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March 12, 2018, 08:10:53 PM
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I will tell you why, because god is either an idiot or he doesn't exist.

You won the argument pages ago Astargath.  BD is simply too dense to understand it.

Even the leader of his cult says the Big Bang happened!   Cool

Evolution deniers are going extinct, badecker and his other buddy in this thread are probably the last few ones. It's just really mind boggling to me how someone tries to defend slavery or rape just to keep believing in what they believe.
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March 12, 2018, 08:22:07 PM
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Evolution deniers are going extinct, badecker and his other buddy in this thread are probably the last few ones. It's just really mind boggling to me how someone tries to defend slavery or rape just to keep believing in what they believe.

Yeah, Badecker is one of the most dense people I have ever met.  I tried to help him for over a year, but none of my methods were able to get through his brainwashing.  That guy probably goes to his church a couple times each day, and I doubt he has any relationships outside the church.

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This ''His ways are mysterious and better than what we want.'' is actually one of the worst arguments from religious people. Why would you trust god then, if you don't know whether his actions are actually good or bad then why trust him? Even if he really existed, why would I follow him?

To evaluate it you have to have the gift of discernement. Most people do not want it because as Solomon had wrote - understanding and wisdom brings suffering to the wise person. People prefer to be dumb, but it is required for christian not to be dumb.

You don't have to be too smart to realize that slavery or rape is wrong yet the bible is full of it, in fact it endorses it and even has rules for it, great god you have.

The Bible is against people who kidnap, buy or sell other people for use as slaves. The Bible is totally in favor of people voluntarily selling themselves into temporary "slavery" when they are poor, so that they can get out of their poverty.

The Bible is totally against rape.

You totally misinterpret what is being done where there are certain judgments in the Bible that are different than the way that you would judge. Bible judgments are better. This can be seen by the fact that you would badmouth the Bible with your lies, in intentional ignorance, or maliciously.

In the same way that you talk falsely about the bible, so you talk falsely about evolution. There isn't any evolution in the sense of evolution theory. Evolution is a hoax.

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Look at your pathetic excuses... God couldn't find a better way to get people out of poverty than slavery? Why not a normal job where your master cannot beat you almost to death with no consequences.

''When a man strikes his male or female slave with a rod so hard that the slave dies under his hand, he shall be punished.  If, however, the slave survives for a day or two, he is not to be punished, since the slave is his own property. (Exodus 21:20-21 NAB)''

There is no rational defense for all the disgusting verses in the bible yet you still think god not only exists but that he is actually good.

You are having such a difficult time understanding the mindset of those ancient people.

No defense is necessary for something that people hold as part of their living conditions when it is reality. But when you continue to reject God, there is no defense for you.

With the Bible words that you are showing, above, God is bringing the position of slavery out into the beginnings of freedom for the slave. Prior to that wording from God, there was no punishment for the slave-owner even if the slave died at his hands.

But you would rather maintain slavery for the minds of people by continuing to promote something as stupid as evolution. So, you are the slave maker here.

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''God is bringing the position of slavery out into the beginnings of freedom for the slave. Prior to that wording from God, there was no punishment for the slave-owner even if the slave died at his hands.'' WOOW god is so merciful with his laws, instead of simply abolishing and punishing any kind of slavery he only punishes owners if they kill their slaves, benevolent god...

Well, that's what God almost did... abolish and punish slavery. Almost? Yes, almost.

You see, God is too righteous and loving to involve Himself with punishing any crime, or even abolishing the freedom of people to do right or wrong. So, what Did God do that He ALMOST abolished and punished? He turned over the abolishment and punishment to the people, themselves.

How did God turn over the abolishment and punishment for any wrongdoing to people? By giving to people perfection which would give them a life without death... life filled with great joy without any punishment or need for abolishment. By doing this, God automatically built into nature the quality of abolishment and punishment for any imperfection that a person does. And you well know that all people do things that aren't perfect.

You well know many of the kinds of punishment that people get for their imperfections. They get pain and sorrow and eventually death for their imperfection. So, people create their own punishment and eventual abolishment, and the abolishment of their evil right along with their own abolishment in death.

But God didn't want people to abolish themselves. So, he gave them good laws that fit how the people lived... fit their mindset... so that they had some kind of a chance to reduce their self-inflicted punishment, and so that they might not abolish themselves quite as fast as if God had not given them these laws.

