If bugs for example are all the same species and some are red while some green. The green ones will survive better because they blend in with the grass (where these bugs happen to live) and thus Red bugs get eaten at a far higher % rate. In 10 generations, only green ones are left becasue red sticks out like a sore thumb in grass.

Evolution has never been proven. Everything that can be explained as evolution, can also be explained as something else. Therefore, no proof.

Even if evolution were literally proven to exist, we still would need a time viewer to see if evolution was the way things came about.

Evolution is a big fat hoax, at least as it presently stands.

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Yet you strongly believe in the bible. Did you see god creating the universe?
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July 29, 2017, 08:33:26 PM
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ALSO do you call BUDDHISM a religion ..It's NOT a RELIGION..

To be one with everything cannot be a RELIGION ..

Religion my way or burn forever..
Buddhism be one with everything is not my way or burn in hell..

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The basics of veda is very close to kaballah Smiley

The three big religions based on god & angels ( Judaism christianism Islam)  is based on kaballah the same that budhism is built from veda.

Vatican & England crown is another story. .
If you remember how the Vatican and the Holy Inquisition coped with people who had unusual thinking for that period, Yes today It's no wonder that different proposals and different versions of our life cause huge discussions.

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July 29, 2017, 09:12:29 PM
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ALSO do you call BUDDHISM a religion ..It's NOT a RELIGION..

To be one with everything cannot be a RELIGION ..

Religion my way or burn forever..
Buddhism be one with everything is not my way or burn in hell..

Dalai Lama angrily replies to peaceful nun - YouTube
Video for Buddhism arguing with nun▶ 0:39
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LfEEZvVUvKg
22 Feb 2014 - Uploaded by Dorje Shugden

The basics of veda is very close to kaballah Smiley

The three big religions based on god & angels ( Judaism christianism Islam)  is based on kaballah the same that budhism is built from veda.

Vatican & England crown is another story. .
If you remember how the Vatican and the Holy Inquisition coped with people who had unusual thinking for that period, Yes today It's no wonder that different proposals and different versions of our life cause huge discussions.
But with SCIENCE we know we EVOLVED from this planet ..

No ZAP and everything was so..
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July 29, 2017, 09:30:03 PM
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ALSO do you call BUDDHISM a religion ..It's NOT a RELIGION..

To be one with everything cannot be a RELIGION ..

Religion my way or burn forever..
Buddhism be one with everything is not my way or burn in hell..

Dalai Lama angrily replies to peaceful nun - YouTube
Video for Buddhism arguing with nun▶ 0:39
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LfEEZvVUvKg
22 Feb 2014 - Uploaded by Dorje Shugden

The basics of veda is very close to kaballah Smiley

The three big religions based on god & angels ( Judaism christianism Islam)  is based on kaballah the same that budhism is built from veda.

Vatican & England crown is another story. .
All made up STORIES to control the masses and to donate to the preachers ..

You been getting conned for money and control for many thousands of years..

Now with science we have evolution to prove how we come to be ..

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July 29, 2017, 09:34:13 PM
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Why there are still monkeys around if they were part of our evolutionary beginnings ?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cz0gFarCfBE

This is a fallacy. Just because we do not know exactly how evolution works does not mean you can disprove the whole learn. Micro-evolution has already been 100% proven. If bugs for example are all the same species and some are red while some green. The green ones will survive better because they blend in with the grass (where these bugs happen to live) and thus Red bugs get eaten at a far higher % rate. In 10 generations, only green ones are left becasue red sticks out like a sore thumb in grass.

Evolution has never been proven. Everything that can be explained as evolution, can also be explained as something else. Therefore, no proof.

Even if evolution were literally proven to exist, we still would need a time viewer to see if evolution was the way things came about.

Evolution is a big fat hoax, at least as it presently stands.

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Evolution as more proof than your GODS Grin..

Your proof that evolution exists WHY because just listen to yourself .ZAP and everything was so Cheesy.

I blame your parents for making you believe in fairy tales  Grin..
So i suppose it's not your fault your BAT SHIT CRAZY about your zappy dee zap GODS..
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July 29, 2017, 09:35:19 PM
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Science can be told to be as much con as religion Smiley

Your preaching science and know nothing of it, just because you saw it somewhere .

