Evolution is a hoax

[BADecker]

I'm just going to say something similar as in the other thread. Since neither of us can prove that everything has a cause or that there is something without a cause, this is what we are left with. Evolution theory. It doesn't matter that you don't want to accept it, it is the best we have. There are also a ton of applications for it. Antibiotic resistance is the ability of a microorganism to withstand the effects of an antibiotic. Unless you claim that god made these microorganisms to suddenly develop resistance to antibiotics to kill us. Evolution is what did it, not god.

Except that I showed the proof of it, that cause and effect is universal in everything. I'll say it again.

Everything has motion. Even if absolute zero were found somewhere, everything has motion in its subatomic particles or wave (electromagnetic) movement. Can there even be a logical theory for something without motion?

Newton's 3rd Law essentially says C&E with a little more added.

The words "action" and reaction" in the 3rd Law are happening throughout the universe everywhere because there is nowhere in the universe where something is without motion.

Cause and effect is universal. This means that the supposed mutations of evolution have really been caused, rather than being actions without a cause. This changes the whole aspect of what evolution theory suggests evolution is. Evolution was started by whoever/whatever started cause and effect.

All cause and effect operates according to the laws of physics in the universe. Even the pandemonium in a hydrogen nuclear explosion doesn't break the laws of physics. This means that everything is programmed to act the way it does, according to the laws of physics, through universal cause and effect... was programmed right at the Beginning - which entropy shows us there had to be... a beginning.

That which the evolutionists call evolution is something that can't exist, according to the laws of physics, the actions of which are carried out through cause and effect.

Certainly there is change in the universe. Obviously there is a lot of change that we don't understand... we don't know the cause and effect processes that made that change. But we don't need to think about evolution to understand how limited our C&E thinking is. All we need do is watch the way a leaf sways in the breeze, and realize that we have no way of tracking any of the molecules that make it move like it does, all according to cause and effect.

Evolution is just a game that evolutionists and some anthropologists use to make money. When you consider the swaying leaf, the real kind of evolution (whatever we might call it) isn't even important, and won't be until we can track the natural flow of individual atoms and molecules and heat waves much better.

Evolution is a big fat hoax.

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[Vod]

Except that I showed the proof of it, that cause and effect is universal in everything. I'll say it again.

So what caused your god to create himself?

[BADecker]

Except that I showed the proof of it, that cause and effect is universal in everything. I'll say it again.

So what caused your god to create himself?

Probably the same thing that causes you to believe in God... His love for you.

[Vod]

Except that I showed the proof of it, that cause and effect is universal in everything. I'll say it again.

So what caused your god to create himself?

Probably the same thing that causes you to believe in God... His love for you.

So evolution is a big hoax if I believe in your god?  Works for me. 

[BADecker]

Except that I showed the proof of it, that cause and effect is universal in everything. I'll say it again.

So what caused your god to create himself?

Probably the same thing that causes you to believe in God... His love for you.

So evolution is a big hoax if I believe in your god?  Works for me. 

No, the hoax that evolution is, doesn't depend on you. It depends mostly on God, but also on what is written here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1917510.msg26961799#msg26961799.

[Vod]

No, the hoax that evolution is, doesn't depend on you. It depends mostly on God

But your god is a hoax, so your argument doesn't hold any water...

[BADecker]

No, the hoax that evolution is, doesn't depend on you. It depends mostly on God

But your god is a hoax, so your argument doesn't hold any water...

Actually, since you don't have the strength to do anything, God takes your level of faith, and works that you post that He is a hoax, just for you, because He loves you.

[Vod]

God takes your level of faith, and works that you post that He is a hoax, just for you, because He loves you.

But your god is a hoax, so it can't love anyone.  

[Daytus]

Why there are still monkeys around if they were part of our evolutionary beginnings ?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cz0gFarCfBE

Yes. I never believe that theory. Honestly I don't want to believe that monkey is my ancestors lol..

[Vod]

Why there are still monkeys around if they were part of our evolutionary beginnings ?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cz0gFarCfBE

Yes. I never believe that theory. Honestly I don't want to believe that monkey is my ancestors lol..