But, you might say? Why didn't God simply force them to not be able to be imperfect? Because then you would be complaining that God had made them slaves of perfection. This way God doesn't have to dirty His hands with abolishment and punishment, or slavery. He can maintain the good that He is giving people. And if people want abolishment and punishment, they can, of their own free will, maintain imperfection within themselves. God doesn't have to do it at all!

Where does that leave you? Perhaps in moderate peace for a time. But your personal abolishment and punishment is hanging over your head, ready and waiting to befall you. All you need to do is continue with the second greatest imperfection of all as you have been doing... rejecting the fact that God exists... next to which slavery is a glimmering candle-light in a cave of blackest darkness. If you won't change, your self-ordained and self-inflicted abolishment and punishment will catch up with you, and you won't like it in the least.

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But god killed millions with the flood and plagues and other methods, he took away people freedom many many times, why not do it for a good reason (to stop slavery) ?

I will tell you why, because god is either an idiot or he doesn't exist.

You act with the slavery issue the same way you act with the evolution issue. You don't care what the truth is. You would rather continue to profess your stupidity. This makes you either a fool, or a troll or both.

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March 13, 2018, 07:57:36 AM
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I will tell you why, because god is either an idiot or he doesn't exist.

You won the argument pages ago Astargath.  BD is simply too dense to understand it.

Even the leader of his cult says the Big Bang happened!   Cool

Evolution deniers are going extinct, badecker and his other buddy in this thread are probably the last few ones. It's just really mind boggling to me how someone tries to defend slavery or rape just to keep believing in what they believe.

We clearly do not defend being a slaver (to hunt for people to enslave them) and neither being a rapist. Both were to be punished with death in the Bible if one is cought on doing so.

You are clearly having an agenda behind you. You were provided the evidences about the rape that it is the satanic translation matter. And yet you provide the things that is proven to be the gate to troll the christianity. Just like the fake evolution evidences you provide is the troll gate to harass the christianity.

I am not an evolution denier. There is nothing to be denied. Even if BB is true you have a question - what have caused it and a whole lot of issues along with many improbabilities and few impossibilities. That is still a lot less than you already know. And if you already know then you presuppose. If you presuppose - you believe. If you believe in it - it is your religion. If your religion is improbable - you are a fanatic.

If we are at labelling people you are the evolutionist self-assurers. Circle of adoration. People crave to be adored I obviously crave less about it than you. Im not afraid of your shaming as I have my king Jesus Christ behind me.

You want to shame people by calling someone losers. You are not even close to being a predominate majority. I would say that 66% people including atheists believe we came from monkeys. With all this support from the media and a 100% control of the schools. That is so weak. Even with this generation that is being out of touch with reality you cannot make the numbers more than 66-75%, and close to 50% in the religious community.

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I will tell you why, because god is either an idiot or he doesn't exist.

You know? If you do not get the reserve of a doubt of not understanding something, then I use the same standards for you. You get a faaar away from the truth that way. That way I could judge you being a troll. I hope you are not. That would mean I had only waste my time.

If you are a troll why should I bother? If God does not exist - why would you bother?

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March 13, 2018, 09:33:22 AM
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In my opinion,
In geology, we have found 2 or 3 times the number of fossils because there are living species. We really have not found the missing link. But...
If there are all kinds of fossils out there, it's like a link lost by the similarities and small differences, we still will not know that they are part of evolution, or if they are all different species created by God.
You have to find a living trans species to know that fossils have evolutionary evidence.
Avolution shoots itself as it shows a huge stretch of time between recognizable changes.
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March 13, 2018, 10:00:18 AM
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Most Christians don't have a problem with evolution.
Only creationists do because they take the Bible too literally. It's a metaphoric book, church fathers, saints and mystics new this, but it takes some mental sophistication and flexibility too understand metaphors and accept that the Bible was written by fallible men who had to deal with knowledge available in their age. Acknowledging this is the only way Christianity can survive in the West. It was because of people like creationists that Nietzsche said that God is dead. He was killed by mental incompetence of his followers. Luckily, there are many religious streams, so everyone can choose according to his understanding.
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March 13, 2018, 10:57:20 AM
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no, i dont belive. imagine how everything is structured in our nature, everything is so logical. haox brings haox, but take a walk in a nearby forest, pureness and calness is everywhere, thats the result of evolution
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March 13, 2018, 11:56:47 AM
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Most Christians don't have a problem with evolution.
Only creationists do because they take the Bible too literally. It's a metaphoric book, church fathers, saints and mystics new this, but it takes some mental sophistication and flexibility too understand metaphors and accept that the Bible was written by fallible men who had to deal with knowledge available in their age. Acknowledging this is the only way Christianity can survive in the West. It was because of people like creationists that Nietzsche said that God is dead. He was killed by mental incompetence of his followers. Luckily, there are many religious streams, so everyone can choose according to his understanding.