That's how conning works.

But im not conned by your madness Smiley

Not more than by preacher of any sort.

Science doesnt prove much evolution  no more than you prove anything.

You dont even know what proof is lol

Typing in caps being drunk insulting people is not really a proof of anything outside of your own madness and authority complex .

I blame your parents for yelling too much at you to show their authority.
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July 29, 2017, 11:07:52 PM
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Why there are still monkeys around if they were part of our evolutionary beginnings ?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cz0gFarCfBE

This is a fallacy. Just because we do not know exactly how evolution works does not mean you can disprove the whole learn. Micro-evolution has already been 100% proven. If bugs for example are all the same species and some are red while some green. The green ones will survive better because they blend in with the grass (where these bugs happen to live) and thus Red bugs get eaten at a far higher % rate. In 10 generations, only green ones are left becasue red sticks out like a sore thumb in grass.

Evolution has never been proven. Everything that can be explained as evolution, can also be explained as something else. Therefore, no proof.

Even if evolution were literally proven to exist, we still would need a time viewer to see if evolution was the way things came about.

Evolution is a big fat hoax, at least as it presently stands.

Cool
Evolution as more proof than your GODS Grin..

Your proof that evolution exists WHY because just listen to yourself .ZAP and everything was so Cheesy.

I blame your parents for making you believe in fairy tales  Grin..
So i suppose it's not your fault your BAT SHIT CRAZY about your zappy dee zap GODS..

Again, all the evidences that suggest evolution, can suggest other things, as well. Because of this, there is no proof for evolution. Then when we add all the reasons why evolution is impossible, we find that evolution is a big, fat hoax.

Cool
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July 30, 2017, 12:05:32 AM
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Why there are still monkeys around if they were part of our evolutionary beginnings ?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cz0gFarCfBE

This is a fallacy. Just because we do not know exactly how evolution works does not mean you can disprove the whole learn. Micro-evolution has already been 100% proven. If bugs for example are all the same species and some are red while some green. The green ones will survive better because they blend in with the grass (where these bugs happen to live) and thus Red bugs get eaten at a far higher % rate. In 10 generations, only green ones are left becasue red sticks out like a sore thumb in grass.

Evolution has never been proven. Everything that can be explained as evolution, can also be explained as something else. Therefore, no proof.

Even if evolution were literally proven to exist, we still would need a time viewer to see if evolution was the way things came about.

Evolution is a big fat hoax, at least as it presently stands.

Cool
Evolution as more proof than your GODS Grin..

Your proof that evolution exists WHY because just listen to yourself .ZAP and everything was so Cheesy.

I blame your parents for making you believe in fairy tales  Grin..
So i suppose it's not your fault your BAT SHIT CRAZY about your zappy dee zap GODS..

Again, all the evidences that suggest evolution, can suggest other things, as well. Because of this, there is no proof for evolution. Then when we add all the reasons why evolution is impossible, we find that evolution is a big, fat hoax.

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What does that even mean
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July 30, 2017, 05:05:35 AM
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Why there are still monkeys around if they were part of our evolutionary beginnings ?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cz0gFarCfBE

This is a fallacy. Just because we do not know exactly how evolution works does not mean you can disprove the whole learn. Micro-evolution has already been 100% proven. If bugs for example are all the same species and some are red while some green. The green ones will survive better because they blend in with the grass (where these bugs happen to live) and thus Red bugs get eaten at a far higher % rate. In 10 generations, only green ones are left becasue red sticks out like a sore thumb in grass.

Evolution has never been proven. Everything that can be explained as evolution, can also be explained as something else. Therefore, no proof.

Even if evolution were literally proven to exist, we still would need a time viewer to see if evolution was the way things came about.

Evolution is a big fat hoax, at least as it presently stands.

Cool

Yet you strongly believe in the bible. Did you see god creating the universe?

Science is about observing, faith is about believing.
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July 30, 2017, 05:16:41 AM
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Si tacuisses, philosophus mansisses.