Bacteria are your ancestors too...   

All life on earth shares similar DNA, proving evolution.

[Astargath]

I'm just going to say something similar as in the other thread. Since neither of us can prove that everything has a cause or that there is something without a cause, this is what we are left with. Evolution theory. It doesn't matter that you don't want to accept it, it is the best we have. There are also a ton of applications for it. Antibiotic resistance is the ability of a microorganism to withstand the effects of an antibiotic. Unless you claim that god made these microorganisms to suddenly develop resistance to antibiotics to kill us. Evolution is what did it, not god.

Except that I showed the proof of it, that cause and effect is universal in everything. I'll say it again.

Everything has motion. Even if absolute zero were found somewhere, everything has motion in its subatomic particles or wave (electromagnetic) movement. Can there even be a logical theory for something without motion?

Newton's 3rd Law essentially says C&E with a little more added.

The words "action" and reaction" in the 3rd Law are happening throughout the universe everywhere because there is nowhere in the universe where something is without motion.

Cause and effect is universal. This means that the supposed mutations of evolution have really been caused, rather than being actions without a cause. This changes the whole aspect of what evolution theory suggests evolution is. Evolution was started by whoever/whatever started cause and effect.

All cause and effect operates according to the laws of physics in the universe. Even the pandemonium in a hydrogen nuclear explosion doesn't break the laws of physics. This means that everything is programmed to act the way it does, according to the laws of physics, through universal cause and effect... was programmed right at the Beginning - which entropy shows us there had to be... a beginning.

That which the evolutionists call evolution is something that can't exist, according to the laws of physics, the actions of which are carried out through cause and effect.

Certainly there is change in the universe. Obviously there is a lot of change that we don't understand... we don't know the cause and effect processes that made that change. But we don't need to think about evolution to understand how limited our C&E thinking is. All we need do is watch the way a leaf sways in the breeze, and realize that we have no way of tracking any of the molecules that make it move like it does, all according to cause and effect.

Evolution is just a game that evolutionists and some anthropologists use to make money. When you consider the swaying leaf, the real kind of evolution (whatever we might call it) isn't even important, and won't be until we can track the natural flow of individual atoms and molecules and heat waves much better.

Evolution is a big fat hoax.

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Except that I showed the proof of it, that cause and effect is universal in everything. I'll say it again.'' Where have you shown this???
''Everything has motion. Even if absolute zero were found somewhere, everything has motion in its subatomic particles or wave (electromagnetic) movement. Can there even be a logical theory for something without motion?'' But  what you have to prove is that all the motion has a cause and you can't, why are you repeating the same stuff again? You can't prove that everything has a cause, period.

[salamyman]

BD - every piece of technology that you got in your house was at a moment theory, scientists did not know what to do with it or how, and in time it perfected - most of it in the last 100 years.
Your "theory" has had 6000 years (apparently) and still same thing with the same holes and contradictions.
If nothing else, the fact that evolution evolves (with real quantifiable results) is proof in itself.

[BADecker]

God takes your level of faith, and works that you post that He is a hoax, just for you, because He loves you.

But your god is a hoax, so it can't love anyone.  

No. The biggest hoax is that God doesn't exist.

Cause and effect, as shown to be proven true here https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1917510.msg26961799#msg26961799, destroys our evolution theory. The destruction of evolution theory is explained in the link, as well. This means that if evolution could exist, we don't have any real theory to suggest how. And since we essentially don't have any proof anyway, evolution doesn't exist.

Then it (C&E) goes on to remain the greatest portion of the things that prove the existence of God. While C&E may not prove God all by itself, it almost does. If you go to the things I have shown in the Scientific proof that God exists? thread - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=737322.0 - and add entropy and complexity, you will see that God has been proven to exist. The addition of other scientific fact/laws strengthens the proof for God.

If science hadn't intentionally ignored cause and effect, evolution might not be a hoax. But since C&E is the foundation behind and under all scientific research, C&E hasn't been denied. It simply has not been explained out in the open. Its workings have been hidden regarding popularity, so people don't see that things like evolution don't exist. This is what makes evolution a hoax.