No... It is because of the people like you Nietzsche have said that the God is dead. Do you even know his writtings? He was implying noone takes the Bible seriously within the christianity, so he guessed that God must be a dead letter. He was talking about platonists that he have utterly and totally hate, the catholic church fathers loved and embraced platonism that have absolutely nothing with the Bible. It is the people you view as christians that are not was what Nietzsche hated. I am fairly sure we would agree with Nietzsche on a lot more issues than you, even if he was self proclaimed antichristian, and I am self proclaimed Christian
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March 13, 2018, 12:02:51 PM
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no, i dont belive. imagine how everything is structured in our nature, everything is so logical. haox brings haox, but take a walk in a nearby forest, pureness and calness is everywhere, thats the result of evolution

I dont know what forest were you in but the order is not its main feature. The problem with the forest is that we the human race like to get away from the problems so going to a different enviroment relieve us from our anxieties. I personally had the same feeling going to a silent abandoned building as going to a forest both gives tranquility because you have drasticly change your habitat. But believe me. No man want to live neither in the forest nor abandoned destroyed upopulated construct.

I personally I think you too as well feel the same relief going to like going away from the forest.

It is just a anxiety relief based on a fight/flight response based on the hormones and its role. You feel safe having the space to run away to.

That is why God have ordained for a people to feel secure to have a sanctuary cities.

Pagans like you had their groves, but both are absolutely the same thing.
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March 13, 2018, 01:37:45 PM
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Why do people talk about evolution when they clearly have no idea what evolution is in the first place? Why not use google instead of saying the stupidest shit (Why are there still monkeys) Why don't you inform yourselves before jumping to idiotic conclusions?
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March 13, 2018, 02:09:47 PM
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Why do people talk about evolution when they clearly have no idea what evolution is in the first place? Why not use google instead of saying the stupidest shit (Why are there still monkeys) Why don't you inform yourselves before jumping to idiotic conclusions?

Why wouldnt you google creationism genius? Not every creationist is stupid ok?

Btw why not google both and make your own opinion not based on one source?

So much hipocrisy in the world.... just wow.
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March 13, 2018, 02:23:07 PM
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Why there are still monkeys around if they were part of our evolutionary beginnings ?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cz0gFarCfBE

In my view and understanding, monkeys are not the place where people start, if they are, then it's even billions of years ago. In the recent past, I think people have experienced many tribulations and genocide almost completely, which can be considered a great tribulation, while some people are alive but without means, So they start again. There is a lot of evidence for this.

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March 13, 2018, 05:37:39 PM
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Not every creationist is stupid ok?

Show me someone who believes a sky fairy created everything and I will show you a stupid fool.  :/

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March 13, 2018, 06:18:02 PM
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I will tell you why, because god is either an idiot or he doesn't exist.

You won the argument pages ago Astargath.  BD is simply too dense to understand it.

Even the leader of his cult says the Big Bang happened!   Cool

Evolution deniers are going extinct, badecker and his other buddy in this thread are probably the last few ones. It's just really mind boggling to me how someone tries to defend slavery or rape just to keep believing in what they believe.

We clearly do not defend being a slaver (to hunt for people to enslave them) and neither being a rapist. Both were to be punished with death in the Bible if one is cought on doing so.

You are clearly having an agenda behind you. You were provided the evidences about the rape that it is the satanic translation matter. And yet you provide the things that is proven to be the gate to troll the christianity. Just like the fake evolution evidences you provide is the troll gate to harass the christianity.

I am not an evolution denier. There is nothing to be denied. Even if BB is true you have a question - what have caused it and a whole lot of issues along with many improbabilities and few impossibilities. That is still a lot less than you already know. And if you already know then you presuppose. If you presuppose - you believe. If you believe in it - it is your religion. If your religion is improbable - you are a fanatic.