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July 30, 2017, 07:32:35 AM
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Why there are still monkeys around if they were part of our evolutionary beginnings ?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cz0gFarCfBE

This is a fallacy. Just because we do not know exactly how evolution works does not mean you can disprove the whole learn. Micro-evolution has already been 100% proven. If bugs for example are all the same species and some are red while some green. The green ones will survive better because they blend in with the grass (where these bugs happen to live) and thus Red bugs get eaten at a far higher % rate. In 10 generations, only green ones are left becasue red sticks out like a sore thumb in grass.

Evolution has never been proven. Everything that can be explained as evolution, can also be explained as something else. Therefore, no proof.

Even if evolution were literally proven to exist, we still would need a time viewer to see if evolution was the way things came about.

Evolution is a big fat hoax, at least as it presently stands.

Cool

Yet you strongly believe in the bible. Did you see god creating the universe?

My personal beliefs don't have anything to do with the fact that evolution is a hoax. Look in the Scientific proof that God exists? thread to see that God exists. Look at the previous posts in this thread to see that evolution is a hoax.

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July 30, 2017, 08:07:52 AM
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Is evolution a hoax?

I think it really comes down to perception. What do we call evolution?

In my mind there's no question that evolution does exist, even us humans are evolving every day. + evolution by natural selection as described here:



This is a fallacy. Just because we do not know exactly how evolution works does not mean you can disprove the whole learn. Micro-evolution has already been 100% proven. If bugs for example are all the same species and some are red while some green. The green ones will survive better because they blend in with the grass (where these bugs happen to live) and thus Red bugs get eaten at a far higher % rate. In 10 generations, only green ones are left becasue red sticks out like a sore thumb in grass.

But I'm not convinced, not even after all the brainwashing and conditioning,  that dinosaur's existed. I think they may be fictional and made up, to keep humans more easily grounded. To make them feel more lost and unconnected on this life journey. To make us feel like we don't really belong here, and that us being alive is merely a weird coincidence.

  I have read that Dino's started off as two professors grudge match, a competition of who could find more proof of dinosaurs. Weirdest thing is, that before these professors started their race, no one had ever heard about dinosaurs, and these two men, happened to find dinosaurs bones exclusively on their expedition trips.

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July 30, 2017, 09:02:09 AM
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Is evolution a hoax?

I think it really comes down to perception. What do we call evolution?

In my mind there's no question that evolution does exist, even us humans are evolving every day. + evolution by natural selection as described here:



This is a fallacy. Just because we do not know exactly how evolution works does not mean you can disprove the whole learn. Micro-evolution has already been 100% proven. If bugs for example are all the same species and some are red while some green. The green ones will survive better because they blend in with the grass (where these bugs happen to live) and thus Red bugs get eaten at a far higher % rate. In 10 generations, only green ones are left becasue red sticks out like a sore thumb in grass.

But I'm not convinced, not even after all the brainwashing and conditioning,  that dinosaur's existed. I think they may be fictional and made up, to keep humans more easily grounded. To make them feel more lost and unconnected on this life journey. To make us feel like we don't really belong here, and that us being alive is merely a weird coincidence.

  I have read that Dino's started off as two professors grudge match, a competition of who could find more proof of dinosaurs. Weirdest thing is, that before these professors started their race, no one had ever heard about dinosaurs, and these two men, happened to find dinosaurs bones exclusively on their expedition trips.


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July 30, 2017, 11:02:58 AM
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Is evolution a hoax?

I think it really comes down to perception. What do we call evolution?

In my mind there's no question that evolution does exist, even us humans are evolving every day. + evolution by natural selection as described here:



This is a fallacy. Just because we do not know exactly how evolution works does not mean you can disprove the whole learn. Micro-evolution has already been 100% proven. If bugs for example are all the same species and some are red while some green. The green ones will survive better because they blend in with the grass (where these bugs happen to live) and thus Red bugs get eaten at a far higher % rate. In 10 generations, only green ones are left becasue red sticks out like a sore thumb in grass.

But I'm not convinced, not even after all the brainwashing and conditioning,  that dinosaur's existed. I think they may be fictional and made up, to keep humans more easily grounded. To make them feel more lost and unconnected on this life journey. To make us feel like we don't really belong here, and that us being alive is merely a weird coincidence.

  I have read that Dino's started off as two professors grudge match, a competition of who could find more proof of dinosaurs. Weirdest thing is, that before these professors started their race, no one had ever heard about dinosaurs, and these two men, happened to find dinosaurs bones exclusively on their expedition trips.