Many scientists don't take part of the evolution hoax knowingly. It's just that their field of endeavor lies in areas other than deeply examining cause and effect. This makes them unwitting victims of the evolution hoax, just like all the laymen out there.

Evolution is a hoax.

[BADecker]

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Except that I showed the proof of it, that cause and effect is universal in everything. I'll say it again.'' Where have you shown this???
''Everything has motion. Even if absolute zero were found somewhere, everything has motion in its subatomic particles or wave (electromagnetic) movement. Can there even be a logical theory for something without motion?'' But  what you have to prove is that all the motion has a cause and you can't, why are you repeating the same stuff again? You can't prove that everything has a cause, period.

Again, I don't have to prove that all motion has a cause. Newton did it in his 3rd Law. You might have to think about it to understand it, but a good, simple explanation is listed here https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1917510.msg26961799#msg26961799. You even quoted it, above. Didn't you read it?

[BADecker]

BD - every piece of technology that you got in your house was at a moment theory, scientists did not know what to do with it or how, and in time it perfected - most of it in the last 100 years.
Your "theory" has had 6000 years (apparently) and still same thing with the same holes and contradictions.
If nothing else, the fact that evolution evolves (with real quantifiable results) is proof in itself.

There are NO holes or contradictions in the Bible. Things that seem holes or contradictions exist simply because the people who suggest the holes and contradictions, fail to apply parts of the Bible that explain how the seeming holes and contradictions are NOT holes or contradictions. Often they do it out of ignorance. But other times they do it because they want falsehood rather than the truth.

[Grechkatx]

I would not be in such a hurry with the conclusions, there are still many peole with uneducated funky monkey inside, it's just this is not so obvious.

[Astargath]

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Except that I showed the proof of it, that cause and effect is universal in everything. I'll say it again.'' Where have you shown this???
''Everything has motion. Even if absolute zero were found somewhere, everything has motion in its subatomic particles or wave (electromagnetic) movement. Can there even be a logical theory for something without motion?'' But  what you have to prove is that all the motion has a cause and you can't, why are you repeating the same stuff again? You can't prove that everything has a cause, period.

Again, I don't have to prove that all motion has a cause. Newton did it in his 3rd Law. You might have to think about it to understand it, but a good, simple explanation is listed here https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1917510.msg26961799#msg26961799. You even quoted it, above. Didn't you read it?

I'm starting to believe that you are trolling me now. Newton did not prove or said that everything has a cause, motion =/= cause. Where does it say that everything has a cause, quote it, give me the evidence or just shut the fuck up already.

[Vod]

Cause and effect, as shown to be proven true here https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1917510.msg26961799#msg26961799, destroys our evolution theory.

And Cause and effect, debunked here , destroys the god idea.

[BADecker]

Cause and effect, as shown to be proven true here https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1917510.msg26961799#msg26961799, destroys our evolution theory.

And Cause and effect, debunked here , destroys the god idea.

You debunk yourself. How? Because even science says that cause and effect is in everything. Where and how? Big Bang Theory shows that everything was caused by the BB, even if it was an indirect cause.

What else you got?

[Parodium]

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Except that I showed the proof of it, that cause and effect is universal in everything. I'll say it again.'' Where have you shown this???
''Everything has motion. Even if absolute zero were found somewhere, everything has motion in its subatomic particles or wave (electromagnetic) movement. Can there even be a logical theory for something without motion?'' But  what you have to prove is that all the motion has a cause and you can't, why are you repeating the same stuff again? You can't prove that everything has a cause, period.

Again, I don't have to prove that all motion has a cause. Newton did it in his 3rd Law. You might have to think about it to understand it, but a good, simple explanation is listed here https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1917510.msg26961799#msg26961799. You even quoted it, above. Didn't you read it?

I'm starting to believe that you are trolling me now. Newton did not prove or said that everything has a cause, motion =/= cause. Where does it say that everything has a cause, quote it, give me the evidence or just shut the fuck up already.

I can't believe you're still debating with that guy. I actually blocked him as his stupidity was annoying me.