If we are at labelling people you are the evolutionist self-assurers. Circle of adoration. People crave to be adored I obviously crave less about it than you. Im not afraid of your shaming as I have my king Jesus Christ behind me.

You want to shame people by calling someone losers. You are not even close to being a predominate majority. I would say that 66% people including atheists believe we came from monkeys. With all this support from the media and a 100% control of the schools. That is so weak. Even with this generation that is being out of touch with reality you cannot make the numbers more than 66-75%, and close to 50% in the religious community.

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I will tell you why, because god is either an idiot or he doesn't exist.

You know? If you do not get the reserve of a doubt of not understanding something, then I use the same standards for you. You get a faaar away from the truth that way. That way I could judge you being a troll. I hope you are not. That would mean I had only waste my time.

If you are a troll why should I bother? If God does not exist - why would you bother?

Astargath no longer exist. It is just a matter of time. You do not know it but soon all sinners will be as they would never exist. Pooof.... like a dust you are on the wind.....

''Both were to be punished with death in the Bible if one is cought on doing so.''

Lies. When a man strikes his male or female slave with a rod so hard that the slave dies under his hand, he shall be punished.  If, however, the slave survives for a day or two, he is not to be punished, since the slave is his own property. (Exodus 21:20-21 NAB)

If you kill the slave you are indeed punished however you free to have slaves and to beat them almost to death.

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March 13, 2018, 07:25:16 PM
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Not every creationist is stupid ok?

Show me someone who believes a sky fairy created everything and I will show you a stupid fool.  :/

I have shown you do not know what a season is... and yet you call me a fool.... sighh..... You atheists are beyond reasoning.

I like you either way.

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''Both were to be punished with death in the Bible if one is cought on doing so.''

Lies. When a man strikes his male or female slave with a rod so hard that the slave dies under his hand, he shall be punished.  If, however, the slave survives for a day or two, he is not to be punished, since the slave is his own property. (Exodus 21:20-21 NAB)

If you kill the slave you are indeed punished however you free to have slaves and to beat them almost to death.

http://www.evilbible.com/evil-bible-home-page/rape-in-the-bible/

You were tutored many times......... And you still do not get it you just come again and again to the same arguments that had been refuted.

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March 13, 2018, 09:44:56 PM
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Why do people talk about evolution when they clearly have no idea what evolution is in the first place? Why not use google instead of saying the stupidest shit (Why are there still monkeys) Why don't you inform yourselves before jumping to idiotic conclusions?

Why wouldnt you google creationism genius? Not every creationist is stupid ok?

Btw why not google both and make your own opinion not based on one source?

So much hipocrisy in the world.... just wow.

Dude you are just wasting time looking for an answer on stupid questions like this and also talking with people who not even interested in this question Grin
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Not every creationist is stupid ok?

Show me someone who believes a sky fairy created everything and I will show you a stupid fool.  :/

I have shown you do not know what a season is... and yet you call me a fool.... sighh..... You atheists are beyond reasoning.

I like you either way.

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''Both were to be punished with death in the Bible if one is cought on doing so.''

Lies. When a man strikes his male or female slave with a rod so hard that the slave dies under his hand, he shall be punished.  If, however, the slave survives for a day or two, he is not to be punished, since the slave is his own property. (Exodus 21:20-21 NAB)

If you kill the slave you are indeed punished however you free to have slaves and to beat them almost to death.

http://www.evilbible.com/evil-bible-home-page/rape-in-the-bible/

You were tutored many times......... And you still do not get it you just come again and again to the same arguments that had been refuted.

Argumentum ad ignorantum - apealing to the ignorance of your audience is all you can do.

It's not an argument, it's a quote from the bible, there isn't much to refute, the bible is full of things like that yet you still believe it and even defend it and because of that you have to deny evolution.
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Not every creationist is stupid ok?

Show me someone who believes a sky fairy created everything and I will show you a stupid fool.  :/

I have shown you do not know what a season is... and yet you call me a fool.... sighh..... You atheists are beyond reasoning.

I like you either way.

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''Both were to be punished with death in the Bible if one is cought on doing so.''

Lies. When a man strikes his male or female slave with a rod so hard that the slave dies under his hand, he shall be punished.  If, however, the slave survives for a day or two, he is not to be punished, since the slave is his own property. (Exodus 21:20-21 NAB)

If you kill the slave you are indeed punished however you free to have slaves and to beat them almost to death.

http://www.evilbible.com/evil-bible-home-page/rape-in-the-bible/

You were tutored many times......... And you still do not get it you just come again and again to the same arguments that had been refuted.