You lack critical thinking

You lack self expression.
Care to elaborated?

If you are referring to the dinos, then I'm just sceptical of the "scientists" ability to come up with whole dinosaur sceletons based on a a few single bones.

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July 30, 2017, 11:53:42 AM
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Is evolution a hoax?

I think it really comes down to perception. What do we call evolution?

In my mind there's no question that evolution does exist, even us humans are evolving every day. + evolution by natural selection as described here:



This is a fallacy. Just because we do not know exactly how evolution works does not mean you can disprove the whole learn. Micro-evolution has already been 100% proven. If bugs for example are all the same species and some are red while some green. The green ones will survive better because they blend in with the grass (where these bugs happen to live) and thus Red bugs get eaten at a far higher % rate. In 10 generations, only green ones are left becasue red sticks out like a sore thumb in grass.

But I'm not convinced, not even after all the brainwashing and conditioning,  that dinosaur's existed. I think they may be fictional and made up, to keep humans more easily grounded. To make them feel more lost and unconnected on this life journey. To make us feel like we don't really belong here, and that us being alive is merely a weird coincidence.

  I have read that Dino's started off as two professors grudge match, a competition of who could find more proof of dinosaurs. Weirdest thing is, that before these professors started their race, no one had ever heard about dinosaurs, and these two men, happened to find dinosaurs bones exclusively on their expedition trips.


You lack critical thinking

You lack self expression.
Care to elaborated?

If you are referring to the dinos, then I'm just sceptical of the "scientists" ability to come up with whole dinosaur sceletons based on a a few single bones.


A few bones? You think we only have a few dinosaur fossils? Even creationists agree that dinosaurs existed. You lack critical thinking because you read an article somewhere and you believed it.
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July 30, 2017, 01:00:57 PM
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You lack critical thinking

You lack self expression.
Care to elaborated?

If you are referring to the dinos, then I'm just sceptical of the "scientists" ability to come up with whole dinosaur sceletons based on a a few single bones.


A few bones? You think we only have a few dinosaur fossils? Even creationists agree that dinosaurs existed. You lack critical thinking because you read an article somewhere and you believed it.

Just like you do, full of stereotype and pre made idea about everything. You just read article on science today instead of other sites. I still have to see you coming with a though of your own that is not plain stereotype about religion.
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July 31, 2017, 03:57:27 AM
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You lack critical thinking

You lack self expression.
Care to elaborated?

If you are referring to the dinos, then I'm just sceptical of the "scientists" ability to come up with whole dinosaur sceletons based on a a few single bones.


A few bones? You think we only have a few dinosaur fossils? Even creationists agree that dinosaurs existed. You lack critical thinking because you read an article somewhere and you believed it.

Just like you do, full of stereotype and pre made idea about everything. You just read article on science today instead of other sites. I still have to see you coming with a though of your own that is not plain stereotype about religion.

Haha, yes, thank you! Cheesy

Here's an article I found after 5 sec of googling, have not yet gone through it all, but here's some quotes.

http://loveforlife.com.au/content/10/09/14/dinosaur-deception-dinosaurs-never-existed-dinosaur-fossils-are-hoax-dinosaurs-scie

I know there's some biblical story in there, but I don't consider myself a religion person.

"So, dinosaurs were described in 1842 before the discoveries in 1854 that were required to give a clear picture of what dinosaurs looked like! Were discoveries made or constructed to fit the descriptions?"

"Dinosaur skeletons were found for the first time in abundance in the Garden Park area of Colorado and at Como Bluff, Wyoming, in the late 1870s. These specimens initiated the First Great Dinosaur Rush in North America, driven largely by the efforts of a Philadelphia paleontologist, Edward Drinker Cope (on the left), and Othniel Marsh (on the right), a paleontologist from Yale University."

"These two men started as friends but became bitter rivals in a feud of legendary proportions. The stories surrounding these two include tales of armed field parties, spies, and intercepting shipments of fossils intended for the other."