Argumentum ad ignorantum - apealing to the ignorance of your audience is all you can do.

It's not an argument, it's a quote from the bible, there isn't much to refute, the bible is full of things like that yet you still believe it and even defend it and because of that you have to deny evolution.

There are some things in our law - that you could find even more shocking. Sometimes in some states you can kill a trespasser in your land. Does that mean that you can kill? No. It is a law that makes people scared to go into others property. That law was to scare people away from becoming a slave ok? Because there are a lot of people back then as it is now that they would want others to think for them. Many people would not mind the life of a slave... wait they do not... because they are virtually identical as the slave. They do everything they are told to.

We already talked about it... you keep on comming with the same things.

You need to know some intelectual rigour in order to understand a complicated concept. You need to know the other passages, and you need to know the context, you need to know that the law is the law of the angels, that the law is not the eternal - using words of the Paul. You must know that the law was the emergency. You need to know a lot more things before you assume that God is behind the slavery.

He temporarly allowed it because there was no other way around it not causing many unnecesary deaths.

Equity is the goal of every law. You need to know that the just does not need the law.

There had to be the change with the level of buerocracy we have to make slavery obsolete. You need to understand many historical and political concepts before you say - hey.... 3500 years ago it was possible not to have slavery. It was not possible ok?

God was doing everything in the Bible to stop slavery because it is ujust, but in that time, it was to early to have an option of a volountary contract and how to keep it in law. Serfs in the middle ages were defacto slaves, as many debters are defacto slaves. There is a lot of legal fiction for a people to misrepresent the reality.

I know many people are enchanting reality with words calling things what its not and can't be. If I would call a woman, to be a man, because she wants so, it will not make her one.

If you think many people that are living with the people they do not want to and working for the people they do not want to - because they have nowhere to go - are not slaves, then you are deluded.

The tenth commandment implies a free person should have his house and his method of transport and of work, and a wife to be sustainable with his physiological needs and desires like a desire for a shelter, sexual desires and food. And not to envy another - because having that is normal and everyone should have such. Everyone should have an option to be free. But sometimes because of many sins people were and are not free ok? And that is why there were passages about people that are not free because poverty can lead to some kind of slavery or even worse things.

Many people nowadays are deluded that there are no slaves. There are plenty. They are just not called that. And you say that you despise people from as far as 3500 years ago... When that was clearly a temporal law for their period.....

About the rape - There is no mention in the King James Version. And you have no idea how important for the society was lack of argue about women. There were a lot of wars over a women in the history ok? Harsh law is needed for unjust and unruly people.

And the affairs need to be dealt swiftly as well as rape - because it might have led to a war. You make complicated matters of political and social life of 3500 years ago simple. It was far from simple ok?
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it's only religious people who say evolution is a hoax  Cheesy..

Answer me this then  Wink..

Why do religious peoples only follow parts of their religious beliefs   YOU pick parts of your bibles to follow but ignore all the rest  Roll Eyes..

So who is the GOD you or GOD ? Just think about it GOD told you to do things but you went no god i will follow the parts that suit me not what suit you god BUT what suits me the HUMAN ..

So who really is the GOD you or god ?..He has told you what to do but you went no i will do what
I WANT so your gods are not that powerful after all because your doing a small bit of what he commands
while sinning over all the other rules god told you to do..

Like MUSLIMS the women cover their hair BUT show their PUSSIES  Roll Eyes..
ALLAH said cover your head but show your PUSSIES? Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy..CRAZY RULES Roll Eyes..

Now religious peoples are all full of poo..
You make your own rules up not what god told you to do but what you decided to do so that makes you the god ..

women bishops not allowed but you decided that's ok we will do it anyways ..
gays getting married not allowed so you decide ok we wont allow it ..

HYPOCRITES ..

RELIGIOUS PEOPLE ARE CABBAGES..Good at reading and writing but nut jobs..

And the MUSLIMS they are the worst ever in the 21st century remind me of 16th century Catholics ..

The world EVOLVES everyday ..So do religious cabages gods

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March 14, 2018, 04:43:36 PM
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evolution is well structured and logically built precise working system. why? study the animal life and you'll get why 
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