Wayne Grady explains in his book The Dinosaur Project: "From Cope, Sternberg had learned cutthroat bone hunting. Cope and his arch rival, Othniel Charles Marsh, professor of paleontology at Yale University, had been engaged in what have been called 'the bone wars' throughout the 1870s and 1880s. It was a fierce scientific rivalry that entailed some of the most underhanded shenanigans in the history of science, but it also amassed stupendous collections of fossils."

" Why were there no discoveries by native Americans in all the years previous when they roamed the American continents? There is no belief of dinosaurs in the native American religion or tradition.

For that matter, why were there no discoveries prior to the nineteenth century in any part of the world? According to the World Book Encyclopedia, "before the 1800's, no one ever knew that dinosaurs ever existed". "During the late 1800's and early 1900's, large deposits of dinosaur remains were discovered in western North America, Europe, Asia, and Africa." "Dinosaur deposits also lie in Belgium, Mongolia, Tanzania, West Germany, and many other parts of the world."

"Why has man suddenly made all these discoveries? Belgium, Mongolia, Tanzania, West Germany (and the Americas as well) were inhabited and very well explored for thousands of years and there were no discoveries until the nineteenth century. Why?"

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"Discoveries and excavations seem not to be made by disinterested people, such as farmers, ranchers, hikers, outdoor recreationists, building construction industry basement excavators, pipeline trench diggers, and mining industry personnel but rather by people with vested interests, such as paleontologists, scientists, university professors, and museum organization personnel who were intentionally looking for dinosaur bones or who have studied dinosaurs previously. The finds are often made during special dinosaur-bone hunting trips and expeditions by these people to far-away regions already inhabited and explored. This seems highly implausible. More believable is the case of the discovery of the first original Dead Sea scrolls in 1947, which were unintentionally discovered by a child, and which were all published by 1955. In some cases of a discovery of dinosaur bones by a disinterested person, it was suggested to them by some "professional" in the field to look or dig in a certain area"

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July 31, 2017, 04:06:37 AM
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Im not sure about the whole dinosaur things, but I have saw they could have messed a bit the thing when building skeleton, sometime they just find a bunch of bones and teeth and call it a dinosaurs to have something cool to show in museum. It could just be mix of sharks or other things. Then the science get fossilized on it to keep the tourist coming to see them. To much economic interest with it.

They do the same with egyptian mummies and many other things, it's known museum are potentially full of fakes.
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July 31, 2017, 10:26:19 AM
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You lack critical thinking

You lack self expression.
Care to elaborated?

If you are referring to the dinos, then I'm just sceptical of the "scientists" ability to come up with whole dinosaur sceletons based on a a few single bones.


A few bones? You think we only have a few dinosaur fossils? Even creationists agree that dinosaurs existed. You lack critical thinking because you read an article somewhere and you believed it.

Just like you do, full of stereotype and pre made idea about everything. You just read article on science today instead of other sites. I still have to see you coming with a though of your own that is not plain stereotype about religion.

Haha, yes, thank you! Cheesy

Here's an article I found after 5 sec of googling, have not yet gone through it all, but here's some quotes.

http://loveforlife.com.au/content/10/09/14/dinosaur-deception-dinosaurs-never-existed-dinosaur-fossils-are-hoax-dinosaurs-scie

I know there's some biblical story in there, but I don't consider myself a religion person.

"So, dinosaurs were described in 1842 before the discoveries in 1854 that were required to give a clear picture of what dinosaurs looked like! Were discoveries made or constructed to fit the descriptions?"

He is suggesting that Hayden falsified his discoveries in order to support Owen's thesis. However, Owen's thesis was not lacking in evidence. Owen's description of the class Dinosauria was based on fossils found in the British Isles. The first dinosaur remains found in North America were made twelve years later, but they were not he first dinosaur remains to be described in scientific literature.

"Dinosaur skeletons were found for the first time in abundance in the Garden Park area of Colorado and at Como Bluff, Wyoming, in the late 1870s. These specimens initiated the First Great Dinosaur Rush in North America, driven largely by the efforts of a Philadelphia paleontologist, Edward Drinker Cope (on the left), and Othniel Marsh (on the right), a paleontologist from Yale University."

He is simply wrong here. People have excavated fossils (both dinosaur and non-dinosaur) since the beginning of recorded history. They have collected them and displayed them in temples and private gardens and used them for medicine. Before the 1800's, no one knew that dinosaurs existed because the word "dinosaur" hadn't been coined yet.

"These two men started as friends but became bitter rivals in a feud of legendary proportions. The stories surrounding these two include tales of armed field parties, spies, and intercepting shipments of fossils intended for the other."

(OK?)

Wayne Grady explains in his book The Dinosaur Project: "From Cope, Sternberg had learned cutthroat bone hunting. Cope and his arch rival, Othniel Charles Marsh, professor of paleontology at Yale University, had been engaged in what have been called 'the bone wars' throughout the 1870s and 1880s. It was a fierce scientific rivalry that entailed some of the most underhanded shenanigans in the history of science, but it also amassed stupendous collections of fossils."

" Why were there no discoveries by native Americans in all the years previous when they roamed the American continents? There is no belief of dinosaurs in the native American religion or tradition.

People who are looking for fossils and know how to recognize them are more likely to find fossils than are people who are not. Wow. Mind you, this immediately follows the author finding it suspicious that the professionals might have bones shipped to them by non-professionals. Again, just because he finds it unlikely or implausible doesn't mean anyone else should. He's arguing from ignorance and that's his problem, not ours.

For that matter, why were there no discoveries prior to the nineteenth century in any part of the world? According to the World Book Encyclopedia, "before the 1800's, no one ever knew that dinosaurs ever existed". "During the late 1800's and early 1900's, large deposits of dinosaur remains were discovered in western North America, Europe, Asia, and Africa." "Dinosaur deposits also lie in Belgium, Mongolia, Tanzania, West Germany, and many other parts of the world."

"Why has man suddenly made all these discoveries? Belgium, Mongolia, Tanzania, West Germany (and the Americas as well) were inhabited and very well explored for thousands of years and there were no discoveries until the nineteenth century. Why?"

Our ancestors interpreted large fossil bones according to their local world views. Uncovered bones were evidence of giants in the past, of monsters defeated by legendary heroes, of dragons, or of the wars among titans that accompanied the creation of the present world. The first paleontologists in China found fossils by earning the trust of local apothecaries and exploring the sources of their "dragon bones." Greek paleontologists have had the same success by exploring locations mentioned in the travels of Hercules and the wars among their ancestors' gods.



/MOAR

"Discoveries and excavations seem not to be made by disinterested people, such as farmers, ranchers, hikers, outdoor recreationists, building construction industry basement excavators, pipeline trench diggers, and mining industry personnel but rather by people with vested interests, such as paleontologists, scientists, university professors, and museum organization personnel who were intentionally looking for dinosaur bones or who have studied dinosaurs previously. The finds are often made during special dinosaur-bone hunting trips and expeditions by these people to far-away regions already inhabited and explored. This seems highly implausible. More believable is the case of the discovery of the first original Dead Sea scrolls in 1947, which were unintentionally discovered by a child, and which were all published by 1955. In some cases of a discovery of dinosaur bones by a disinterested person, it was suggested to them by some "professional" in the field to look or dig in a certain area"


Conspiracy theorist and former paleontology student Michael Forsell (ROFL as I said you lack critical thinking, you might as well say the oceans are a hoax)
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Haha, yes, thank you! Cheesy

Here's an article I found after 5 sec of googling, have not yet gone through it all, but here's some quotes.

http://loveforlife.com.au/content/10/09/14/dinosaur-deception-dinosaurs-never-existed-dinosaur-fossils-are-hoax-dinosaurs-scie

I know there's some biblical story in there, but I don't consider myself a religion person.

"So, dinosaurs were described in 1842 before the discoveries in 1854 that were required to give a clear picture of what dinosaurs looked like! Were discoveries made or constructed to fit the descriptions?"

He is suggesting that Hayden falsified his discoveries in order to support Owen's thesis. However, Owen's thesis was not lacking in evidence. Owen's description of the class Dinosauria was based on fossils found in the British Isles. The first dinosaur remains found in North America were made twelve years later, but they were not he first dinosaur remains to be described in scientific literature.

"Dinosaur skeletons were found for the first time in abundance in the Garden Park area of Colorado and at Como Bluff, Wyoming, in the late 1870s. These specimens initiated the First Great Dinosaur Rush in North America, driven largely by the efforts of a Philadelphia paleontologist, Edward Drinker Cope (on the left), and Othniel Marsh (on the right), a paleontologist from Yale University."

He is simply wrong here. People have excavated fossils (both dinosaur and non-dinosaur) since the beginning of recorded history. They have collected them and displayed them in temples and private gardens and used them for medicine. Before the 1800's, no one knew that dinosaurs existed because the word "dinosaur" hadn't been coined yet.

"These two men started as friends but became bitter rivals in a feud of legendary proportions. The stories surrounding these two include tales of armed field parties, spies, and intercepting shipments of fossils intended for the other."

(OK?)

Wayne Grady explains in his book The Dinosaur Project: "From Cope, Sternberg had learned cutthroat bone hunting. Cope and his arch rival, Othniel Charles Marsh, professor of paleontology at Yale University, had been engaged in what have been called 'the bone wars' throughout the 1870s and 1880s. It was a fierce scientific rivalry that entailed some of the most underhanded shenanigans in the history of science, but it also amassed stupendous collections of fossils."

" Why were there no discoveries by native Americans in all the years previous when they roamed the American continents? There is no belief of dinosaurs in the native American religion or tradition.

People who are looking for fossils and know how to recognize them are more likely to find fossils than are people who are not. Wow. Mind you, this immediately follows the author finding it suspicious that the professionals might have bones shipped to them by non-professionals. Again, just because he finds it unlikely or implausible doesn't mean anyone else should. He's arguing from ignorance and that's his problem, not ours.

For that matter, why were there no discoveries prior to the nineteenth century in any part of the world? According to the World Book Encyclopedia, "before the 1800's, no one ever knew that dinosaurs ever existed". "During the late 1800's and early 1900's, large deposits of dinosaur remains were discovered in western North America, Europe, Asia, and Africa." "Dinosaur deposits also lie in Belgium, Mongolia, Tanzania, West Germany, and many other parts of the world."

"Why has man suddenly made all these discoveries? Belgium, Mongolia, Tanzania, West Germany (and the Americas as well) were inhabited and very well explored for thousands of years and there were no discoveries until the nineteenth century. Why?"

Our ancestors interpreted large fossil bones according to their local world views. Uncovered bones were evidence of giants in the past, of monsters defeated by legendary heroes, of dragons, or of the wars among titans that accompanied the creation of the present world. The first paleontologists in China found fossils by earning the trust of local apothecaries and exploring the sources of their "dragon bones." Greek paleontologists have had the same success by exploring locations mentioned in the travels of Hercules and the wars among their ancestors' gods.



/MOAR

"Discoveries and excavations seem not to be made by disinterested people, such as farmers, ranchers, hikers, outdoor recreationists, building construction industry basement excavators, pipeline trench diggers, and mining industry personnel but rather by people with vested interests, such as paleontologists, scientists, university professors, and museum organization personnel who were intentionally looking for dinosaur bones or who have studied dinosaurs previously. The finds are often made during special dinosaur-bone hunting trips and expeditions by these people to far-away regions already inhabited and explored. This seems highly implausible. More believable is the case of the discovery of the first original Dead Sea scrolls in 1947, which were unintentionally discovered by a child, and which were all published by 1955. In some cases of a discovery of dinosaur bones by a disinterested person, it was suggested to them by some "professional" in the field to look or dig in a certain area"


Conspiracy theorist and former paleontology student Michael Forsell (ROFL as I said you lack critical thinking, you might as well say the oceans are a hoax)

Nice to get some self expression afterall.

I would like to note, that I'm no saying that dinosaur's didnt exist, It's just that I dont believe they did. - After the "conspiracy theorist's" info has reached my conciousness, and it kinda makes sense to me, and I decided to roll with it- because it doesnt really change my life.

the same goes with many different things.

Say the flat earth discussion, after that I have become aware of that, I cant be 100% in on one side, because I think there is a possibility, that we actually dont live on a globe- since it doesnt really matter, we might as well live on a hollow planet.



And that is how we are different, you choose to pick one side, because "scientists" have said so, you are even willing to defend the scientists and the science you don't really know anything about. The truth of the matter is that very few people actually know, how the world, science and economy  is really run.

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